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Hey everyone, there is an overclocking app in the market, anyone care to give it a try?
Edit: So I downloaded it lol. Here are some screenshots. BTW, is there anyway I can verify that the cpu freq is actually being adjusted?
*Just for fun I ran neocore to see if it would raise my FPS. lol.
just notice the difference in speed. If you notice please post. And its not overclocking its just clocking. Overclocking will be beyond 528 MHz
Gameloft said:
just notice the difference in speed. If you notice please post. And its not overclocking its just clocking. Overclocking will be beyond 528 MHz
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The app is called Overclock, you can argue with the developer about the name not me.
Anyways, I do notice a very nice speed increase.
For example, atrackdog would take me at least 20-30 seconds to load my full app list (184 apps)
After installing overclock, it loaded in under 5 seconds.
i'll run other programs, and post my results.
I ran droidgear (game gear emulator) before and after, and I can honestly say it was faster (not a placebo affect).
-Before: droidgear would take over 4 minutes just to get to the menu screen
-After: i was actually able to load a game in under 1 and a half minutes, I even let it sit to run the demo, and it is the fastest ive ever seen an emulator run on this device (compared to NesEmu, and GB emu)
It would probably actually be playable if tweaks were made to the application codebase, and android Open GL stack.
Also, the camera loads instantly after pressing the camera button and via the icon in the home screen.
well, i was too, and then i downloaded it and said "aahh, what the hell, if i break mine, ill just take my wifes haha..." probably not the best of plans but i installed it anyway
sooo i havnt burnt up my phone yet, but here is my issue with the app, does the app only work untill you reboot your phone?
because when i reboot my phone, it goes back to the default speed according to the app
also, my phone tends to hang up (stuck on the apps screen, no buttons work, screen wont rotate, power button wont shut screen off) when using the 528MHz
so far, i havnt found a reason to pay a dollar for it, but ill keep testing
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resolution for all below tests is 320 x 480
i tried neocore like posted above, using the mid level setting, and i actually did raise my fps from
DEFAULT CPU (248 MHz): 20.5 (with sound off)
384 MHz: 25.0! (with sound off)
DEFAULT CPU (248 MHz): 14.5 (with sound on)
384 MHz: 20.8 (with sound on)
still havnt gotten the fast speed to work yet, but im still trying to figure that out, on another note, sweeter home does seem to load a little faster
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Incase you didnt see my sig, im not running on a ADP1 phone, so that might by why the fastest setting doesnt work for me, but so far 384MHz is making a noticeable difference with NEOCORE and SWEETER HOME
andonnguyen said:
The app is called Overclock, you can argue with the developer about the name not me.
Anyways, I do notice a very nice speed increase.
Also, the camera loads instantly after pressing the camera button and via the icon in the home screen.
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i use snap photo, which used to take FOREVER to load up on my g1 using the camera button, its significantly faster using the 384MHz setting, good observation
Ok, so so far here is a list of things ive noticed (using 384MHz vs 248MHz):
-FPS in NEOCORE increased on adverage 5 to 6 fps
-Sweeter Home doesnt lag NEARLY as much as it used to (ALOT less force closes)
-Snap Photo doesnt take a month to load using the camera button
-G1 Wakes up properly which was a issue my g1 (and others on this forum) had
-Even though the app says it will "kill" the battery, using 384MHz during normal use of the phone isnt "killing" my battery, however, doom (while runs better (even with sound on)) seems to be dropping my battery level faster, but the game is running faster, which is the trade off id expect when running these apps together
At this point is there really a need? My phone doesnt lag that much that I need to over clock not to mention my battery life sucks already.
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At this point is there really a need? My phone doesnt lag that much that I need to over clock not to mention my battery life sucks already.
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all of our battery life sucks unless you have the extended battery, im not getting THAT big of a battery drain according to the system monitor app, and it DOES make a difference on g1's that have lag issues (running tons of apps like i do)
in other threads, people have complained about the g1 not waking up quickly sometimes, ive yet to have that issue since ive clocked mine up to the 384MHz setting
@woot, you do know that the default cpu freq on the G1 is ~384mHz. So you might want to change in your sig that you're overclocked to 384mHz lol.
