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About the OTA, you, and your phone

The reason we haven't said much on the OTA is it's not entirely official. Until it starts hitting everyones phones I wouldn't say it's released. And until then, it could change! We know the leaked OTA works with our tools still. But that doesn't mean the released one will. Once we KNOW what is final, we will make a method to update without the nonsense of ruu'ing your phones. If you wait, you will get a easier time. If you are in such a hurry to get 720p, so be it.

Yeah, I'm not really understanding why everyones rushing to get this on their phone. I'm waiting. I know once it officially hits our phones it shouldn't take long until we can patch it properly and still keep our root.

Yes, this i can wait for... a good, working froyo rom ---------- that's another story...
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Thanks for the update and of course all of your hard work, it's really awesome when devs keep the community informed as much as you guys do.

I as well was wondering why people were rushing to get this done on their phone so fast. I knew you guys would be patching it I also noticed that you guys now have an unlocked bootloader?!
http://twitter.com/unrevoked/status/18736914664
full nand unlock + whatever else this can accomplish (I guess anything now) here we come!

dspero said:
Yes, this i can wait for... a good, working froyo rom ---------- that's another story...
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A good one will come when it's released for our phones from HTC.

kentoe said:
I as well was wondering why people were rushing to get this done on their phone so fast. I knew you guys would be patching it I also noticed that you guys now have an unlocked bootloader?!
http://twitter.com/unrevoked/status/18736914664
full nand unlock + whatever else this can accomplish (I guess anything now) here we come!
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I am a tweaker by heart, so I cannot sit idle, waiting. I'm not saying its a bad thing to wait, its just not for me and I am willing to take the risks.

what does unlocked bootloader mean?

It means our phones are completely unlocked and we can screw them up even easier than before.

I am currently rooted, but would like the contents of the upcoming OTA. I understand that I have to revert back to stock and unroot in order to install this update, since the new radio is what I am most excited about. Is this our only option to go about applying the update? I like having root access, but ultimately I would rather receive the OTAs that will be coming soon. Does anybody have any insight about whether or not there will be a way to install these updates in the form of a ROM without losing root, or should I just bite the bullet and unroot if this is what I ultimately want with my phone?

mickym5 said:
. Does anybody have any insight about whether or not there will be a way to install these updates in the form of a ROM without losing root, or should I just bite the bullet and unroot if this is what I ultimately want with my phone?
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That's pretty much what this post is about. Once the OTA is final and is actually being pushed, we will get a version of it that doesn't require us to go through the current process which requires us to unroot our phones.

I, for one, can wait for the rooted version of the OTA...continued thanks to the unrEVOked team for their unselfish efforts on our behalf.
JC

If the version that was posted on here for everyone to DL is indeed the true official ota u wont lose root. As unrevokeds brilliant tool still makes even verizons ota its *****. I love it when vzw and htc gets owned by some guys that do this shot for free. All hail unrEVOked lol
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ksizzle9 said:
If the version that was posted on here for everyone to DL is indeed the true official ota u wont lose root. As unrevokeds brilliant tool still makes even verizons ota its *****. I love it when vzw and htc gets owned by some guys that do this shot for free. All hail unrEVOked lol
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+1, I wonder if these guys (and girls?) ever get job offers from htc/vzw or even google. I would if I was one of those companies. Skills can be taught but passion and critical thinking can't.

ksizzle9 said:
If the version that was posted on here for everyone to DL is indeed the true official ota u wont lose root. As unrevokeds brilliant tool still makes even verizons ota its *****. I love it when vzw and htc gets owned by some guys that do this shot for free. All hail unrEVOked lol
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LOL. I like to think that the reason the root still worked is because HTC isn't a douche like Motorola and realized that the hackability of the phone translates to sales of the phone.
Just my opinion...

jermaine151 said:
LOL. I like to think that the reason the root still worked is because HTC isn't a douche like Motorola and realized that the hackability of the phone translates to sales of the phone.
Just my opinion...
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Sorry, no, they would be quite happy to close the hole. And with the leaks posting the plaintext method up for them recently, they will pretty quickly.
To be honest all you most likely need as opposed to these elaborate methods to unroot, is to flash stock recovery back (hint, use reflash with the ruu's recovery.img as the image you select!), and then run the leaked ota as update.zip. But again, I don't see much reason to upgrade until it's official and we determine the changes.

