I'm New to NOOK not to Andriod. Got any tips? - Nook Color General

I just bought a NC off the marketplace and wanted to see if there is anything I should know. I've had a G1, HD2, G2, and Thunderbolt. I'm not new to android. Anything unique I should know about the NC before it gets delivered? I believe it comes with an otterbox. The only thing I see that I've never handled before is the whole booting off the sdcard or eMMC, besides on the HD2. Hows the battery life on the device? I also see that some people have had some problems with CM7 builds, and from the little I've read the dreadful "screen of death". The NC seems to have a nice developer community.
I've got an ipad for the heavier lifting that the NC can't do like play AVI movies and youtube.

ddgarcia05 said:
I just bought a NC off the marketplace and wanted to see if there is anything I should know. I've had a G1, HD2, G2, and Thunderbolt. I'm not new to android. Anything unique I should know about the NC before it gets delivered? I believe it comes with an otterbox. The only thing I see that I've never handled before is the whole booting off the sdcard or eMMC, besides on the HD2. Hows the battery life on the device? I also see that some people have had some problems with CM7 builds, and from the little I've read the dreadful "screen of death". The NC seems to have a nice developer community.
I've got an ipad for the heavier lifting that the NC can't do like play AVI movies and youtube.
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First off, Welcome to the Community. Second, where did you here the nook can't play Youtube or AVI? It can do both well. Also the Nook is pretty much Unbrickable.
Okay in order for you to get started you need to decide between EMMC or SDcard for your Root/ROM.
If you want the best possible performance you should go with EMMC but this will prevent you from Sending it to B&N for Repairs without completely Reflashing it to Virgin Stock(A pain to do if you got everything Setup just right).
If you go the SDCard route you sacrafice some performance for a few other benefits. One, running a ROM off your SD doesn't require you to Root your Stock ROM. Also since your running it off the SD you can remove the SDcard and get the Normal Stock OS, meaning you can just pull the card if you need to send it back to B&N, or if you get a new Nook you can pop the SDcard in and have everything still setup the way you like it. Also if you screw up your SDcard it's a whole lot easier to fix than a screwed up EMMC.
Either way you'll need a MicroSD card. People recommend at least a 4gb class 6 card but SanDisk cards seem to do well no matter what class they are.
Next choose your ROM.
If you're going the EMMC route you have 4 options Sdcards have 3:
EMMC ONLY
-Rooted Stock (Auto-Rooters are avalable for v1.0-1.1 but 1.2[Froyo] is Manual Root only for now)
SDCARD & EMMC
-Normal Froyo (Currently has best battery life but isn't the best expirience on the 4 button Nook)
-CM7 [Android 2.3] (Currently the best ROM expirence on the Nook(ROM customized for Nook), has many built in features, including Soft Buttons on the Statusbar and Statusbar on bottom(Optional) However it currently suffers from Sleep issues that effect battery life but these should be fixed soon. Also GApps are easiest to install on it)
-Honeycomb [Android 3.0] (Androids Tablet specific version. However, it lacks some features found on official Tablets because it's made by Hacking the Honeycomb Preview Image given to Devs.)
Personally I'm running CM7 off a 4gb class 6 MicroSD and it runs really well over my previous Froyo ROM.
Let me know which one you choose and I'll point you to a good thread for getting started.
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^ Wow... that's about as best a response to a question I've seen in quite a while. I couldn't have said anything better myself. I'm still very new as well but that's great advice.

Japzone, thank you for that response.
It seem like the original user has a rom on the eMMC but would be willing to return the item back to stock. Aftering reading your post I believe I'll ask them to return the item to stock. I'll then load up CM7 on a sdcard, and should I decide to return to eMMC access I'll root it myself. How does the NC know to boot off the sdcard or install the zips on the sdcard?

ddgarcia05 said:
How does the NC know to boot off the sdcard or install the zips on the sdcard?
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When booting, the NC looks FIRST at sdcard so there is nothing special you need to do for that.

ddgarcia05 said:
Japzone, thank you for that response.
It seem like the original user has a rom on the eMMC but would be willing to return the item back to stock. Aftering reading your post I believe I'll ask them to return the item to stock. I'll then load up CM7 on a sdcard, and should I decide to return to eMMC access I'll root it myself. How does the NC know to boot off the sdcard or install the zips on the sdcard?
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Or you could do it yourself:
[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY!
Also here's the best way to install CM7 to your SD card:
[ROM][CM7] Size-agnostic SD Card image and CM7 installer for SD Cards. with updater
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After some more thought in gonna leave it rooted. Still, CM7 is what I want. EMMC
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[Q] New User Help\Guide\StepByStep

