Just thought I'd move to a more appropriate thread.
I'm afraid I've made no further progress and, since going back to work, have had little time to experiment.
The status is still that:
1. The Breeze and Cavalier are very similar at the hardware and software layers.
2. It IS possible to unpack the Cavalier ROM and re-flash to the Breeze using Hermes tools and the SSPL in this forum.
3. The real problem apears to be re-packing the XIP files within the ROM to fit the Breeze Memory map.
I haven't got 3 to work
darrellr said:
Just thought I'd move to a more appropriate thread.
I'm afraid I've made no further progress and, since going back to work, have had little time to experiment.
The status is still that:
1. The Breeze and Cavalier are very similar at the hardware and software layers.
2. It IS possible to unpack the Cavalier ROM and re-flash to the Breeze using Hermes tools and the SSPL in this forum.
3. The real problem apears to be re-packing the XIP files within the ROM to fit the Breeze Memory map.
I haven't got 3 to work
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Ask if pof can help you out
sdamion said:
Ask if pof can help you out
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He already has, as has 'SP3dev'
darrellr said:
He already has, as has 'SP3dev'
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Can you upload the cavileer rom somewhere because the link in the other post isn't working any more.
sdamion said:
Can you upload the cavileer rom somewhere because the link in the other post isn't working any more.
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You tell me where and I'll upload it.
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You tell me where and I'll upload it.
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I just checked and it's still on the ftp site. I fear you'll need to try a hell of a lot harder if you want to learn and then carry out the XIP port
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Smartphone/Cavalier/Shipped_Complete_Updates/Dopod/
Why i can't download from ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Smartph...Updates/Dopod/ it says permissions denied?
Sergey55555 said:
Why i can't download from ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Smartph...Updates/Dopod/ it says permissions denied?
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Would you believe you need a password .... and to read the Wiki.
darrellr said:
Would you believe you need a password .... and to read the Wiki.
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Would you believe you gave the wrong link its on the ftp xda-defelopers /Uploads/Smartphone/Cavalier/Shipped_Complete_Updates/Dopod/. But its al good.
darrellr said:
Would you believe you need a password .... and to read the Wiki.
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I have a problem. I made some custom wm5 roms flashed them witout a problem. Nou i tried a wm6 rom. Flased the os only. It didnt boot. Only the bootloader. But now after updating to the 1.34 HTC rom. My phone won't boot. What did i do wrong.
Cavalier_DOPODASIA_WWE in my HTC MTeor?
I can put "RUU_Cavalier_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.16.707.7_1.43.50.00_108_Ship.exe" in my HTC MTeor???
Help me please, thank you
darrellr said:
Just thought I'd move to a more appropriate thread.
I'm afraid I've made no further progress and, since going back to work, have had little time to experiment.
The status is still that:
1. The Breeze and Cavalier are very similar at the hardware and software layers.
2. It IS possible to unpack the Cavalier ROM and re-flash to the Breeze using Hermes tools and the SSPL in this forum.
3. The real problem apears to be re-packing the XIP files within the ROM to fit the Breeze Memory map.
I haven't got 3 to work
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Well, I'm on a week's break again. I sort of hoped that someone would have moved it on but I'm cool to give it a second bash. Hopefully someone has written an explaination on XIP porting since my last break .....
nice nice looks nice
Hi, there... as you maybe read in some other threads i sell my htc touch and get back to mteor...
so also i want to have a wm6 rom on my mteor...
i have done some testing but nothing coming to life...
also the reflashing to take a 2nd shot is very complicated because i have everytime to reflash the orig. 1,34er rom... sspl flashing didn't work for me...
also i read some of the posts about xip remapping... i have get into the xip today in the morning...
but i don't know how to remap the files!? but i hopefully have today (also @work) sometime to do some research...
as i read in the Blue Angles WM6 Developement Thread, it never has been so far that a wm6 rom from another device is working on the to ported device...
