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[Q] Will Froyo releases be leaked ?

Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.

dakine said:
Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Is there a better community of beta testers than xda-developers?
I'm very happy with all my Samsung mobiles (...,blade, i780, Omnia2, ...) I hope Samsung STEP IN into this community and help us help them
Samsung: let us test your Beta please (We do it for free!)

dan 6a said:
Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.

Ancient_One said:
Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Agreed you are mean

I nearly fell from chair.

IF they would release thier Froyo as beta to this forum - they could get beta feedback by reading about bugs posted by us AND does not have to deal with the consequences we know how to reflash - "normal" users dont.
So Win Win for both.

Yeah, you really should have titled the thread as a question. As worded, it makes folks think it's actually happened.

LOL at people's hopes being dashed.

there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs

Samsung, your turn.
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FROYO
AllGamer said:
there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
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Already Alpha versions out :|? What!? Where?

Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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bratfink said:
Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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I fired up a google search and i found a lot of hits about a froyo alpha on a galaxy spica. Maybe some things got mixed up.

Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.

AXIS of Reality said:
Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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You're absolutely right. However i have a HTC Magic (very old android phone) and i'm running Froyo and it rocks =) hehehe, i know, i know, it's not official
Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
I'm selling my HTC Magic right now to help buying this phone
Cheers,
Phk

AXIS of Reality said:
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Yep we sure are
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
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Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?

flamingpitofhell said:
Yep we sure are
Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Possibly but I think I have to go with the sceptic masses here that say samsung support isn't good in longterm and so I guess they won't do that. Unless ofc gingerbread is going to bring the massive UI update that vanilla android so desperately needs for usablity and samsung decides that touchwiy isnt necessary anymore.

Phk said:
Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
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There are developers assigned to port CyanogenMod to the Vibrant (T-Mobile US version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729364
Unfortunately, looking at Wes Garner's Twitter, he seems rather more keen on the Slide than the Vibrant:
I like the slide better
@wesgarner so does that mean your gonna keep developing for the slide?
@XJRodzx probably more for it than the vibrant
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So don't know how that's necessarily going to work out. The intention is there, though, anyway - hope it's still in progress!

I have doubts with Gingerbread...from what we know so far, it's supposed to have a (MUCH NEEDED!) UI overhaul based around the Gallery's sexy look.
If a phone is launched with a certain interface, chances are the manufacturer probably wouldn't be keen on releasing an update that changes everything because of the issue with it being different to what the buyer paid for. Basically, it changes the product, and the picture on the box is no longer what you've bought. It's all well and good with something like Eclair to Froyo since it's largely just performance improvements and some new features rather than an overhaul.
If anything, I think Samsung would be more likely to release a new version of the Galaxy S at Gingerbread's launch. Much like it's doubtful the HTC Desire / Evo 4G / Incredible will get Gingerbread updates. Instead, HTC will probably have new devices ready for the new interface.
The Nexus One is the only current device I believe has a chance of Gingerbread, mainly because it's the 'official' Google phone and has been promoted and sold as a developer phone.They'll be wanting some nice apps ready for Gingerbread when it launches which will obviously need to be in development before Gingerbread-equipped phones launch.

[Q] nexus one and gingerbread - past and future?

if gingerbread is the future of android devices, it suppose to support hardware capabilities that may not be on the nexus that has been around for a while.
i really wanted to buy a nexus, but it seems that when android 3.0 is out - it should be followed by high end devices by HTC and others.
i really don't know what to do here...
gingerbread is said to launch mid november - not a long time to hold off.
but hey, what do think? wait or buy nexus now?

That is Exactly what I am doing! The desire HD looks wonderful, but i think There will be a VERY nice phone coming on T mobile with new gingerbread already there around Christmas....Just my guess
It seems T mobile and Google have some sort of special deal when it comes to android, like getting stock android phones.....and there MUST be a stock gingerbread phone coming soon!

oronm said:
if gingerbread is the future of android devices, it suppose to support hardware capabilities that may not be on the nexus that has been around for a while.
i really wanted to buy a nexus, but it seems that when android 3.0 is out - it should be followed by high end devices by HTC and others.
i really don't know what to do here...
gingerbread is said to launch mid november - not a long time to hold off.
but hey, what do think? wait or buy nexus now?
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First, Gingerbread will run fine on a N1. Second, no matter when you buy a phone in a couple months another one will come out that is even better. The N1 has an awesome modding scene though.

