Hello all.
Since English is not my native language and I'm some sort of new and not familiar here, I may need your help.
Bought X1 last week, after trying some nice guys' rom in xda, I'm wondering if I could able to cook my own rom, I mean to customize my system. I was wondering if I could ripped those things come along with offcial rom but not need, and those things I needed but some really good guys' roms don't have.
So, I am thinking of cooking a rom for what I need, can modify system file it self, such like, rip out "Block Recognizer" and replace it with "PlumSIP" (A really nice Chinese input method), just for example.
And in 2003Se I know some external softwares can be customize installed by extrom, I found out WM6.1 seemed used a special way, like build into a single image file...
Well, generally speaking, I am hoping someone could help me, to show me some tutorial to read and do myself.
Thanks a lot.
PS:Have downloaded kitchen pack, but don't know what all of those soft. would do... For now, I just know how to decomplie an offcial rom in to nb files..
I would also like some info on cooking. I have searched and read a lot on this site but I'm no closer to getting anywhere. I tried to follow the instructions to backup my ROM as they are very easy to follow, but it didnt work.
Does anyone cook with Vista?
What kitchen programs are out there?
Do you have to have a specific kitchen program for each model of phone?
I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448809&highlight=kitchens but its outdated
vinokirk said:
I would also like some info on cooking. I have searched and read a lot on this site but I'm no closer to getting anywhere. I tried to follow the instructions to backup my ROM as they are very easy to follow, but it didnt work.
Does anyone cook with Vista?
What kitchen programs are out there?
Do you have to have a specific kitchen program for each model of phone?
I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448809&highlight=kitchens but its outdated
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X1 got its kitchen app pak, check this:
ftp://x1:[email protected]/XperiaX1/TOOLs/KovskyKitchen.zip
for now I am trying to figue out each module's really would do....
Try jerpleas kitchen in the sticky at the top to start out with. It'll give you the basic kitchen with which you can build a working rom (and simple customization)
Then search for ervius multilang gui for bepes tools (i've linked to it a few times now in this forum).
That's the best I've seen so far, you can dump a stock rom using it and start adding from there.
Cheers dude, i appreciate that :thumbs up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420&highlight=kitchen
This is the link to ervius' kitchen
vinokirk said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420&highlight=kitchen
This is the link to ervius' kitchen
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that may help, thanks. but i'm still looking for tutorials for how to modify dumped rom files to fulfill my own needed.
The only advice i can give is to search search search... There was a large area of trial and error when i cooked my first rom. Some tutorials worked some didn't and its like a combo of everything that will get u going.
IMHO; ervius has the better kitchen, but not for beginners
I agree with Fards: your best bet is to start with the sticky posted one and get used to the basic cooking process on a first place
i think so too. use sticky.
to get feeling for cooking its not needed to read the "X1-TUTORIAL".
check tutorials for diamond, ralphi, hermes and kaiser ... than you will get some aha-effects and you will see some identical rules for syntax and how-tos for cooking with this sticky kitchen.
normaly its not realy possible to make a tutorial for every pda-type cause ...
i dont know why but its o.k., if i look to me i see me dont like reading but more not writing anything ...
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i think so too. use sticky.
to get feeling for cooking its not needed to read the "X1-TUTORIAL".
check tutorials for diamond, ralphi, hermes and kaiser ... than you will get some aha-effects and you will see some identical rules for syntax and how-tos for cooking with this sticky kitchen.
normaly its not realy possible to make a tutorial for every pda-type cause ...
i dont know why but its o.k., if i look to me i see me dont like reading but more not writing anything ...
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good idea, you've pointed me a way.
but i wonder if that is something different from x1 to those diamond, kaiser, raphel blah blah blah...
if you need more petrol for starting i can say only "begin now".
its not realy the same but its realy realy realy near the same.
Hey, can anyone tell me where i can find a litle more info on how to make a rom? I've searched the forum and found som good info, but i need som more or it's maybe just me thats don't get it?? who knows maybe i'm dumd
i have kovsky kitchen and also bepes platform builder, the problem os that i don get it how i can mix topaz and X1 together ??
take a look at the sticky threads
there are two kitchens there with many package options
mine even has a full tutorial
also, take a look at the developers share centre, itje and other cookers have shared many more packages there
jerpelea is always keeping his kitcheen up to date with latest SYS buils and TF3D-2 packages too
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take a look at the sticky threads
there are two kitchens there with many package options
mine even has a full tutorial
also, take a look at the developers share centre, itje and other cookers have shared many more packages there
jerpelea is always keeping his kitcheen up to date with latest SYS buils and TF3D-2 packages too
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I have read your TUT and it's easy to make a lite rom to X1, my problem is that i am trying to get the swedish topaz over to my experia, and thats the problem for me, i dont get it how it works. have read and read but stil don get it. Hav tryed almost everything but stil no good..