Ok, here's the deal.
Fiancee got me a NC for my birthday because she read that it can be rooted and made into a formidable tablet. I agree with her and am stoked.
I don't have any dev experience, but I'm very familiar with rooting and flashing ROMs to our EVO 4Gs.
However, after reading through the developmental forum, I'm confused as to what steps I need to follow to turn my NC into a CM7 tablet.
Do I run autonooter? (The B&N store updated my NC to the 1.1.0 software yesterday in-store) Which one? Do I run it first?
After that, how do I flash CM7? Is there a more stable system\ROM\build?
With dealing with SD cards, I know this will be a bit against the grain for me because Rooting\Flashing the EVO is so easy and simple.
Any and all help will be appreciated.
(Side note question: Has anyone used a Steinheil Screen Protector on their nook? I see that SGP makes one for the Galaxy Tab, which has similar dimensions as the NC. Anyone?)
This seems like easiest to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9816724&postcount=64
kapurcell said:
This seems like easiest to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9816724&postcount=64
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Awesome.
So that "roots" the nook, like SimpleRoot does to my EVO?
And then I go through the process in the CM7 Phiremod post in the Dev forum?
Also - should I go buy a second MicroSD card to use, leaving the current one in the nook as a clean backup?
It's useful to have multiple microSD. I have a couple 2GB microSD for nootering and flashing new rom. I use a 16GB for main use as backup and data storage.
If you're new to Android, I recommend just nootering your stock 1.1 NC because it's most stable. Froyo, Honeycomb, and Gingerbread built are still in development and are being tested.
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I'm not new to Android, as I've been using various CyanogenMod and MIUI builds on my EVO since I bought it last year.
What I am new to is the use of SD cards for flashing. That's where I'm a bit shaky on the steps.
Before you can get a good answer we need more infromation.
1) do you care about the B&N stuff that your Nook came with?
2) what is your goal?
a) e-reader that can do tablet functions
b) Tablet that can do e-reader functions
Do you want to run the alt OS from the SDcard or from the flash memory?
So far there are 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, and 3.0 ROMS for the Nook. Where do you want to be?
painter_ said:
Before you can get a good answer we need more infromation.
1) do you care about the B&N stuff that your Nook came with? - Not really. As long as I have a way to read books that I get off demonoid.
2) what is your goal?
a) e-reader that can do tablet functions
b) Tablet that can do e-reader functions Preferably this.
Do you want to run the alt OS from the SDcard or from the flash memory?
So far there are 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, and 3.0 ROMS for the Nook. Where do you want to be?Are there advantages\disadvantages? Which is the most stable solution to rooting\flashing? I have CM7 on my EVO now, though I'll probably be switching over to the latest MIUI later tonight. I wouldn't mind something similar to CM7 on my NC.
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Does the above help at all?
Bump for some help. Thanks guys.
I've only been a NC owner for a week. From my experience, you need to play a bit. Usual disclaimers apply:
1. spend time playing with the default B&N config. Enjoy. Ok, for me that got boring after about 1 hour.
2. Autonooter 3.0 (since you are on 1.1.0). Then just play with your rooted NC. Enjoy. I was amazed at what this little guy could do after only a root. Test a bunch of apps. Read a bunch on this website. Test more apps that you read about. Try different backup software. Get comfortable with Eclair. Run Quadrant. Enjoy.
3. Dahlingren's OC kernel. Make sure you get the Eclair kernel. I installed the 1100 MHz one, and monitored for overheating and random reboots/force closes etc. This one worked well for me, and amazed me again at how much faster it was (run Quadrant again). Get comfortable with the procedure to flash a rom with CWR. Enjoy.
4. CM7 with OC kernel. Play, test, enjoy. If the current bugs are deal breakers, revert back to Eclair, or try Froyo or some other flavour. Enjoy.
It seems to be darn near impossible to brick this guy, so I haven't worried too much. Worst case scenario is I have a $250 paper weight, but the best case has been worth the risk to me.
Enjoy.

