I've been running Lazslo's Froyo rom for awhile, but saw this one in Development, and thought I'd give it a whirl.
At first, was fast, good memory management, and a pretty fine rom.
However, after about a week, it started lagging badly. At first, a power-off reboot seemed to fix it. But then (after 1-2 days of trying this), it wouldn't power off. It would "reboot", skipping the "G1" splash screen, and then go into a 3-4 auto reboot cycle.
I finally gave up on it, and went back to FBL, which never exhibited this behavior, nor has it since I reflashed to it (over a week). But I'm still intrigued by the MT3G Froyo rom.
Maybe someone has an idea why it was acting like that?
What SPL/Radio do you use? Maybe reflashing it will solve it. Like any ROM, you have to reflash the ROM after a few days to make it work properly.
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What SPL/Radio do you use? Maybe reflashing it will solve it. Like any ROM, you have to reflash the ROM after a few days to make it work properly.
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Excuse me, but that's totally nonsense ... and repeating it again and again doesn't make it more correct.
Used whatever radio/spl it said.
As far as "reflashing", that is just plain SILLY.
I flash FBL, and don't reflash. Same as all other roms. No reflashing needed.
Either it works, or it doesn't, and the "odd" behavior my phone had with the Froyo AOSP was just in that rom, no others ever.
So, as I said, I went back to FBL. Nice, fast, small, good memory
Reflashed to AOSP 2.2 OTA. I downloaded a "fresh" copy, just in case.
I like the memory management, and the easy to flash themes, etc.
The "black text on white background" for SMS not being changeable is about the only irritating part of the ROM
I'll wait and see if the "odd" behavior emerges again.
So far, so good. (12 hours)
I'll post back later, and let everyone know
I mean, to do that after your rom does some weird things. It works with me, so it's not silly, just my opinion. AND DON'T HATE FOR A MISTAKE!
Actually, I've switched to a newer rom now,
CronMod-Dream, a 2.3.7 Gingerbread rom that, to me, combines the speed and stability of FBL with the usability features of 2.2 OTA.
Actually, the new rom has FBL and 2.2 OTA beat in speed and stability (at least, for me it does. Your mileage may vary)
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so my rom is stock; infact, i just got the phone. maybe three cabs. advanced config, mobile matt's theme.. .net 3.5? battery life seems like it's going to be a problem. i haven't even gotten it to say it was fully charged.. always still charging.
is it worth going to the "test" rom that we recently received? will that even improve batter life? i had a wizard for years before, and i must have flipped roms over 40 times.. and it just.. it never quite worked right the same after i started dicking with it. and i'm reading in the thread on that rom that some are going back over service issues.
opnions? any general battery life conservation methods?
Captain noob
wdkingery said:
so my rom is stock; infact, i just got the phone. maybe three cabs. advanced config, mobile matt's theme.. .net 3.5? battery life seems like it's going to be a problem. i haven't even gotten it to say it was fully charged.. always still charging.
is it worth going to the "test" rom that we recently received? will that even improve batter life? i had a wizard for years before, and i must have flipped roms over 40 times.. and it just.. it never quite worked right the same after i started dicking with it. and i'm reading in the thread on that rom that some are going back over service issues.
opnions? any general battery life conservation methods?
Captain noob
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Have you left the Fuze to charge for 5+ hours yet? If so and you can't get it to say it's fully charged, you might want to investigate it further before you start flashing, to save yourself the trouble of flashing back the stock SPL and ROM in case you want to send it back for an exchange.
You're right, the battery life sucks. In Advanced Config, under "Power Management," I have all that stuff enabled and it helps a little. I also set my screen brightness down to the lowest I can tolerate instead of using the sensor.
The radio that's in the test ROM is incredible! I first flashed that with the stock ROM and it did wonders for my battery life. As I'm sure you've read by now, GPS sucks too on stock. The radio also helps a lot with GPS, I noticed a huge difference after flashing. I highly recommend NATF's ROMs, his version 4.5 is based off the test ROM and it is incredibly fast and stable. GPS works even better when the radio is coupled with the test ROM, or any ROM based on it. Battery life is so much better now.