but... the cavalier hw is just looking very identically with breezes one...
only thing i found... the samsung processor, since it is the same "partnr." the clock speed is @400mhz, as i read on some pages about the cavalier?!
steve
Hi, there...
i have just extraced the xip parts from the rom now...
so now there a 2 problems...
when using dumpromx to extract i come to the files
when i using xipport i only get some files (eg. boot.rgu) and only folders of the modules (eg. coredll.dll)
with xipport extraction it is possible to reconvert to a xip.bin file... (i didn't tested it then to recopy the xip in the rom... )
while using dumpromx i haven't found any solution to recreate the xip.bin file... there comes always an error when using the option to "resave" the files...
good news! i hope that i can test WM6 for MTeoR in near future
p.s. sorry, i can't help you with xip because i didn't know about it
futureshock said:
Hi, there...
i have just extraced the xip parts from the rom now...
so now there a 2 problems...
when using dumpromx to extract i come to the files
when i using xipport i only get some files (eg. boot.rgu) and only folders of the modules (eg. coredll.dll)
with xipport extraction it is possible to reconvert to a xip.bin file... (i didn't tested it then to recopy the xip in the rom... )
while using dumpromx i haven't found any solution to recreate the xip.bin file... there comes always an error when using the option to "resave" the files...
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hi,
i'm a complete newbie cooking roms, but i was able to decompile the nbh to nb then split it into its varios parts (radio, os, spl, etc...) using "rom koch"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299297
it dumped correctly all files to a folder with a subfolder called XIP.
Maybe you can get it to work from there...
Thank's
Found another tool that may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331094&highlight=g'reloc
1. G'Reloc - updated
Tool for boost rom cooking by autofixing and relocating ALL modules in IMGFS.
I'm really new to this and everywhere it says: ROMs and Kitchen and also ROM Kitchen and I can never find what a kitchen really is. If search Kitchen I find all these kitchen files which people created, but is it something where you flash your mobile with? Like my Xperia I flashed from version 1 to version 2 (RCAA2 or something).
But I don't know all these terms and maybe they are so easy that if you don't know it you can't find it anywhere. For example when I want to download WinMO 6.5 it says: Kitchen and ROM, but I don't know the difference and just wanted to flash my mobile (which is rather easy i thought)
So can someone tell me the difference?
in the kitchen developers cook the rom's
a rom is the program you flash to your phone to update it
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kovsky&redirectfrom=HTC_Venus
a rom is more a image that you flash to your device than a program
kitchen is the programm you need to cook a rom...
to cook a rom mean to create your own image for your device
Ah I see, thanks for the answers. I just updated mine to WM 6.5 looks good, but as my endless GPRS is starting in may I know still want to use NoData, which is not working, so i'm going back to generic.
Thanks for the answers I know have more of an idea of the meanings
Hello guys, i have question.
For example i can`t find a Explanations for new persons who wana cook a ROM.
I found some Kitchens but its not writen anything, and is very hard for peoples who are new in the cooking to understand anything.
For example.. some Short Thread and usefl explanation like.. You need to download a Kitchen then you need to find and download OEM, SYS etc etc the elements for cooking new ROM and then you begin start cooking.
Its so confused that i even can`t find the latest packages to use for the Blackstone.
So all the things are not so hard.. and if we have Thread with good exmplantation.. we can read it several times and to know what we doing exactly, not everybody is born like a cooker and i think that everyone who wana cook ROM`s in the future i mean NEW Cookers will be awesome we to have from where to read ALL IN ONE post.
If Some Cooker can make a STEP BY STEP Guide in one Thread this will be very usefull for all.
For example now i wana Cook a ROM but i don`t know How, because its full with Thread and how much you read them is more and more confused.
Thanks in advance
OK, will give some ideas how to start. I am a beginner, so here I will tell you, how I started.