I would suggest contact smaberg...he seems to have the swedish stuff worked out....
WC
Hi guys iv been trying out most of the ROMs on here on my new rhodium and i cant seem to find one that fits my needs, i just want a stock ROM such as the signed one with everything stripped out of it and no viual mods but something that will allow me to add custom clocks, taskbars and such things as in a cooked ROM, i know this isnt a possibility as everyone is out to try and prove themselves so i came to the conclusion that making my own from the stock signed or vodafone roms i have,
I have done some basic programming before albeit in visual studio which does write the code for you but i understand the basics of coding and debugging
I would like to ask for the most basic of basic tutorials or links that will get me started, i.e: You will need Visual Kitchen V3...... [Link] and you will need to have [this] rom and such
As im pretty sure i have most of the resources i just have no idea where to start, I'd really appreciate any help!
I'v been checking out the forum for quite a while and have learned a lot, love the work you guys are doing!
Thanks again!
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Im only trying to create a 6.1 ROM not interested in 6.5 due to the speed issues it has
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550028 may help, also Search is your friend
Gordon
MutantTractor said:
Hi guys iv been trying out most of the ROMs on here on my new rhodium and i cant seem to find one that fits my needs, i just want a stock ROM such as the signed one with everything stripped out of it and no viual mods but something that will allow me to add custom clocks, taskbars and such things as in a cooked ROM, i know this isnt a possibility as everyone is out to try and prove themselves so i came to the conclusion that making my own from the stock signed or vodafone roms i have,
I have done some basic programming before albeit in visual studio which does write the code for you but i understand the basics of coding and debugging
I would like to ask for the most basic of basic tutorials or links that will get me started, i.e: You will need Visual Kitchen V3...... [Link] and you will need to have [this] rom and such
As im pretty sure i have most of the resources i just have no idea where to start, I'd really appreciate any help!
I'v been checking out the forum for quite a while and have learned a lot, love the work you guys are doing!
Thanks again!
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Im only trying to create a 6.1 ROM not interested in 6.5 due to the speed issues it has
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Give me a day or two and my PRO Super D-Lite (just thought of name for my new lite ROM) will be out and you will love the speed of it even with 6.5. I have an early test build in my older thread if you want to try it but the final is coming very soon.
I felt the same way as you with 6.5 but this ROM has me loving 6.5 now
Cheers Gordon,
And thanks Atom ill keep an eye out for it man!
And that thread Gordon linked to is great just what i was looking for, i did search but to no avail multiple times )=
Just keep reading and searching, all the info is on this forum or the wiki pages somewhere...
Dave
Hi all,
i am looking for some headway ...
how can I get my hands on winmo 6.5 with nothing but the bare minimum.?
I have a official 6.5 rom, could i use that to strip out everything right down to the bare os and then build up from there ?
then how can i get my hands on Manila 2.5/6 and cook that into the rom? that is correct right? since the HTC Sense is a new thing not yet released/available??
i have been playing with ervius visual kitchen trying to have a look at the custom roms but i see that you cannot extract them so that is a no go ...
my ultimate goal is to build up a rom that has and fits only what i want from my phone.
thank you.
Should do some reading first. THIS is a great kitchen to start with!
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Should do some reading first. THIS is a great kitchen to start with!
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hi, thanx for the above, will give it a read ... looks great ...
i have read quite a few posts but they explain how to dump the roms and stuff but not great with details ... hence why i thought i could dump custom rom and see how it looks but that does not work...
I had a bash at PPC Kitchen but that does not seem to work either.
Thank you again.
Visual Kitchen can do some more stuff. There is a clear post in the Rhodium section where the user explains how to dump an original ROM. Don't have the URL but it's there
Good luck! And post your ROM on XDA of course
Still testing my WM6.1 ROM atm... ...hope it's good enough to release in about a week or so...
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Visual Kitchen can do some more stuff. There is a clear post in the Rhodium section where the user explains how to dump an original ROM. Don't have the URL but it's there
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i think i have read that one ...
ROM Modding Guide to Visual Kitchen
and
Visual Kitchen
my biggest confusion is how i can get my hands on the individual components... like having a clean stock rom and loading the tf3d/manila/sense on top of that with the rest of its programs.
did a quick search and came up with 2 nice ones.:
ready to cook kitchen
and then this one:
[REF|TUT] My first Rhodium ROM - Completed
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Good luck! And post your ROM on XDA of course
Still testing my WM6.1 ROM atm... ...hope it's good enough to release in about a week or so...
