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Wait for Froyo or root now?

Hi all. I've had my Nexus for about three weeks now, and while I originally bought it for Froyo, I'm getting impatient and have the urge to root and try ROMs like CM and Modaco.
Should I wait or just root and do it?
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i rooted mine yesterday and only had it for 4 days.... havent even gotten the bill yet.... i bought it to hack

Even if you root you can still install Froyo. Its not like you're losing the ability to install Froyo by rooting. Actually, you don't even have to root to install Froyo now irrc..

I say go for it.
Then again, I'm a bad influence, and have a reputation for voiding warranties.
I rooted my phone within the first hour I had it - haven't looked back

Even if you root you can still install Froyo. Its not like you're losing the ability to install Froyo by rooting. Actually, you don't even have to root to install Froyo now irrc..
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I have an AT&T Nexus One so I can't flash Froyo without root.
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I say go for it.
Then again, I'm a bad influence, and have a reputation for voiding warranties.
I rooted my phone within the first hour I had it - haven't looked back
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My phone looks to be fine. No screen, wifi, or any sort of issues. But I've read that HTC still fixes unlocked phones (at least sometimes). I'm just afraid of paying $530 for this thing and then bricking it. Haha.
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tjsimmons said:
My phone looks to be fine. No screen, wifi, or any sort of issues. But I've read that HTC still fixes unlocked phones (at least sometimes). I'm just afraid of paying $530 for this thing and then bricking it. Haha.
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There is no chance of bricking it unless you update the radio. You won't have to update the radio to flash most 2.1 ROMs.... you will have to when you upgrade to Froyo. Might as well go ahead and screw around on 2.1 for now

tjsimmons said:
My phone looks to be fine. No screen, wifi, or any sort of issues. But I've read that HTC still fixes unlocked phones (at least sometimes). I'm just afraid of paying $530 for this thing and then bricking it. Haha.
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I recently sent my phone in rooted for repair and htc didn't mind.
got it back a couple days later but it was locked again.

There is no chance of bricking it unless you update the radio. You won't have to update the radio to flash most 2.1 ROMs.... you will have to when you upgrade to Froyo. Might as well go ahead and screw around on 2.1 for now
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Hmm. I'll have to look at some of the ROMs then and see what I like.
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Does anyone else appreciate the irony of someone asking XDA if they should root?
It's like asking a kleptomaniac if you should shoplift.

I didn't root for 3 months until last week when I finally rooted. With froyo so close I thought about waiting. But once I rooted its now obvious that rooting is the way to go. Don't even worry about the official update coming. Just root it and you will have the official update earlier than if you don't root. Plus cyanogen is such a great ROM and totally worth it.

Okay so, I'm going to root and look at flashing some ROMs. Any guides out there? I see the sticky in General for Sense UI, but I'm not terribly sure if that's what I should follow or what.
Thanks!

Edit: started new thread.

just a quick question to you topic creator..im very new to rooting and flashing roms myself may i ask what guide you used to lear to do it?

mykeldrip said:
just a quick question to you topic creator..im very new to rooting and flashing roms myself may i ask what guide you used to lear to do it?
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In General Paul posted a guide from stock N1 to Sense UI/CM (it's a sticky). I just went down that and it worked great.

codesplice said:
It's like asking a kleptomaniac if you should shoplift.
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Hey it's not like we do it because we want to, we have to!

Lmao, sooooo true

Froyo ?

Ok ive been poking around and from what i can tell there is a 2.2 out for the I9000 but not for the captivate yet ? Am i correct? I want to upgrade but i had such a hard time going to JH7. My OTA failed had to use a stock rom Design Gears posted ..ect ect. Guess im just trying gauge if this is the time to go for 2.2 or wait a bit from something just for captivate. thanks.

gremmie said:
Ok ive been poking around and from what i can tell there is a 2.2 out for the I9000 but not for the captivate yet ? Am i correct? I want to upgrade but i had such a hard time going to JH7. My OTA failed had to use a stock rom Design Gears posted ..ect ect. Guess im just trying gauge if this is the time to go for 2.2 or wait a bit from something just for captivate. thanks.
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Info is in the development forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
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Go directly: http://www.ponack.net/designgears/index.html

gremmie said:
Ok ive been poking around and from what i can tell there is a 2.2 out for the I9000 but not for the captivate yet ? Am i correct? I want to upgrade but i had such a hard time going to JH7. My OTA failed had to use a stock rom Design Gears posted ..ect ect. Guess im just trying gauge if this is the time to go for 2.2 or wait a bit from something just for captivate. thanks.
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There is no official release for Froyo for any of the Galaxy S phones. Design Gears posted a Beta, and Cognition is based on that. It is stable, but there are some bugs.
All Samsung owners are waiting on an official galaxy S announcement.

thanks I think ill hold on a bit

Should I flash my phone or wait for ATT froyo?

