hi, i'm from the x10 forum converting to a nexus one =) I searched around and I'm a little bit confused about rooting for flashing roms. I see some guides about unlocking the bootloader first, then rooting. ( i think old method??) Now theres the one click root, am i required to unlock the bootloader first, then use the 1 click root, because i know the 1 click root doesn't unlock the bootloader.
so first do i have to unlock bootloader, and if i do, can i use the 1 click root with unlocking bootloader? and can i load a rom after i root without unlocking the bootloader?
I also read on a different website that unlocking the bootloader is only required for phones locked to a provider, so does that mean that if i unlock the bootloader, my phone will also be network unlocked?
Just want to get this right so i dont' brick my new phone tomorrow
You don't need to unlock the bootloader.
Once rooted, you will need a custom recovery to flash new roms.
Make sure you use a recovery that is compatible with your screen (SLCD requires the newer Amon Ra).
Check out the wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One
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U can use this new SuperOneClick v1.4 (Root, Enable Non-Market App, Get UNLOCK code):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Better to Unlock bootloader
One click root is an amazing thing. It helps you root your android and install recovery without unlocking bootloader and voiding your warranty. But its better to unlock your bootloader just to be on the safer side. Stock roms flash both the Rom and the recovery. Froyo 2.2.1 even reverts an already rooted device.
Warning: your warranty will be void if you unlock bootloader.
galaxys said:
U can use this new SuperOneClick v1.4 (Root, Enable Non-Market App, Get UNLOCK code):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
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Wrong thread - that app is for the AT&T Captivate.
cmstlist said:
Wrong thread - that app is for the AT&T Captivate.
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Wrong, the thread's 1st post states what devices it works on and the Nexus is listed...
"It works with almost all phones and all android versions. (including the i9000, Droid, Nexus One)"
Okay but why do we Nexus folks care that the app can get Samsung unlock codes and enable a feature that was never disabled on our phones in the first place?
And why would we prefer a Windows app to an on-device root method?
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@danger-rat thanks for the info, i didn't realize that there would be a difference between slcd and amoled, I got the amoled one so i think i'm safe on most recoveries?
@galaxys and inferus- oneclickroot is the best, thats how i got my x10 rooted, but sony's epic fail is forcing me to change over to something more updated, i'm sick of being stuck on 1.6. so no worries about bootloader?
can anyone answer my last question, is my phone locked to tmobile only until i unlocked it? or does it come unlock, and it just a tmobile version because its compatible with tmo 3g?
sushi143 said:
can anyone answer my last question, is my phone locked to tmobile only until i unlocked it? or does it come unlock, and it just a tmobile version because its compatible with tmo 3g?
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The Nexus isn't locked to any carrier, but the hardware is specific to different frequencies. For example, I took my T-Mo nexus to the UK earlier this year, switched out the SIM for an Orange one, and everything was great. However, if I use an AT&T SIM, I will only get 2G speeds because AT&T uses a 3G frequency that's not supported by the T-Mo nexus hardware.
Do a wiki search on the carrier you want, and it will list the operating frequencies for their network - just compare with you phone specs for compatibility.
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Hey Guys
I have bought myself a stock unlocked AT&T version of the Nexus one
It has never been rooted and I am on FRF85 at the moment (that was upgraded from EPE54b to FRF85 using the manual update method
Questions:
1. Does unlocking the bootloader mean you basically sim-unlock your phone?
2. If I have a stock unlocked phone, do I need to unlock the bootloader to root?
3. If I dont need to unlock the bootloader, when/if I decide to root my N1, will I lose warranty?
I guess question 3 is dependent on 2 above
Thanks
Unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with sim unlocking your phone, these are two complete separate things
1 no. but I think there is no locked n1 available, so it is unlocked quite sure
2 maybe, depends on your build number. I think you have to unlock your bootloader with the att version
3 no
watercool said:
Unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with sim unlocking your phone, these are two complete separate things
1 no. but I think there is no locked n1 available, so it is unlocked quite sure
2 maybe, depends on your build number. I think you have to unlock your bootloader with the att version
3 no
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regarding rooting without unlocking bootloader, see the sticky in the nexus android development section
@flybyme - thanks for your reply - i had a look at the sticky thread you were talking about rooting without unlocking the bootloader.
1. what's easier? Rooting with unlocking the bootloader or without the bootloader?
2. What's more fool-proof so-to-speak?
3. What would you recommend?
Sorry for so many questions but thanks for reading
1. With unlocking the bootloader is alot simplet BUT you will loose your waranty.
2. Once either process is complete there's no real difference since you can use the custom recovery in exactly the same way to flash any further roms.
3. I would suggest _without_ unlocking the bootloader. At least give it a try, the worst that can happen is it doesnt work.
It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?
Paul22000 said:
It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?
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Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.
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Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.
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Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.
Paul22000 said:
Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.
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Yes, unlocking your bootloader = the ability to flash images to your Nexus One using fastboot. That's it.
What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?
brettbellaire said:
What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?
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I think you can just root then via SuperOneClick.
I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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You'd see a padlock icon at the bottom of the 'X' screen as you boot up if you are unlocked.
Thanks, so I'm locked.
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OK first post here. I have done a fair bit of reading and searching but still have a couple of questions. I have just bought a Captivate. Made 3 phone calls with it and that's it. It has already been rooted and unlocked by the seller. I know if I upgrade to 2.2 via KiesMini it will remove the unlock and root. After the update can I unlock and root again. ? I hear Super One Click might root it. I have the code numbers from the original unlocking. What can I use to unlock it? Thanks
you dont lose the unlock by updating it. even if you did, you have the code so it doesnt matter. you dont need it unlocked if you are staying on ATT....unlocking is so you can stick another providers SIM card in and use it on any GSM carrier
I am not on AT&T. I have an AT&T phone that's used on Roger's. That's why it needs to stay unlocked.
emtae001 said:
I am not on AT&T. I have an AT&T phone that's used on Roger's. That's why it needs to stay unlocked.