Links to the radio thread and NATF's ROMs are in my sig.
hey
thanks so much for your rapid response. you can say i load that radio with my stock rom? i might be interested in doing that, however; my GPS seems to work fine. no difficulties like other people say. i hate to switch to another radio and screw that up.. but you claims wonders about battery life.
i have been closely eyeing a NATF rom. i've been watchin him since he "proudly got a branded fuze" even tho i didn't have this phone till last week.
i did charge it over night last night, and it did go to 100%.. and within two hours, about 8 text messages and changing my text message sound, i'm down to 86% so anything's worth a try.
i'm just so reluctant to flash to a new rom.. i hate all the bloatware, and the different things.. but it seems once you go down that road, it's soft resets every time something goes wrong, at least once a day. and emails tryin to figure out why my MMS only works when the moon is aligned.. i'm doing this same reflash work to a 2005 mustang GT brain and same kinda things.. now the idle isn't stable, if you drive the car, cut it off, then fire it back up it's touchy to drive.. seems like every time i **** with someone, yeah it flies on that one aspect, but it ends up being like a baby, always wiping the ass.
bottom line: what do i need to only flash that radio? Hard spl?
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thanks so much for your rapid response. you can say i load that radio with my stock rom? i might be interested in doing that, however; my GPS seems to work fine. no difficulties like other people say. i hate to switch to another radio and screw that up.. but you claims wonders about battery life.
i have been closely eyeing a NATF rom. i've been watchin him since he "proudly got a branded fuze" even tho i didn't have this phone till last week.
i did charge it over night last night, and it did go to 100%.. and within two hours, about 8 text messages and changing my text message sound, i'm down to 86% so anything's worth a try.
i'm just so reluctant to flash to a new rom.. i hate all the bloatware, and the different things.. but it seems once you go down that road, it's soft resets every time something goes wrong, at least once a day. and emails tryin to figure out why my MMS only works when the moon is aligned.. i'm doing this same reflash work to a 2005 mustang GT brain and same kinda things.. now the idle isn't stable, if you drive the car, cut it off, then fire it back up it's touchy to drive.. seems like every time i **** with someone, yeah it flies on that one aspect, but it ends up being like a baby, always wiping the ass.
bottom line: what do i need to only flash that radio? Hard spl?
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No prob man. First thing is we gotta make sure you have a GSM phone, so hopefully you're with AT&T and have a Fuze. If you're with verison or sprint, flashing is a no go. I really don't know anything about the CDMA versions of the Raph, but the forum for those are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=465
So if you do have a GSM, awesome. If you're worried about bloat, you don't have to anymore with NATF's ROMs. His standard ROM is loaded with great utilities and tools, no bloat and has about 320MB free "Storage Space" in memory. That's huge leaps over the stock with the bloat, and stock without the bloat it still beats it by 100MB! NATF's ROMs are definitely faster than the stock and are very stable. But if you're still reluctant to flash, I don't blame you, I barely got rid of my stock ROM a month ago; I've had the Fuze since it's launch date in Nov.
Yep, HardSPL is the first step. mskip has a great guide with all the required links to get you going, follow steps 1, 2, & 5 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Lemme know how it works out for you.
New radio rom helps, as does switching to a ROM that doesn't load as much junk in the background. Also, do a soft reset after you run activesync on the phone - there's a lot of stuff that loads during synching that doesn't properly unload afterwards, meaning increased cpu and memory usage and thus battery.
In my opinion, i think you should get Da_G's 6.5 roms. Yes, they're beta but they run amazingly smooth, with very few glitches. and my battery life is AMAZING with them. I can go a whole day and half with a full charge as opposed to less than a day with all the other roms. and that's with constant texting and phone calls and data connection. not to mention his rom is really fast!
natf 4.5 att
i've decided around midnight i shall attempt not to brick my phone whilst flashin the natf rom. is there a link anyone could give me to a description of the rom?
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i've decided around midnight i shall attempt not to brick my phone whilst flashin the natf rom. is there a link anyone could give me to a description of the rom?
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Can't go wrong with his thread, it's in my sig.
Some things to keep in mind:
Don't forget to back up your PIM, I use PPCPimBackup, you can find it at d0ugie's site: http://blownfuze.org/ If you do not have threaded SMS, change that in Advanced Config after you flash, then restore your PIM. Your contacts and calendar should come back right away after the restore, but the messages take a while to rebuild, so don't touch it for at least 15 mins after the reboot.