Before you start cooking:
- download this kitchen, which already have all needed packages in(Windows Mobile [6.5.5][23529] Manila 2.5 and other stuff). If you want kitchen with no packages go in this thread and for different SYS packeges look at this thread
This kitchen is best choice for new cookers, because it contains explanation for each system package.
- Then, read this thread - it was really useful for me, at least in general terms.
- Also, in process of cooking you will want to change some registry, so, keep in ming, that you should look mainly at these two files, they are for general registry settings
user.hv & default.hv
I am using WinCE Registry Editor to open them.
Cooking in Process
1) Beginning
When you will open kitchen in the first time you will see something like this
Then you should choose all main options such as Device Model, SYS build and so on...(if you downloaded kitchen without packages, you should add them manually - look at the "Folders in the root of kitchen" part to find, where you should place all packages)
When you will finish it, go to System Packeges(core components in WM)
Also, you need to choose, which OEM and EXT packages you want in your ROM
If you want clean ROM, just uncheck EXT packages, which you don't need. But remember, unlike EXT many of the SYS and OEM packages are crucial and specific for each device.
Please also explain how to REMOVE things from the pakacke that i don`t like for example programs if i want to remove mp3 trimmer and will be the same for all other apps that we wana remove
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Well, as I said, in order to remove any program from ROM(for example MP3 Trimmer), you shoul remove its package from kitchen(simply uncheck it)
2) Folders in the root of kitchen
This is how base folder of my kitchen looks like.
CABs folder were created by manually(Oprional - you don't need to create it if you don't want). I am using this folder for all cabs, which I will convert in EXT packages in the future.
Flash folder is "the folder where cooked ROMs will be saved when the build process is complete" and also it have all necessary file for flashing.
Projects folder is folder where all your projects will be saved.
Resources folder contain "files and tools necessary for the kitchen to work, don't touch it!"
Sources folder contains all SYS, Kernels, etc. This is main folder, where you can change everything related to WM and its programs.
So, there is Sources subfolders:
-> EXT - there you can create folders and put your ext packages
-> MSXIPKernel - always create folder named as version and inside it place all MSXIPKernel files
-> NK - native kernels, create there folder for your device (names in first post). Learn more about this folder in the kitchen tutorial.
-> OEM - Here create just as with NK your device-named folder and place in it OEM files
-> ROM - There also create device-named folder and place in it romhdr.bin, os.nb.payload and folder XIP with MSXIPKernelLtk and OEMXIPKernel without nk.exe!!
-> Stuff - just some stuff for devices, you can't do anything there, don't touch it
-> SYS - There create version-named directories. In them are supposed to be few more directories:
->-> All - There goes DPI and RES related stuff, but NO LANGS!
->-> Common - There place all nonDPI, nonRES, nonLANG related files, just main binaries etc
->-> <lang code> - here goes all langs, like 0405, 0409, 0C0A etc
This was partly copied from kitchen manual, so if you want, you can read more about structure of these folders in this manual.
3) Import CABs, OEM and SYS packages to EXT
One of the main part of cooking process is adding programs in the kitchen.
You can do it in two ways - using program tools or copying in the EXT folder whatever you want.
Here, I will explain easiest way of how to do it by using program tools.
First of all, go to "Convert"
then choose option, for example "From CAB to EXT", fill all blank spaces
and you will see, that your packages will be added in the ROM
That's all! Then, when you will finish, just press "Start cooking" and waiting for results
I hope it was clear enough. If you have any question - post it in this thread or PM, I will try to answer.
Thanks for the Help, now i will explain you what i want exactly!!!
Why i want to cook a ROM
So i already have few Favorite ROM`s they are cool but they can be even more better, and clear.
For example i can`t dupm the ROM`s i love because they are protected etc.