The program installs a script on your sd card called ocx_tmp.sh and adjusts it that way, it'll write to /system as -rw (from what I've discussed with someone) would probably cause instability.
The program will reset the cpu freq back down to 384mHz after the phone sleeps. You can verify this in terminal emulator by typing:
$su
#cat /proc/cpuinfo
Try it before and after setting the cpu freq in overclock and you'll see what I mean =)
I thought the the CPU ran at 528 MHz by default? Or is it clocked dynamically and this forces it?
Gameloft said:
just notice the difference in speed. If you notice please post. And its not overclocking its just clocking. Overclocking will be beyond 528 MHz
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@woot, you do know that the default cpu freq on the G1 is ~384mHz. So you might want to change in your sig that you're overclocked to 384mHz lol.
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im not as familiar with clocking/overclocking so i wasnt sure if i was clocking it to 384, overclocking it to 384, or what, so what would be the proper thing to put in my sig? lol because according to my first quote, true overclocking wouldnt be untill i went beyond 528, so from the view of my first quote, im not OVERclocking, im clocking, wheras your saying im overclocked
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The program will reset the cpu freq back down to 384mHz after the phone sleeps. You can verify this in terminal emulator by typing:
$su
#cat /proc/cpuinfo
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so is it infact the program thats changing the cpu freq or is it the phone? if its the program, is this to avoid overworking the cpu without the demand?
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The program will reset the cpu freq back down to 384mHz after the phone sleeps.
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by sleep do you mean turning the screen off using the power button? because i saw no change in my cpu freq when doing so using your commands
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I thought the the CPU ran at 528 MHz by default? Or is it clocked dynamically and this forces it?
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dont know, but i found this over at the android community:
Technical Features
Supports WCDMA/HSUPA and EGPRS networks
Multimedia Broadcasting Multicast Service (MBMS)
Integrated ARM11™ applications processor and ARM9™ modem
QDSP4000™ and QDSP5000™ high-performance digital signal processors (DSP)
528 MHz ARM11 Jazelle™ Java® hardware acceleration
Support for BREW® and Java applications
Qcamera™: Up to 6.0 megapixel digital images
Qtv™: Playback up to 30 fps VGA
Qcamcorder™: Record up to 24 fps QVGA
Up to 4 million triangles per second, and 133 million depth-tested, textured 3D pixels per second fill rate
gpsOne® position-location assisted-GPS (A-GPS) solution
Support for third-party operating systems
Digital audio support for MP3, aacPlus™ and Enhanced aacPlus
Integrated Mobile Digital Display Interface (MDDI), Bluetooth® 1.2 baseband processor and Wi-Fi® support
maybe that info will help? if not sorry
I remember reading somewhere by someone that it runs at 384 by default, and I think the post above confirms that...
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I thought the the CPU ran at 528 MHz by default? Or is it clocked dynamically and this forces it?
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no, it runs at 384 by default, and clocks down even lower in the idle loop.
i am curious how this program works, as the normal cpufreq interfaces are not compiled in the kernel.
i've been running my phone for several months now at 528mhz, at a fairly minimal detriment to battery life.
i did however notice that without modifying the idle loop, the amount of cpu frequency switches even while the phone is not sleeping drops your average clock within a 10 second period to somewhere closer to 400mhz.
after modifying the idle loop to not switch frequency so often, i was able to get 27.4fps out of neocore w/o sound, and 22.7fps w/ sound.
my overall caffeine benchmark score was 582.
battery life impact is there, but fairly small. phone lasts for about a day and a half now where it used to last for sometimes 2. under heavy use, this is of course dramatically reduced.
gui fluidity is definitely increased, and sluggishness between app switches and when the translucent app drawer opens up is gone. i like it, but to the average person there probably is no need to do it.
keep in mind this is also not overclocking the cpu, it's clocking it to its default spec. as it is an embedded arm, it is designed to run hot, so i guarantee you are in no danger of hurting your phone.
also, do not listen to people that claim there could be no gain from overclocking, just because the bus speed is slower than the cpu speed does NOT mean there will be no improvement in system performance. if that were the case, there'd be no use for 4ghz desktop processors.
cache still runs full speed, and common execution paths stay in cache meaning no prefetch from system memory, meaning BIG improvement in many cases. (that's why cache exists.)