First, Gingerbread will run fine on a N1.
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nobody know that for sure...the minimal requirements may suit the N1 but it may lack the ability to perform certain tasks. we've seen it happen with other phones.
Second, no matter when you buy a phone in a couple months another one will come out that is even better
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true for most cases. to me nexus is different from others by design. that phone feels right. i really couldn't care less about all these samsungs or motorolas that are out there. and other htc devices seem too big like the desire HD that was mentioned.
basicly, the world need a NEXUS TWO!

So you think Google will develop an OS using their development phone, but not all features of the OS will work on the phone they developed it on? I highly doubt that. Google debunked the minimum requirements roomer for Gingerbread, that was nothing but a site trying to get traffic. Do a little thinking on the subject.
If I were getting a new phone soon though, I would wait till the next gen ones come out. I do love my Nexus though!

the nexus one was a success in regard of telling the world "this is what android can do right now". others did follow and it is biting the market share making other mobile OS look like code accidents.
none the less, why shouldn't gingerbread allow "facetime like" video service for capable devices? the technology for that is in the wild. that is only one example. i am sure there are more features just like that.
at this point, maybe it would be smarter to wait.

oronm said:
the nexus one was a success in regard of telling the world "this is what android can do right now". others did follow and it is biting the market share making other mobile OS look like code accidents.
none the less, why shouldn't gingerbread allow "facetime like" video service for capable devices? the technology for that is in the wild. that is only one example. i am sure there are more features just like that.
at this point, maybe it would be smarter to wait.
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Whether or not Gingerbread includes a facetime like option is irrelevant to how it will run on the N1. Obviously any phone without a front-facing camera will not be able to do something like facetime. Gingerbread itself will run just fine on the N1. Without going into any technical reasons, just think of this. Of all the Android phones out there right now, the top ones are all in the general vicinity of the N1 in performance. If Gingerbread wouldn't run on the N1, then you cut out these phones too which means only as-yet-unreleased phones would run Gingerbread. So on what basis are you questioning it?
You should probably wait though since you don't seem sure about the N1. The only guarantee you can have is that in a few months from now an even better phone will be released. And then a few months from that once again, and repeat... Dual core snapdragons will start finding their way into phones at some point soon. If you're not rushed then just wait and see what comes out.

HTC plans to skip 2.3 on Incredible S

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-confirms-incredible-s-ship-froyo-will-get-update-24-soon-after
I wonder what this means for our over due upgrade.
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were we ever even 100% confirmed to get 2.3 on the evo from google/sprint?

I think the only upgrade they ever officially promised was froyo but for how often we were getting upgrades it seems odd we've been so long without one. Especially with evos still on back order some places.
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xHausx said:
I think the only upgrade they ever officially promised was froyo but for how often we were getting upgrades it seems odd we've been so long without one. Especially with evos still on back order some places.
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i don't think the evo will get gingerbread at all tbh. well except ports from the devs. face it guys, the phone is going on a year old shortly.

fixxxer2008 said:
i don't think the evo will get gingerbread at all tbh. well except ports from the devs. face it guys, the phone is going on a year old shortly.
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funny.. .the people over on mac rumors complain like hell that their two year old phone cant run the newest software.

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funny.. .the people over on mac rumors complain like hell that their two year old phone cant run the newest software.
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never said the evo could not run it, i said i doubt we will get it officially.

It's almost a year old but there must be a lot of demand for it still if some places are having trouble keeping them in stock. HTC is known for supporting their phones and right now it's still the best one sprint has imo
And honestly, for all ever trash done topic users talk, I would love to be able to rub it in their faces that we are 2 or 3 builds ahead of them lol
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never said the evo could not run it, i said i doubt we will get it officially.
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haha no i wasnt making fun of that, meh never mind haha

Come to work at 7...