So i like the Builds from Branch COM 2 now the latest one is 21893 i like them most because they are Fast and Stable, I just want to Have one Clear WM 6.5 Build ROM with Manila 2.1.19.21
What i mean by clear is ... all the ROM`s have alot of apps and things that im not using and never will use on the future, so this apps that are coocked just eat from my device memory. Also i want the default stock Task bar icons.. because if i want to costumize them i can do all this with Theme just to install a cab.
This is only the reason why i wana cook a ROM if you have any idea also HOW i can edit a ROM for example this my FAVORITE ROM witch is NBH file just to OPen it extract is somewhay and to remove all apps i want and to do some minorr changes and again to make it a nbh file will be awesome i mean that in this way i will not have need to cook a brand new ROM.
tsalta said:
Thanks for the Help, now i will explain you what i want exactly!!!
Why i want to cook a ROM
So i already have few Favorite ROM`s they are cool but they can be even more better, and clear.
For example i can`t dupm the ROM`s i love because they are protected etc.
So i like the Builds from Branch COM 2 now the latest one is 21893 i like them most because they are Fast and Stable, I just want to Have one Clear WM 6.5 Build ROM with Manila 2.1.19.21
What i mean by clear is ... all the ROM`s have alot of apps and things that im not using and never will use on the future, so this apps that are coocked just eat from my device memory. Also i want the default stock Task bar icons.. because if i want to costumize them i can do all this with Theme just to install a cab.
This is only the reason why i wana cook a ROM if you have any idea also HOW i can edit a ROM for example this my FAVORITE ROM witch is NBH file just to OPen it extract is somewhay and to remove all apps i want and to do some minorr changes and again to make it a nbh file will be awesome i mean that in this way i will not have need to cook a brand new ROM.
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Wait, let me finish my post first. It take some time. Then I will answer on your questions.
tsalta said:
Thanks for the Help, now i will explain you what i want exactly!!!
Why i want to cook a ROM
So i already have few Favorite ROM`s they are cool but they can be even more better, and clear.
For example i can`t dupm the ROM`s i love because they are protected etc.
So i like the Builds from Branch COM 2 now the latest one is 21893 i like them most because they are Fast and Stable, I just want to Have one Clear WM 6.5 Build ROM with Manila 2.1.19.21
What i mean by clear is ... all the ROM`s have alot of apps and things that im not using and never will use on the future, so this apps that are coocked just eat from my device memory. Also i want the default stock Task bar icons.. because if i want to costumize them i can do all this with Theme just to install a cab.
This is only the reason why i wana cook a ROM if you have any idea also HOW i can edit a ROM for example this my FAVORITE ROM witch is NBH file just to OPen it extract is somewhay and to remove all apps i want and to do some minorr changes and again to make it a nbh file will be awesome i mean that in this way i will not have need to cook a brand new ROM.
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correction 21895 is latest
miniterror said:
correction 21895 is latest
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Is this what i need? : http://joojoobee666.ppckitchen.org/Kitchens/21895/
I download SYS_21895_192DPI_0409
SYS_21895_Common.rar
SYS_21895_XIP.rar
LOL LOL LOL
Aliff this will be a GREAT TUT MAN I LOVE YOU.. if you do all the things like this after this THREAD is finished almost everyone will be able to cook a ROM
Thank you i will wait when you finish with the TUT and will Start READ step by step to don`t miss anything.
Please also explain how to REMOVE things from the pakacke that i don`t like for example programs if i want to remove mp3 trimmer and will be the same for all other apps that we wana remove
Okay if I understand you right the SYS Package is that for the Build and if i want diferent Build i just need to change the SYS the OEM is the Base and i can use now this OEM that is inclused in the Kitchen or i can Update this too? For example i download now the latest I download
SYS_21895_192DPI_0409 --- I understand that 192DPI is for our Blackstones 0409 mean WWE
SYS_21895_Common.rar
SYS_21895_XIP.rar
So i only need this components tocreate a new 21895 based rom and i can use the OEM that is on the Kitchen or i must change it too?
Testing method
thanks for the tutorial, i myself has been wanting to create my own ROM but dont really know where to begin...