Shadowmite said:
Sorry, no, they would be quite happy to close the hole. And with the leaks posting the plaintext method up for them recently, they will pretty quickly.
To be honest all you most likely need as opposed to these elaborate methods to unroot, is to flash stock recovery back (hint, use reflash with the ruu's recovery.img as the image you select!), and then run the leaked ota as update.zip. But again, I don't see much reason to upgrade until it's official and we determine the changes.
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LOL... what a novel idea. Guess that why you get paid the big bucks.

Not installing the leak here. Installed leak on my eris...once bitten twice shy.
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You will install an alpha aosp rom and not an ota?
Seems funny.

adrynalyne said:
You will install an alpha aosp rom and not an ota?
Seems funny.
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Sorry I meant the leak ota. That's where I got burned before.
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Rooting the milestone.

Hi I am thinking of rooting my milestone but I am not sure about the risks of bricking the phone. How likely is it that it will get bricked or can I make a backup before I begin?
Many thanks, CFORDv
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Anyone?
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Not one person?
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hi, i was just like you but if you follow the steps EXACTLY to the tutorial on here then you will be fine. one thing though, you dont need to update your bootloader 90.73 or 90.94 if you have those and when you flash vulnerable recovery, the tutorial doesn't tell you that when the phone restarts from flashing the first time, you must hold UP on the keypad (or X for bootloader version 90.78) as i had that problem. finally use G.O.T's open recovery as its much better than the original one (apps2sd is good as milestone has hardly any memory for games and stuff. if you need any help, then contact me on here. Happy flashing

Thanks I have pmed you but it's just if I root this phone and the phonw bricks then I'm screwed. I can't just go buy a new one. Is there a way I can totaly avoid any chances of bricking or just un-bricking the phone if necessery?
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right, i understand where you are coming from as i had to think for about 6 hours before i finally plucked up the courage to root mine as i bought one from ebay and messed that up but it was already messed up. if you havent done anything to your phone yet (virgin state) apart from doing Over-The_air updates then it will go fine considering you follow the instructions EXACTLY and everything will go fine like mine did. i will find the website that i used and give it to you as i know it works 100%. how long have you had your milestone?
p.s you dont really need a g1, they are good but milestone is much much better (asphalt gt 5 is amazing!!!!!)

noelyboy said:
right, i understand where you are coming from as i had to think for about 6 hours before i finally plucked up the courage to root mine as i bought one from ebay and messed that up but it was already messed up. if you havent done anything to your phone yet (virgin state) apart from doing Over-The_air updates then it will go fine considering you follow the instructions EXACTLY and everything will go fine like mine did. i will find the website that i used and give it to you as i know it works 100%. how long have you had your milestone?
p.s you dont really need a g1, they are good but milestone is much much better (asphalt gt 5 is amazing!!!!!)
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thanks i've had my milestone for 2 weeks now and the reason i want a g1 is to start developing on. as you can load just about anything on it and they are really cheap, i think it would be handy and fun to play with + great to load all my work on

If you use GOT's recovery to root the phone it's utterly painless, and you've got a nandroid backup built into it.

yeah but I've got to downgrade from 2.1 first and that's what I'm worried about
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Hi guys, newbie here..
Don't flame me first..i read alot in this milestone forum..
But I haven't chance upon if rooting the milestone asia edition will cause you to lose my data..will I have to reinstall all app or what ? Please enlighten..I'm ready to root when I got this point straighten out..i have install tons of app..after I root I think I shud be able to get app2sd n setcpu on my rooted milestone.am I right?
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[Q] restore captivate to factory

I have a samsung captivate that i have updated to the leaked 2.2 froyo and needless to say it is a very nice beta version but i am looking foward to the official release my question is there anyone out there that can tell me how to flash everything back to orignal so i will be able to get the OTA update of the official 2.2 froyo noob here in desperate need of help

Sending you over that area.
Cheers,

What is it with all these noobs flashing to 2.2 without knowing how to go back before they start?
Is it some kind of epidemic taking hold? I just don't get it.
How do you start something with no idea how to get back?

