How do i tell if my bootloader is unlocked or not?Its the tmobile version on at&t that I bought from google.
why would you buy the tmobile version to use on at&t?
because this was the only one that they offered at that time and there is no 3g hear in my home town
If you have an unlocked lock on bootup.
thanks dont see unlocked lock.i gess i will unlock and root
You don't need to unlock it to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
Yeah, I'd avoid unlocking the bootloader unless you absolutely want to. It's easy to root and then flash a custom recovery without unlocking.
why not unlock bootloader i have no warranty anymore?
IIRC out does void your warranty
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wildchild048 said:
why not unlock bootloader i have no warranty anymore?
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It voids your software warranty but not the hardware one, as far as I know. But it also has an "unlocked" logo during boot-up which might be discouraging to aesthetes.
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Im planning to buy an unlocked version on the nexus straight from Google.com. My question is since its going to be an unlocked version does it mean it will also have an unlocked bootloader?? I know I need to unlock the bootloader so I can root and eventually install ROMS. Also, is it true that IF i need to unlock the bootloader GOOGLE will void my warranty?
Help is appreciated.
daraj said:
Im planning to buy an unlocked version on the nexus straight from Google.com. My question is since its going to be an unlocked version does it mean it will also have an unlocked bootloader?? I know I need to unlock the bootloader so I can root and eventually install ROMS. Also, is it true that IF i need to unlock the bootloader GOOGLE will void my warranty?
Help is appreciated.
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The bootloader is not unlocked out of the box however once you have fastboot setup it's easily unlocked with one command while in the bootloader.
Yes. It voids your warranty.
uberingram said:
The bootloader is not unlocked out of the box however once you have fastboot setup it's easily unlocked with one command while in the bootloader.
Yes. It voids your warranty.
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So although its an unlocked version still the bootloader is locked? Maybe Im getting confused between an unlocked phone and an unlocked bootloader. No relation?
daraj said:
So although its an unlocked version still the bootloader is locked? Maybe Im getting confused between an unlocked phone and an unlocked bootloader. No relation?
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Unlocked phone = not SIM locked to any particular provider.
Unlocked bootloader = you can flash whatever software you like on the phone = void warranty.
packetlss said:
Unlocked phone = not SIM locked to any particular provider.
Unlocked bootloader = you can flash whatever software you like on the phone = void warranty.
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Great I guess that answers my questions. IS there a way to reverse it back to the Google locked boot-loader in case I need to return?
daraj said:
Great I guess that answers my questions. IS there a way to reverse it back to the Google locked boot-loader in case I need to return?
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At the moment, no.
this should amuse you...
the $530 "unlocked" phone from Google is Sim unlocked...but so is the $180 TMO phone from Google For kicks I put my ATT Sim in my friend's TMO N1 and as expected, it worked just fine on ATT.
Not sure why they are calling it unlocked since all being sold are unlocked (unless my friend magically received the wrong phone) but I guess if that helps move units...why not. Perhaps they mean you are not locked into any contracts by purchasing it
yea that's wat is meant....
Even the subsidized version from Tmobile is not sim locked. Same phone, just get it at a cheaper price.
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deprecate said:
this should amuse you...
the $530 "unlocked" phone from Google is Sim unlocked...but so is the $180 TMO phone from Google For kicks I put my ATT Sim in my friend's TMO N1 and as expected, it worked just fine on ATT.
Not sure why they are calling it unlocked since all being sold are unlocked (unless my friend magically received the wrong phone) but I guess if that helps move units...why not. Perhaps they mean you are not locked into any contracts by purchasing it
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The "version" you get for $180 is the exact same one you get with $530. No one ever said it was locked. What they are doing is for the $180 price, you are re-locking yourself into another 2 year contract with T-Mobile and getting the phone at a subsidized price.
Unlike the phone they sell in the stores, this will be SIM unlocked since it is NOT T-Mobile branded.
T-Mobile (as well as any other carrier) will see this as a "gray market" device and will not support it, although, they will allow it on their network.
Hope this clarification helps.
It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?
Paul22000 said:
It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?
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Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.
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Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.
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Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.
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Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.
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Yes, unlocking your bootloader = the ability to flash images to your Nexus One using fastboot. That's it.
What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?
brettbellaire said:
What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?
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I think you can just root then via SuperOneClick.
I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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You'd see a padlock icon at the bottom of the 'X' screen as you boot up if you are unlocked.
Thanks, so I'm locked.