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i am still quite a end away from posting my own roms ... like i said there is stuff that i want and stuff i do not want ... so it will mostly be custom to my needs ... besides there are a good few great chefs, my personal favourite is Ark_N with his cooked roms.
Hello guys, i have question.
For example i can`t find a Explanations for new persons who wana cook a ROM.
I found some Kitchens but its not writen anything, and is very hard for peoples who are new in the cooking to understand anything.
For example.. some Short Thread and usefl explanation like.. You need to download a Kitchen then you need to find and download OEM, SYS etc etc the elements for cooking new ROM and then you begin start cooking.
Its so confused that i even can`t find the latest packages to use for the Blackstone.
So all the things are not so hard.. and if we have Thread with good exmplantation.. we can read it several times and to know what we doing exactly, not everybody is born like a cooker and i think that everyone who wana cook ROM`s in the future i mean NEW Cookers will be awesome we to have from where to read ALL IN ONE post.
If Some Cooker can make a STEP BY STEP Guide in one Thread this will be very usefull for all.
For example now i wana Cook a ROM but i don`t know How, because its full with Thread and how much you read them is more and more confused.
Thanks in advance
OK, will give some ideas how to start. I am a beginner, so here I will tell you, how I started.
Before you start cooking:
- download this kitchen, which already have all needed packages in(Windows Mobile [6.5.5][23529] Manila 2.5 and other stuff). If you want kitchen with no packages go in this thread and for different SYS packeges look at this thread
This kitchen is best choice for new cookers, because it contains explanation for each system package.
- Then, read this thread - it was really useful for me, at least in general terms.
- Also, in process of cooking you will want to change some registry, so, keep in ming, that you should look mainly at these two files, they are for general registry settings
user.hv & default.hv
I am using WinCE Registry Editor to open them.
Cooking in Process
1) Beginning
When you will open kitchen in the first time you will see something like this
Then you should choose all main options such as Device Model, SYS build and so on...(if you downloaded kitchen without packages, you should add them manually - look at the "Folders in the root of kitchen" part to find, where you should place all packages)
When you will finish it, go to System Packeges(core components in WM)
Also, you need to choose, which OEM and EXT packages you want in your ROM
If you want clean ROM, just uncheck EXT packages, which you don't need. But remember, unlike EXT many of the SYS and OEM packages are crucial and specific for each device.
Please also explain how to REMOVE things from the pakacke that i don`t like for example programs if i want to remove mp3 trimmer and will be the same for all other apps that we wana remove
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Well, as I said, in order to remove any program from ROM(for example MP3 Trimmer), you shoul remove its package from kitchen(simply uncheck it)
2) Folders in the root of kitchen
This is how base folder of my kitchen looks like.
CABs folder were created by manually(Oprional - you don't need to create it if you don't want). I am using this folder for all cabs, which I will convert in EXT packages in the future.
Flash folder is "the folder where cooked ROMs will be saved when the build process is complete" and also it have all necessary file for flashing.
Projects folder is folder where all your projects will be saved.
Resources folder contain "files and tools necessary for the kitchen to work, don't touch it!"
Sources folder contains all SYS, Kernels, etc. This is main folder, where you can change everything related to WM and its programs.
So, there is Sources subfolders:
-> EXT - there you can create folders and put your ext packages
-> MSXIPKernel - always create folder named as version and inside it place all MSXIPKernel files
-> NK - native kernels, create there folder for your device (names in first post). Learn more about this folder in the kitchen tutorial.
-> OEM - Here create just as with NK your device-named folder and place in it OEM files
-> ROM - There also create device-named folder and place in it romhdr.bin, os.nb.payload and folder XIP with MSXIPKernelLtk and OEMXIPKernel without nk.exe!!
-> Stuff - just some stuff for devices, you can't do anything there, don't touch it
-> SYS - There create version-named directories. In them are supposed to be few more directories:
->-> All - There goes DPI and RES related stuff, but NO LANGS!
->-> Common - There place all nonDPI, nonRES, nonLANG related files, just main binaries etc
->-> <lang code> - here goes all langs, like 0405, 0409, 0C0A etc
This was partly copied from kitchen manual, so if you want, you can read more about structure of these folders in this manual.
3) Import CABs, OEM and SYS packages to EXT
One of the main part of cooking process is adding programs in the kitchen.
You can do it in two ways - using program tools or copying in the EXT folder whatever you want.