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no, it runs at 384 by default, and clocks down even lower in the idle loop.
i am curious how this program works, as the normal cpufreq interfaces are not compiled in the kernel.
i've been running my phone for several months now at 528mhz, at a fairly minimal detriment to battery life.
i did however notice that without modifying the idle loop, the amount of cpu frequency switches even while the phone is not sleeping drops your average clock within a 10 second period to somewhere closer to 400mhz.
after modifying the idle loop to not switch frequency so often, i was able to get 27.4fps out of neocore w/o sound, and 22.7fps w/ sound.
gui fluidity and responsiveness is greatly improved. sluggishness if app switching and the translucent app drawer are completely gone.
for many i imagine this means there isn't really any reason to clock the cpu up to its stock speed, but to each their own.
my overall caffeine benchmark score was 582.
battery life impact is there, but fairly small. phone lasts for about a day and a half now where it used to last for sometimes 2. under heavy use, this is of course dramatically reduced.
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care to write up a how-to for getting the 582 consistantly and changing the idle loop?
Holy crap. Used this @528MHz with Haykuro's version 4.5 apps to sd ROM and the osk works SO MUCH BETTER!!!! Also I got 25.6 fps on neocore... very smooth
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care to write up a how-to for getting the 582 consistantly and changing the idle loop?
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writeup? no. it's a big process involving the android dev environment, a modified version of mkbootimg and unyaffs.
i will gladly post the kernel modifications for those who want to recompile the kernel to do so.
the bootloader sets the clock speed, and the idle loop simply clocks down to a preset and back up to whatever it was previously after x milliseconds of inactivity (not to be confused with sleep) it's kind of a poor man's cpufreq arbitrator.
so on top of tweaking the idle loop to not drop down as often, you also have to explicitly set the frequency in the kernel upon bootup, or it will bet set at what it thinks is full speed, which is 384.
A modded version of JF's ROM would ROM.
I DO notice the sluggishness and it bugs the heck out of me. (I switched from a WING with a 200MHz CPU, and although it IS faster than the wing, it doesn't seem significantly faster and seems to much slower when I open up the camera...
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writeup? no. it's a big process involving the android dev environment, a modified version of mkbootimg and unyaffs.
i will gladly post the kernel modifications for those who want to recompile the kernel to do so.
the bootloader sets the clock speed, and the idle loop simply clocks down to a preset and back up to whatever it was previously after x milliseconds of inactivity (not to be confused with sleep) it's kind of a poor man's cpufreq arbitrator.
so on top of tweaking the idle loop to not drop down as often, you also have to explicitly set the frequency in the kernel upon bootup, or it will bet set at what it thinks is full speed, which is 384.
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that involved eh?
thanks for this post though, now i understand more about the idle loop and why the cpu freq resets with each reboot
maybe someone can take this stuff further like he said, that kind of stuff would be worth the dollar, imo more than a dollar
well... i don't mind providing basic procedure and source, i just don't want to get dragged into level 1 support of the procedure.
i'll go ahead and package up some source, prebuilt boot images based on JF's RC33 (which is what i run) and a basic procedure.
OK...so MUCH THANKS to Mr. Carlisle for gettin me all squared away with rooting my Hero and upgrading to Froyo 2.2. All back ups complete, apps downloaded and only major bug thus far is the camera...SO....why is my battery running at 105 degrees on average? What should the normal range be? I turn it on @ 6 am after charging to 100% and wiping battery stats and ten hours later recharge it to 100% (Currently @ 50%) and all day the temp has been between 103 and 105. whycome? HELP!
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OK...so MUCH THANKS to Mr. Carlisle for gettin me all squared away with rooting my Hero and upgrading to Froyo 2.2. All back ups complete, apps downloaded and only major bug thus far is the camera...SO....why is my battery running at 105 degrees on average? What should the normal range be? I turn it on @ 6 am after charging to 100% and wiping battery stats and ten hours later recharge it to 100% (Currently @ 50%) and all day the temp has been between 103 and 105. whycome? HELP!