[Q] Nook Honeycomb starter

Honeycomb on Nook is awesome, the work done here is impressive. Congratulations!
I want to try it out, giving a Nook Honeycomb, and use it instead of a Moto Xoom (it's impressive, but I doesn't need the big screen, HDMI, cameras, dual-core CPU...)
what I need is a small tablet so that I can:
# browse and read news etc.
# use Gmail
# watch a few videos (YouTube or files)
# maybe read e-books (Kindle, B&N)
# run various small apps (maybe some games) - from Android Market
And I want:
# 6" or 7" display
# low weight
# long battery life
# WiFi
# 3G through a Bluetooth connection to my phone
# and low cost
Thats not an 800 USD Xoom for that. But a Nook with HoneyComb!
I'm not a developer but a relatively technical user, so I'm not afraid of buying a Nook and try out some stuff.
But I have som questions and would like some input. I may have misunderstood things and I apologize for stupid questions.
First decisions/questions:
1; what is eMMC? I can see that I should choose between SD or EmmC, so this is probably a fairly basic decision.
2; I gather I need to choose which port of Honeycomb to use. Right? (I have listed a few below).
3; it appears to be possible to either boot Android Honeycomb from the SD-card. Does that mean I can use the Nook as it was delivered if the SD card isn't present?
4; Is there any other basic decisions I need to take?
There's lots of posts here, and I've been reading back and forth, and from what I see this is what I need:
# get a Nook
# get a microSD card. Is there any recommendations?
# get a Honeycomb image/build. Could be:
-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936995 by deeper-blue
-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451 by dalingrin
-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954902 by phiredrop
# overclock the Nook to 1 or 1.1 GHz
# Disabling B&N OTA updates (or is this done automatically?)
# Dualboot?
# Installing various apps
# Network using Bluetooth - how?
Is this too deep water for me or should I plunge in?!
I personally think that you should dive in. Now first emmc is the name of the nooks internal memory.
I would recommend buying one and first using a micro SD to boot honeycomb and decide if you want to run it. It's a great port and great os but its not prime time yet on the nook.. I use it only, and even with its faults it is too 'tablet friendly' for me to switch.
YouTube is tricky at best. Ill let someone with more experience post about it. In my experience it's not real reliable for some reason
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I love my nook color, and it has a bright future. But u mentioned you wanted 3g and Bluetooth. Those are not available as of yet on nook color. I'm not sure if it has those internal components or not.
But it is a very capable device. Mine is setup comparable to the galaxy tab I would say, after rooting it and adding a custom rom.
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Thanks for the answers so far!
I can live without 3G/BlueTooth.
And I can live without YouTube. That will probably fixed along the way.
Is the current Honeycomb builds based on a prerelease SDK or is considered a final release?
Caspar07 said:
Thanks for the answers so far!
I can live without 3G/BlueTooth.
And I can live without YouTube. That will probably fixed along the way.
Is the current Honeycomb builds based on a prerelease SDK or is considered a final release?
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You can't use bluetooth for data, but you could certainly tether your nook to your smartphone. That's what I plan to do when I find myself without a wireless connection.
EDIT: Oh and you could visit the actual youtube website if you have flash installed (on a 2.2 or higher ROM).
Definately dive in. Buy a few microSD cards. Start by rooting the stock firmware and play with a launcher and the market. It's the most stable.
Install Honeycomb on an SD card and boot it. It's not bad but will be much improved in the next few weeks.
No bluetooth yet but you can wifi tether to your phone if your phone supports it.
BanditRider said:
Start by rooting the stock firmware and play with a launcher and the market. It's the most stable.
Install Honeycomb on an SD card and boot it. It's not bad but will be much improved in the next few weeks.
No bluetooth yet but you can wifi tether to your phone if your phone supports it.
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"Rooting stock firmware"?
Does that mean sort of copying the firmware, so You can restore later?
Again: good replies, much appreciated
To get you started.
At $250, the Nook Color sucks as an eReader. But as an android tablet, its the best purchase you could make. Nothing else comes close. Some notes on your comments.
1. The Nook Color(NC) has a boot priority to the microSD card, making it nearly impossible to 'brick.' I'd reccommend having two sd cards. A good class 10 one for your daily use, and a cheap 1gb one to keep a copy of clockwork recovery for quick repairs.
2. The bluetooth doesn't work, even though the device has the hardware. At this point, there is no speculation of it working in the forseeable future. HOWEVER, it works great using the WiFi hotspot on my HTC evo.