1 thing that i would like to ask, is there a way to test the ROM without actually flashing it to the device? well, you know a newbie in cooking, can result in undesirable result if not properly done, and dont really want to brick my device (touchwood)...
KayK said:
thanks for the tutorial, i myself has been wanting to create my own ROM but dont really know where to begin...
1 thing that i would like to ask, is there a way to test the ROM without actually flashing it to the device? well, you know a newbie in cooking, can result in undesirable result if not properly done, and dont really want to brick my device (touchwood)...
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Same question over here!
aliff thank you for this..... I've been looking for something like this for ages...
It answers a lot of my questions that I had and now I can begin with optimizing and cooking my own ROM...
KayK said:
thanks for the tutorial, i myself has been wanting to create my own ROM but dont really know where to begin...
1 thing that i would like to ask, is there a way to test the ROM without actually flashing it to the device? well, you know a newbie in cooking, can result in undesirable result if not properly done, and dont really want to brick my device (touchwood)...
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SJackal said:
Same question over here!
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Nothing like that exists that I am aware off. BTW you will have to make it really terrible to brick your device with a bad ROM.
Cooking means, altering stuff, cooking, flashing, f'ing up, alter some more stuff, cook, flash and so on.. There is no easier way to test unfortunally.
Yeah, thanks.
It's not probable that I'd cook my own ROM, but you never know...
This thread is Awesome!!
I had the same problem just like anyone else.....
You just don't know where to start and where to get the sys builds etc.
Is there a moderator who thinks this is usefull? please make it sticky
motorboy-johnny said:
This thread is Awesome!!
I had the same problem just like anyone else.....
You just don't know where to start and where to get the sys builds etc.
Is there a moderator who thinks this is usefull? please make it sticky
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There is already a thread with the same purpose stickied.. It's sparkies kitchen, you can download the latest builds there. Also this forum has a nice search function, search for stuff. Questions you can always ask in sparkies thread (which also links to an awesome tutorial by KWBR).
EpiphanyNL said:
There is already a thread with the same purpose stickied..
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I didn't find this thread, that why I described how I started.
EpiphanyNL said:
It's sparkies kitchen, you can download the latest builds there. Also this forum has a nice search function, search for stuff. Questions you can always ask in sparkies thread (which also links to an awesome tutorial by KWBR).
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Yes, this thread can really help with many questions about ROM making.
About KWBR Cooking tutorial - they were posted in this thread, but it currently empty.
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I didn't find this thread, that why I described how I started.
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Oh no? It's sparkies kitchen thread and ofcourse it's ok to describe it, but I dont think this thread should be stickied, maybe linked to in sparkies thread. Since there are more then one types of kitchen
aliff said:
Yes, this thread can really help with many questions about ROM making.
About KWBR Cooking tutorial - they were posted in this thread, but it currently empty.
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Oh maybe that has to do with KWBR being away for some time
Can anyone give me the sources from where to download the Packages i need? I google few hours and don`t find this things that im looking for.
I download SYS 21895 but i need EXT packages that include the latest 2.1.19.21 Sense Manila
Also from where can download this Manila CFC Compressed etc?
ALso if someone point me from where to get the latest Upto Date OEM packs will be cool.
I want to try to cook Blackstone WWE WM 6.5 ROM build 21895 with Manila 2.1.19.21 also with the latest Up To Date APPS etc
tsalta said:
Can anyone give me the sources from where to download the Packages i need? I google few hours and don`t find this things that im looking for.
I download SYS 21895 but i need EXT packages that include the latest 2.1.19.21 Sense Manila
Also from where can download this Manila CFC Compressed etc?
ALso if someone point me from where to get the latest Upto Date OEM packs will be cool.