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Because on FRF91 on Cyanogen mod (which i assume you are using) is overclocked to 710 mhz, where the hero's processor runs at 528 normally. My suggestion is to download an app called overclock widget from the market, (Obviously, it's a widget and you'll have to add it to your homescreen) and set the minimum and maximum clock (processor) speed to 240mhz(min) and 518mhz [or 534, if you want to, but it won't make much difference] (max).
You can set the max (or minimum) clock speed to be more or less. Lower clock(processor) speed=More lag but better battery life, and potential to freeze your hero because the processor can't operate the system fast enough. Higher clock(processor) speed= Faster and less lag but less battery life and can damage your touch screen (It's happened to me). if you leave it at too high a clock speed for too long, and can also freeze your phone because your processor can't operate at that speed and crashes your phone.
It's up to you if you want to overclock or not, but you should keep it resonable, and if you have heavy phone usage, don't go much further than 613 mhz for your max. There is also another program called set cpu that is avalible for free for xda members, but is a paid app on the market. Using that, you can set your frequencies to the default hero processor, or of other phones. But overclocking over 710mhz could do some harm to your phone, so be careful.
If you say, "I wonder if this will damage my phone," then don't take the chance without asking around first.
If you have any more questions about overclock, pm me, and I can help you out.
That temperature range, ~40C is completely normal when charging and using at the same time (with me, anyway). I'm OC'ed to 710 and using undervolt, too. The highest I've ever seen mine go is 43C, or about 109F. I don't really know where the "danger zone" is, but if I had to guess it would be around 48C or higher.
Edit: I reread your post, and do you mean it's at 40C always, even when it's sitting doing nothing? If that's the case then follow Ryoma Echizen's advice and fine-tune your CPU speed.
I've done numerous tests with and without OC and on different kernels (both normal and custom). So far SetCPU have only given me headaches. Random crashes, unable to wakeup, kernel panics... The list goes on.
According to these tests I've come to the conclusion that SetCPU is very unstable on Galaxy S and should not be considered supported at all.
What's your experience with SetCPU on Galaxy S? Is it conclusive with mine? Do you experience the same problems with Overclock Widget, or is it more stable?
after using setcpu for a few weeks and getting similar problems, i removed it.
There is pretty much no use in it for this phone, they allready scale from 100mhz - max speed (even oc if you have one) automatically
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I've done numerous tests with and without OC and on different kernels (both normal and custom). So far SetCPU have only given me headaches. Random crashes, unable to wakeup, kernel panics... The list goes on.
According to these tests I've come to the conclusion that SetCPU is very unstable on Galaxy S and should not be considered supported at all.
What's your experience with SetCPU on Galaxy S? Is it conclusive with mine? Do you experience the same problems with Overclock Widget, or is it more stable?
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Are you using a task manager? I had the same problem as you until I removed the auto task killer I had previously installed. Now I can set setcpu to 100000 min 1000000 max ondemand for main with a profile of screen off 100000 min 1000000 max conservative.
mekwall said:
I've done numerous tests with and without OC and on different kernels (both normal and custom). So far SetCPU have only given me headaches. Random crashes, unable to wakeup, kernel panics... The list goes on.
According to these tests I've come to the conclusion that SetCPU is very unstable on Galaxy S and should not be considered supported at all.
What's your experience with SetCPU on Galaxy S? Is it conclusive with mine? Do you experience the same problems with Overclock Widget, or is it more stable?
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Yes. I have the same problem on my stock SGS.
