[Q] [SERVICE MANUAL] Milestone/Droid A853/A855 - Motorola Droid and Milestone General

I've got a broken Micro-USB connector on my Motorola Milestone and i'm looking for a service/disassembly manual.
Anyone has one / know where to find one?
This is pretty much all that I can find: youtube.com/watch?v=dE81IaQHEHc
Pretty useful, but not 100% clear.
Thanks in advance.

I would like a copy of the service manual too.
This is the best disassembly guide I have found.
ifixit.com/Device/Motorola_Droid

HouseApe said:
I would like a copy of the service manual too.
This is the best disassembly guide I have found.
ifixit.com/Device/Motorola_Droid
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Oooh nice, thats verry usefull

Not that I'm against DIY repairs, but is there any reason why you aren't just warranty replacing the phone?
It's MUCH more reliable, and you don't have to get your hands dirty with solder and etc.

Xeronix said:
Not that I'm against DIY repairs, but is there any reason why you aren't just warranty replacing the phone?
It's MUCH more reliable, and you don't have to get your hands dirty with solder and etc.
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Well I have broken my USB connector: 2 of the pins have gone to far in to the phone and its now shorting out my power adapter.
I can't reach it using tweezers so I am hoping to disassemble the phone and push them back from the other side.
I did an inquiry to Motorola about this issue with my USB connector and this was they're reply:
We are sorry you are experiencing a fault with your Motorola phone and due to this we would like to suggest that you send your phone to our repair centre.
Please contact Servicom/Dynafix: 0900 396 23 49 www.dynafix.nl
If you wish you can arrange a repair via a web based system, you can use the Solid Vision repair service: www.gsmreparen.nl (070 307 31 07)
If they can not help you, please let us know.
Please be aware that this repair will be out of warranty repair, please be advised that a quotation and a handling charge will be applied.
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I did an inquiry to both firm's and the first one did reply they can't give any indication about the cost over the phone, the initial 'examination fee' is €37,40 (about $51) and you have to send your phone to them with insurance that another €8,60 (about $11) and if you THEN decide not to let it repair to them they charge for the return of the phone, so that makes a total of €46,- (about $63,-) just for them to take a look at it.
The second company responded to send an e-mail with my question but did not reply within 2 weeks, after some searching on they're website they charge a €29,75 'examination fee' + €13,95 return fee that adds up to about $72,- (for sending & returning)
Upon doing some research on the internet both company's have various issues with insanely high repair costs ($300+ for 2 year old phones), lost phones, long waiting time for repairs, claims that there was 'moist damage' so they can charge for the repair and poor customer service.
To make a long story short: if i can make a short guess and X = €10 (the cost of a new USB connector) the total cost would be:
Sending + Examination + Parts + Work cost + Return = Total
€8,60 + €37,40 + X + 1 hour (€40?) + €8,60? = €104,60 (~$144,-)
€8,60 + €29,75 + X + 1 hour (€40?) + €13,95 = €102,30 (~$141,-)
OR (an thats what I fear) if they were to replace the top part of the motherboard = €100,-? (~$140,-) that would add up to ~€200,- or almost $300,-
If anyone can give me a better price indication please let me know because I would like to have it repaired and still have further warranty.

The flimsy usb connector is a design defect. Motorola will replace the connector with a much sturdier one (no discrete pins) under warranty. One of the pins on my Droid 1 broke off; I got an RMA, sent to phone to a repair depot, and received the same phone back with a brand new connector. And I managed not to go into convulsions while waiting (3-5 day turnaround). NB: My phone was not rooted.