Get odin one click jf6 or jh7. You can find them on the forum
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989

Take a deep breath. Ok, there is a decent chance that the over the air update wont work for you no matter what you do. That is the bad news. Good news is that it will be available on this site almost immediately after it is out.
What rom did you flash and why are you so desperate to get rid of it? You jumped in the pool might as well learn how to swim
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mcord11758 said:
Take a deep breath. Ok, there is a decent chance that the over the air update wont work for you no matter what you do. That is the bad news. Good news is that it will be available on this site almost immediately after it is out.
What rom did you flash and why are you so desperate to get rid of it? You jumped in the pool might as well learn how to swim
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I flashed the leaked 2.2 rom got it off xda site figured it would be about as easy to do as jailbreaking an iphone but ill admit i couldnt have been more wrong well anyway this leaked ji6 rom has its cool parts but my phone has problems with freezing up now and various occasional hiccups tried the one click flash to stock but that made it worse so back to ji6 i went guess its too late now but just wish i could go back to stock now :-(

alphadog00 said:
What is it with all these noobs flashing to 2.2 without knowing how to go back before they start?
Is it some kind of epidemic taking hold? I just don't get it.
How do you start something with no idea how to get back?
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Amazing ain't it... Shows how anxious they all are or how little they research these things. I waited quite some time before flashing any roms on my Sprint Hero and once the 1 click rooting became available went over at least 2 dozen different roms intently before flashing CM6 and any additional oc kernels. That phone was a walk in the park compared to this one since you could revert back 100% stock with a current RUU apk.
I wonder whats going to happen when they don't release 2.2 and go straight to Gingerbread in December...how many bricked phones will there be...?
Mac

Should I flash my phone or wait for ATT froyo?

So basically I have a couple questions before flashing my phone to Serendipity 4.3
1. If I flash can I ever go back to "real stock"?
2. Since froyo is not out for the captivate. I was wondering if the 2.2 roms were real froyo roms? (Like the Serendipity 4.3)
3. Since froyo is coming out soon, should I just wait for the ATT version of froyo?
4. If I do flash, can I get the ATT version of froyo? (when it comes out)
Thanks for reading

Yes
Yes
No
And doesn't exist yet
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Thanks for the fast reply. but for my 4th question i mean when ATT does release froyo can i use it?

rayoubi said:
Thanks for the fast reply. but for my 4th question i mean when ATT does release froyo can i use it?
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Yes of course, all you'll have to do is an update through kies once you flash back to stock when it comes out.

rayoubi said:
Thanks for the fast reply. but for my 4th question i mean when ATT does release froyo can i use it?
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You won't want to.

^^
He's right.

I wouldn't wait for AT&T, it could be a long time before they release anything. Happy flashing!!

MikeyMike01 said:
You won't want to.
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So true...

Waiting for AT&T Froyo is like waiting to win the lottery...
As the rest have said, FLASH AWAY! Once you start, you'll see how addictive it really is. Try them all. They all have thier own pro's and con's

I sucessfully flashed my phone! I love my phone now, geezes I dont know why i waited sooooo long.
Thanks every1!

Probably going to flash a custom ROM (phoenix 4.1) for the first time this weekend. I currently have the AT&T 2.2 beta flashed from a one-click, but have never gone through the whole process. I have a couple questions.
1. Is the phoenix install instructions on the first page of the discussion in the development section complete? I was browsing through the discussion and some folks said there were some apps missing, like the music player (not that I used the stock one).
2. there are patches listed and it doesn't really say how to apply them. any guidance? rather than page through 700+ pages, is there a summary on how?
3. is there a lagfix in the Phoenix ROM or is it needed for 2.2.1 ROMs at all?

rayoubi said:
I sucessfully flashed my phone! I love my phone now, geezes I dont know why i waited sooooo long.
Thanks every1!
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that was my first reaction too when I finally got around to flashing roms

gokartracer5 said:
Probably going to flash a custom ROM (phoenix 4.1) for the first time this weekend. I currently have the AT&T 2.2 beta flashed from a one-click, but have never gone through the whole process. I have a couple questions.
1. Is the phoenix install instructions on the first page of the discussion in the development section complete? I was browsing through the discussion and some folks said there were some apps missing, like the music player (not that I used the stock one).
2. there are patches listed and it doesn't really say how to apply them. any guidance? rather than page through 700+ pages, is there a summary on how?
3. is there a lagfix in the Phoenix ROM or is it needed for 2.2.1 ROMs at all?
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Each rom is done to the Dev's way so yes some remove some apps that they deem junk. Like all the att crapware that is installed. All the fixes are clockwork flashable that I know of. Most were for older versions of the rom. IF you follow the directions in the FAQ you will be fine, Just make sure then after you flash back to stock that you can get into recovery and DL mode with the 3 button combos just in case something goes wrong

cool thanks. looking forward to it.