Setcpu is not working good on sgs. Try to remove it, and you'll get better battery life.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
I don't know of anyone who has tested it on the I9000 (and there may even be alternatives or the same thing floating around the development subforum), but they claim to have a 1.2ghz overclocked kernel here for the I9000. Maybe best to be avoided, but a 100% use at your own risk alternative, especially if you're a bit unsure on any of the translated steps, is available here.
http://translate.google.com/transla.../matpclub.com/board/index.html?id=tipn&no=144
been using it on a vibrant for about 10 days and had my first issue last nite - it froze the phone - had to remove battery to reboot, tried again, froze it again
i thought it was the last two apps i'd installed so i removed them, then there was an update, downloaded and installed, so i did a number of settngs changes, closing setcpu, running benchmark quad, reopening & changing settings etc
about half dozen times
and it's been fine so far -
I had the same issue. I would pull my phone out of my pocket and it wouldn't wake up. I could call my phone and it would ring but my phone would do nothing until I removed the battery and re-booted. This happened numerous times until I uninstalled SETCPU and it stopped doing that so I knew I found the culprit and haven't tried it again since (I need to receive calls as priority 1)
doesnt anyone search anymore i posted this issue over a month ago. setting cpu mode to anything on than conservative can cause freezes as the system doesnt get enough cpu to wake up.. it is even mentioned in set cpu to use conservative.
lgkahn said:
doesnt anyone search anymore i posted this issue over a month ago. setting cpu mode to anything on than conservative can cause freezes as the system doesnt get enough cpu to wake up.. it is even mentioned in set cpu to use conservative.
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I have it set to Conservative on my Vibrant, and I'm having the same issues as the OP.
Edit: When I go into SetCPU after pulling the battery and resetting, it shows it's limiting my CPU to 19.2 MHz. Yes, 19.2. Insane.
tt4079 said:
Are you using a task manager? I had the same problem as you until I removed the auto task killer I had previously installed. Now I can set setcpu to 100000 min 1000000 max ondemand for main with a profile of screen off 100000 min 1000000 max conservative.
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I killed my task manager service, and it didn't freeze up! I'm going to uninstall the task manager and see if I have any more freezing issues in the future.
Edit: Nope, didn't work. Removing SetCPU.
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What's your experience with SetCPU on Galaxy S?
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I have the Vibrant version with T-Mo. After rooting, Titanium, Barnacle and Root Explorer all seem to be working fine.
After a few minutes of installing SetCPU, my phone wouldn't wake up. Rebooted twice, same results.
Removed SetCPU and the phone's working fine again. Maybe the minimum speed should be set at 250 or so?
George
To begin with, you don't even need SetCPU
SGS phone automatically regulates the speed of the CPU depending on your usage.
most of the time in Stock ROM it hover around 200 Mhz, very few times it uses the max 1000 Mhz
only when there are lots of background apps running
when you runt he CPU at 1000 Mhz it gets hot fast, and it consumes more battery
good thing is it drops back down to 100~200 Mhz as soon as it's done with the heavy tasks
so having the SetCPU installed will defeat the whole purpose of power saving and CPU cycle on demand
mekwall said:
I've done numerous tests with and without OC and on different kernels (both normal and custom). So far SetCPU have only given me headaches. Random crashes, unable to wakeup, kernel panics... The list goes on.
According to these tests I've come to the conclusion that SetCPU is very unstable on Galaxy S and should not be considered supported at all.
What's your experience with SetCPU on Galaxy S? Is it conclusive with mine? Do you experience the same problems with Overclock Widget, or is it more stable?
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I don't even remember the last time where we had a fixed clock on a cpu Allgamer. The point of setcpu is to either downclock or overclock your cpu. You might want to limit your clock to 0.6GHz just to save some juice.
Anyway, after a few hours of head scratching and 2 reboots, I uninstalled and refunded it.
I agree. Setcpu is rather unstable. I have feeling lots of the kernel overclockers have problems but blame the kernel while they should blame setcpu
i have just installed setcpu. it's probably been about a day or so now and i have not experienced any problems?
i have an Australian model (I9000) just flashed to the canadian firmware for the 3br fix.
Is it just generally not recommended to use setcpu on my SGS?
please advise. Thanks
toansta said:
i have just installed setcpu. it's probably been about a day or so now and i have not experienced any problems?
i have an Australian model (I9000) just flashed to the canadian firmware for the 3br fix.
Is it just generally not recommended to use setcpu on my SGS?
please advise. Thanks
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It depends on what you're using it for. If you know what you're doing, it can be a useful tool. If you want to overclock, you'll want setcpu. If you want to underclock (lets say you're out and about, with 40% battery), then you can set the maximum cpu speed lower so that the battery will last longer.
