just wondering if there's any benefit to putting apps on your sd with froyo. I'm new to having a nexus. and i'm using a class 6 sdcard. thanks
I would recommend. Since N1 comes with "limited" storage internal. This also helps with large Roms if you decide to flash. It totally helped me out with evil's Desire HD Rom!
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I've been reading up a bit about all the Hero, Blur, Donut releases and whatnot, and they keep mentioning the use of swap as if it's a casual everyday thing to have.
Call me conservative, call me paranoid, (hopefully, call me incorrect,) but what I've also read is that having swap kills your SD card faster than anything, as it's not built to be used that way.
I'd like to hear some information from people who have actually experienced problems from having swap kill their card. I have a 16gb SD card which I don't want to trash, so I hope that I've read the wrong thing and that it is indeed safe to have a swap partition on your card.
Also, from what I've picked up, class 6 cards are the best to use with swap. I have a class 2 card. Can anyone explain the difference between the two and why class 6 cards are better for that?
While I'm already posting a question thread, I'll go ahead and throw this one in... do bluetooth and LEDs work yet with the current Hero builds?
My reason for asking about all these is I've just gotten into the whole 'switchrom' scene, so I have really nothing to lose and can jump around firmwares quickly and without much hassle. I'd like to test a few other builds, Cyanogenmod is stable now so I have something to fall back on
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I've been reading up a bit about all the Hero, Blur, Donut releases and whatnot, and they keep mentioning the use of swap as if it's a casual everyday thing to have.
Call me conservative, call me paranoid, (hopefully, call me incorrect,) but what I've also read is that having swap kills your SD card faster than anything, as it's not built to be used that way.
I'd like to hear some information from people who have actually experienced problems from having swap kill their card. I have a 16gb SD card which I don't want to trash, so I hope that I've read the wrong thing and that it is indeed safe to have a swap partition on your card.
Also, from what I've picked up, class 6 cards are the best to use with swap. I have a class 2 card. Can anyone explain the difference between the two and why class 6 cards are better for that?
While I'm already posting a question thread, I'll go ahead and throw this one in... do bluetooth and LEDs work yet with the current Hero builds?
My reason for asking about all these is I've just gotten into the whole 'switchrom' scene, so I have really nothing to lose and can jump around firmwares quickly and without much hassle. I'd like to test a few other builds, Cyanogenmod is stable now so I have something to fall back on
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using linux-swap (i recommend swapper from the market -- [AFTER YOU HAVE PARTITIONED YOUR CARD FOR LINUX-SWAP!]) yes, shortens the life of you sd card because its pushing it capabilities much further than normal. Personally, i use a regular 2gb (non-class 6 or class anything) for all my hero ROMs and they work fine with the ext4 and swap. As an analogy - if you drive you car everyday on the highway safely going 55mph, or if you drive you car everyday on the highway going 130 and slamming the gas out of red lights.. which one would ensure a longer life for your car?
Class 2/4/6 refers the the data transfer rate. Class 6 being 6MB/SEC. Your class 2 would work, however. Its a risk you'll have to take... I have had the same 2gb micro in my phone for almost a year, using swapper with hero and non hero roms and ext3/4. Still not dead. Im sure what brand card you have, also plays a role in the life of your card.
As for your ?s about the Hero ROMS both the Herver and Kingklick have the best hero roms out there, IMO. They are SPEEDY and VERY optimized. I am also pretty sure?? that BT is not working on these roms. The LEDs are working great though! The notification LED is an alternation of all the led colors and looks pretty cool.
Hey Guys
Just installed Honeycomb with the marketplace for a couple days now. The most frequent problems that i run to are:
1. Web Browser: really slow. the pinch and zoom function takes a while to respond.
2. Youtube - still no worky? any ideas?
3. alot of my programs randomly and often forces closes on me.
any help is appreciated!
Thank you!
Go into the thread titled something about cm gapps.. flash it through a cwr card. That fixed tons of my issues. I was benching 500's oc'd and now im at 1500+. It runs a bunch smoother too... i think its the gingerbread framework
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Its a pretty decent hack that's based on the emulator images...
I'm honestly pleasantly surprised that it works for anyone...
From my experience, and from what I understand,
you cannot expect HC to be a daily ROM yet. There WILL be FC's and other issues until we have a custom HC ROM built specifically for the Nook.