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if you have the code then it doesnt matter if the unlock goes away.
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What can I use to unlock it? Thanks
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Use the SIM you intend to use plus the code previously extracted. [APP]SuperOneClick v1.7 (Root, Unroot, Enable Non-Market App works on Froyo.
Update. Unlocked and rooted phone. Updated with Kies Mini to Froyo 2.2. Phone remained unlocked after update. Root was gone. Used SuperOneClick 1.7 and root was back. No problems at all.
I have owned about 5 android phones all have been rooted and rommed. I have been trying to look to see if the phone is already unlocked from t mobile and if theres a recovery ready to be flashed. I was looking at the CFauto root guide and somewhere in the post it says custom recovery is ready but i don't see a download for the recovery. Is it included in the ODIN file?
nazzo123 said:
I have owned about 5 android phones all have been rooted and rommed. I have been trying to look to see if the phone is already unlocked from t mobile and if theres a recovery ready to be flashed. I was looking at the CFauto root guide and somewhere in the post it says custom recovery is ready but i don't see a download for the recovery. Is it included in the ODIN file?
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The T-Mobile Note 4 is bootloader unlocked from the manufacturer. The SIM is locked, but now easily unlockable through online unlocking services.
Root available through CF.
Still waiting on custom recovery.
done12many2 said:
The T-Mobile Note 4 is bootloader unlocked from the manufacturer. The SIM is locked, but now easily unlockable through online unlocking services.
Root available through CF.
Still waiting on custom recovery.
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So I just have to "unlock" the phone to be able to use on other carriers?
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Yes. Unlock for use on any GSM network. Verizon and Sprint are CDMA networks so it will not work on them.
ohhh ok cool because i was with verizon for a long time and every phone was locked down
Wait wait wait...sorry about my confusion here, but I've been with Verizon for a couple years. Are you saying T-Mobile phones come with the bootloader unlocked? Is AT&T like this too? I'm already prepared to jump ship, but if this is true, I'm definitely gonna say goodbye to big red.
T-Mobile only.
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Wait wait wait...sorry about my confusion here, but I've been with Verizon for a couple years. Are you saying T-Mobile phones come with the bootloader unlocked? Is AT&T like this too? I'm already prepared to jump ship, but if this is true, I'm definitely gonna say goodbye to big red.
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Yes, the bootloader is unlocked on the T-Mobile. I'm using one now on the AT&T network. Feels good to be rocking and rooted, unlocked bootloader and carrier unlocked N4. Happy flashing to all!!!
Is there a thread on here on how to root the Nexus 6 with AT&T carrier, running stock Lollipop 5.1? Or rather, what is the simplest way to root? I already ADB and the necessary USB drivers installed.
Same technique as any other Nexus. Either use a toolkit or CF autoroot or my preferred way of using fastboot.
I've actually heard that some methods can't be used if you're tied to a carrier. Something about something on the phone being locked.
I used a toolkit with no problem and I am on Verizon.
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I've actually heard that some methods can't be used if you're tied to a carrier. Something about something on the phone being locked.
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Let's clear this up.
On an android device there are 2 things that can be locked.
1 - SIM lock. Some carriers lock this as they subsidised phones so they only want you to use it in their network
2 - the bootloader
On some other android devices, some carrier versions have either a locked bootloader or an unlockable bootloader, when other versions of the same phone do not.
However, unlike other android devices, there isn't any difference between the carrier versions. There are only 2 models of nexus 6. The North America version and the international. Both models are identical hardware wise, except different radio bands.. The carrier "versions" are all the same except logos, boot animations and sounds. That's it.
On the nexus 6, they all have a locked but completely unlockable bootloader. There is one process for root. Unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery then from there either flash a ROM or flash a SuperSU.zip
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I've actually heard that some methods can't be used if you're tied to a carrier. Something about something on the phone being locked.
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This would be news to me and I've had the phone since it launched on Sprint. AFAIK, the phone is rooted/unlocked in the same manner regardless of carrier. The AT&T version is Sim locked and possibly Rogers as well. That's it.
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Let's clear this up.
On an android device there are 2 things that can be locked.
1 - SIM lock. Some carriers lock this as they subsidised phones so they only want you to use it in their network
2 - the bootloader
On some other android devices, some carrier versions have either a locked bootloader or an unlockable bootloader, when other versions of the same phone do not.
However, unlike other android devices, there isn't any difference between the carrier versions. There are only 2 models of nexus 6. The North America version and the international. Both models are identical hardware wise, except different radio bands.. The carrier "versions" are all the same except logos, boot animations and sounds. That's it.
On the nexus 6, they all have a locked but completely unlockable bootloader. There is one process for root. Unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery then from there either flash a ROM or flash a SuperSU.zip
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well said!
but one correction. when flashing a rom, well most but not all roms, you also have to flash supersu for root. or you wont have root on that rom
simms22 said:
well said!
but one correction. when flashing a rom, well most but not all roms, you also have to flash supersu for root. or you wont have root on that rom
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Good point. What I should have said is flash a rooted ROM.
Okay, I get it now
So which is easier and safer to use: CF auto root or the Nexus rootkit? Do these work regardless of Android version?
toledodj said:
So which is easier and safer to use: CF auto root or the Nexus rootkit? Do these work regardless of Android version?
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Please use fast boot. Read the sticky thread by @micmars