It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?
Paul22000 said:
It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?
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Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.
efrant said:
Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.
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Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.
Paul22000 said:
Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.
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Yes, unlocking your bootloader = the ability to flash images to your Nexus One using fastboot. That's it.
What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?
brettbellaire said:
What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?
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I think you can just root then via SuperOneClick.
I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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arminsoyka said:
I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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You'd see a padlock icon at the bottom of the 'X' screen as you boot up if you are unlocked.
Thanks, so I'm locked.
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How do i tell if my bootloader is unlocked or not?Its the tmobile version on at&t that I bought from google.
why would you buy the tmobile version to use on at&t?
because this was the only one that they offered at that time and there is no 3g hear in my home town
If you have an unlocked lock on bootup.
thanks dont see unlocked lock.i gess i will unlock and root
You don't need to unlock it to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
Yeah, I'd avoid unlocking the bootloader unless you absolutely want to. It's easy to root and then flash a custom recovery without unlocking.
why not unlock bootloader i have no warranty anymore?
IIRC out does void your warranty
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wildchild048 said:
why not unlock bootloader i have no warranty anymore?
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It voids your software warranty but not the hardware one, as far as I know. But it also has an "unlocked" logo during boot-up which might be discouraging to aesthetes.
hi, i'm from the x10 forum converting to a nexus one =) I searched around and I'm a little bit confused about rooting for flashing roms. I see some guides about unlocking the bootloader first, then rooting. ( i think old method??) Now theres the one click root, am i required to unlock the bootloader first, then use the 1 click root, because i know the 1 click root doesn't unlock the bootloader.
so first do i have to unlock bootloader, and if i do, can i use the 1 click root with unlocking bootloader? and can i load a rom after i root without unlocking the bootloader?
I also read on a different website that unlocking the bootloader is only required for phones locked to a provider, so does that mean that if i unlock the bootloader, my phone will also be network unlocked?
Just want to get this right so i dont' brick my new phone tomorrow
You don't need to unlock the bootloader.
Once rooted, you will need a custom recovery to flash new roms.
Make sure you use a recovery that is compatible with your screen (SLCD requires the newer Amon Ra).
Check out the wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One
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U can use this new SuperOneClick v1.4 (Root, Enable Non-Market App, Get UNLOCK code):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Better to Unlock bootloader
One click root is an amazing thing. It helps you root your android and install recovery without unlocking bootloader and voiding your warranty. But its better to unlock your bootloader just to be on the safer side. Stock roms flash both the Rom and the recovery. Froyo 2.2.1 even reverts an already rooted device.
Warning: your warranty will be void if you unlock bootloader.
galaxys said:
U can use this new SuperOneClick v1.4 (Root, Enable Non-Market App, Get UNLOCK code):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
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Wrong thread - that app is for the AT&T Captivate.
cmstlist said:
Wrong thread - that app is for the AT&T Captivate.
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Wrong, the thread's 1st post states what devices it works on and the Nexus is listed...
"It works with almost all phones and all android versions. (including the i9000, Droid, Nexus One)"
Okay but why do we Nexus folks care that the app can get Samsung unlock codes and enable a feature that was never disabled on our phones in the first place?
And why would we prefer a Windows app to an on-device root method?
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@danger-rat thanks for the info, i didn't realize that there would be a difference between slcd and amoled, I got the amoled one so i think i'm safe on most recoveries?
@galaxys and inferus- oneclickroot is the best, thats how i got my x10 rooted, but sony's epic fail is forcing me to change over to something more updated, i'm sick of being stuck on 1.6. so no worries about bootloader?
can anyone answer my last question, is my phone locked to tmobile only until i unlocked it? or does it come unlock, and it just a tmobile version because its compatible with tmo 3g?
sushi143 said:
can anyone answer my last question, is my phone locked to tmobile only until i unlocked it? or does it come unlock, and it just a tmobile version because its compatible with tmo 3g?
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The Nexus isn't locked to any carrier, but the hardware is specific to different frequencies. For example, I took my T-Mo nexus to the UK earlier this year, switched out the SIM for an Orange one, and everything was great. However, if I use an AT&T SIM, I will only get 2G speeds because AT&T uses a 3G frequency that's not supported by the T-Mo nexus hardware.
Do a wiki search on the carrier you want, and it will list the operating frequencies for their network - just compare with you phone specs for compatibility.