Sprite Backup from the stock rom isn't included in NATF's, you can find it here at Da_G's rom thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446652&highlight=sprite+backup
Just to inform you guys if there are people out there like me...
I have reverted back to the Standard WM6.0 HK WWE Rom, as I have tried every single ROM availble on this forums, but nothing seemed to work 100% for me, there was always a draw back in every single ROM I have tried, except this one that I been running for the last month.
Yes it is old and outdated, but surprizingly, everything works 100%, no problems, no lock ups, no keyboard lags, battery is lasting longer etc.
So it looks a bit dull and boring, but maybe the more stuff added to the roms the more things can go wrong.
I'll be honest I appreciated everyone's efforts in creating the best ROMS available on this forum, but like I said no rom was working 100% for ME, so I'm not ungreatfull
Hopefully the ROMS made on this forums works 100% for you guys, but just thought I'd share this for the people like me. So dont flame me please
This is my little 2c contribution to the forums.
I have found mine as well: a standard WM6.1 WWE from HTC (the latest shipped rom). And as an addition: Eclair v2.0.1 . These both do almost everything I want them to .
However, I have been swithching a lot to JJblasters work as well: that works beautifull .
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Just to inform you guys if there are people out there like me...
I have reverted back to the Standard WM6.0 HK WWE Rom, as I have tried every single ROM availble on this forums, but nothing seemed to work 100% for me, there was always a draw back in every single ROM I have tried, except this one that I been running for the last month.
Yes it is old and outdated, but surprizingly, everything works 100%, no problems, no lock ups, no keyboard lags, battery is lasting longer etc.
So it looks a bit dull and boring, but maybe the more stuff added to the roms the more things can go wrong.
I'll be honest I appreciated everyone's efforts in creating the best ROMS available on this forum, but like I said no rom was working 100% for ME, so I'm not ungreatfull
Hopefully the ROMS made on this forums works 100% for you guys, but just thought I'd share this for the people like me. So dont flame me please
This is my little 2c contribution to the forums.
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and which rom is that cos i wanna try it too....
Never
I liked Josh's Kaiser Rom "21929 Hybrid" I was using it since it was released with NO problems. Wonderfully stable Rom, which is the only reason I waited so long to jump on the 6.5 bandwagon (as of yesterday). Glad you found something you are satisfied with, but I doubt I will ever settle for any one rom permanently.
Going back to 6.0 is not " finding your rom ". it is going back to your old Volkswagen because the new Ferrarris and Lamborghinis are too complicated and hard to drive.
The Rom I have is here : http://www.asia.htc.com/download/RU..._radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R2_Ship.exe
If everyone is interested, give it a shot
And by the way Denco, I'm hectically in IT, I just need something that works 100% and 100% all the time
Not in the mood to battle with problematic roms.
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Going back to 6.0 is not " finding your rom ". it is going back to your old Volkswagen because the new Ferrarris and Lamborghinis are too complicated and hard to drive.
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ROFL
I totally agree with this, as soon as a new build hits I flash.
Some ROMS may be buggy, which is why you inform the chefs who in turn do their best to correct the bug.
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The Rom I have is here : http://www.asia.htc.com/download/RU..._radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R2_Ship.exe
If everyone is interested, give it a shot
And by the way Denco, I'm hectically in IT, I just need something that works 100% and 100% all the time
Not in the mood to battle with problematic roms.
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If you need something that works 100% & 100% of the time, why even bother with flashing non-stock ROMs? I'm in IT as well, and I'm running Eclair 2.01 on top of jjblasters 28014. The issues that crop up don't prevent me from doing my job, and help me be better educated as to what's coming down the road.
Either way, to each their own. Enjoy your boring, bland, feature-less stock ROM and I'll enjoy the cutting edge.
My fav rom running over 1 year, Never need to reboot except if I remove battery or install new cabs.
RUU_Kaiser_HyperDragon_III_PRO_WWE_20080917
joenie said:
I have found mine as well: a standard WM6.1 WWE from HTC (the latest shipped rom). And as an addition: Eclair v2.0.1 . These both do almost everything I want them to .
