Sorry for the question....i've an xt1052 with stock 4.4.4 and i would root it....i'd want know if there is a way to relock the bootloader and restore the warranty?
Even if you could, you still wouldn't get your warranty back. When you unlock your bootloader through moto's website, your IMEI is sent to them and they know that you've unlocked the BL and your warranty is now void.
Also, relocking the bootloader will give you a "relocked" status. Not locked. So they know anyway.
mauri6870 said:
Even if you could, you still wouldn't get your warranty back. When you unlock your bootloader through moto's website, your IMEI is sent to them and they know that you've unlocked the BL and your warranty is now void.
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If you purchased the developer edition, the warranty isn't voided by unlocking...
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If you purchased the developer edition, the warranty isn't voided by unlocking...
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The xt1052 isn't the developer edition.
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interista4e said:
Sorry for the question....i've an xt1052 with stock 4.4.4 and i would root it....i'd want know if there is a way to relock the bootloader and restore the warranty?
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There are 3 states for the Moto X bootloader.
1. Locked Status Code 0 (as it ships from the factory)
2. Unlocked Status Code 3 (when the bootloader is unlocked)
3. Locked Status Code 2 (aka RELOCKED, after you use fastboot oem lock)
If the status is Unlocked or Relocked, you'll get the unlocked bootloader warning at boot up. And we do not have a way to toggle back to LOCKED Status Code: 0.
No matter how you unlock your bootloader (Moto Web site, China Middleman, Sunshine app), if your status code is 3 or 2 (unlocked or relocked), then your warranty is void should Moto or your warranty provider see it.
If you got your bootloader unlock code from Moto's web site directly, the official way to unlock, then they likely also have record in their database that your warranty is void.
Some states or countries may have laws that prevent denying the warranty coverage when the claimed failure is not related to unlocking the bootloader (like micro usb port no longer works to charge.)
And for others who may come across this thread... Unlocking the bootloader on a real Dev Edition X does NOT void the warranty. The OP has an XT1052 which is likely a European X, and is not a Dev Edition.
Thanks for the informations :good:
This is really lame from Motorola, I come from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus where this didn't happen..
sui785 said:
This is really lame from Motorola, I come from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus where this didn't happen..
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The X is no Nexus, nor was it supposed to be.
All current "non-Nexus" Samsung phones have a Knox Warranty flag.
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How do i tell if my bootloader is unlocked or not?Its the tmobile version on at&t that I bought from google.
why would you buy the tmobile version to use on at&t?
because this was the only one that they offered at that time and there is no 3g hear in my home town
If you have an unlocked lock on bootup.
thanks dont see unlocked lock.i gess i will unlock and root
You don't need to unlock it to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
Yeah, I'd avoid unlocking the bootloader unless you absolutely want to. It's easy to root and then flash a custom recovery without unlocking.
why not unlock bootloader i have no warranty anymore?
IIRC out does void your warranty
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wildchild048 said:
why not unlock bootloader i have no warranty anymore?
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It voids your software warranty but not the hardware one, as far as I know. But it also has an "unlocked" logo during boot-up which might be discouraging to aesthetes.
I was wandering if there is a way to relock the bootloader, so if my phone bricks, or presents any sort of problems in the future, i can still get the warranty support
If you request an unlock code from Motorola then no, even relocking won't help. If you unlock the bootloader on a non Developer Edition you void your warranty.
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Rhiannon224 said:
If you request an unlock code from Motorola then no, even relocking won't help. If you unlock the bootloader on a non Developer Edition you void your warranty.
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but what if i requested the code and didn't unlocked would it still voided my warranty?
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but what if i requested the code and didn't unlocked would it still voided my warranty?
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Yes, requesting the code voids the warranty.
****, now that everything its ****ed up, i might as well as unlocking this piece
Even if you do/can relock the bootloader it has a separate flag to indicate the warranty is void in the phone.
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****, now that everything its ****ed up, i might as well as unlocking this piece
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You didn't take 5 minutes and read that on the page you got the unlock code from? Wow
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Savassi12 said:
I was wandering if there is a way to relock the bootloader, so if my phone bricks, or presents any sort of problems in the future, i can still get the warranty support
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You can relock your bootloader by running fastboot oem lock but this would not restore your warranty. The phone would still show as re-locked instead of locked, so they would still know that it has been unlocked and re-locked. Afaik, it would also still show the Bootloader Unlocked Warning Message even if u re-lock it.
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Yes, requesting the code voids the warranty.
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I don't think just requesting the code would void your warranty.
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Afaik, it would also still show the Bootloader Unlocked Warning Message even if u re-lock it.
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did you try that yourself? I am exchanging my moto x and i unlocked my bootloader. Im afraid that they wont take it
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did you try that yourself? I am exchanging my moto x and i unlocked my bootloader. Im afraid that they wont take it
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I haven't tried it myself, but i have read about people who have.
soo i havent unlocked yet, just requested the code, if i dont unlock, will i still get the warranty?