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I was wandering if there is a way to relock the bootloader, so if my phone bricks, or presents any sort of problems in the future, i can still get the warranty support
If you request an unlock code from Motorola then no, even relocking won't help. If you unlock the bootloader on a non Developer Edition you void your warranty.
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Rhiannon224 said:
If you request an unlock code from Motorola then no, even relocking won't help. If you unlock the bootloader on a non Developer Edition you void your warranty.
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but what if i requested the code and didn't unlocked would it still voided my warranty?
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but what if i requested the code and didn't unlocked would it still voided my warranty?
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Yes, requesting the code voids the warranty.
****, now that everything its ****ed up, i might as well as unlocking this piece
Even if you do/can relock the bootloader it has a separate flag to indicate the warranty is void in the phone.
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****, now that everything its ****ed up, i might as well as unlocking this piece
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You didn't take 5 minutes and read that on the page you got the unlock code from? Wow
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Savassi12 said:
I was wandering if there is a way to relock the bootloader, so if my phone bricks, or presents any sort of problems in the future, i can still get the warranty support
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You can relock your bootloader by running fastboot oem lock but this would not restore your warranty. The phone would still show as re-locked instead of locked, so they would still know that it has been unlocked and re-locked. Afaik, it would also still show the Bootloader Unlocked Warning Message even if u re-lock it.
Steve-x said:
Yes, requesting the code voids the warranty.
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I don't think just requesting the code would void your warranty.
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Afaik, it would also still show the Bootloader Unlocked Warning Message even if u re-lock it.
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did you try that yourself? I am exchanging my moto x and i unlocked my bootloader. Im afraid that they wont take it
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did you try that yourself? I am exchanging my moto x and i unlocked my bootloader. Im afraid that they wont take it
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I haven't tried it myself, but i have read about people who have.
soo i havent unlocked yet, just requested the code, if i dont unlock, will i still get the warranty?
Savassi12 said:
soo i havent unlocked yet, just requested the code, if i dont unlock, will i still get the warranty?
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I think so...
mschumacher69 said:
I don't think just requesting the code would void your warranty.
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Simply requesting an unlock code will void your warranty.
See below.
c19932 said:
did you try that yourself? I am exchanging my moto x and i unlocked my bootloader. Im afraid that they wont take it
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Don't be surprised if/when they deny your request to exchange your phone.
Savassi12 said:
soo i havent unlocked yet, just requested the code, if i dont unlock, will i still get the warranty?
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I think so...
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Sorry, your warranty disappeared the moment you sent in the bootloader unlock code request.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
You have only yourself to blame. Once you get the unlock code, your device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty; in other words, please don't blame us if things go wrong, even if they appear unrelated to unlocking the bootloader.
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From the legal terms link:
5.The*following*applies*to*all*devices,*except*for*Developer*Edition devices:
Obtaining an unlock code voids all warranties.*Once*you*get*the*unlock*code your device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty,*or*any*other*warranty*provided with the device. Neither Motorola,*nor your wireless carrier shall*have*any*duty*to provide warranty or customer support for unlocked devices.
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mschumacher69 said:
You can relock your bootloader by running fastboot oem lock but this would not restore your warranty. The phone would still show as re-locked instead of locked, so they would still know that it has been unlocked and re-locked. Afaik, it would also still show the Bootloader Unlocked Warning Message even if u re-lock it.
I don't think just requesting the code would void your warranty.
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It does and it states that on Moto site when you request the code.
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You do not lose your warranty on these any more. Moto posted this in November.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/11/you-asked-we-listened-announcing.html
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You do not lose your warranty on these any more. Moto posted this in November.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/11/you-asked-we-listened-announcing.html
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This is just for Dev Editions.
Sorry. I am a VZW customer so when people talk about unlocked bootloaders I think dev edition.
Sorry for the question....i've an xt1052 with stock 4.4.4 and i would root it....i'd want know if there is a way to relock the bootloader and restore the warranty?
Even if you could, you still wouldn't get your warranty back. When you unlock your bootloader through moto's website, your IMEI is sent to them and they know that you've unlocked the BL and your warranty is now void.
Also, relocking the bootloader will give you a "relocked" status. Not locked. So they know anyway.
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Even if you could, you still wouldn't get your warranty back. When you unlock your bootloader through moto's website, your IMEI is sent to them and they know that you've unlocked the BL and your warranty is now void.
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If you purchased the developer edition, the warranty isn't voided by unlocking...
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If you purchased the developer edition, the warranty isn't voided by unlocking...
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The xt1052 isn't the developer edition.
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interista4e said:
Sorry for the question....i've an xt1052 with stock 4.4.4 and i would root it....i'd want know if there is a way to relock the bootloader and restore the warranty?