However, I have been swithching a lot to JJblasters work as well: that works beautifull .
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hey i haven't jumped on the whole eclair thing yet, but i was wondering, whats the combination with WWE all about? does eclair run on two things or hows it work?! do you just mean that you took the stock and put eclair on it? let me know pleasee. and hows the new battery life running for you
sorry there was a duplicate..
Moving to Android
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hey i haven't jumped on the whole eclair thing yet, but i was wondering, whats the combination with WWE all about? does eclair run on two things or hows it work?! do you just mean that you took the stock and put eclair on t? let me know pleasee. and hows the new battery life running for you
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I've been running stock ROMs forever, or at least since AT&T US released the Tilt 6.1 updates. Work fairly well.
The Android builds work anywhere from not at all to very well. I'm working on Eclair now. Seems very stable. Someone is working on battery life now, seems to be less than 8 hours now, so that might be a problem. Several things don't work, but nothing I can't live without.
If you are starting from the beginning, I suggest getting a couple of Class 6 MicroSD 4GB cards, heading to http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/install, installing 1.5 or 1.6 on the card, and playing with it for awhile. See if you like it. There are ZIP files to download that you unzip and copy to the SD card.
You boot your normal ROM, get to WinMobile, then start up Android from the SD. So it doesn't do anything to your standard phone. It just all of a sudden is running only Android. If you want WinMobile, you just shutdown, and restart to WinMobile. No pain.
After that, you start replacing various files to get to the version of Android that you want. As I said, sometimes you get very unstable, but when that happens, just return to the previous stable version.
It's like getting a free new phone! Or at least one for the prices of some SD cards.
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I've been running stock ROMs forever, or at least since AT&T US released the Tilt 6.1 updates. Work fairly well.
The Android builds work anywhere from not at all to very well. I'm working on Eclair now. Seems very stable. Someone is working on battery life now, seems to be less than 8 hours now, so that might be a problem. Several things don't work, but nothing I can't live without.
If you are starting from the beginning, I suggest getting a couple of Class 6 MicroSD 4GB cards, heading to http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/install, installing 1.5 or 1.6 on the card, and playing with it for awhile. See if you like it. There are ZIP files to download that you unzip and copy to the SD card.
You boot your normal ROM, get to WinMobile, then start up Android from the SD. So it doesn't do anything to your standard phone. It just all of a sudden is running only Android. If you want WinMobile, you just shutdown, and restart to WinMobile. No pain.
After that, you start replacing various files to get to the version of Android that you want. As I said, sometimes you get very unstable, but when that happens, just return to the previous stable version.
It's like getting a free new phone! Or at least one for the prices of some SD cards.
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damn 4gb?! i have a 2gb..lol aha. i'm still running abbots v11, do you know what might be more stable with it? any suggestions? how long did the install take? i was looking on the eclair 2.0.1 thread, and i think theres a bootloader for it now?
which ROM
well.. I ve tried many ROMS.. but frankly felt shifu's version 4 was good. I dint face any problems with that ROM.
all other were buggy I agree.. and the original shipped ROM has to be good.
Ha, I have the same thoughts. I`ve tried a lot of roms, some of them was quite good but not in 100%. That was boring and if You use seriously your phone with a lot of important files, contacts, calendar appointmets it is hard to keep averything right when changing frequently roms. this is quite nice feature to change os to something You like, but not for serius usage. Somebody compare standard rom to Volkswagen, rebuidled to ferrari. So what that You have ferrari if itis not capable to run ?
pawelpaciorek : That is exactly what I'm talking about, I have tried most 6.5 roms on this forum and to keep on changing my roms and back up my contacts, reinstalling every single app (skype,gps,garmin etc etc etc) was just irretating me coz the ROM wasnt functioning propperly.
Luckily for now I set my phone up on our work's MS exchange server, so restoring contacts etc has become a bit easier.
Coz i once tried like 5 ROMS a day, and just got too irretated, to do all the above.
I believe its because the 6.5 roms are still in Beta, and no matter what, the Chefs cant really turn a Beta product into a full working one.
So its not the Chefs fault, its the fact that the Base of the 6.5 roms aren't completed.