3. The device will run android 2.1 (eclair), 2.2 (froyo), 2.3 (gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb). All four have their issues. I've tested them all thoroughly, and prefer the standard 2.1 (also called stock NC) build for its stability. Feel free to try them all.
IF YOU SHOULD BUY ONE:
Instructions to root
Instructions to build a recovery SD card
Instructions on how to make root stock NC work well for you
Remember these links. They'll save you the hours of time I lost.
YouTube and Flash work perfectly for me on the 2.2 phiremod beta2 rom. I would say it is pretty stable. But if one is new to root they should just get used to rooting first. We are also over at androidtablets if you need help http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/
The above link for rooting seems broken. Here is the NookDevs links http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting *edit nevermind it's working sorry
Thank you
I've not yet done any recover steps after auto nootering a few weeks ago. This is going to help me go do these steps this weekend.
Tethering is going to be something i need come summer vacation where there's no connection any place, i have the MOTO Droid, and PDANet, so i'll try that some day soon, see if it holds up.
admiralnorman said:
At $250, the Nook Color sucks as an eReader. But as an android tablet, its the best purchase you could make. Nothing else comes close. Some notes on your comments.
1. The Nook Color(NC) has a boot priority to the microSD card, making it nearly impossible to 'brick.' I'd reccommend having two sd cards. A good class 10 one for your daily use, and a cheap 1gb one to keep a copy of clockwork recovery for quick repairs.
2. The bluetooth doesn't work, even though the device has the hardware. At this point, there is no speculation of it working in the forseeable future. HOWEVER, it works great using the WiFi hotspot on my HTC evo.
3. The device will run android 2.1 (eclair), 2.2 (froyo), 2.3 (gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb). All four have their issues. I've tested them all thoroughly, and prefer the standard 2.1 (also called stock NC) build for its stability. Feel free to try them all.
IF YOU SHOULD BUY ONE:
Instructions to root
Instructions to build a recovery SD card
Instructions on how to make root stock NC work well for you
Remember these links. They'll save you the hours of time I lost.
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You need to use an Adhoc method to tether droid to autonootered nook I believe. It doesn't work as is right off the bat with a 2.1 nook color and droid1.
Caspar07 said:
....But I have som questions and would like some input. I may have misunderstood things and I apologize for stupid questions.
First decisions/questions:
1; what is eMMC? I can see that I should choose between SD or EmmC, so this is probably a fairly basic decision.
2; I gather I need to choose which port of Honeycomb to use. Right? (I have listed a few below).
3; it appears to be possible to either boot Android Honeycomb from the SD-card. Does that mean I can use the Nook as it was delivered if the SD card isn't present?
4; Is there any other basic decisions I need to take?
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I was in the same boat... wanted a tablet to do pretty much what you are looking for... after reading the threads here, I got a Nookcolor...
1.. eMMC is the Nook's internal memory, where its current/stock B&N OS and apps are stored and run from. If you wanted to use a "custom rom" like Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, you could install it to eMMC, overwriting the stock B&N stuff... BUT you don't have to.
2. Right now, the honeycomb ports out there are based on the Pre-Release SDK (software dev kit), and made to work on an actual device, i.e. the NookColor. Because of this, it has some limits and bugs. The best HC Ports will come once HC goes AOSP (hopefully soon since the XOOM, which uses HC, is now for sale).
3. The NookColor is setup to try and boot from MicroSD card first, and if no OS on MicroSD, then boot off the eMMC. So, you could load up a card with another OS, play with it, and NOT TOUCH the stock B&N stuff... just pop the card in when you want to boot the other OS, and pop it out when you want to go "stock" (that is what I'm doing now).
This also means you can make up a MicroSD card strictly for the purpose of recovering/reloading the OS on your NookColor if something goes wrong when trying to install an alternate OS to the eMMC. (i.e. helps you "unbrick" your device).
Note: when getting a MicroSD card to boot an alternate OS from, its generally better to get a higher class card as they are usually faster (means the OS runs faster/smoother). But some of the lessor known brands often don't live up to their class ratings. And there have been issues with some people getting certain Class 10 (fastest) 16gig cards, so you'll have to do some home work, searching and reading the threads to decide on which card to buy.