noloolon said:
The flimsy usb connector is a design defect. Motorola will replace the connector with a much sturdier one (no discrete pins) under warranty. One of the pins on my Droid 1 broke off; I got an RMA, sent to phone to a repair depot, and received the same phone back with a brand new connector. And I managed not to go into convulsions while waiting (3-5 day turnaround). NB: My phone was not rooted.
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Thanks for your reply, it thought it was just me that had that issue, USB connector was not connecting properly just a few months after I purchased it (had to do the old 'pen under the USB cable trick' to get it to charge)
Also you touch a good point, mine has a different firmware and is rooted (and there is no way to change it back because I can't charge it) I heard they check it and don't repair anything under warranty because of unofficial software.
(or send you a bill afterwards)

hellbringer82 said:
Thanks for your reply, it thought it was just me that had that issue, USB connector was not connecting properly just a few months after I purchased it (had to do the old 'pen under the USB cable trick' to get it to charge)
Also you touch a good point, mine has a different firmware and is rooted (and there is no way to change it back because I can't charge it) I heard they check it and don't repair anything under warranty because of unofficial software.
(or send you a bill afterwards)
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AFAIK, Motorola won't repair any rooted phone under warranty. I'm afraid you're looking at a large repair bill that makes simply buying a new phone an attractive proposition. It's a shame because the Droid 1 and others with the original usb connector appear to have been rushed out the door without sufficient testing. A discrete pin connector in a flimsy D-shell on a device vulnerable to damage is a really stupid design decision. A proper connector costs little more in manufacturing quantities.
BTW, my phone was returned to me in as-new condition with the latest iteration of froyo installed.

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Tilt USB port damaged..

Frat.. My fully upgraded Tilt (Dutty Rom 6) got its USB port damaged while I accidentally poked the stylus in there instead of the reset hole.
...now it won't sync with my pc however does charge only when I plug in the dedicated wall charger into it. So, on visual inspection, I saw the 5 pins (thats how many they seem) with last two next to the reset hole "misaligned".
I've tried poking a needle and trying to straighten it back into place but didn't work and I gave up fearing further damage to the port.
basically, I called At&t and they are mailing me a replacement device but now I'm not sure if I would need to re-flash the original AT&T rom back before returning.... anyone have any experience in the returns field? The cust serv rep "read" me a disclaimer (felt like hearing my rights by a cop!) stating that if they find any liquid or other damage to the phone then I may be charged $497.00 for it as it would be considered as warranty voided.
So, no mention of any s/w changes in the disclaimer she read to me also resulting in the same. But I surely don't want to take a chance therefore am humbly asking for some input from someone who may have experience similar situation?!!
Reading the "Tilt re-flash due to not voiding warranty if having to return" sticky-thread's all 14 pages did not give me even a single post where anyone can confirm if at&t will indeed consider messing up with the s/w as voiding warranty.... unless ofcourse I'm blind..(has happened once in a while).
I've also searched on this and have not found any posts.. again, I'm mentioning this so that the mods and/or others won't burn me for not doing my homework.
Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
Sane said:
Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
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Well.. I'm trying to avoid flashing the stock rom altogether. As I've noticed almost every 2nd post on the stock-rom-flashing-for-warranty sticky not having a smooth run while returning the phone to its original state.
besides.. what do you mean by "then wait and see if they void your warranty?"..
Thats exactly what I'm trying to avoid in the first place as once I mail the unit back I will have no control on the outcome unless ofcourse either someone confirms that not reverting back to the stock rom won't cause a $500 hole in my pocket or otherwise, in which case I'll have to re-flash it.