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soo i havent unlocked yet, just requested the code, if i dont unlock, will i still get the warranty?
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I think so...
mschumacher69 said:
I don't think just requesting the code would void your warranty.
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Simply requesting an unlock code will void your warranty.
See below.
c19932 said:
did you try that yourself? I am exchanging my moto x and i unlocked my bootloader. Im afraid that they wont take it
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Don't be surprised if/when they deny your request to exchange your phone.
Savassi12 said:
soo i havent unlocked yet, just requested the code, if i dont unlock, will i still get the warranty?
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I think so...
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Sorry, your warranty disappeared the moment you sent in the bootloader unlock code request.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
You have only yourself to blame. Once you get the unlock code, your device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty; in other words, please don't blame us if things go wrong, even if they appear unrelated to unlocking the bootloader.
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From the legal terms link:
5.The*following*applies*to*all*devices,*except*for*Developer*Edition devices:
Obtaining an unlock code voids all warranties.*Once*you*get*the*unlock*code your device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty,*or*any*other*warranty*provided with the device. Neither Motorola,*nor your wireless carrier shall*have*any*duty*to provide warranty or customer support for unlocked devices.
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You can relock your bootloader by running fastboot oem lock but this would not restore your warranty. The phone would still show as re-locked instead of locked, so they would still know that it has been unlocked and re-locked. Afaik, it would also still show the Bootloader Unlocked Warning Message even if u re-lock it.
I don't think just requesting the code would void your warranty.
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It does and it states that on Moto site when you request the code.
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You do not lose your warranty on these any more. Moto posted this in November.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/11/you-asked-we-listened-announcing.html
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You do not lose your warranty on these any more. Moto posted this in November.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/11/you-asked-we-listened-announcing.html
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This is just for Dev Editions.
Sorry. I am a VZW customer so when people talk about unlocked bootloaders I think dev edition.
someone told me it is possible to jtag my moto x runnong 4.4.2 in order to make it a dev edition , but said tht after i would not recevie any updtae which is fine ............is this possible and if so could someone direct me on how to or refer me to site tht tells me how
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someone told me it is possible to jtag my moto x runnong 4.4.2 in order to make it a dev edition , but said tht after i would not recevie any updtae which is fine ............is this possible and if so could someone direct me on how to or refer me to site tht tells me how
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I have not heard of that.
Besides the physical appearance, when it comes to the difference between the "Developer Edition" and Retail or Moto Maker edition, the only difference is unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't void the warranty, but on the "non-Dev" it does void the warranty.
For the most part, Motorola gives the bootloader unlock code away for free on their web site, along with the instructions to unlock. The exception being in the case of a few carriers like ATT, Verizon and Republic Wireless, where for what appears to be carrier requirements, they do NOT give out the code.
If you have ATT, VZW or Republic Wireless, and have an X built in 2014, see the China Middle Man is back thread in the general section about getting a bootloader unlock code from the only way possible at this time. But yes, it does void the warranty
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I have not heard of that.
Besides the physical appearance, when it comes to the difference between the "Developer Edition" and Retail or Moto Maker edition, the only difference is unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't void the warranty, but on the "non-Dev" it does void the warranty.
For the most part, Motorola gives the bootloader unlock code away for free on their web site, along with the instructions to unlock. The exception being in the case of a few carriers like ATT, Verizon and Republic Wireless, where for what appears to be carrier requirements, they do NOT give out the code.
If you have ATT, VZW or Republic Wireless, and have an X built in 2014, see the China Middle Man is back thread in the general section about getting a bootloader unlock code from the only way possible at this time. But yes, it does void the warranty
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thank you for your response I do know that the unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty but again I ask is there any way to JTAG in order to unlock for att or verizonhas anyone looked into that and how reliable are the Chinese middleman for unlocking the bootloader
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thank you for your response I do know that the unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty but again I ask is there any way to JTAG in order to unlock for att or verizonhas anyone looked into that and how reliable are the Chinese middleman for unlocking the bootloader
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I have seen NOTHING on using JTAG to unlock the bootloader on the Moto X.
Since its release, the only way to UNLOCK the Bootloader on the X has been to get the unlock code.
How reliable is the middle man? Just read that thread. If the build date on your phone is 2014, you will likely be able to get a code. The middle man doesn't have "real time access" to the database containing the unlock codes, so if your phone was built a week ago, you might have to wait. As long as you meet those conditions, you'll likely get your code. In cases where the middle man didn't have the code, he's refunded the money.
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
hawkdown77 said:
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
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Nope. Not if the bootloader is unlocked...
Good Luck
hawkdown77 said:
Hi...someone can help me?
I have bootloader unlocked and root. If.i do update for 4.4.3 version i lost root??