4. You have many choices to make. Do you want to run stock B&N os/firmware (Eclair/2.1) as is out of the box? Do you want to root the stock OS and add your own apps? Do you want to try one of the Froyo (2.2), Gingerbread (2.3, the CM7 builds) or Honeycomb (3.0) ports and do you want to run them from MicroSD (slower) or eMMC (faster)?
While Wifi works with each Froyo and HC build I've tried, Bluetooth doesn't work with any of them.
Each port of Froyo, Gingerbread and HC has its own positives and negatives, so you have to investigate and figure out which one works best for you as a daily driver.
Me, I left the stock B&N NookColor OS and Apps untouched, and loaded up one MicroSD (Sandisk 8G class4) with Froyo following this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
And I loaded up another MicroSD card using the HC Preview v4, but it didn't meet my needs, so I'm waiting on the AOSP of HC to try again.
admiralnorman said:
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3. The device will run android 2.1 (eclair), 2.2 (froyo), 2.3 (gingerbread), and 3.0 (Honeycomb). All four have their issues. I've tested them all thoroughly, and prefer the standard 2.1 (also called stock NC) build for its stability. Feel free to try them all.
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Remember these links. They'll save you the hours of time I lost.
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Great help - thanks.
Still one question:
Is lack of stability in Honeycomb due to the fact that it's still early and very new, or is it due to incompatible hardware?
This is getting increasingly interesting
Caspar07 said:
Great help - thanks.
Still one question:
Is lack of stability in Honeycomb due to the fact that it's still early and very new, or is it due to incompatible hardware?
This is getting increasingly interesting
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Not really. Its kind of a developer's platform. So its made to run on a generic android device. As the programmer type people around here play with it, it gets better and better.
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KidJoe said:
I was in the same boat... wanted a tablet to do pretty much what you are looking for... after reading the threads here, I got a Nookcolor...
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And I loaded up another MicroSD card using the HC Preview v4, but it didn't meet my needs, so I'm waiting on the AOSP of HC to try again.
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Thanks for the lengthy answer. That was a helpful explanation.
Caspar07 said:
Great help - thanks.
Still one question:
Is lack of stability in Honeycomb due to the fact that it's still early and very new, or is it due to incompatible hardware?
This is getting increasingly interesting
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The devs currently do not have the Honeycomb source. What exists now has been pieced together from the emulator and is glitchy. Once they have the source (which should be soon as the XOOM is out now) we should begin to see improvements in HC roms.
Also, please recognize that not everyone has stability issues. I've been running the initial version of Sam's "flashable" Deeper Bulue image for 2 weeks, and don't have any stability issues.
It really depends on what apps you want to run. I have market working fine, with lots of apps downloaded. I did the ADHOC tweak early on, and can connect to wireless networks pretty much at will.
I read quite a bit, and spend a lot of "nook time" using it as an eReadr. I've worked my way through a number of books using the B&B Reader, Kindle, and Aldiko without any issues.
It's not a "production" image, but for me it works well.
admiralnorman said:
The bluetooth doesn't work, even though the device has the hardware. At this point, there is no speculation of it working in the forseeable future. HOWEVER, it works great using the WiFi hotspot on my HTC evo.
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Just got an execuse to buy myself a new gadget - a HTC Evo or similar
"Is the Nook Color the right Android tablet for me?"
I think the easiest way to answer this question is by how much you enjoy tinkering with things. If you want a tablet that "just works" then you'll want a Xoom or Galaxy Tab. But if you love playing and learning about how your gadgets work 'under the hood' then the Nook Color will be the best gadget purchase you've made in awhile.
I've honestly spent more time "getting it to work perfectly" than I have actually using it, but I've loved every minute of it. I won't lie, Java and/or Linux experience is a big plus, but by no means necessary.
admiralnorman said:
At $250, the Nook Color sucks as an eReader. But as an android tablet, its the best purchase you could make. Nothing else comes close.
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I just bought a Nook Color about a half hour ago and this post made me feel so much better about it. I've been debating it for some time and decided to take the plunge. I was worried that I might be late to the game but it has only been out for like 3 months.
Can anyone point me in the direction of Honeycomb for the NC? EDIT: Unless someone recommends a better ROM for now?
By the way, my name is Raj and I'll be spending lots of time here!