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Hi guys i have the dev edition moto x. I rooted it and unlocked the bootlaoder, because i wanted to try out custom roms. i amtr now trying to put the phone back to stock. I followed the guide and i got the stock image back on the phone, but for some odd reason the bootloader wont get locked. I get sst lock failure in the command window. I need to send this phone back. any advice?
It's impossible to lock it again. If you have the pure edition you didn't lose your warranty anyway so don't worry.
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AGISCI said:
It's impossible to lock it again. If you have the pure edition you didn't lose your warranty anyway so don't worry.
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You can relock your bootloader.
flameinthefire said:
Hi guys i have the dev edition moto x. I rooted it and unlocked the bootlaoder, because i wanted to try out custom roms. i amtr now trying to put the phone back to stock. I followed the guide and i got the stock image back on the phone, but for some odd reason the bootloader wont get locked. I get sst lock failure in the command window. I need to send this phone back. any advice?
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Always read and read some more before you take someone's word.
Straight from the horses mouth.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91987/p/1449,8620
matt99017d said:
You can relock your bootloader.
Always read and read some more before you take someone's word.
Straight from the horses mouth.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91987/p/1449,8620
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Actually that does NOT put it back to locked. There are 3 bootloader states:
Locked
Unlocked
Relocked
Once you unlock it, it is impossible to go back to locked. He can only change it to "relocked" which anyone can see that it has been unlocked before. Try searching the forums more and you will see what I mean.
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Actually that does NOT put it back to locked. There are 3 bootloader states:
Locked
Unlocked
Relocked
Once you unlock it, it is impossible to go back to locked. He can only change it to "relocked" which anyone can see that it has been unlocked before. Try searching the forums more and you will see what I mean.
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Relocked would be re-(LOCKED)
hence it is locked. Meaning that you can only flash signed images. You are right in the fact that people can see that it has be unlocked before. But when its relocked the bootloader is still locked.
matt99017d said:
Relocked would be re-(LOCKED)
hence it is locked. Meaning that you can only flash signed images. You are right in the fact that people can see that it has be unlocked before. But when its relocked the bootloader is still locked.
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... For warranty purposes "relocked" does not help. With relocked they WILL know that he unlocked it.
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For warranty purposes it does not matter when you have the pure edition. They have already said that its still covered under warranty.
In the first post he says he wants to lock it to send it back, but the point is that it does not matter and that they will know anyway.
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AGISCI said:
In the first post he says he wants to lock it to send it back, but the point is that it does not matter and that they will know anyway.
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Even if he never unlocked they would assume it has been unlocked anyway and if unlocking a Pure Edition would void the warranty (which it apparently doesn't) his warranty would already be void. When you put your ID string into the website to get the unlock code it very clearly tells you that once you click continue they update the device as unlocked in their records whether you actually unlock it or not because you asked them for the unlock code.
Well if he has dev edition moto x instead of pure edition then he probably needs to search OG moto x thread not the 2014 moto x
This is all irrelevant. Unlocking the bootloader on an XT1095 will not void the warranty per Motorola's website. Also per their website....requesting and have the unlock code for your device sent to you is the same as actually unlocking the device. In other words, they know what devices they sent out unlock codes for and as soon as they send that code they then assume that it was used and the device was unlocked. It does not matter if you decide not to use the code, if they sent it, then they consider it used on the device. They caution about that in the verbage that they want you to read before requesting the code. That of course does not apply to the Pure Edition (XT1095) since they consider that model a developers edition. So unless you have somehow damaged the device and it will no longer work properly, it really does not matter if the bootloader is unlocked or locked.
hello guys ) i just wanna ask if its possible to flash android m with nexus root toolkit or no ??
Apparently, yes. https://plus.google.com/113329792100896065459/posts/ZFUJD6Yn4hm
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Apparently, yes. https://plus.google.com/113329792100896065459/posts/ZFUJD6Yn4hm
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thank you for the fast reply
Yes I followed those steps and flashed it perfectly.
BossJ said:
Yes I followed those steps and flashed it perfectly.
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yeah same here, everything went more then well.
Should I relock the bootloader after flashing M ?
M5Rahul said:
Should I relock the bootloader after flashing M ?
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NOOO!!!!