So basically I have a couple questions before flashing my phone to Serendipity 4.3
1. If I flash can I ever go back to "real stock"?
2. Since froyo is not out for the captivate. I was wondering if the 2.2 roms were real froyo roms? (Like the Serendipity 4.3)
3. Since froyo is coming out soon, should I just wait for the ATT version of froyo?
4. If I do flash, can I get the ATT version of froyo? (when it comes out)
Thanks for reading

Yes
Yes
No
And doesn't exist yet
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Thanks for the fast reply. but for my 4th question i mean when ATT does release froyo can i use it?

rayoubi said:
Thanks for the fast reply. but for my 4th question i mean when ATT does release froyo can i use it?
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Yes of course, all you'll have to do is an update through kies once you flash back to stock when it comes out.

rayoubi said:
Thanks for the fast reply. but for my 4th question i mean when ATT does release froyo can i use it?
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You won't want to.

^^
He's right.

I wouldn't wait for AT&T, it could be a long time before they release anything. Happy flashing!!

MikeyMike01 said:
You won't want to.
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So true...

Waiting for AT&T Froyo is like waiting to win the lottery...
As the rest have said, FLASH AWAY! Once you start, you'll see how addictive it really is. Try them all. They all have thier own pro's and con's

I sucessfully flashed my phone! I love my phone now, geezes I dont know why i waited sooooo long.
Thanks every1!

Probably going to flash a custom ROM (phoenix 4.1) for the first time this weekend. I currently have the AT&T 2.2 beta flashed from a one-click, but have never gone through the whole process. I have a couple questions.
1. Is the phoenix install instructions on the first page of the discussion in the development section complete? I was browsing through the discussion and some folks said there were some apps missing, like the music player (not that I used the stock one).
2. there are patches listed and it doesn't really say how to apply them. any guidance? rather than page through 700+ pages, is there a summary on how?
3. is there a lagfix in the Phoenix ROM or is it needed for 2.2.1 ROMs at all?

rayoubi said:
I sucessfully flashed my phone! I love my phone now, geezes I dont know why i waited sooooo long.
Thanks every1!
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that was my first reaction too when I finally got around to flashing roms

gokartracer5 said:
Probably going to flash a custom ROM (phoenix 4.1) for the first time this weekend. I currently have the AT&T 2.2 beta flashed from a one-click, but have never gone through the whole process. I have a couple questions.
1. Is the phoenix install instructions on the first page of the discussion in the development section complete? I was browsing through the discussion and some folks said there were some apps missing, like the music player (not that I used the stock one).
2. there are patches listed and it doesn't really say how to apply them. any guidance? rather than page through 700+ pages, is there a summary on how?
3. is there a lagfix in the Phoenix ROM or is it needed for 2.2.1 ROMs at all?
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Each rom is done to the Dev's way so yes some remove some apps that they deem junk. Like all the att crapware that is installed. All the fixes are clockwork flashable that I know of. Most were for older versions of the rom. IF you follow the directions in the FAQ you will be fine, Just make sure then after you flash back to stock that you can get into recovery and DL mode with the 3 button combos just in case something goes wrong

cool thanks. looking forward to it.

Did u have to root first? I want to update to 2.2 i rooted yesterday and now im not sure what to do.
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GrapePopRocks said:
Did u have to root first? I want to update to 2.2 i rooted yesterday and now im not sure what to do.
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Yes you need to be rooted.

shawn122 said:
Yes you need to be rooted.
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Thank you where do i go for the update and instructions? Ive seen different videos so Id like to b sure im doin it rite
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2.2 update ever?

Hey,
So I'm a CDMA man myself (EVO running cm7) but my girlfriend has a Captivate and really really really wants flash. I told her the only way to get flash is to root and get 2.2 but she WILL NOT let me root her phone. Apparently she doesn't trust me that much.
Anyway I've googled this junk 13411523541324 times and nothing seems to come up. I know Samsung pulled the initial 2.2 update but is an official one even in the works? I can't find any news on it.
Thanks for anyone who responds.

I'm running Andromeda myself, but I did update my wife's phone to the official 2.2 thru Kies Mini.