DarkManX4lf said:
Come to work at 7...
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what are you talking about?

xHausx said:
It's almost a year old but there must be a lot of demand for it still if some places are having trouble keeping them in stock. HTC is known for supporting their phones and right now it's still the best one sprint has imo
And honestly, for all ever trash done topic users talk, I would love to be able to rub it in their faces that we are 2 or 3 builds ahead of them lol
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That is why I have mixed emotions about Htc' s underwhelming offerings at MWC. As long as the Evo is top dog at Sprint, we should see regular updates.

Guys, do read the second part of the article: "will get 2.4 soon after". 2.4 is Gingerbread. If you've been following MWC 2011, you might remember that 2.4 is just HTC's own numbering for their own spin on Gingerbread with additional coding from their side. For all intents and purposes, it is Gingerbread.
To put it in further context, remember that HTC has been using the 2.4 along with the title 'Gingerbread' throughout MWC, and in fact touted their entire MWC line-up (save the Incredible S) as having '2.4 Gingerbread', when we all know there there has not been any Android 2.4 release, nor even any indication that Ice Cream Sandwich is close at hand.
So yes, the Incredible S will get Gingerbread, just not at launch. In fact, the article and source both say that the Gingerbread upgrade will follow after shipping.
Also, for your own reference, the primary source which this topic on a topic on a topic was based upon: http://twitter.com/htc/status/37504723019894784
On a side note, however, I do wonder about the implications of HTC's move on the future numbering of Android releases. Assuming that HTC has received Google's blessing to do this, does it imply that Ice Cream Sandwich will not even be a 2.x release at all, but 3.x (3.1?)? After all, given what Schmidt said about the next 'I' version of Android being device-agnostic and an upgrade to both Gingerbread and Honeycomb, this seems likely.

Madrenergic said:
Guys, do read the second part of the article: "will get 2.4 soon after". 2.4 is Gingerbread. If you've been following MWC 2011, you might remember that 2.4 is just HTC's own numbering for their own spin on Gingerbread with additional coding from their side. For all intents and purposes, it is Gingerbread.
To put it in further context, remember that HTC has been using the 2.4 along with the title 'Gingerbread' throughout MWC, and in fact touted their entire MWC line-up (save the Incredible S) as having '2.4 Gingerbread', when we all know there there has not been any Android 2.4 release, nor even any indication that Ice Cream Sandwich is close at hand.
So yes, the Incredible S will get Gingerbread, just not at launch. In fact, the article and source both say that the Gingerbread upgrade will follow after shipping.
Also, for your own reference, the primary source which this topic on a topic on a topic was based upon: http://twitter.com/htc/status/37504723019894784
On a side note, however, I do wonder about the implications of HTC's move on the future numbering of Android releases. Assuming that HTC has received Google's blessing to do this, does it imply that Ice Cream Sandwich will not even be a 2.x release at all, but 3.x (3.1?)? After all, given what Schmidt said about the next 'I' version of Android being device-agnostic and an upgrade to both Gingerbread and Honeycomb, this seems likely.
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There's been a lot of confusion about what 2.4 will be called but I'm pretty sure Google announced at MWC it would called Ice Cream (or Ice Cream Sandwich). HTC on the other hand has been sending mixed messages so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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There's been a lot of confusion about what 2.4 will be called but I'm pretty sure Google announced at MWC it would called Ice Cream (or Ice Cream Sandwich). HTC on the other hand has been sending mixed messages so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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True, but here's Eric Schmidt's exact words from his MWC 2011 keynote:
We have an OS called Gingerbread for phones, we have an OS being previewed now for tablets called Honeycomb. The two of them. You can imagine the follow up will start with an I, be named after dessert, and will combine these two.
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Nowhere does he mention that the next iteration will be 2.4 (or even specifically Ice Cream Sandwich, for that matter), but I haven't actually checked Google's other press releases, so I can't be sure on that either. When you think about it, if Google has actually already announced the next version as '2.4 Ice Cream Sandwich', why should Schmidt beat around the bush about its number and name?
Anyway, I've been doing some additional research, and one of the things that has been wracking my brains is that other manufacturers also seem to advertise the OS of their upcoming phones as "2.4 Gingerbread", so this suggests it can't simply be a HTC-only phenomenon.
For that matter, there seems to be a 'leak' from ViewSonic that claims 2.4 is actually an official update of Gingerbread from Google that adds support for dual-core processors and apps to ensure that apps are compatible across Honeycomb and Gingerbread devices (and not just HTC's spin on 2.3). Makes more sense now, doesn't it?
In addition to that. The same source also says that Ice Cream Sandwich will likely be 3.1, rather than 2.x. So no, Ice Cream Sandwich will not likely be 2.4.
Source: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38311/android-2-4-april-release-date