You don't need setcpu if you're simply going to tell it that you want your max speed to be 1ghz, with a min of 100mhz and you want it to be "conservative". Your phone does that by default, and frankly the SGS is pretty good on its own when it comes to battery management.
thanks reuthermonkey, i will keep that in mind.
What are the perfect setcpu 2.0.3 settings for froyo JP6 I9000 rooted? Thanx in advance
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I have it set to Conservative on my Vibrant, and I'm having the same issues as the OP.
Edit: When I go into SetCPU after pulling the battery and resetting, it shows it's limiting my CPU to 19.2 MHz. Yes, 19.2. Insane.
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Menu and rescan the device should restore the normal values. those values are not the ones actually used!
So just inherited my dads OG Droid. Currently rooted and runs Steel Droid (Mod Version 9000) and 2.6.32.9_RZ Kernel.
Phone is overclocked to 1GHz (125/1000 ONDEMAND).
Like the title says, the phone gets about 5 hours and then hit's 5% and keeps asking me to charge. If I charge it overnight and unplug it when it's 100%, it'll hit 90% idling (while I sleep) about 3 hours later.
Running Programs:
DSPManager
Words Free
Facebook
3D Digital Weather Cloc
News & Weather
3G Watchdog
Videos
SoundHound
Pandora
Temp+CPU V2
Now out of all the running apps, Pandora, Soundhound, News & Weather, 3G Watchdog, Temp+CPU, 3D Digital Clock are all widgets. Temp+CPU and 3D Digital clock are the only ones that actually run, the rest are just there in case I want to use them.
These stats today are from using Pandora for about an hour over Wifi.
Any ideas? Phone runs fine most of the time but I have seen the occasional lag where you have to click something 10 times before it opens.
I used to have a pretty big problem with battery life too, but even though I think they are somewhat silly and annoying the Easy Battery Saver app helped me quite a bit.
Wifi and using the speakers are heavy on battery life. Not sure how much difference it will make but try consolidating your widgets and app shortcuts to as few screens as possible.
Also your CPU governor might be set to something that lets the phone hog through anything at the sacrifice of battery. When i set my CPU to Performance my phone runs like a boss, while setting it to battery saver I get a little more lag but more battery, obviously. Not sure how/if your ROM will let you change that but it's something to look into.
I got it set to On Demand which might be the issue. The kernel is a low voltage kernel. How do ultra low voltage kernels run?
I did a battery calibration, downloaded Advanced Task Killer (Battery saver didn't work well, I'd always have an issue with 3G not activating) and got rid of all my widgets. Currently charging it up completely, I'll check it out tomorrow.
So the title is incorrect, it says 5 hours and 5% left. I checked the battery info at 5%. It said 4hr 4x min. About 10 minutes later it shut off so I didn't even get 5 hours to a full charge.
I don't have high expectations but coming from an Alias 2 that had the extended battery (I'd get a week of battery with my use), this is pretty disappointing.
Well I can tell you now, ondemand is NOT good for battery, what that governor does is make it so the CPU will go from MIN to MAX speed slots depending on what the phone needs, AFAIK it doesn't scale with need, it just goes to max. So your phones CPU was running at max most the time which kills battery.
Can't say anything about your ROM, but I use simply stunning 5.6 http://www.droidforums.net/forum/chevyno1/177728-ss-5-6-2-3-7-incl-1-battery-other-goodies.html Which, with his low voltage 1ghz kernel set to the smartass governor, I get anywhere from 8-14 hours of battery life depending on use. Using ultra low voltage kernels depend on your phone, some phones have trouble overclocking to 800mhz mid-voltage (mid-voltage is considered to be the most stable, but use the most battery), others can overclock to 1.25ghz ultra-low voltage, which is very rare. I would say try out all the different voltage kernels and see which one works best with your phone.