Download Kies Mini. And run the update. It's the Official 2.2 update for the Captivate.

tubazeppelin said:
I know Samsung pulled the initial 2.2 update but is an official one even in the works? I can't find any news on it.
Thanks for anyone who responds.
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You know it's been pulled but you can't find any news on it.

tubazeppelin said:
Hey,
So I'm a CDMA man myself (EVO running cm7) but my girlfriend has a Captivate and really really really wants flash. I told her the only way to get flash is to root and get 2.2 but she WILL NOT let me root her phone. Apparently she doesn't trust me that much.
Anyway I've googled this junk 13411523541324 times and nothing seems to come up. I know Samsung pulled the initial 2.2 update but is an official one even in the works? I can't find any news on it.
Thanks for anyone who responds.
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just download kies mini and it will do rest itself..ofcourse u have to click on update and next buttons

Thanks everyone!
Yeah, I couldn't find anything until I googled Kies Mini, then 304982374012983741093481723409182735 things came up. Girlfriend says she's pleased that she will soon be able to play flash games while she's at work. Woo hoo!

tubazeppelin said:
Hey,
So I'm a CDMA man myself (EVO running cm7) but my girlfriend has a Captivate and really really really wants flash. I told her the only way to get flash is to root and get 2.2 but she WILL NOT let me root her phone. Apparently she doesn't trust me that much.
Anyway I've googled this junk 13411523541324 times and nothing seems to come up. I know Samsung pulled the initial 2.2 update but is an official one even in the works? I can't find any news on it.
Thanks for anyone who responds.
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*edit* woops, sorry didn't see your latest post making mine irrelevant.

tubazeppelin said:
Hey,
So I'm a CDMA man myself (EVO running cm7) but my girlfriend has a Captivate and really really really wants flash. I told her the only way to get flash is to root and get 2.2 but she WILL NOT let me root her phone. Apparently she doesn't trust me that much.
Anyway I've googled this junk 13411523541324 times and nothing seems to come up. I know Samsung pulled the initial 2.2 update but is an official one even in the works? I can't find any news on it.
Thanks for anyone who responds.
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you can flash to other roms WITHOUT rooting fyi. CWM ftw.

Pvster said:
you can flash to other roms WITHOUT rooting fyi. CWM ftw.
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Yeah, but you forgotten some/most ROMs come pre-rooted. I doubt that his wife wants that.

mbudden said:
Yeah, but you forgotten some/most ROMs come pre-rooted. I doubt that his wife wants that.
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Not my wife but just about. And yeah, explaining to her what the Superuser App is would be tricky without giving away the fact that she's rooted.
She just doesn't want me to mess up her phone like I have messed up phones in the past (though I've NEVER bricked a device I have had some close calls with erasing recoveries and whatnot). If she sees an update come straight from Samsung she's more inclined to do it.
Still, she's constantly seeing all the awesome features I get from all my custom ROMs and is like "I WANT THAT" so I'm like "WELL YOU GOTTA ROOT" and then she puts her foot down. Maybe one of these days...

yeah you are kinda stuck if she wants to flash but doesnt want to be rooted.
2.2 official does have benifits and is worth doing if you are going to stay official, but if you are going to flash custom roms 2.2 will add 3e recovery and a few extra steps to then get to custom. going to custom roms is easiet from 2.1

[q] whats next best step after rooted 2.2 froyo.ucji6,to make faster??

I've tried a lagfix but wasnt that much improvement..i need something reliable and fast! Please! I know to get rid of bloat etc etc.... I need to know which rom is best? Cognition?? If so, which one? My phone is back to basic superoneclick root w/ non market apps enabled. Havent gone any further this time cause i would like to see what people have to say.... Ive searched and searched but seems like i need it all in one place w/ updated info?? Any help would be greatly appreciated..... Thanks.

regan0314 said:
I've tried a lagfix but wasnt that much improvement..i need something reliable and fast! Please! I know to get rid of bloat etc etc.... I need to know which rom is best? Cognition?? If so, which one? My phone is back to basic superoneclick root w/ non market apps enabled. Havent gone any further this time cause i would like to see what people have to say.... Ive searched and searched but seems like i need it all in one place w/ updated info?? Any help would be greatly appreciated..... Thanks.
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Oh boy.... Another one of these threads.
Short answer.... PICK one, they are all better than stock. There are so many roms out there that only YOU can judge what you want and need in a rom.
Everyone will have a different answer for you. For instance I say Firefly, but only because it works for me
You can't go wrong choosing any of them.