ya, I read his quote after I wrote that so who know. He would make a good politician for how vague he is. I just hope HTC hurries up and either gives those of us with older devices an update to something or leaks a sense ROM with something newer than Froyo. We went from getting updates once a month to nothing for three now.
They did the same thing with us as far as releasing the Evo with 2.1 and we had 2.2 within a month or two so hopefully it won't be too long.

Funny that you said that, because HTC has recently announced that the entire Desire line-up will get 2.3 Gingerbread in Q2. Given that the EVO was released later the Desire, and the fact that it's really just a 4G version of the DHD, it would probably get a Gingerbread update too.
And here's another update, and it's certainly a confusing one: HTC now says that what it originally called 2.4 Gingerbread is really just 2.3.3. But if that was the case, what about all the other manufacturers who said they were running 2.4 Gingerbread? Are they going to come out and say that they're actually just running 2.3.3 too?
Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/mobiles/item/21915-new-gingerbread-is-233
Also, this could hint that 2.4 might be Ice Cream Sandwich, but until the above is clarified, nothing is certain. Boy, am I confused.

Speak of the devil!
HTC Incredible S port for HTC EVO 4G
Perhaps this could tide you over in the meantime?

Madrenergic said:
Speak of the devil!
HTC Incredible S port for HTC EVO 4G
Perhaps this could tide you over in the meantime?
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Still Froyo, rest assured I've been keeping an eye on Sniper's blog for that GB/IC/whatever RUU to show up though.

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HTC is known for supporting their phones
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I guess the Hero was an exception Canada sucks get all the good phones last (well I personally blame Telus since they are lazy asses because Bell got the Desire Z quite fast) and our 3 year contracts suck big time...
I think 2.4 is Gingerbread just for dual-core and "universal" app support (Honeycomb to Ginger and vice versa) as stated above, and I read it some where also.

MentalDeath said:
I guess the Hero was an exception Canada sucks get all the good phones last (well I personally blame Telus since they are lazy asses because Bell got the Desire Z quite fast) and our 3 year contracts suck big time...
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I'm just happy we don't have contracts (or can choose not to have I should say) ... Sure contracts allow for cheaper phones but I'm sure in the end you'll pay more then the initial full price of the phone, at least that is the case here.
As for getting the the latest and greatest phones last ... We can have that here too, like the iPhone or something like the HP PALM Pre or whatever.
Anyway, going off topic here ... sorry Didn't want to hijack the thread.
I'm sure there will be an update to this phone, what it will be remains to be seen, HTC has some great phones, but in the communication department they are missing some radio-roms I'm thinking

Should I Get a Droid?

Hi guys(and girls), in 2011, should I get an original Droid? If I bought one it would be my first android phone, i've flashed a custom rom on a windows phone before but i don't know how to root yet, but would it be good for me to get a Droid now? With the newer phones that are out?

Honestly just get a newer and better phone for free. There are many free phones out there that are better hardware and software wise like the inspire 4g(which I have)

I'll pass on a contract.