If you've flashed a different ROM then they will know and they will say you caused the damage and charge the full price for it.
they might charge you full price anyway because the usb port is damaged. it might just be easier to fix the port urself...
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
AWESOME!!
PsyOpWarlord said:
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
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Thanks a million for the site. I had no idea that a service like that existed and that too specifically addressing my exact issue. I'm gonna keep it bookmarked for future.
Fortunately, I was able to stick a needle in one of the pins and push them up and then have it held there with a dab of super glue. So far, its working like a charm but if it ever fails again I'll go the above route.
This is awesome.. I was very concerned in having to receive the replacement unit as with experience of having used several pda phones over the years I've learned that the refurb units that the warranty replacement give you is got a good 50-50 chance of having some kind of hw or sw flaw.. so... I'm glad to have kept my phone.
Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
tjenus said:
Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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Hi tjenus,
You mean you brought the faulty tilt, together with the original accessories it came with, to the store and they replaced your set for a brand new, retail version, of the tilt?
What else was required, the receipt or anything?
Thanks!
Gerald
tjenus said:
Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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I call BS after being a AT-T customer for years I know for a fact they don't swap out phones even at corp... Stores they tell you to call in and have a warrenty replacment shipped to you. Thats just how it works UNLESS your withen the 14 day grace period then they would probably do it. The reason they do this according to AT-T is they don't have enough stock in each store to do swap outs. You best bet is to call AT-T and have them ship you a new one and flash abck to the origanl rom they don't check the SPL version what so ever they just look if it has water damage and any other visable signs of abuse.
I returned mine
I had this same thing happen. The USB failed to work after I dropped my phone. So seeing how I could not reflash it, I ran out all the power on it, until it had nothing....it would not even boot. With all the battery drained, I knew that even if they plugged it in, they would not see I had flashed the rom....though they could have used a new battery. I took it in, and told the local ATT reseller that the USB stopped working. It was within 30days of purchase. They took it back and exchanged it no questions asked. They didnt even test it. Now, i just wont drop my new one, lol.
Good luck.
Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
Cheers
hah. did this too.. called at&t and had them warranty exchange it. i just bent it back around with the stylus enough that it would work so that could revert back so i could send it back. havent heard anything from them.. so im assuming there not gonna charge me
aquanaut88 said:
Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
Cheers
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i own a tytn 2 in the usa and got the same from htc. my usb got messed up a little on its own than i stuck the stencil in there and it barely worked(had to wiggle it) anyways i found a repair center but they didnt have parts. ordered the parts from ppc techs and they sent me a different connector. its the same one in the sprint mogul which i think is a better build. so they replaced it and everything is perfect with the charging now but they did something with my hinge. its off a little. can anyone point me in the right direction to take my phone apart so i can fiddle with the hinge? any help is greatly appreciated
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
ramnan said:
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
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Not unless you are the original one that bought it from AT-T they will say sorry buddy !! you could try but I would save my breath
Hi
I had the same Issue - but it was fixed inside warranty!
But I was runing "original" rom.
But the somehow made the "reset" button work strange now - So it will go back once more.
BR
Daniel
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362679