+100000000000000
Anything other than JI6, that leaky rom is junk.
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.

cappysw10 said:
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Anything other than JI6, that leaky rom is junk.
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
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All i got for ya buddy is ur logo aint lyin .. at all!! regret the day i ever switched to att!!

nickm50 said:
Oh boy.... Another one of these threads.
Short answer.... PICK one, they are all better than stock. There are so many roms out there that only YOU can judge what you want and need in a rom.
Everyone will have a different answer for you. For instance I say Firefly, but only because it works for me
You can't go wrong choosing any of them.
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well I am looking for suggestions on which rom might be best suited for my phone and my only criteria really is thats its fast and reliable. So basically Im just askin if you had to pick one for me what would it be?

regan0314 said:
well I am looking for suggestions on which rom might be best suited for my phone and my only criteria really is thats its fast and reliable. So basically Im just askin if you had to pick one for me what would it be?
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That is unanswerable every single phone is different, and people have widely different tastes. The trick is finding a rom that works best FOR YOU.

studacris said:
That is unanswerable every single phone is different, and people have widely different tastes. The trick is finding a rom that works best FOR YOU.
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dude, youre takin this a little too seriously, im just lookin for a good suggestion to start with, and i know every phone is different, thats why i put what phone i have. thanks

LMAO........
The suggestions are to try them out yourself........
They are all better than stock........
You have to figure it out for yourself..........
And he meant that every Captivate is different.......If you did some more reading...you would know what he meant........
The "all in one place" is the first 3 pages of the dev section........http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=706 any thread that starts with [ROM] is what your looking at

if you want a fast rom i would recommend the cyanogen mod 7.
people talk about how its unstable and has bad battery life
but its all wrong,,,
from my experience cm7 has been a stable like all the other roms but just faster..
It's the fastest you'll ever get right now and it has all different customization you can do.
so try it out.

Might want to try cm6 its outdated but fast and more reliable
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ok soooo this is super annoying now...
I have tried every tutorial I can find for flashing roms to my captivate, every one still gives me the write error after reinstall packages. I have tried changing every setting i can think of.... someone please help!! very frustrated at this point
heres all my phone info:
att captivate sgh-I897
android 2.2
kernal: 2.6.32.9 jetaek.le[email protected] #1
build: froyo.UCJI6
as of right now i have it rooted via newest version of superoneclick.

Are you trying to get CWM on the phone?
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nickm50 said:
Are you trying to get CWM on the phone?
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ya, any file i put on the root of the phone gives me the same answer, whether its cwm or update.zip

You have 3E recovery.
The easiest way to get around it is to Flash the .tar version of speedmod with the full version of odin.
This only works on 2.2 If you need any more help. I will be around for a bit.

nickm50 said:
You have 3E recovery.
The easiest way to get around it is to Flash the .tar version of speedmod with the full version of odin.
This only works on 2.2 If you need any more help. I will be around for a bit.
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good answer! but if you are on 2.1 you can put the new rom on the sd card first and then flash speedmod. it wont boot into the rom but will give you recovery to flash the new rom.
yes, no need to root just odin flash speedmod then flash a rom.
if you want complete and reliable and well polished then flash andromeda, it's a bit older version of 2.2 but the work was great.
if you want super fast flash something that says js8, i hear the paragon rom has a great kernel. id say cm7 but maybe you should work up to that, it isn't hard but you need odin to flash back if you have problems, there aren't any 2.2 kernels or roms with the proper update script and binary to be flashed from the recovery that cm7 uses.

Dani897 said:
but if you are on 2.1 you can put the new rom on the sd card first and then flash speedmod. it wont boot into the rom but will give you recovery to flash the new rom.
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Nice. That makes sense that it will work.

OCLF (one click lagfix) use ext2. Titanium or some system app remover app to get rid of bloat and you should be good to go. At the end of the day different ROMs and such are for asthetics... no one has over 340 mg of Ram available so performance not much different from one to the next once lagfix installed. Until you OC/UV and that is tuff to maintain stability with.

Now we all know that there are no "Best Rom" threads but sense this one has changed course ill leave it open.
Each rom runs differently for each person. This is due to the many different ways we each use our phones. Once you get the hang of it, try out a few and find your favorite. Good luck on your quest.
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Ok so i finally got it to work, i used this application for my pc and it did the trick... it was called something like AIC tools?? Forget the name exactly, T work so cant see it right now. But it was awesome, if anyone needs to know what its called lemme know and ill post it when i get home. Im trying cognition 4.3 right now.
Have a small problem tho if anyone can help that be great,
Basically, my home button goes nuts every once in a while and acts as if its bein pressed a bunch of times when my fingers are nowhere near it.... weird... does a ghost come with cognition?? Lol
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regan0314 said:
Ok so i finally got it to work, i used this application for my pc and it did the trick... it was called something like AIC tools?? Forget the name exactly, T work so cant see it right now. But it was awesome, if anyone needs to know what its called lemme know and ill post it when i get home. Im trying cognition 4.3 right now.
Have a small problem tho if anyone can help that be great,
Basically, my home button goes nuts every once in a while and acts as if its bein pressed a bunch of times when my fingers are nowhere near it.... weird... does a ghost come with cognition?? Lol
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Questions pertaining to specific roms should be asked in their thread. Most times you're not the only one that's had that problem and it's already been addressed. That translates into search and read.