Juanito216 said:
Hi guys(and girls), in 2011, should I get an original Droid? If I bought one it would be my first android phone, i've flashed a custom rom on a windows phone before but i don't know how to root yet, but would it be good for me to get a Droid now? With the newer phones that are out?
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yes! I have one aswell and I can show you or message you on how to
and how to flash roms just like i did

no.
i think a nexus is way better supportet.
google is developing right on the nexus phones. i would by one of these. and not a doird again.

Thanks for the replies, I might wait to get something more advanced. Good things come to those who wait.

GodT2 said:
no.
i think a nexus is way better supportet.
google is developing right on the nexus phones. i would by one of these. and not a doird again.
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That thing is freaking expensive
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If I was buying my first Android right now (I bought the Milestone in September of '10) I might look at the Nexus one. I think Amazon has it for around $280, new. The screen size is the same but I think it's a little faster and is obviously better supported.

Consider buying a device with more RAM than droid.
Also you should answer a question, whether you are confortable with touchscreen virtual keyboard or not - I'm not, so I took Milestone

I would consider a keyboardless device ie EVO/HD2/Thunderbolt(big screens), my sister had a Cliq XT at one time and i tried texting on that, my thumbs were kind of big for the buttons?

Well guys, I got a Droid X today.

I've had my Droid for 2 years now and it's been a great device. The development community has been great and there are still a lot of good ROM a currently being developed and supported for it.
While it might not have the most memory, most apps can be pushed to SD. The processor overclocks to 1g (and usually even higher), so it can still match the quadrant scores of many newer phones.
If the price is right, and you want to experiment with rooting and flashing ROMs, not many other phones have as much community support and it's next to impossible to brick a Droid.

I have my Droid (Milestone, actually) for more than a year now and can't say anything bad about the device itself. When it comes down to Motorola, we're talking about a different sport
Motorola's update policy had me waiting for FroYo for months and when it came out, it was a beta-versions, months old that gave a lot of people WLAN-problems. Also the use of the bootloader is a real pain.
If you're willing to install a custom ROM, you're fine, there are good ones out there (I'm using FroyoMOD), but due to the company's update (and bootloader) policy, my next device won't be a Motorola.

And sorry Droid1 owners, we’re dropping support for you.

We’ve been hard at work on CM9 since Google released Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) into the wild last month, and things are slowly starting to come together. Google did a great job with ICS and added some really awesome features which in some cases replace or deprecate functionality that we had in CM7, so we are reevaluating all of our customizations. A number of devices are already up and running with CM9, and the focus is currently on getting as many devices ready as we can. The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos. We also have some Tegra2 tablets in the pipeline such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus Transformer. Our goal is to provide continued support to all CM7 devices back to the QSD8250 series of devices such as the Nexus One. I don’t want to make any promises at this time, but that is the plan. And sorry Droid1 owners, we’re dropping support for you. Time to upgrade.

What do you recommend if we have to keep our Droid1?!?
I have no philosophical problem with the Droid1 not having the latest and greatest CM ROM. I can get along without CM7 on the Droid1, since I will be going that way with my Droid Bionic "real soon now". (I'm kinda, sorta, used to this class of support, since I have about 6 Win XP/Pro boxes and a SBS 2003 server here on my SOHO network. All the current best boxes for me and my digital nerds are dual booted running top end Win7 and several flavors of Linux.
So, what is the last build that we should use, how long will it be supported and will security fixes be available?
Thanks,
/s/ BezantSoft

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And sorry Droid1 owners, we’re dropping support for you. Time to upgrade.
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And you plan to make this seem official... How? If the CyanogenMod developers actually said that, I might have a few unkind remarks about forced hardware upgrades to share.
For the record, I am not complaining about the lack of official CM9 support, the fact that ICS on the Droid1 would likely be a slow/buggy/needless upgrade, or anything along those lines.
What I might complain about is that the Droid1 is the most recent Android phone I would buy. Nothing newer has an unlocked bootloader, a better physical keyboard (well, minus the Nokia N900, but that's not without its issues either), a comparable screen, and the second-hand advantage: No carrier contract/spying or data plan required (Google Voice over WiFi FTW), cheaper than dirt for mobile software development, and wide availability (unlike certain Maemo/MeeGo phones).
Until a developer phone appears that meets my stingy requirements, I will continue using my Droid and experimenting with Linux software on it. I only wish that waiting for other people to do what I should be doing was easier, secure in my knowledge that someone else in the world cares about the same things I care about. What can I say, I'm lazy.
TL;DR: Telling people to upgrade when they don't have a choice is counterproductive IMHO.