I'm actually looking forward in changing my rom to Android as soon as it becomes available as a stand alone OS (somehow I doubt this will happen for Kaiser) but yeah
I have found my ROM as well.
It's not stock, it's not 6.5. In fact, I hate 6.5 ROMs running on Kaiser.
Everytime I flash a different ROM I go back to my safe ROM in a matter of days. Even recent ROMs made by the same chef are not as fast and stable.
I've a got a 6.1 ROM, memory hacked, fast, and stable.
I'm not telling what ROM it is in this topic though.
I have hated the 6.5.x roms for Kaiser because they have all been buggy, slow, or some cross of the two. But I will say this:
TPC "Stock Like" 23071 is FASTER than the GENUINE At&t 6.1 ROM!!!! And stability is almost flawless... no crashes of any kind.
Only problem I have with stock roms, which is what causes me the headache of flashing to try new roms is the feature set AT&T uses SUCKS and the OS tends to be bogged down with bloatware EVEN when soft resetting just before the customization screen.
The HTC home plugin is ugly, and makes landscape practically unviewable. The settings are horrible in 6.1, and the functionality is mutilated. 6.5 has fantastic functionality at the price of very few stable or even speedy builds.
As I stated, the one I am using is TPC Stock Like 23071 (NOT 28002 which has the sleep death that is to date not curable in the 28002 builds).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558285
BTW, the newer radio (1.71 eMonster) is definitely a necessity!
Moved to Kaiser General as not ROM Development...
Found my ROM
Amen to that
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What country are you in? I tried that one and found the GPS fix was nowhere near as fast here in the UK. Maybe it's quick in the countries it's intended for though.... I never tried running my (older) favourite 1.27.12.32 Radio on it and that may have made a difference (if it was fully compatible). I don't rember, does it have a network connection wizard including countries such as the UK because one of the WWE WM 6.0 ROMs I tried only had S.E.A. countries listed and that posed a problem with getting it to work here (it couldn't get all the required settings automatically once I started the phone with its O2 sim). Yes I guess I could have manually installed a cab version of a full wizard but who wants to do that after any hard reset (and I still do those every few months when things start to slow down).
I'm hectically in IT, I just need something that works 100% and 100% all the time
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Been there done that (was a computer technician) and I know what you mean. The GUI may be a bit more sluggish and boot times longer but at least you get what you want - in my case the most important thing being brilliant GPS performance.
I was wondering if I was missing a post. I still get random Cyanogen Shut downs. I am using 4.2.13 after a wipe and still experience random shutdowns.
The phone just goes dark and I have to power it up again.
I have read some people attribute it to locked home screen and some people while using locale.
It is quite frustrating and I was wanting to know... if there isn't a fix, what Rom should I port back to. I need to clear this up because it gets aggravating missing calls.
Give superD 1.2 a try or even dwangs ROM they both are very speedy and well stable
Try re-flashing the rom, or you can try another rom as you said...i recommend Super D or WG Build....i myself use WG Build
You might be running out of system space.
Go to console:
$ su
# df
Check the Available next to /system. 28mb should be normal, but you could always apply the 10mb ramhack. Go with CFS for stability.
Can you recreate the scenario by which the phone will reboot on it's own and get a logcat?
No I cannot recreate it, it is very random. Afterwards I cannot logcat. I have tried wipe and reinstall of alot of his roms, all of them do the same thing.
I was hoping there was a fix because it is his rom I prefer.
I guess I will try another rom and maybe the problem will resolve itself.
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No I cannot recreate it, it is very random. Afterwards I cannot logcat. I have tried wipe and reinstall of alot of his roms, all of them do the same thing.
I was hoping there was a fix because it is his rom I prefer.
I guess I will try another rom and maybe the problem will resolve itself.
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Try Enoms rom if you tried Super D and WG-Build Y-2.6 with no success.
The problem you have is definitely weird.
I also suggest updating your Radio, Spl and RA Dream to the latest versions.
If possible try another microSD card preferably Class 6 to see if that fixes your problem.
I've been experiencing this same thing with random shut downs. I am running 4.2.13 also.
I have tried a wipe and re-install but the problem still exists.
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. The only thing I can say is that it always happens after the phone has been idle and when I go to pick it up it's powered down and I then need to power it back up.