To many folks have encountered an issue that soft-bricked their device afterwards.
You will still receive OTA with an unlocked bootloader.
M5Rahul said:
Should I relock the bootloader after flashing M ?
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you can relock it (safer) but if you want to flash any new rom later you will loose all your data. cause everytime you flash you need to unlock the bootloader. its up to you
stricker said:
you can relock it (safer) but if you want to flash any new rom later you will loose all your data. cause everytime you flash you need to unlock the bootloader. its up to you
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Hang on now, lets be clear about the advice that we're giving here.
Yes, a locked bootloader is safer if a thief were to get his hands on your device. However, locking the bootloader has a whole host of other problems linked to it. For example, if you end up in a boot loop with a locked bootloader because something breaks in the rom or kernel, if you have stock recovery, you can never unlock the bootloader again, without sending it for repair.
I would suggest people using experimental ROMs should keep their bootloader unlcoked to avoid this
danarama said:
Hang on now, lets be clear about the advice that we're giving here.
Yes, a locked bootloader is safer if a thief were to get his hands on your device. However, locking the bootloader has a whole host of other problems linked to it. For example, if you end up in a boot loop with a locked bootloader because something breaks in the rom or kernel, if you have stock recovery, you can never unlock the bootloader again, without sending it for repair.
I would suggest people using experimental ROMs should keep their bootloader unlcoked to avoid this
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If I did lock the boot loader, can it not be unlocked again using NRT ? I'm wondering since this (Android M) is an official release from Google, there should be a way to unlock the Boot loader if someone wants to roll back to lollipop ... Am I wrong in this assumption ?
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M5Rahul said:
If I did lock the boot loader, can it not be unlocked again using NRT ? I'm wondering since this (Android M) is an official release from Google, there should be a way to unlock the Boot loader if someone wants to roll back to lollipop ... Am I wrong in this assumption ?
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It's a security feature whereby if you do not have "enable OEM unlocking" set in the rom, you cannot unlock the bootloader. If you don't have it set, have stock recovery then have a rom that will not boot, you cannot set that, ergo cannot unlock the bootloader. If you're going to mess with exxperiemental previews, I would suggest not re-locking the bootloader.
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It's a security feature whereby if you do not have "enable OEM unlocking" set in the rom, you cannot unlock the bootloader. If you don't have it set, have stock recovery then have a rom that will not boot, you cannot set that, ergo cannot unlock the bootloader. If you're going to mess with exxperiemental previews, I would suggest not re-locking the bootloader.
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I just checked and the 'OEM unlocking' option is turned on under Dev Options.
So, can I unlock the bootloader and flash back to 5.1.1 ?
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M5Rahul said:
I just checked and the 'OEM unlocking' option is turned on under Dev Options.
So, can I unlock the bootloader and flash back to 5.1.1 ?
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If you like.
I cant unlock frp as It is grayed out the option of oem unlocking in the dev options
pls I need help
Model : LLD-L21
OS : KangVIP Rom (EMUI 8.0.0)
Bootloader Status : Unlocked
In fastboot it says
Phone Unlocked
FRP Locked
did u try dload method?
yes I tried dload
It did not work
I can't upload zipI will send u the file to unlock frp or you can find that file in telegram group of our device
That wont work...
Go to terminal in root mode and do
Code:
Setprop sys.oem_unlock_allowed 1
Than you can change the value and its not longer greyed out.
Darkest-Dark said:
That wont work...
Go to terminal in root mode and do
Code:
Setprop sys.oem_unlock_allowed 1
Than you can change the value and its not longer greyed out.
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If that dosent work you can also follow the below procedure.
Relock your bootloader. Your phone will factory reset and boot. Then head to developer options and you will see oem unlock is not greyed out. Then just enable oem unlocking and unlock the bootloader. When you boot up again you will see that oem is greyed out but it'll be enabled. So you'll have unlocked fastboot and unlocked frp now.
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That wont work...
Go to terminal in root mode and do
If that dosent work you can also follow the below procedure.
Relock your bootloader. Your phone will factory reset and boot. Then head to developer options and you will see oem unlock is not greyed out. Then just enable oem unlocking and unlock the bootloader. When you boot up again you will see that oem is greyed out but it'll be enabled. So you'll have unlocked fastboot and unlocked frp now.
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This will just brick the device.