Brand new nook color

I just bought a nook color. I want to run either honeycomb or cyanogen. Can anyone recommend a microsd card? Is it possible to erase the nook os and just install a rom on it? I have heard that one can over clock it up to 1ghz is this worth it or not? If anyone could just enlighten me I would really appreciate it.
Thank you very much!!! And Have a Great Day!!
Suggest you do searches and read the more popular development threads.
If people continue to hand out silver spooned information to every newcomer it just waters down the information on these forums.
The info's there, its not hard to find. I was new to android and the nook just a month ago.
I'll tell you right now if you expect everything to work out of the box on CM7 or Honeycomb you'll be sorely disappointed. Your best bet to get your feet wet is root first and stick with 2.1 and then try nookie froyo on SD. Once you're versed in doing things with ADB and whatnot THEN look to erase your internal memory and use an eMMC ROM.
As for overclocking, it helps but it won't turn the nook into a xoom by a long shot.
First suggestion is try getting a 4gig microSD class 4, and installing nookie froyo SD image on there. Practice with that and then move on if you feel comfortable.
It is indeed possible to replace the NC's OS install. Running from emmc (internal memory) is unnecessary however. You don't have to root / void your warranty / risk bricking your new device. You can try out both Honeycomb and CM7 without endangering your device at all. I recommend Sandisk now and nothing else having tried others. If you decide that you don't like either HC or CM7, just removing the SD card will allow the device to run in it's factory stock state. You'll be able to benefit from and apply B&N updates as well. If you could care less about the OS / functionality that they've provided then I guess there's not much sense keeping it. Later, you can fool around with the internal memory if you dare. I see little performance difference between the sd card I have and the internal storage myself.
Thanks everyone!! I will buy a sandisk class4. What is the max class for a micro sd?
Thanks again!

[Q] newbie question

Hi all - I just got a NC and wonder if I should root it? I read that B&N is releasing an update soon. If I do go ahead and root it, will I be able to get the update when it's release?
Thanks
I just bought a NC myself... rooted and flashed CM7.
I LOVE IT ... in fact my wife and mom now want one and for me to 'hook them up' with some root/rom goodness.
If you want a simple eReader, don't root.
You want a slice of Awesome - root and don't look back
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Basically what Net said....my advice is if you just want basic Android use, wait for update and see what you think, then root if it's not enough. For now, just do the autonooter, it should be enough..if not go all the way with CM7 (which is the best option for full tablet)
Thanks! I ended up rooting the nook with auto nooter 3.0!
My next Qs is, do you guys run froyo off a microSD card?
i think you kind of answered your own question.
i bought my wife an NC last week after her using the Augen for almost 8 months.
like you we were told there was an update coming this weel so i decided to put froyo on her uSD card and leave the nook stock until AFTER the update.
THEN she can look and see if what I was told (on the downlo) about the new FW release is true.
I have a feeiling we will be updating her internal FW to froyo or HC, but this was she can play for a few weeksm and see whats out there!
Personally, so far I've left the internal memory ("eMMC") stock and booted other Androids only off SD card.
And now I'm glad I did it that way. Already I've found several books in my B&N "library" that will not download to the Nook app under CM7 -- they have animations/narration features and rather than degrade gracefully, the Nook app for generic Android refuses to download the book at all. And there are the other "in-store" features you lose.
Meanwhile, when I boot with the card in, CM7 is working very nicely off my old 2 GB microSD card. So I'm liking things this way so far.
I used jtbnet's procedure to do it all with 1 SD card without affecting the eMMC. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022786
P.S. You could just root the eMMC stock firmware and retain Nook Color book features, but what would be the fun in that?

[Q] Any ideas how the new partitions will affect new Nook Color buyers?