It is very frustrating becuase you're never fully aware that the phone is off until you go to use it. I don't know if it's the ROM or some program that I've installed. I've been uninstalling all recent programs but so far the problem still exists. Perhaps I'll try one of the other recommended roms.
I have tried the stock rom and Dwangs rom, so I doubt its the ROM. Also I installed minimal applications and it still happens.
Its a toss-up between battery and phone. Although my battery is an extended battery, it can happen even when the battery is at 80%+ charge.
I called T-mo and they are going to swap out my phone. When I get it I will run the stock rom for a couple days with my Extended Battery. If it continues, I will put the stock battery back in it. Then I will go back and root it. If the problem comes back, then it has to be the rom.
Brutal-Force,
I'll eagerly wait your results. Unfortunately I purchased my G1 off of ebay a year ago so if it is the phone I'm out of luck.
Out of curiosity do you use Nitrodesk Touch down for Exchange? I've had some reboots right in the middle of synchronizing my email with this program.
Thanks
No I do not. As a matter of fact, I had uninstalled almost everything in an attempt to track down the culprit.
I really do think its gonna end up being the battery. Since the phone is not an option for you, I would recommend trying out a cheap 10 dollar battery off the internet. While I can't imagine why a charged battery would do this, I have noticed by looking at a friends G1 that the phone interprets batteries in different ways. In his phone his battery never showed below 90% even though after 10 hours it would run out of battery. As soon as he put in on the charger it showed 90%.
I to had purchased one of the extended batteries shortly after purchasing the phone. It has worked fine for just about a year but perhaps it is beginning to have problems. I'll dig out the original stock battery later today and try that for a day or so and see what happens.
Thanks
I have the same problem. My phone randomly restarts. It's more of an annoyance rather than a big problem, especially since it's almost always a restart and not a shutdown. If you guys do indeed find out it's the battery do post your findings here!
Thanks
I have exactly the same symptoms. Though before I saw this post I was attributing it to the fact that I have recently dropped my phone.
I also have a spare battery (I'm using Andida instead of original now), so I'll test to see if that happens with the original too.
Hmmm..
OK so i take out my extended battery and put in the original battery and plug it in to charge since it's on the low side. The phone immediately reboots and continues to do so indefinitely.
As soon as the home screen comes up it reboots.
So I put my extended battery back in and same thing. Now I'm not sure what to think so I've backed up my SD card and performed a complete wipe and am installing a completely different ROM.
I'm hoping it was the ROM or some program and not the phone.
I'll get back later.
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Hmmm..
OK so i take out my extended battery and put in the original battery and plug it in to charge since it's on the low side. The phone immediately reboots and continues to do so indefinitely.
As soon as the home screen comes up it reboots.
So I put my extended battery back in and same thing. Now I'm not sure what to think so I've backed up my SD card and performed a complete wipe and am installing a completely different ROM.
I'm hoping it was the ROM or some program and not the phone.
I'll get back later.
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Its good that you guys are investigating the cause of this issue. I too admitingly started using CM when I first rooted my phone. I too had issues and FCs so changing the Rom was the first thing that came to my mind.
You never know maybe its the battery (see the 1700 battery thread on the many problems Andidas has had with their G1 extended batteries)
In the end I am hopeful that you find a solution and have found out sometimes its as easy as changing Roms to fix many complaints/issues you might have.
This is what I've experienced so far.
I did a full wipe of my phone yesterday and installed the AOSP ROM (went away from cyanogen) and I have installed most of my programs. So far all is great. I've had no reboots or any other issues. Since yesterday I have been using my extended battery so I know the battery is OK.
I can't say for sure what was causing my issue. I had been using cyanogen's ROM for quite some time so I don't have a reason to think it was the ROM unless it was one of the current updates.
Perhaps I just had a collection of issues that came to a head and it was time to clean the phone and start over.
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Hi, First post here. Great site by the way.