Also task killer = MAJOR MAJOR No no! The task killer will kill the apps, and the android OS will restart them, using more CPU time and making the battery actually not last as long, I would recommend learning how to use the supercharger script http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Can't say much about the majority of programs you have running, but I've found facebook does not like to play nice with the Droid, also, why use the 3D clock when the Droid comes with a built in-clock app? Pandora uses a lot of battery, so running it w/ the ondemand governor is probably what hurt your battery there.
Not many Droid users left out there, but I was and still am an extremely avid Droid user, so if you have any more questions just shoot me a PM and I'll help as much as I can.
Thanks! I got rid of all my widgets and installed Chevy's ultra low voltage 1.1GHz kernel on smartass. I lost 20% battery pretty fast but let's see how long it runs. I've had no force close issues so far. I'm a bit tempted to go to 1.2GHz ulv.
How much does the ROM have to do with battery life? I really love this ROM and it's interface. I thought the battery life really only had to do with kernels.
I also got rid of the clock widget and put a default clock widget. What's the built in Android one? Is that the "Analog Clock"?
Sorry for all these questions, I'm pretty new to Android. Only had this for 2 days (~8-10 recharges...)
Its fine, better to question and learn then to just get mad and over it, and Roms have everything to do with battery, they are just like kernels, some work AMAZING on some phones, while others can destroy battery life.
Like my rom, I found the perfect one for my phone, I get 8- (been thinking about it more) 20 hours of battery life on mine and it has pretty amazing performance too with the occasional hiccup.
And I thought you had the clock app installed for an alarm, not for a widget, my bad. I don't use a clock widget so I wouldn't know.. Also, I've found its not very good to run many widgets on the Droid, as it has limited memory and can only handle so much.
Well I got sick of it and reflashed the entire ROM. CPU governer is set to ONDEMAND 125/1000. Only*widgets I have are a simple clock (like the iPhone lock screen) and power control. Gonna see how it goes. So far so good but I'm saying that because I didn't loose 20% overnight. If I can clear the day, I'm good.
googlelover, what CPU Governer did you find to work the best with your phone?
I have been an Android owner for a while now, with the Droid being my first. Until recently battery life had always been an issue for me. Undervolting has never had an effect over a 20% improvement. And this is only when it's in deep sleep. Otherwise, in very general terms, undervolting can require a higher current aka worse battery life if you use your phone a lot. With undervolting comes the risk of data corruption in your phones memory and SD Card. What really kills your phone is screen on time, wakelocks, CPU overclock, and signal quality.
The last you have no control of. But if you're overclocking 1GHz or higher you have to realize that's almost twice the manufactured clock speed. As far as wakelocks, this is when something keeps your phone from going into a low power state. This can happen because of a rogue app, a buggy ROM, or having too many widgets. I ran into a ROM a while ago on my Fascinate that would stay awake if you had GPS enabled. The best you can do with your display power usage is to keep your brightness down. Hope this explains a few things
have the same issue
core2kid said:
Well I got sick of it and reflashed the entire ROM. CPU governer is set to ONDEMAND 125/1000. Only*widgets I have are a simple clock (like the iPhone lock screen) and power control. Gonna see how it goes. So far so good but I'm saying that because I didn't loose 20% overnight. If I can clear the day, I'm good.
googlelover, what CPU Governer did you find to work the best with your phone?
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I already told you, the smartass governor, and like I said before, ondemand is not a good governor in my opinion. There are way to many factors in battery life to have anyone else be able to truly help you with it, all our phones are different and it really just takes time switching kernels, switching ROMs, etc to find what works with your phone
Sorry googlelover, I forgot you already said that.
So update guys. I've been going a day (so like 18 hours) of use after which it finally hits the 15% warning.
What I did:
Basically I reflashed the ROM and started from scratch. Before reflashing, I wiped the user data/cache/davick cache etc at least twice just to make sure it was really wiped.
I reflashed SteelDroid 9.0 with the default chevyno1 lv 1ghz kernel and gave it a go with just a simple clock widget. Worked well. One by one, I'm starting to install applications until I can figure out what was draining the battery fast. So far, so good. If I can get 18 hours on a 2 year old battery, I'm going to be doing fine with my extended battery.