Did u have to root first? I want to update to 2.2 i rooted yesterday and now im not sure what to do.
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GrapePopRocks said:
Did u have to root first? I want to update to 2.2 i rooted yesterday and now im not sure what to do.
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Yes you need to be rooted.

shawn122 said:
Yes you need to be rooted.
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Thank you where do i go for the update and instructions? Ive seen different videos so Id like to b sure im doin it rite
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new to rooting

hi guys i'm new to rooting so how hard is it?

Have a look at Q1 in the FAQ thread which is stickied and you'll be able to pick your preferred method and find out.
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smarty2322 said:
hi guys i'm new to rooting so how hard is it?
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Pretty easy if you can read, comprehend and follow instructions.

Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?

ajaffarali said:
Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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Don't think so what's the point to rooting with out them

jaythenut said:
Don't think so what's the point to rooting with out them
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There are many apps that require root, here are 4 apps Im currently using on all my devices:
Titanium Backup
ROM Toolbox
Greenify
Adblock Plus

Bagbug said:
There are many apps that require root, here are 4 apps Im currently using on all my devices:
Titanium Backup
ROM Toolbox
Greenify
Adblock Plus
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Thanks not heard of greenify cool app thanks :good:

I've never rooted a handset either, gonna buy the One next week and probably root to get the menu option but one q I have is......is it easy to go back to complete stock??
Is there anything to be carful about??
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nickosbad said:
I've never rooted a handset either, gonna buy the One next week and probably root to get the menu option but one q I have is......is it easy to go back to complete stock??
Is there anything to be carful about??
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It will always say (relocked) in recovery

My advice is READ READ READ/SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH
I did that for weeks before I even bought my Nexus One and rooted it over 3 years ago
Even after all that time, I have already read over a thousand posts thru out the One Forum in preparation of buying the phone
Lot less headaches that way and better chance of not bricking your new/expensive phone--

rugmankc said:
My advice is READ READ READ/SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH
I did that for weeks before I even bought my Nexus One and rooted it over 3 years ago
Even after all that time, I have already read over a thousand posts thru out the One Forum in preparation of buying the phone
Lot less headaches that way and better chance of not bricking your new/expensive phone--
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I can vouch for this. I bought my One two days ago and have it unlocked and rooted. However, it wasn't easy for me (this is the first Android I've ever "hacked") and it took two full days of researching and asking for help.

ajaffarali said:
Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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You need custom recovery to flash the SU binaries to xbin. But, once you get root, you can reapply the stock recovery via fastboot, though I Dont know why you would, you would lose much control of recovering your phone after any mishaps. Though I suppose you could reflash custom recovery in that event. Though you'd have to wait til you were near adb/SDK.
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scottspa74 said:
You need custom recovery to flash the SU binaries to xbin. But, once you get root, you can reapply the stock recovery via fastboot, though I Dont know why you would, you would lose much control of recovering your phone after any mishaps. Though I suppose you could reflash custom recovery in that event. Though you'd have to wait til you were near adb/SDK.
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Dont want to lose the ability of getting OTA updates- thats basically it.

i have been rooted over 3 years and always get them thru roms sooner--never took one
have seen people taking updates and getting messed up

Also the fact that custom ROMs keep updating very frequently and I have itchy fingers. Think I'm tired of that. Unless a serious bug is present in stock ROM that HTC is taking too long to fix or maybe when Viper releases their ROM for the One, I'm planning on sticking to stock.

ajaffarali said:
Also the fact that custom ROMs keep updating very frequently and I have itchy fingers. Think I'm tired of that. Unless a serious bug is present in stock ROM that HTC is taking too long to fix or maybe when Viper releases their ROM for the One, I'm planning on sticking to stock.
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Understand, and could have sworn I replied to your post already--need a vacation--

ajaffarali said:
Dont want to lose the ability of getting OTA updates- thats basically it.
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Once you unlock why would you want to receive OTA updates?
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shook187 said:
Once you unlock why would you want to receive OTA updates?
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To keep my phone on the latest software? I hear lots of people who have rooted are not seeing the upgrade and I dont wanna deal with custom ROMs

as folks have said, read a bunch. and follow directions very closely.
gaining root access to the phone isn't tough. how much time it takes also kinda depends on what you plan to do with root access.
- if your with root is to use the stock rom, and just gain access to rooted apps, and maybe get rid of some bloatware (again read which one's are safe to delete first!), then rooting won't take too much time.
- if you plan on trying new roms and kernels to try to ring every last drop of functionality and speed and battery life out of that chunk of hardware, then expect it to take some time. this path is voluntary. but it should be considered a lifestyle, not a solution.