I am having the same problem as you are. Cyanogen, manup's 2.1 (1.5) and the "official tmobile 1.6" rom would frequently reboot or shut off on me. I tried three different sd cards and completely wiped my phone everytime i went between these roms. After much frustration I unrooted my phone last week and went to stock 1.6. It was working perfectly fine but the terrible battery life convinced me to try rooting my g1 again. After going through all the steps the same symptoms came back. So in order to be able to use my phone I went back to the stock unrooted rom. I also would like to mention that before these symptoms came up I had my phone rooted since may 2009. I also tried various SPL's and recoverys while trying to resolve my problem. Thanks
Random reboots are the reason why I don't run CM roms for any length of time anymore. I do load them from time to time to check it out and what not, but more often than not, I always find myself back on a Dwang rom.
My new G1 should be arriving tomorrow, but it has been 2-3 days now with the original battery. No shut downs. While it will be nice to have a new phone (although my phone is unblemished) it will suck to have to re-root it. I am pretty certain its the battery.
I will recheck when I get my new phone set up, I will put the extended battery back in it. I am still pretty certain it is the battery though.
Have a few questions about Fresh, rooting, and Hero stuff in general, wasn't sure where to post. Wish there was a informal chat section.. lol
1. I've been running Fresh 1.5 with Gumbo Kernel and Fresh's android peep lock screen for about 5 months or so. Loved it. Decided to get with the times and try new roms, problem is most of them would boot loop my phone. After flashing all sorts, from what i can figure out, my phone won't take an overclocked ROM. Why might that be?
2. I Really wanted to run FreshToast, but it would either boot loop, or be so unstable it would reboot itself all day. So i settled on Fresh 2.1.2. Good so far (on day 2, fully configured), Almost seems like there isn't that much difference in performance from 1.5, but it's stable (which is one of the biggest things for me). I tried flashing Darchstar's Overclocked Kernel v4 for Fresh 2.1.2, but found that even an overclocked kernel boot loops. Is there any improved, non-overclocked kernel, like Gumbo, for 2.1.2?
3. Previously to running 2.1.2 i hated Launcher. I'm a senseUI guy. However it's not terrible i must admit. Been trying to get used to it just to try it out, however whenever i press the home button it takes me to sense home, then i have to press my shortcut back to Launcher. Is there a way to switch the default to Launcher, then later back to sense if i want? Some where there was an option for what the home button does, the way i read it was it would take to you Launcher home, guess not..
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4. If i'm understanding it right, 2.1.2 is "Stock Clocked" to ~700MHz, so if you run OCwidget (or setCPU) that you are actually underclocking (which has it's uses i guess). So my question here is, Using OCwidget, does it Never hit ~700MHz?
So i lied..
5. I didn't realize there was Fresh 2.3.3 when i flashed 2.1.2. Is it worth the effort to reflash to 2.3.3? I don't see how some of you guys can swap back and forth between ROMs all the time. It takes me two solid days of going through all the settings to get everything back to preference, drive me nuts!
Sorry for the long post. Any input on any of these is greatly appreciated. I have done a lot of research, so i know most the lingo. I'm still a noob, but don't pamper me, let me know what's up.
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6. How can i get a different lock screen on 2.1.2? I tried flashing the 'peep' one i had, but it didn't take. I've never had Fresh's Kitchen work for me, tried that too. I Hate the Vanilla lockscreen, mainly i just wanted something transparent, like the peep one.
I was hoping that day two and a full battery drain would fix this- pulled the phone off the charger for 5min to answer a phone call, batt dropped to 85%..
I used to be a Droid 1 user and I played with a lot of custom ROMs. Got the Droid 4 on release day and I'm thinking of playing around with custom ROMs.
If I install the recovery and a custom ROM, isn't the factory restore option always on the phone so anytime I want, I can restore the phone to the day I got it?
Are there any downsides to installing custom ROMs as of now (such as battery, glitches, etc)
I rooted my phone and I've seen a decline in battery life. There is another thread about it but I wanted to ask here, anybody else have this issue?
Lastly, is it worth installing custom ROMs now or just waiting for the official ICS update? I basically just want a working phone with the best battery possible. The only reason I rooted was to uninstall the bloatware on the phone however wifi tether and screenshot are nice to have.
Thanks!
Installing any custom ROM right now is going to be a little risky simply because there are no fastboot files to restore your phone with. Now, SafeStrap does a pretty good job of minimizing that risk by creating what is essentially a dualboot environment allowing you to run a secondary ROM on your phone while leaving the stock ROM intact.