All of your problems could stem from your SD Card. I've heard a lot of issues happen because yours isn't fast enough, is too fast, wasn't built during the right phase of the moon....
pretty much all my issues were resolved (market still wont show all apps) by flashing it to emmc. I would highly suggest flashing to emmc when the sd card causes the fc issues, i have a card that does this no matter which version of android i boot, and its supposedly class 6. my class 2 (smaller) card is faster.
so, I would say get a dedicated card for backup/restore purposes, back up what you have if you don't want to lose it, then flash it to emmc to resolve FC issues.
worked for me.
thanks for the replies guys.
i wonder if its my sd card.. it is an A-data 8gb class 6 card.
im thinking of going to Froyo for a more stable Operating system.
ive found the samsung units that come stock with the motorola droid (16gb) class 2 work really well... But honestly use the flashable emmc version and call it a day. I did it and love it.. Yeah a few of my apps don't work but the bulk are awesome and the new ui and email app are really great. For me the pros far outweigh the cons... Honey nook is really a great port
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I just bought a nook color. I want to run either honeycomb or cyanogen. Can anyone recommend a microsd card? Is it possible to erase the nook os and just install a rom on it? I have heard that one can over clock it up to 1ghz is this worth it or not? If anyone could just enlighten me I would really appreciate it.
Thank you very much!!! And Have a Great Day!!
Suggest you do searches and read the more popular development threads.
If people continue to hand out silver spooned information to every newcomer it just waters down the information on these forums.
The info's there, its not hard to find. I was new to android and the nook just a month ago.
I'll tell you right now if you expect everything to work out of the box on CM7 or Honeycomb you'll be sorely disappointed. Your best bet to get your feet wet is root first and stick with 2.1 and then try nookie froyo on SD. Once you're versed in doing things with ADB and whatnot THEN look to erase your internal memory and use an eMMC ROM.
As for overclocking, it helps but it won't turn the nook into a xoom by a long shot.
First suggestion is try getting a 4gig microSD class 4, and installing nookie froyo SD image on there. Practice with that and then move on if you feel comfortable.
It is indeed possible to replace the NC's OS install. Running from emmc (internal memory) is unnecessary however. You don't have to root / void your warranty / risk bricking your new device. You can try out both Honeycomb and CM7 without endangering your device at all. I recommend Sandisk now and nothing else having tried others. If you decide that you don't like either HC or CM7, just removing the SD card will allow the device to run in it's factory stock state. You'll be able to benefit from and apply B&N updates as well. If you could care less about the OS / functionality that they've provided then I guess there's not much sense keeping it. Later, you can fool around with the internal memory if you dare. I see little performance difference between the sd card I have and the internal storage myself.
Thanks everyone!! I will buy a sandisk class4. What is the max class for a micro sd?
Thanks again!
I have a 2GB microSD card and I want a ROM that I can just burn with win32diskImager and boot up from my Nook.
Any help would be appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022786
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
that's just the first two that i saw in dev section...
Sorry i'm not more helpful, i went the emmc route and am not as familiar with the SDcard threads
djlim4 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022786
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
that's just the first two that i saw in dev section...
sorry, but i would've thought a 200 count poster would know to check out the devs section for something like this, there are a lot of threads on it i believe
Sorry i'm not more helpful, i went the emmc route and am not as familiar with the SDcard threads
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I've already done searches and read for the past 2 days. I'm not an idiot, that's why I asked a question.
yea, my bad, there was absolutely no need for any extra comments from me, should be just trying to help. Edited my post. (getting off the nicotine patches this week)
anyway, good luck. if you need any help if you decide emmc route, let me know
Here's a good one for CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
If I were you I would go with CM7... Its easy, stable if you're SD is class 4, I havn't had one problem whatsoever. I'd say its the best SD Card only ROM for the NC.
I putting forward the Dual Phiremod and HC4 SD card rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018
- Phiremod has some nice customizations and based off CM7
- Also chance to try HC4 if you feel like it. Although in the end, I just ran with Phiremod.
FYI, was using an 8 Gig Class 6 transcend for these and was quite happy. Have moved to pure CM7 on emmc as of last night and Phiremod is very comparable.
Thank you guys a lot of good suggestions, I went ahead and bought an 8GB microsd but it's a class 10. I put the phiremod/HC dual boot on it and it seems pretty good, but every once in a while the nook will just pause like it's thinking. Is that the ROM or the sd card?
Higher class SD cards tend to suck as boot drives because they've been optimized for large, sequential writes (like taking rapid-fire, high-res photographs), whereas running an OS and apps involves lots of small, random writes. It really depends on the specific model, but Class 6 and above cards are often 50-100x slower than their cheaper brethren in the benchmark we need. This thread breaks it down fairly well, with some card recommendations (mostly Sandisk class 2 + 4):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
CM7 on my 16GB Sandisk class 4 certainly seems to run faster than stock 1.2 on the emmc.