Doing a lot of reading on the changes that B&N is doing to the partitions of the Nook Color. Wondering now how it will affect those of us who are about to buy them with the intent to root and use a new ROM.
Details on the changes in my post linked below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13962169&postcount=17
Considering most people probably buy the NC for an actual e-reader, it won't affect them, but for us at XDA, it may stop a few people who are lazy, or people it think it's too much trouble.
If rooted builds don't have access to the 7GB partition for non-B&N content, it will make rooting pretty worthless, but then rooting is already pretty worthless compared to CM7.
A CM7(or whatever ROM) install to eMMC can probably treat most of that 7GB as system space, which could be even more beneficial to CM7 than B&N, given the order of magnitude more apps available for CM7.
A CM7 install to SD is straight up losing 4GB of storage (as well as the flexibility of sharing that storage with whatever OS is on the eMMC), but is otherwise unaffected.
I suppose it could be seen as a sneaky way of making the non-B&N options look less appealing to new owners.
My guess is that this was done in an attempt to keep the ROM installs isolated to just the SD card.
That way B&N can claim that their device isn't being affected by rogue hackers!
I Am Marino said:
Considering most people probably buy the NC for an actual e-reader, it won't affect them, but for us at XDA, it may stop a few people who are lazy, or people it think it's too much trouble.
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Please clarify your statements! It is Impossible to install a Rom to the EMMC of a newly partitioned NC! Don't generalize all of us with new nooks into a catagory of Lazyness!
Also, 2 days ago you post this--Quote
I'll be honest. The NC confuses me slightly when it comes to how to root, flash ROMs, etc. compared to my Incredible, it feels like day and night.
I made a thread about a month ago about wanting to learn the process but since then it has changed greatly with the 1.2 update.
I would really like if someone could detail out to me the steps I need to root and have CM7 on the NC.
I have questions that are probably answered right in front of me but they get lost in the vast amount of posts.
•Since the eMMC is pretty much canceled out for the time being, I want to run CM7 off the SD card, I've already read a Sandisk Class 2 8 or 16GB is the right card for this, how the hell do I put CWM, CM7, etc on this one SD card or am I supposed to use 2-3 different cards for the process? Then what do I do from there?
•What is the most stable, but feature packed release of CM7 at this point in time, like what build, which kernel, etc.? Market and GAPPS working?
•Assuming the SD card is good, does running off the SD card impact performance or is it as slick as running off the internal?
Pretty much I'm starting from dead scratch when it comes to the NC and I feel the guide threads don't do enough justice to explain certain questions fully enough or at all?
If it helps at all, I just plan to download apps, internet browse, stream music from Mougg, little or no game playing, and overclock.
So someone please help me out? It's not like I know nothing, as I have a rooted and kept up to date phone but for some reason, the NC confuses me and I may be overthinking.
If I remember any more questions, I'll list them. Thanks.
Sounds like to me, you are a Bit Hypocritical!!!!
Jimbo67 said:
Please clarify your statements! It is Impossible to install a Rom to the EMMC of a newly partitioned NC! Don't generalize all of us with new nooks into a catagory of Lazyness!
Also, 2 days ago you post this--Quote
I'll be honest. The NC confuses me slightly when it comes to how to root, flash ROMs, etc. compared to my Incredible, it feels like day and night.
I made a thread about a month ago about wanting to learn the process but since then it has changed greatly with the 1.2 update.
I would really like if someone could detail out to me the steps I need to root and have CM7 on the NC.
I have questions that are probably answered right in front of me but they get lost in the vast amount of posts.
•Since the eMMC is pretty much canceled out for the time being, I want to run CM7 off the SD card, I've already read a Sandisk Class 2 8 or 16GB is the right card for this, how the hell do I put CWM, CM7, etc on this one SD card or am I supposed to use 2-3 different cards for the process? Then what do I do from there?
•What is the most stable, but feature packed release of CM7 at this point in time, like what build, which kernel, etc.? Market and GAPPS working?
•Assuming the SD card is good, does running off the SD card impact performance or is it as slick as running off the internal?
Pretty much I'm starting from dead scratch when it comes to the NC and I feel the guide threads don't do enough justice to explain certain questions fully enough or at all?
If it helps at all, I just plan to download apps, internet browse, stream music from Mougg, little or no game playing, and overclock.
So someone please help me out? It's not like I know nothing, as I have a rooted and kept up to date phone but for some reason, the NC confuses me and I may be overthinking.
If I remember any more questions, I'll list them. Thanks.
Sounds like to me, you are a Bit Hypocritical!!!!
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What did quoting me prove?
Nothing.
I said the new partitioned NCs may lead to people not wanting to root because those people may be scared of going through the trouble to try to learn how to do root stuff otherwise or people too lazy to work around it. Had nothing to do with generalizations, before you try and make me look foolish, stop doing it to yourself.
By no means am I an expert at the content on this website and I'm quite new to the NC scene but that doesn't make me stupid and doesn't give you the right to try and throw me under the bus for some e-cred.
Besides all of the reading, like how hard is it to root a NC really?
Step 1. Put file on SD Card
Step 2. Boot up
Step 3. Um...like thats it!
I've had a harder time opening the front door when I've had a few drinks
*Just to clarify...the above was an attempt to difuse the situation with brevity*
Carry on!
Richard