gTan64 said:
And you plan to make this seem official... How? If the CyanogenMod developers actually said that, I might have a few unkind remarks about forced hardware upgrades to share.
For the record, I am not complaining about the lack of official CM9 support, the fact that ICS on the Droid1 would likely be a slow/buggy/needless upgrade, or anything along those lines.
What I might complain about is that the Droid1 is the most recent Android phone I would buy. Nothing newer has an unlocked bootloader, a better physical keyboard (well, minus the Nokia N900, but that's not without its issues either), a comparable screen, and the second-hand advantage: No carrier contract/spying or data plan required (Google Voice over WiFi FTW), cheaper than dirt for mobile software development, and wide availability (unlike certain Maemo/MeeGo phones).
Until a developer phone appears that meets my stingy requirements, I will continue using my Droid and experimenting with Linux software on it. I only wish that waiting for other people to do what I should be doing was easier, secure in my knowledge that someone else in the world cares about the same things I care about. What can I say, I'm lazy.
TL;DR: Telling people to upgrade when they don't have a choice is counterproductive IMHO.
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That first post is a quote from the cm blog. So it is 100% true.
VISION 1.5Ghz

I think a kang will show up sooner or later. There are plenty of other interesting OMAP3 devices (Nook Color for one) which should get ports, and OMAP3 doesn't have to lose 60-100MB of RAM to the radio, so with compcache and good tuning 256MB might actually be enough.
It really depends on if OMAP3 HW accell can work fully under ICS. If the Nook Color runs well, so should the Droid...

gTan64 said:
What I might complain about is that the Droid1 is the most recent Android phone I would buy. Nothing newer has an unlocked bootloader, a better physical keyboard (well, minus the Nokia N900, but that's not without its issues either), a comparable screen, and the second-hand advantage: No carrier contract/spying or data plan required (Google Voice over WiFi FTW), cheaper than dirt for mobile software development, and wide availability (unlike certain Maemo/MeeGo phones).
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so your complaint has nothing to do with software development, but with handset manufacturers. What does that have to do with CM saying they won't support what amounts to a 1st gen device?
TL;DR: Telling people to upgrade when they don't have a choice is counterproductive IMHO.
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but you do have a choice. either upgrade, or you're stuck with whatever they've already built.

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Well, someone'll port ics to this 3 year old POS i'm stuck with for another year.
I'd rather have a current os that doesn't run well than a outdated os that does.
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I'd rather have a current os that doesn't run well than a outdated os that does.
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Why????
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Having no money for a off-contract phone and not being able to upgrade for a year, I have to do something to keep my original droid usable for a year. I find knowing there's a major update available and not getting it due to hardware issues annoying when the g1 got it (even if it was a laggy mess, at least it's not 2.3), which impacts it being what I consider usable.
(Also, I don't want ics launcher. Beneath the veneer of modernity it's still that stale old gingerbread.)
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Having no money for a off-contract phone and not being able to upgrade for a year, I have to do something to keep my original droid usable for a year. I find knowing there's a major update available and not getting it due to hardware issues annoying when the g1 got it (even if it was a laggy mess, at least it's not 2.3), which impacts it being what I consider usable.
(Also, I don't want ics launcher. Beneath the veneer of modernity it's still that stale old gingerbread.)
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I'm in the same boat as you, I have no upgrade for a year. so i'm stuck with my D1. and i agree with your other statement a g1 can handle it yet no one is making an attempt in porting it to the D1 on top of that a 6 year old htc windows mobile phone has it with like 134mb of ram. and yet the droid still has no port whatsoever