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There are 3 states for the Moto X bootloader.
1. Locked Status Code 0 (as it ships from the factory)
2. Unlocked Status Code 3 (when the bootloader is unlocked)
3. Locked Status Code 2 (aka RELOCKED, after you use fastboot oem lock)
If the status is Unlocked or Relocked, you'll get the unlocked bootloader warning at boot up. And we do not have a way to toggle back to LOCKED Status Code: 0.
No matter how you unlock your bootloader (Moto Web site, China Middleman, Sunshine app), if your status code is 3 or 2 (unlocked or relocked), then your warranty is void should Moto or your warranty provider see it.
If you got your bootloader unlock code from Moto's web site directly, the official way to unlock, then they likely also have record in their database that your warranty is void.
Some states or countries may have laws that prevent denying the warranty coverage when the claimed failure is not related to unlocking the bootloader (like micro usb port no longer works to charge.)
And for others who may come across this thread... Unlocking the bootloader on a real Dev Edition X does NOT void the warranty. The OP has an XT1052 which is likely a European X, and is not a Dev Edition.
Thanks for the informations :good:
This is really lame from Motorola, I come from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus where this didn't happen..
sui785 said:
This is really lame from Motorola, I come from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus where this didn't happen..
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The X is no Nexus, nor was it supposed to be.
All current "non-Nexus" Samsung phones have a Knox Warranty flag.
Hello there, I was just wondering if anyone returned their Asus Rog Phone 2 for repair or simply returned it after relocking the bootloader.
On XDA there is a great guide on locking the bootloader here https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone-2/how-to/guide-convert-cn-to-ww-rom-26-08-t3961042http://
So would be interesting to see if locking the bootloader is all we need to peacefully rma the phone or does asus have some other sneaky peaky something going on to detect if we ever rooted.
I am perfectly happy with my phone its just some people on my youtube channel were asking if its safe to return after relocking I just said I haven't heard of anyone doing so, so not 100% sure.
Terminal_Heat_Sink said:
Hello there, I was just wondering if anyone returned their Asus Rog Phone 2 for repair or simply returned it after relocking the bootloader.
On XDA there is a great guide on locking the bootloader here https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone-2/how-to/guide-convert-cn-to-ww-rom-26-08-t3961042http://
So would be interesting to see if locking the bootloader is all we need to peacefully rma the phone or does asus have some other sneaky peaky something going on to detect if we ever rooted.
I am perfectly happy with my phone its just some people on my youtube channel were asking if its safe to return after relocking I just said I haven't heard of anyone doing so, so not 100% sure.
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Most Android devices have a record in system chip. Once bootloader has been unlocked it will change status from 0 to 1 and even if you relock the device it will still stay as 1. Since you triggered the log thingy. So Asus techs will still be able to find out that bootloader has been touched. For example on Samsung devices they use something called a KNOX chip and when you unlock bootloader on a Samsung S9 or s10 the Knox chip will break and no longer work and status will say that Knox chip has been triggered with 0 to 1. That's how Samsung finds out if you have unlocked your bootloader on their devices. So Asus have probably a way aswell on their end.
You can return the device for repair but repair service will reject warranty repair and will put a price how much it will cost you to repair the device. Since they will see bootloader has been touched. So then warranty is voided.
I returned my 1st one because of no volte. Bl was unlocked, relocked using asus's app before the tool here was available. No issues, got a full refund.
I doubt they wouldn't repair it under warranty, unless it was actually caused by a bad flash, or something.
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I returned my 1st one because of no volte. Bl was unlocked, relocked using asus's app before the tool here was available. No issues, got a full refund.
I doubt they wouldn't repair it under warranty, unless it was actually caused by a bad flash, or something.
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What Asus app did you use to relock the bootloader? I thought the only way to relock is to use a fastboot command. Asus has an apk for unlocking the phone, haven't heard of one for relocking.
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What Asus app did you use to relock the bootloader? I thought the only way to relock is to use a fastboot command. Asus has an apk for unlocking the phone, haven't heard of one for relocking.
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Sorry, i used app to unlock, and used fastboot to lock
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Sorry, i used app to unlock, and used fastboot to lock
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Ah OK no worries. At least now we know that people can safely return or repair their phones if they relocked the bootloader properly. Thanks for responding.
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Ah OK no worries. At least now we know that people can safely return or repair their phones if they relocked the bootloader properly. Thanks for responding.
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Afaik in EU they cant refuse repairing faulty hardware because you tried a software mod.