Fredin_ said:
If that dosent work you can also follow the below procedure.
Relock your bootloader. Your phone will factory reset and boot. .....<snip>.
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Never Ever a good idea to try and relock the bootloader.
viratbansal001 said:
This will just brick the device.
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Sparkrite said:
Never Ever a good idea to try and relock the bootloader.
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Umm why? Its working pretty fine for me. ?
Fredin_ said:
Umm why? Its working pretty fine for me.
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Have you Unlocked, Relocked and then Unlocked again ?
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Sparkrite said:
Have you Unlocked, Relocked and then Unlocked again ?
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I haven't gone that far. I've unlocked and then relocked.
Everything fine. I believe it's completely safe if you have complete stock firmware installed ie, stock rom, stock recovery, stock Kernal and all that stuff. Otherwise you'll end up in a loop. Guess I forgot that part sorry.
So I know this is someone else's thread but can you tell me if I relocked bootloader will the service center be able to know I'd unlocked before? I don't have the phone unlocked warning at boot. Just curious.
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I haven't gone that far. I've unlocked and then relocked.
Everything fine. I believe it's completely safe if you have complete stock firmware installed ie, stock rom, stock recovery, stock Kernal and all that stuff. Otherwise you'll end up in a loop. Guess I forgot that part sorry.
So I know this is someone else's thread but can you tell me if I relocked bootloader will the service center be able to know I'd unlocked before? I don't have the phone unlocked warning at boot. Just curious.
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Hey will it work if I have complete stock firmware like you said? I want to take my device to service centre but my bootloader is unlocked and I have L OS installed. Will relockeing bootloader get me back my waranty?
PS. I have already asked in question and answers section but no reply yet. ?I
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I haven't gone that far. I've unlocked and then relocked.
Everything fine. I believe it's completely safe if you have complete stock firmware installed ie, stock rom, stock recovery, stock Kernal and all that stuff. Otherwise you'll end up in a loop. Guess I forgot that part sorry.
So I know this is someone else's thread but can you tell me if I relocked bootloader will the service center be able to know I'd unlocked before? I don't have the phone unlocked warning at boot. Just curious.
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Some if not all bootloaders nowadays are not "locked" by the manufacturer using a code but are usually "locked" by employing a digital signature and/or a CID (carrier Id) hard coded into the OS. When we "unlock" a bootloader with a code we are simply using a routine written into the loader by the manufacturer to now ignore signatures and/or CIDs of the OS and this allows us to flash whatever we wish.
Sometimes upon unlocking using a code the DS/CID is erased/altered and cannot be retrieved, so not a good idea to relock an altered bootloader.
At least, that is my understanding of it.
Krazydon said:
Hey will it work if I have complete stock firmware like you said? I want to take my device to service centre but my bootloader is unlocked and I have L OS installed. Will relockeing bootloader get me back my waranty?
PS. I have already asked in question and answers section but no reply yet. I
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Sparkrite said:
Some if not all bootloaders nowadays are not "locked" by the manufacturer using a code but are usually "locked" by employing a digital signature and/or a CID (carrier Id) hard coded into the OS. When we "unlock" a bootloader with a code we are simply using a routine written into the loader by the manufacturer to now ignore signatures and/or CIDs of the OS and this allows us to flash whatever we wish.
Sometimes upon unlocking using a code the DS/CID is erased/altered and cannot be retrieved, so not a good idea to relock an altered bootloader.
At least, that is my understanding of it.
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That's too bad. Means we won't get back our waranty if we relock it ?. So thanks for the heads up . I'll be careful while unlocking it again (if ever).?
Fredin_ said:
That's too bad. Means we won't get back our waranty if we relock it . So thanks for the heads up . I'll be careful while unlocking it again (if ever).
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Not necessarily, I doubt if most service centres would bother delving that deep, but maybe some would.
I don't know...........
Sparkrite said:
Not necessarily, I doubt if most service centres would bother delving that deep, but maybe some would.
I don't know...........
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Thanks for your quick reply but do you know any way to get back CID/DS
No, but I haven't delved that deeply into Huaweis bootloaders, but I NEVER attempt to re-lock them.
Sparkrite said:
No, but I haven't delved that deeply into Huaweis bootloaders, but I NEVER attempt to re-lock them.
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Anyways thanks for your replies. Means a lot ?