Here, I will explain easiest way of how to do it by using program tools.
First of all, go to "Convert"
then choose option, for example "From CAB to EXT", fill all blank spaces
and you will see, that your packages will be added in the ROM
That's all! Then, when you will finish, just press "Start cooking" and waiting for results
I hope it was clear enough. If you have any question - post it in this thread or PM, I will try to answer.
Thanks for the Help, now i will explain you what i want exactly!!!
Why i want to cook a ROM
So i already have few Favorite ROM`s they are cool but they can be even more better, and clear.
For example i can`t dupm the ROM`s i love because they are protected etc.
So i like the Builds from Branch COM 2 now the latest one is 21893 i like them most because they are Fast and Stable, I just want to Have one Clear WM 6.5 Build ROM with Manila 2.1.19.21
What i mean by clear is ... all the ROM`s have alot of apps and things that im not using and never will use on the future, so this apps that are coocked just eat from my device memory. Also i want the default stock Task bar icons.. because if i want to costumize them i can do all this with Theme just to install a cab.
This is only the reason why i wana cook a ROM if you have any idea also HOW i can edit a ROM for example this my FAVORITE ROM witch is NBH file just to OPen it extract is somewhay and to remove all apps i want and to do some minorr changes and again to make it a nbh file will be awesome i mean that in this way i will not have need to cook a brand new ROM.
tsalta said:
Thanks for the Help, now i will explain you what i want exactly!!!
Why i want to cook a ROM
So i already have few Favorite ROM`s they are cool but they can be even more better, and clear.
For example i can`t dupm the ROM`s i love because they are protected etc.
So i like the Builds from Branch COM 2 now the latest one is 21893 i like them most because they are Fast and Stable, I just want to Have one Clear WM 6.5 Build ROM with Manila 2.1.19.21
What i mean by clear is ... all the ROM`s have alot of apps and things that im not using and never will use on the future, so this apps that are coocked just eat from my device memory. Also i want the default stock Task bar icons.. because if i want to costumize them i can do all this with Theme just to install a cab.
This is only the reason why i wana cook a ROM if you have any idea also HOW i can edit a ROM for example this my FAVORITE ROM witch is NBH file just to OPen it extract is somewhay and to remove all apps i want and to do some minorr changes and again to make it a nbh file will be awesome i mean that in this way i will not have need to cook a brand new ROM.
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Wait, let me finish my post first. It take some time. Then I will answer on your questions.
tsalta said:
Thanks for the Help, now i will explain you what i want exactly!!!
Why i want to cook a ROM
So i already have few Favorite ROM`s they are cool but they can be even more better, and clear.
For example i can`t dupm the ROM`s i love because they are protected etc.
So i like the Builds from Branch COM 2 now the latest one is 21893 i like them most because they are Fast and Stable, I just want to Have one Clear WM 6.5 Build ROM with Manila 2.1.19.21
What i mean by clear is ... all the ROM`s have alot of apps and things that im not using and never will use on the future, so this apps that are coocked just eat from my device memory. Also i want the default stock Task bar icons.. because if i want to costumize them i can do all this with Theme just to install a cab.
This is only the reason why i wana cook a ROM if you have any idea also HOW i can edit a ROM for example this my FAVORITE ROM witch is NBH file just to OPen it extract is somewhay and to remove all apps i want and to do some minorr changes and again to make it a nbh file will be awesome i mean that in this way i will not have need to cook a brand new ROM.
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correction 21895 is latest
miniterror said:
correction 21895 is latest
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Is this what i need? : http://joojoobee666.ppckitchen.org/Kitchens/21895/
I download SYS_21895_192DPI_0409
SYS_21895_Common.rar
SYS_21895_XIP.rar
LOL LOL LOL
Aliff this will be a GREAT TUT MAN I LOVE YOU.. if you do all the things like this after this THREAD is finished almost everyone will be able to cook a ROM
Thank you i will wait when you finish with the TUT and will Start READ step by step to don`t miss anything.
Please also explain how to REMOVE things from the pakacke that i don`t like for example programs if i want to remove mp3 trimmer and will be the same for all other apps that we wana remove
Okay if I understand you right the SYS Package is that for the Build and if i want diferent Build i just need to change the SYS the OEM is the Base and i can use now this OEM that is inclused in the Kitchen or i can Update this too? For example i download now the latest I download
SYS_21895_192DPI_0409 --- I understand that 192DPI is for our Blackstones 0409 mean WWE
SYS_21895_Common.rar
SYS_21895_XIP.rar
So i only need this components tocreate a new 21895 based rom and i can use the OEM that is on the Kitchen or i must change it too?