USB Port Broke How to fix

Wow I am wanting to replace my usb miniport myself I have the AT&T Tilt 8925/HTC Kaiser. The other day I was trying to reset the phone In the Dark thought that I was pressing the reset button on the bottom of the phone, what was happening I had my styles in the usb port DAM IT!!!! Next thing you know I go to charge and the USB port just falls back I then open the unit, and find the usb port has broken from the motherboard, seems to be a pretty clean break, all I need is a new MINIPORT does anyone know where I can buy? An OEM port...
Please HELP!!!!
Afrojack
HELP USB Miniport Broke
Can someone help I have an issue, I broke my usb port, I have the phone opened, I was able to access the usb port it has been completely broken off the board, seems to be broken of clean no cracks on the board, all I need is the usb port does anyone know where I can buy a miniport? Also the correct size of the head for the Soldering pen? Is there anything else I may need to repair this issue. Keep in mind I have the phone open, and Have the ability, but if there is any more steps I may use I would really appreciate it. Thanks
AfroJack
Is this a common problem? Mine is now loose, and it will be so annoying of it breaks off the mobo.
I don't know anywhere where you can buy the miniport, but surely warrantee will cover fixing the miniport?...
I did almost the exact thing a couple days ago. I only noticed now from this post. My pins were bent but it didn't break. I had to bend it pretty far so my charger would work again. Do you have pictures of what it looks like from the inside? Maybe you can buy a cheap device with the same pin layout?
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No I dont could take one, the usb port broke off the board I have talked to PocketPCTechs.com They will sale me a USB Port for $25.00 dollars I wish they had a picture of it maybe I will call them for a picture. They also said they will fix it for $79.00 dollars. I would like to do myself but for 79.00 dollars well I think it is well worth it.
I had the same problem 25 for the part 0 for a local company to put it in. pocketpctechs does give you the mogul usb port which I think is better than what comes standard on my kaiser. (humorous fact htc wanted $350 and 3 wks to fix it)
its not covered under warranty its considered misuse
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
there are disassembly pics somewhere on this page, if your comfortable soldering it shouldn't be a problem. did it w/ my 8525.
Hey maybe you can extract the port from this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-HTC-MINI-US...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I get one like the one I posted and it has the HTC symbol on it and everything. It looks OEM to me. Well the mini usb port on there to where you can plug in the headphones has all the pins on there and it seems like you would be able to just extract the one on the adapter for much cheaper. (around $5)
HTC repairs
I recently sent my kaiser to htc repairs USA austin tx and had to give them my credit card number. Anything they find broken not covered by the warranty they fix for $28 which seems cheap since you know they will repair it the right way. Also its oem parts
Hey I am currently living in Austin, TX for school. I just have an ATT Tilt and am not with ATT so I am probably not covered by anything.
damn, smaething happened to me , but it didnt broke off the phone, now that i look at it the usb thing its bend, now I know why the charger didnt want to plug in yesterday...
HTC has a one year warranty and as I stated befor they will fix non warranty items for only $28. That is what I was told when I sent in a Tilt that was not with AT&T.
I think mine must be bent or something too. The USB goes into it to charge, but it falls out really easily. It's not as big of a deal if i am charging it at my house and just leave it alone. The problem is when I'm in my car and it moves around and the charger falls out when it just slides a little bit.
taylor310 said:
I think mine must be bent or something too. The USB goes into it to charge, but it falls out really easily. It's not as big of a deal if i am charging it at my house and just leave it alone. The problem is when I'm in my car and it moves around and the charger falls out when it just slides a little bit.
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Thats how it started with my apache, now it doesnt charge at all. I found a site on google, search for PPC techs and they do the repair for $60, but you have to be without the phone for that time.
Tilt port repair from HTC USA
Called them about a port repair and was told it would probably be around $350 since it is part of the main board. Might be covered under warranty, up to the technician to determine if it is a normal failure or customer caused.
Too big a crap shoot!!
I just had the same thing happen, and they also told me it was "user error" and that it would be $300+ to fix...... this is clearly a manufacturing/design error and should be covered by warranty!
Big_Dutch said:
I just had the same thing happen, and they also told me it was "user error" and that it would be $300+ to fix...... this is clearly a manufacturing/design error and should be covered by warranty!
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Just bumping this thread because I have the same problem. One of the metal pins inside the usb port ended up being "pushed down" so my phone wouldn't charge/connect to activesync.
It might be time to move on from an HTC phone, I guess.
The phone was a refurb though, and I've had it for 8 months.