I just bought a NC off the marketplace and wanted to see if there is anything I should know. I've had a G1, HD2, G2, and Thunderbolt. I'm not new to android. Anything unique I should know about the NC before it gets delivered? I believe it comes with an otterbox. The only thing I see that I've never handled before is the whole booting off the sdcard or eMMC, besides on the HD2. Hows the battery life on the device? I also see that some people have had some problems with CM7 builds, and from the little I've read the dreadful "screen of death". The NC seems to have a nice developer community.
I've got an ipad for the heavier lifting that the NC can't do like play AVI movies and youtube.
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I just bought a NC off the marketplace and wanted to see if there is anything I should know. I've had a G1, HD2, G2, and Thunderbolt. I'm not new to android. Anything unique I should know about the NC before it gets delivered? I believe it comes with an otterbox. The only thing I see that I've never handled before is the whole booting off the sdcard or eMMC, besides on the HD2. Hows the battery life on the device? I also see that some people have had some problems with CM7 builds, and from the little I've read the dreadful "screen of death". The NC seems to have a nice developer community.
I've got an ipad for the heavier lifting that the NC can't do like play AVI movies and youtube.
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First off, Welcome to the Community. Second, where did you here the nook can't play Youtube or AVI? It can do both well. Also the Nook is pretty much Unbrickable.
Okay in order for you to get started you need to decide between EMMC or SDcard for your Root/ROM.
If you want the best possible performance you should go with EMMC but this will prevent you from Sending it to B&N for Repairs without completely Reflashing it to Virgin Stock(A pain to do if you got everything Setup just right).
If you go the SDCard route you sacrafice some performance for a few other benefits. One, running a ROM off your SD doesn't require you to Root your Stock ROM. Also since your running it off the SD you can remove the SDcard and get the Normal Stock OS, meaning you can just pull the card if you need to send it back to B&N, or if you get a new Nook you can pop the SDcard in and have everything still setup the way you like it. Also if you screw up your SDcard it's a whole lot easier to fix than a screwed up EMMC.
Either way you'll need a MicroSD card. People recommend at least a 4gb class 6 card but SanDisk cards seem to do well no matter what class they are.
Next choose your ROM.
If you're going the EMMC route you have 4 options Sdcards have 3:
EMMC ONLY
-Rooted Stock (Auto-Rooters are avalable for v1.0-1.1 but 1.2[Froyo] is Manual Root only for now)
SDCARD & EMMC
-Normal Froyo (Currently has best battery life but isn't the best expirience on the 4 button Nook)
-CM7 [Android 2.3] (Currently the best ROM expirence on the Nook(ROM customized for Nook), has many built in features, including Soft Buttons on the Statusbar and Statusbar on bottom(Optional) However it currently suffers from Sleep issues that effect battery life but these should be fixed soon. Also GApps are easiest to install on it)
-Honeycomb [Android 3.0] (Androids Tablet specific version. However, it lacks some features found on official Tablets because it's made by Hacking the Honeycomb Preview Image given to Devs.)
Personally I'm running CM7 off a 4gb class 6 MicroSD and it runs really well over my previous Froyo ROM.
Let me know which one you choose and I'll point you to a good thread for getting started.
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^ Wow... that's about as best a response to a question I've seen in quite a while. I couldn't have said anything better myself. I'm still very new as well but that's great advice.
Japzone, thank you for that response.
It seem like the original user has a rom on the eMMC but would be willing to return the item back to stock. Aftering reading your post I believe I'll ask them to return the item to stock. I'll then load up CM7 on a sdcard, and should I decide to return to eMMC access I'll root it myself. How does the NC know to boot off the sdcard or install the zips on the sdcard?
ddgarcia05 said:
How does the NC know to boot off the sdcard or install the zips on the sdcard?
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When booting, the NC looks FIRST at sdcard so there is nothing special you need to do for that.
ddgarcia05 said:
Japzone, thank you for that response.
It seem like the original user has a rom on the eMMC but would be willing to return the item back to stock. Aftering reading your post I believe I'll ask them to return the item to stock. I'll then load up CM7 on a sdcard, and should I decide to return to eMMC access I'll root it myself. How does the NC know to boot off the sdcard or install the zips on the sdcard?
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Or you could do it yourself:
[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY!
Also here's the best way to install CM7 to your SD card:
[ROM][CM7] Size-agnostic SD Card image and CM7 installer for SD Cards. with updater
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After some more thought in gonna leave it rooted. Still, CM7 is what I want. EMMC
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