I thought I was keeping current on Nook Color issues (rooting, ROMs, etc) but this is the first I've heard about changed partitions and how it may effect rooting the device. I'm running CM7 stable on internal memory and love it. I've got a microSD that boots the Nook into clockwork recovery or whatever that's called, I wipe everything and then install CM7 and gapps from the SD card, reboot and I'm done. I've installed the same setup on Nooks for two friends who envied my tablet. A third is about to go buy a Nook so I can do the same. if the Nook she buys has these new partitions will this process NOT work?
If you guys get the new partition, give this a try. I've done it myself since I had the new partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13971291&postcount=110
Works perfectly
So I got my refurbed Nook today and it has the changes to the partitions (blue sticker on box). I tried to load CM7 via CWM on the SD card and it won't boot at all. Is this because of the changes to the partitions?
cheez99 said:
So I got my refurbed Nook today and it has the changes to the partitions (blue sticker on box). I tried to load CM7 via CWM on the SD card and it won't boot at all. Is this because of the changes to the partitions?
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Yes....and see the post right above yours on how to solve it.
I just bought a nook yesterday; It was an older one still running the 1.1 upgrade. If I upgrade to 1.2, will my nook be repartitioned automatically?
schaan383 said:
I just bought a nook yesterday; It was an older one still running the 1.1 upgrade. If I upgrade to 1.2, will my nook be repartitioned automatically?
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As far as I know, No, it will not be.
I don't understand why B&N is putting so much effort into this. Rooting doesn't violate any carrier agreements, since this is a wi-fi only device, and their store is still available for use after a root. If they're worried about book piracy, that can be done without root. Any insights?
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Deegan87 said:
I don't understand why B&N is putting so much effort into this. Rooting doesn't violate any carrier agreements, since this is a wi-fi only device, and their store is still available for use after a root. If they're worried about book piracy, that can be done without root. Any insights?
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B&N discourages rooting for many reasons, including the fact that they only paid Google specific licensing fees and now most of us are running the full OS.
There is also the fear that we will damage the device and return it, which will directly affect their bottom line.
Whether or not WE think rooting is good may have nothing to do with how B&N and its investors thinks this affects their image.
No matter what, rooting is an out of control rogue operation in the eyes of any company. That lack of control scares them.
Secretly they may be fine with us rooting, but they are under a business obligation to their partners to protect the original design specs.
Sent from my rooted Nook Color acting as a Galaxy Tab.
Well for me, I would not have bought the Nook Color unless the root and full android install was an option.
I think there is probably a lot of people in the same boat that bought the device because it was primarily a nice way to get into a tablet with the added bonus it is a very good size for an e-reader.
Bottom line, there probably is a substantial increase in sales because of what people have done here making this a full android tablet.
It would be ill-advised for BN to impact this capability.
tbXDA said:
Bottom line, there probably is a substantial increase in sales because of what people have done here making this a full android tablet.
It would be ill-advised for BN to impact this capability.
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I don't know about that.
Remember although like 9/10 of the people here root and mod things, we're still a very small minority, most people probably actually did buy the NC for the e-reader, only as people keep word of mouth going do they figure out more about what they can do.
I Am Marino said:
I don't know about that.
Remember although like 9/10 of the people here root and mod things, we're still a very small minority, most people probably actually did buy the NC for the e-reader, only as people keep word of mouth going do they figure out more about what they can do.
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Absolutely right. There have been over 3 million sales of the Nook Color so far. We may be a very large community but we are a drop in the profit bucket, and most likely considered a risk in comparison.
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I just got a new blue sticker nook color and am having some issues. I understand that the software for installing images hasn't been modified to reflect these partitions yet but does it make sense that running from sd shouldn't work? I've been following verygreen's guide and using the exact versions and links that he has there but it hangs on "Loading...". If I try to use the nightlies instead I can sometimes make it to the cyanogenmod animation but every one I've tried freezes either there or earlier. Has something changed with the blue sticker nooks that would make us expect either generic-sdcard-v1.2.1 or update-cm-7.1.0-RC0-encore-2.6.32-beta3.1 to no longer work properly? I thought that this might be relevant to post in verygreen's thread but I haven't made enough posts to do that yet.
Help Please
Ok, so I've had a rooted NC since February and have ran most everything at one point or another thanks to the good people at XDA. I currently have CM7 .32 on mine.
My buddy saw my system and decided he liked it and bought one. I ran clockwork mod and flashed CM7 .32 on his NC. There was no notification bar on his and the cyanogen settings were force closing. I think he may have had the partitions on his. I'm trying to create an SD card CM7 for him, but I would like to fix his emmc as well. The adb partition fixes are really above my head as I have never been able to get adb to work.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

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