I am running the ICS Beta ROM by Hashcode and it is running really well for me. Battery life has been fine, pretty much on par with stock. Being a beta there are things that are not perfect but I am using it as a daily driver with no issues. You can find a list of known bugs in the ROM OP. Although it seems to be hit a miss with some of them. I have had no issues with wifi or mobile data connections at all.
I ran stock rooted for about 1 1/2 weeks and didn't notice any decline in battery life personally. Not I froze apps rather than uninstalling anything so I could get them back if I needed to. And I really didn't freeze much unless it was something I saw running in the background that I knew I wouldn't need/use.
Really, if you are just looking for a phone that works with the best battery life, you are probably better off staying with stock. In my experience with the Droid 2, no ROM I ran could touch stock for battery life. And really, I think the stock experience on the D4 is fine. The bloatware wasn't overly bad IMO, smart actions is pretty neat, and the UI was plenty snappy. I'm just a flashaholic.
I am quite happy with stock after debloating it.
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Thanks for explaining safestrap. Does it actually set up a dual-boot environment, or does it swap out /system, /data, etc. I've tried reading hashcode's blog, but the instructions are a little fuzzy on what exactly is going on. I don't have my D4 yet, and I'd like to get a handle on what exactly safestrap is doing before I take the plunge.
Currently I have a D1 and I'll fully admit I'm spoiled that it is essentially unbrickable. Once, I screwed it up so bad that it wouldn't even boot up into recovery. I have no idea how I managed that, but a quick session with RSDlite fixed everything...
Of course, I know a lot more now than I did back then, but here is hoping we get hold of some fastboot images for the D4 soon...
I finally took the plunge and installed Safestrap. Once your phone is rooted, you just run an APK installed on your phone. The process feels incredibly clean, and I was completely comfortable that as long as I was careful, nothing bad would happen. This proved to be true.
It really does set up a dual-boot. I spent several hours today playing with CM9, and when I was done, I simply disabled the safe system, and the phone booted right back up into my rooted and debloated stock. The most dangerous part is making sure that you do NOT try to flash over the non-safe system, and, in fact, Safestrap generally won't even let you do that.
Not only did I find that Safestrap worked great, but CM9 works better on the Droid 4 than almost any other device I have played with it on. If they can make sure that the data connection is reliable and get the font camera working, it is practically ready for prime time. Everything else works great. I am now confident that we will see CM9 for the Droid 4 as soon as CM itself is complete and stable, since drivers do not seem to be a problem on this phone. I also suspect we will see some CM7-based roms quite quickly as well.
I am also very glad of the option to always easily revert back to the stock system without losing anything, it will make going to the Verizon store very easy if I ever need to.
I also came from a D1, installing ROMs was so easy, I'm a little hesitant on this one especially since a genuine ICS update is on the way. I might wait for that before I try custom ROMs. I use a front camera a lot so CM9 is unfortunately out of question. My battery issue was solved with a calibrate (deleting batterystats) even though it's not supposed to work, I can confirm that it definitely worked for me.
Once you toggle on the safe system, installing ROMS is just as easy as it was on the D1. What is nice, though, is you can keep your stock system fully in tact. I actually keep my phone on a simple rooted stock, but when a friend asks about Android ICS, I just toggle on the safe system, and boot it up. When I'm done, I toggle off the safe system, and back to stock. Safestrap is awesome.
core2kid... this is moto, the official update is gonna take 3-6 months so i would not suggest waiting it out.
i came from a D1 as well and safestrap bugged me out for a while... but once i installed and started using it i really like it. think of it as a dual-boot.
1 is your stock system that you do not f** with... you just leave it so that you have a backup should you f** up your...
2nd system is the one you flash all your ROMs on... no matter what you do to it, the first system is not touched, so you have to try REALLY hard to brick it.
Thanks. I'll give it a go. Last question, if I have hardware issues with the phone, is there a way to restore it to factory so I can warranty it? My main concern is my battery dying. I don't want to be stuck with a useless phone because the battery is in built.
i cant say with 100% certainty, but theres got to be a way.
as for the battery... it will probably die the day after your warranty is up, and by then there will be DIY replacement kits.
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as for the battery... it will probably die the day after your warranty is up, and by then there will be DIY replacement kits.
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With my luck, I can see that happening :/