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You might, but with an unlocked bootlaoder you can easily re-root at any time.
I'm going to return my dev edition moto x. Do I have to go through the process of relocking the boot loader or will they accept the return with the boot loader unlocked? I'm curious if anyone has tried this?
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I'm going to return my dev edition moto x. Do I have to go through the process of relocking the boot loader or will they accept the return with the boot loader unlocked? I'm curious if anyone has tried this?
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Re-Locking the BL won't do any good. They will know without a doubt that you had unlocked previously, since once re-locked, the status can never be changed back to "LOCKED", but only "RE-LOCKED".
Word is that they will honor the warranty on the DEV edition regardless of whether or not you have unlocked.
Additionally, some individuals have reported that Moto honored the warranty on their *non-DEV* editions, even though they unlocked the BL - even though the terms seem to suggest this voids your warranty. I'm certainly not saying that they absolutley will honor it for a non-DEV edition, but the word is that they are honoring the warranty anyways.
The documentation seems to suggest that unlocking an actual DEV edition does not affect the warranty process whatsoever.
Good Luck :good:
I appreciate the reply. I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
Moto's policy for Developer Editions is... Unlocking the bootloader does NOT void the warranty. So there should be no fear of returning it unlocked.
I would just make sure you have flashed to a stock rom and factory reset the device to ensure its a hardware problem before you send it.
Hi guys i have the dev edition moto x. I rooted it and unlocked the bootlaoder, because i wanted to try out custom roms. i amtr now trying to put the phone back to stock. I followed the guide and i got the stock image back on the phone, but for some odd reason the bootloader wont get locked. I get sst lock failure in the command window. I need to send this phone back. any advice?
It's impossible to lock it again. If you have the pure edition you didn't lose your warranty anyway so don't worry.
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AGISCI said:
It's impossible to lock it again. If you have the pure edition you didn't lose your warranty anyway so don't worry.
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You can relock your bootloader.
flameinthefire said:
Hi guys i have the dev edition moto x. I rooted it and unlocked the bootlaoder, because i wanted to try out custom roms. i amtr now trying to put the phone back to stock. I followed the guide and i got the stock image back on the phone, but for some odd reason the bootloader wont get locked. I get sst lock failure in the command window. I need to send this phone back. any advice?
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Always read and read some more before you take someone's word.
Straight from the horses mouth.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91987/p/1449,8620
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You can relock your bootloader.
Always read and read some more before you take someone's word.
Straight from the horses mouth.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91987/p/1449,8620
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Actually that does NOT put it back to locked. There are 3 bootloader states:
Locked
Unlocked
Relocked
Once you unlock it, it is impossible to go back to locked. He can only change it to "relocked" which anyone can see that it has been unlocked before. Try searching the forums more and you will see what I mean.
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Actually that does NOT put it back to locked. There are 3 bootloader states:
Locked
Unlocked
Relocked
Once you unlock it, it is impossible to go back to locked. He can only change it to "relocked" which anyone can see that it has been unlocked before. Try searching the forums more and you will see what I mean.
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Relocked would be re-(LOCKED)
hence it is locked. Meaning that you can only flash signed images. You are right in the fact that people can see that it has be unlocked before. But when its relocked the bootloader is still locked.
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Relocked would be re-(LOCKED)
hence it is locked. Meaning that you can only flash signed images. You are right in the fact that people can see that it has be unlocked before. But when its relocked the bootloader is still locked.
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... For warranty purposes "relocked" does not help. With relocked they WILL know that he unlocked it.
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For warranty purposes it does not matter when you have the pure edition. They have already said that its still covered under warranty.
In the first post he says he wants to lock it to send it back, but the point is that it does not matter and that they will know anyway.
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In the first post he says he wants to lock it to send it back, but the point is that it does not matter and that they will know anyway.
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Even if he never unlocked they would assume it has been unlocked anyway and if unlocking a Pure Edition would void the warranty (which it apparently doesn't) his warranty would already be void. When you put your ID string into the website to get the unlock code it very clearly tells you that once you click continue they update the device as unlocked in their records whether you actually unlock it or not because you asked them for the unlock code.
Well if he has dev edition moto x instead of pure edition then he probably needs to search OG moto x thread not the 2014 moto x
This is all irrelevant. Unlocking the bootloader on an XT1095 will not void the warranty per Motorola's website. Also per their website....requesting and have the unlock code for your device sent to you is the same as actually unlocking the device. In other words, they know what devices they sent out unlock codes for and as soon as they send that code they then assume that it was used and the device was unlocked. It does not matter if you decide not to use the code, if they sent it, then they consider it used on the device. They caution about that in the verbage that they want you to read before requesting the code. That of course does not apply to the Pure Edition (XT1095) since they consider that model a developers edition. So unless you have somehow damaged the device and it will no longer work properly, it really does not matter if the bootloader is unlocked or locked.