Calling All Kaiser Diagnosticians

I've had my tilt for a little over two years now and it seems the hardware has finally gave in. About two weeks back, the phone repeatedly got got stuck in a white screen when returning from sleep mode (as identified here: search "white screen issue"). I chose to dismantle the phone and replace the flex cable with one I had salvaged from my friend's dead tilt. Fortunately the white screen went away. In turn, I lost the use of the memory card slot, the touchscreen functionality only worked in landscape mode, and worst of all my sim card is no longer identified. Trying to revert back to my old tilt's flex cable gave me a empty screen all together. My question is, whether I should purchase both a new flex cable and screen or whether a flex cable alone will do? Moreover should I take a chance and dismantle an old tilt sold on eBay? Or just buy a new cable shipped all the way from China as there seems to be no US sellers? Any and all advice is welcome.
Sounds like you may have a loose/bad connection plug, need to recheck assembly.
The old ribbon probably failed completely due to extra stress during dissembly.
Parts from china are mostly copy parts & the quality is normally awful, buying a salvalge phone is a good option if price is right.
For sure a few forum members will have Kaiser spares.
Mister B said:
Sounds like you may have a loose/bad connection plug, need to recheck assembly.
The old ribbon probably failed completely due to extra stress during dissembly.
Parts from china are mostly copy parts & the quality is normally awful, buying a salvalge phone is a good option if price is right.
For sure a few forum members will have Kaiser spares.
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Thanks for the response, but I disassembled time and again to check the connectors with the utmost care mind you . After some thought, I decided the salvage phone was not a a good option as those may have severe wear on the cable as well and I'm not willing to wait around for a week for the item to arrive to find its dysfunctional (or nearing its fate). Fortunately, I found a legitimate eBay seller in NY who has the new flex cable. Hopefully if the phone recovers, I will update for those who might come upon this thread and have found themselves in a similar situation.

[Q] Xperia X8 USB port broken

So, I have bought a xperia x8 from a friend for around 30$ without a box, charger, nor earphones. when i got the phone from him, i was surprised that i got it for that little, because it was in good shape. But, when i tried to charge it, I had to struggle to put it in a posititon to charge. after 2-3 days it has stopped to charge at all, i opened it to see what is it, because it has no warranty, so idc, and i noticed that the USB port disconnected from the motherboard. so, is there a way to fix it?
mario00231 said:
So, I have bought a xperia x8 from a friend for around 30$ without a box, charger, nor earphones. when i got the phone from him, i was surprised that i got it for that little, because it was in good shape. But, when i tried to charge it, I had to struggle to put it in a posititon to charge. after 2-3 days it has stopped to charge at all, i opened it to see what is it, because it has no warranty, so idc, and i noticed that the USB port disconnected from the motherboard. so, is there a way to fix it?
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Find yourself a repair shop to have a look at it. If the micro USB connector came off the motherboard chances are very likely that the printed lines could be damaged as well, in which case a repair is either tricky to do or simply impossible as it would require the replacement of the motherboard (and I think that without warranty a new phone may be cheaper).
Anyway, if your "friend" didn't tell you about the damage then I would return tohe phone to him and ask for money back.
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Anyway, if your "friend" didn't tell you about the damage then I would return to phone to him and ask for money back.
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+1!! Better you return that phone and get you f**king money back Dude!
+1 return that f++++ phone or find a repair man that can fix it

[Q] Repair Cost in USA

Hi guys, something happened to my HTC one's USB port. In order to get the USB connection to work/charge, the cord has to be held at a certain angle. This is regardless of cable being used. I think it got damaged the other day when it slipped out of my car's phone mount while I was using it as GPS.
Anyone had any experience getting things fixed at the HTC repair center in the USA? Any idea what fixing something like this would cost?
A: I'm going to answer my own question after contacting HTC and Sprint. Here are my options:
1) On-site phone exchange - $19. They send me a mailer, I put my phone in, once they get it they send me a replacement. Likely a refurb.
2) Service Center - I mail it to the service center, they repair it and bill me. They estimated for this issue it would be $120. Benefit, I keep my own phone, although I'm sure they wipe it as part of the checklist.
3) Take it to Sprint, who will do a repair or replacement for $75.
So the risk with #1 and #3, is you will likely get a refurb, which may have the purple tint issue, wear and tear, etc. My luck has been *mostly* good with refubs, but a few years back when I was on T-Mobile, I one time had to get 3 different phones before I got a refurb that was fully functional. No idea how HTC or Sprint's QC is on refurbs.
#2 is the most expensive, but at least I will get my own phone back which I know has had the camera sensor replaced under warranty already and which has already been SIM unlocked.

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