Testing method
thanks for the tutorial, i myself has been wanting to create my own ROM but dont really know where to begin...
1 thing that i would like to ask, is there a way to test the ROM without actually flashing it to the device? well, you know a newbie in cooking, can result in undesirable result if not properly done, and dont really want to brick my device (touchwood)...
KayK said:
thanks for the tutorial, i myself has been wanting to create my own ROM but dont really know where to begin...
1 thing that i would like to ask, is there a way to test the ROM without actually flashing it to the device? well, you know a newbie in cooking, can result in undesirable result if not properly done, and dont really want to brick my device (touchwood)...
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Same question over here!
aliff thank you for this..... I've been looking for something like this for ages...
It answers a lot of my questions that I had and now I can begin with optimizing and cooking my own ROM...
KayK said:
thanks for the tutorial, i myself has been wanting to create my own ROM but dont really know where to begin...
1 thing that i would like to ask, is there a way to test the ROM without actually flashing it to the device? well, you know a newbie in cooking, can result in undesirable result if not properly done, and dont really want to brick my device (touchwood)...
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Same question over here!
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Nothing like that exists that I am aware off. BTW you will have to make it really terrible to brick your device with a bad ROM.
Cooking means, altering stuff, cooking, flashing, f'ing up, alter some more stuff, cook, flash and so on.. There is no easier way to test unfortunally.
Yeah, thanks.
It's not probable that I'd cook my own ROM, but you never know...
This thread is Awesome!!
I had the same problem just like anyone else.....
You just don't know where to start and where to get the sys builds etc.
Is there a moderator who thinks this is usefull? please make it sticky
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This thread is Awesome!!
I had the same problem just like anyone else.....
You just don't know where to start and where to get the sys builds etc.
Is there a moderator who thinks this is usefull? please make it sticky
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There is already a thread with the same purpose stickied.. It's sparkies kitchen, you can download the latest builds there. Also this forum has a nice search function, search for stuff. Questions you can always ask in sparkies thread (which also links to an awesome tutorial by KWBR).
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There is already a thread with the same purpose stickied..
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I didn't find this thread, that why I described how I started.
EpiphanyNL said:
It's sparkies kitchen, you can download the latest builds there. Also this forum has a nice search function, search for stuff. Questions you can always ask in sparkies thread (which also links to an awesome tutorial by KWBR).
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Yes, this thread can really help with many questions about ROM making.
About KWBR Cooking tutorial - they were posted in this thread, but it currently empty.
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I didn't find this thread, that why I described how I started.
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Oh no? It's sparkies kitchen thread and ofcourse it's ok to describe it, but I dont think this thread should be stickied, maybe linked to in sparkies thread. Since there are more then one types of kitchen
aliff said:
Yes, this thread can really help with many questions about ROM making.
About KWBR Cooking tutorial - they were posted in this thread, but it currently empty.
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Oh maybe that has to do with KWBR being away for some time
Can anyone give me the sources from where to download the Packages i need? I google few hours and don`t find this things that im looking for.
I download SYS 21895 but i need EXT packages that include the latest 2.1.19.21 Sense Manila
Also from where can download this Manila CFC Compressed etc?
ALso if someone point me from where to get the latest Upto Date OEM packs will be cool.
I want to try to cook Blackstone WWE WM 6.5 ROM build 21895 with Manila 2.1.19.21 also with the latest Up To Date APPS etc
tsalta said:
Can anyone give me the sources from where to download the Packages i need? I google few hours and don`t find this things that im looking for.
I download SYS 21895 but i need EXT packages that include the latest 2.1.19.21 Sense Manila
Also from where can download this Manila CFC Compressed etc?
ALso if someone point me from where to get the latest Upto Date OEM packs will be cool.
I want to try to cook Blackstone WWE WM 6.5 ROM build 21895 with Manila 2.1.19.21 also with the latest Up To Date APPS etc
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You can find the latest Manila here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/Shipped_Roms
The CFC application:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470798
latest Up to Date apps can be found in sparkies thread, Tmob Leo 2.10 ext packages
Does anyone know if it's possible to cook using Linux via WINE? I'm thinking it should be as there is no actual activesync required.
Wouldn't mind 'trying' to put together a 6.1 ROM
Excellent tutorial stuff
Question time:
I made myself a 23544 rom and cooked it with no ext packages at all. It flashed and booted fine, so I added all of the Leo 2.10 packages - nothing else. Now it boots to a white screen. I'm guessing there are some incompatible packages for the HD2, or I'm missing some dependencies for the HD. Anybody know what these are?