One thing I did notice was that the phone back by the camera (where CPU is) isn't getting as hot as it used to. Makes me think that the phone was at a high clock speed in sleep. Another issue may have been my CPU temp/speed monitor. It was probably poling the CPU stats every second which made the phone increase the CPU speed because it sensed activity.
Try out the ROM I'm using. I absolutely love it. The interface is phenomenal and it runs very well.
htp://w w w . d r o i d f o r u m s . n e t /forum/steel-droid/148060-release-steel-droid-9-0-gingerbread-11-17-2011-a.html
(remove the spaces to see it, I wasn't able to post links normally because I don't have enough overall posts).
There's probably other ROMS that run better like the one googlelover is using, but I can't use the default Android interface anymore after using this.
core2kid said:
Sorry googlelover, I forgot you already said that.
So update guys. I've been going a day (so like 18 hours) of use after which it finally hits the 15% warning.
What I did:
Basically I reflashed the ROM and started from scratch. Before reflashing, I wiped the user data/cache/davick cache etc at least twice just to make sure it was really wiped.
I reflashed SteelDroid 9.0 with the default chevyno1 lv 1ghz kernel and gave it a go with just a simple clock widget. Worked well. One by one, I'm starting to install applications until I can figure out what was draining the battery fast. So far, so good. If I can get 18 hours on a 2 year old battery, I'm going to be doing fine with my extended battery.
One thing I did notice was that the phone back by the camera (where CPU is) isn't getting as hot as it used to. Makes me think that the phone was at a high clock speed in sleep. Another issue may have been my CPU temp/speed monitor. It was probably poling the CPU stats every second which made the phone increase the CPU speed because it sensed activity.
Try out the ROM I'm using. I absolutely love it. The interface is phenomenal and it runs very well.
htp://w w w . d r o i d f o r u m s . n e t /forum/steel-droid/148060-release-steel-droid-9-0-gingerbread-11-17-2011-a.html
(remove the spaces to see it, I wasn't able to post links normally because I don't have enough overall posts).
There's probably other ROMS that run better like the one googlelover is using, but I can't use the default Android interface anymore after using this.
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Don't forget not many roms have the default android interface, many have themes to completely change the look, if your happy where your phone is, great! But if you ever feel like your phone is slowing down again, I'd still recommend looking around and flashing some different roms.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I'm only using this phone for another couple months. I'll be getting the Droid 4 when it comes out. Looks like a really nice phone.
Hi,
first, I want to apologize for my bad english.
I have a problem with the clockingspeed of my HTC One.
I was impressed by how bad the battery life of the One is.
I found out, that the CPU is always clocking at 1,7Ghz, both values (Min AND Max) are set to 1.7 Ghz.
If I turn on the battery-safe option, it clocks at 1Ghz, but again on both values.
So, I have downloaded some CPU apps, which should let me change the clocking speed of the CPU.
Well, it works, but if I turn on "Set on boot", and reboot, the values are gone.
I thought, this would be caused by the stock ROM, so I have flashed the "InsertCoin" ROM, but no changes.
Has someone the same problem, or does someone has a solution for me?
regards.
The clock speed is dynamically controlled. When the phone is not in use, it should reduce the clock speed.
It sounds like you have an app that is preventing it from sleeping.
Install betterbatterystats and look for partial wakelocks. Feel free to leave a screenshot here.
Hi,
even if there is an app which would prevent my phone from clocking down, the MIN-value should be at 300/400mhz, and not be the same as the max-value ..
regards.
No idea..?
what hes saying is theres a rogue app mostly likely in the background thats pushing your phone that it thinks it should ramp up the speed of your phone. so even if you have it set to 384/1.7 the phone is detecting "oh **** *so and so* app is beastly bump the speed to max 1.7. bad analogy but you get the idea. i would start by wiping the phone install a brand new rom and DONT install anything just the mhz reader. then check. if your on a fully clean flash and still holding at max value all the time. then next is to check the CPU governor. it may have been set to performance at some point "accidentally" the performance governor forces the phone to hold at max speed. mostly only used for synthetic benchmarks.
Nope nope nope.
Nope.
I just had to S-Off my phone ..