I want to try to cook Blackstone WWE WM 6.5 ROM build 21895 with Manila 2.1.19.21 also with the latest Up To Date APPS etc
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You can find the latest Manila here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/Shipped_Roms
The CFC application:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470798
latest Up to Date apps can be found in sparkies thread, Tmob Leo 2.10 ext packages
Does anyone know if it's possible to cook using Linux via WINE? I'm thinking it should be as there is no actual activesync required.
Wouldn't mind 'trying' to put together a 6.1 ROM
Excellent tutorial stuff
Question time:
I made myself a 23544 rom and cooked it with no ext packages at all. It flashed and booted fine, so I added all of the Leo 2.10 packages - nothing else. Now it boots to a white screen. I'm guessing there are some incompatible packages for the HD2, or I'm missing some dependencies for the HD. Anybody know what these are?
Hi everyone, I need help building a rom for the x1.
I am using ervius's kitchen and trying to base my rom on Topaz(SYS, OEM, EXT and ROM folders) and kovsky os.nb.payload, xip and romhdr. I am able to succesfully build and flash rom, but phone does not go past sony ericsson splash screen(waited 10mins max). Can someone please advice me what I have done wrong.
thanx
derran said:
Hi everyone, I need help building a rom for the x1.
I am using ervius's kitchen and trying to base my rom on Topaz(SYS, OEM, EXT and ROM folders) and kovsky os.nb.payload, xip and romhdr. I am able to succesfully build and flash rom, but phone does not go past sony ericsson splash screen(waited 10mins max). Can someone please advice me what I have done wrong.
thanx
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You have to use Kovsky's OEMXipkernel & OEMDrivers, not Topaz's.
Goodluck!
Thank you williyung I am now using x1 OEMXipkernel & OEMDrivers but now when I start cooking Rom Platform builder.exe stops at InvokeSIMMgr_1_12_0_2 and I get "ROM Kithcen Executable has stopped working" does anyone have say on this?
NEVERMIND the kitchen limited number of packages to 536
Since two days I'm finally a custom-ROM-user. I've tried different 6.5er and 6.1er ROMs...but nothing fit to my needs. So I decided starting to cook my own ROM...but I couldn't find a working doanload for kitchen nor a tutorial for creating ROMs. Hope, anybody could help me
I'm looking for one too :/
For a long time.
I'm interested on this too.
Lechux has shared his kitchen but i don't know how to use it. What tutorial i should read??
You don't have to learn cooking to modify & recompile any ROM if you have a working kitchen made by any chef. Special knowledge is required if you want to deeply understand how everything works, but you'll get it with cooking experience.
So the advice is to go to chef central and read stickies.
Thanks mate!
I've only been searching the x1-board. I'm going to read the stickies right now
Cysign said:
Thanks mate!
I've only been searching the x1-board. I'm going to read the stickies right now
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Not only read, but also try to build rom using kitchen you have. Practice is the best for education (for example, I've made my first ROM after 2 days of reading & investigating)
I gave it a shoot. But there are a lot of things I couldn't find information about.
Cleaning my stock ROM with osKitchen Zero 1.33.5 was easy. But I couldn't built-in different CABs I'd like to have installed after hard-reset.
And I even don't know how/what to change to get a well prepared start-menu after installing my new ROM.
So do you have some links which explain that stuff to me?
I want:
-Different CABs being installed after installing ROM
-do some Registry-Changes & Change startmenu
good to hear, keep trying!
Cysign said:
I gave it a shoot. But there are a lot of things I couldn't find information about.
Cleaning my stock ROM with osKitchen Zero 1.33.5 was easy. But I couldn't built-in different CABs I'd like to have installed after hard-reset.
And I even don't know how/what to change to get a well prepared start-menu after installing my new ROM.
So do you have some links which explain that stuff to me?
I want:
-Different CABs being installed after installing ROM
-do some Registry-Changes & Change startmenu
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Learn how to make EXT packages, then you will be able to convert cabs to EXTs and include this new package into your rom. Also all registry changes are usually made in EXT packages. Good luck!