http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-confirms-incredible-s-ship-froyo-will-get-update-24-soon-after
I wonder what this means for our over due upgrade.
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were we ever even 100% confirmed to get 2.3 on the evo from google/sprint?
I think the only upgrade they ever officially promised was froyo but for how often we were getting upgrades it seems odd we've been so long without one. Especially with evos still on back order some places.
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I think the only upgrade they ever officially promised was froyo but for how often we were getting upgrades it seems odd we've been so long without one. Especially with evos still on back order some places.
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i don't think the evo will get gingerbread at all tbh. well except ports from the devs. face it guys, the phone is going on a year old shortly.
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i don't think the evo will get gingerbread at all tbh. well except ports from the devs. face it guys, the phone is going on a year old shortly.
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funny.. .the people over on mac rumors complain like hell that their two year old phone cant run the newest software.
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funny.. .the people over on mac rumors complain like hell that their two year old phone cant run the newest software.
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never said the evo could not run it, i said i doubt we will get it officially.
It's almost a year old but there must be a lot of demand for it still if some places are having trouble keeping them in stock. HTC is known for supporting their phones and right now it's still the best one sprint has imo
And honestly, for all ever trash done topic users talk, I would love to be able to rub it in their faces that we are 2 or 3 builds ahead of them lol
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never said the evo could not run it, i said i doubt we will get it officially.
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haha no i wasnt making fun of that, meh never mind haha
Come to work at 7...
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Come to work at 7...
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what are you talking about?
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It's almost a year old but there must be a lot of demand for it still if some places are having trouble keeping them in stock. HTC is known for supporting their phones and right now it's still the best one sprint has imo
And honestly, for all ever trash done topic users talk, I would love to be able to rub it in their faces that we are 2 or 3 builds ahead of them lol
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That is why I have mixed emotions about Htc' s underwhelming offerings at MWC. As long as the Evo is top dog at Sprint, we should see regular updates.
Guys, do read the second part of the article: "will get 2.4 soon after". 2.4 is Gingerbread. If you've been following MWC 2011, you might remember that 2.4 is just HTC's own numbering for their own spin on Gingerbread with additional coding from their side. For all intents and purposes, it is Gingerbread.
To put it in further context, remember that HTC has been using the 2.4 along with the title 'Gingerbread' throughout MWC, and in fact touted their entire MWC line-up (save the Incredible S) as having '2.4 Gingerbread', when we all know there there has not been any Android 2.4 release, nor even any indication that Ice Cream Sandwich is close at hand.
So yes, the Incredible S will get Gingerbread, just not at launch. In fact, the article and source both say that the Gingerbread upgrade will follow after shipping.
Also, for your own reference, the primary source which this topic on a topic on a topic was based upon: http://twitter.com/htc/status/37504723019894784
On a side note, however, I do wonder about the implications of HTC's move on the future numbering of Android releases. Assuming that HTC has received Google's blessing to do this, does it imply that Ice Cream Sandwich will not even be a 2.x release at all, but 3.x (3.1?)? After all, given what Schmidt said about the next 'I' version of Android being device-agnostic and an upgrade to both Gingerbread and Honeycomb, this seems likely.
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Guys, do read the second part of the article: "will get 2.4 soon after". 2.4 is Gingerbread. If you've been following MWC 2011, you might remember that 2.4 is just HTC's own numbering for their own spin on Gingerbread with additional coding from their side. For all intents and purposes, it is Gingerbread.
To put it in further context, remember that HTC has been using the 2.4 along with the title 'Gingerbread' throughout MWC, and in fact touted their entire MWC line-up (save the Incredible S) as having '2.4 Gingerbread', when we all know there there has not been any Android 2.4 release, nor even any indication that Ice Cream Sandwich is close at hand.
So yes, the Incredible S will get Gingerbread, just not at launch. In fact, the article and source both say that the Gingerbread upgrade will follow after shipping.
Also, for your own reference, the primary source which this topic on a topic on a topic was based upon: http://twitter.com/htc/status/37504723019894784
On a side note, however, I do wonder about the implications of HTC's move on the future numbering of Android releases. Assuming that HTC has received Google's blessing to do this, does it imply that Ice Cream Sandwich will not even be a 2.x release at all, but 3.x (3.1?)? After all, given what Schmidt said about the next 'I' version of Android being device-agnostic and an upgrade to both Gingerbread and Honeycomb, this seems likely.
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There's been a lot of confusion about what 2.4 will be called but I'm pretty sure Google announced at MWC it would called Ice Cream (or Ice Cream Sandwich). HTC on the other hand has been sending mixed messages so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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There's been a lot of confusion about what 2.4 will be called but I'm pretty sure Google announced at MWC it would called Ice Cream (or Ice Cream Sandwich). HTC on the other hand has been sending mixed messages so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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True, but here's Eric Schmidt's exact words from his MWC 2011 keynote:
We have an OS called Gingerbread for phones, we have an OS being previewed now for tablets called Honeycomb. The two of them. You can imagine the follow up will start with an I, be named after dessert, and will combine these two.
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Nowhere does he mention that the next iteration will be 2.4 (or even specifically Ice Cream Sandwich, for that matter), but I haven't actually checked Google's other press releases, so I can't be sure on that either. When you think about it, if Google has actually already announced the next version as '2.4 Ice Cream Sandwich', why should Schmidt beat around the bush about its number and name?
Anyway, I've been doing some additional research, and one of the things that has been wracking my brains is that other manufacturers also seem to advertise the OS of their upcoming phones as "2.4 Gingerbread", so this suggests it can't simply be a HTC-only phenomenon.
For that matter, there seems to be a 'leak' from ViewSonic that claims 2.4 is actually an official update of Gingerbread from Google that adds support for dual-core processors and apps to ensure that apps are compatible across Honeycomb and Gingerbread devices (and not just HTC's spin on 2.3). Makes more sense now, doesn't it?
In addition to that. The same source also says that Ice Cream Sandwich will likely be 3.1, rather than 2.x. So no, Ice Cream Sandwich will not likely be 2.4.
Source: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38311/android-2-4-april-release-date
ya, I read his quote after I wrote that so who know. He would make a good politician for how vague he is. I just hope HTC hurries up and either gives those of us with older devices an update to something or leaks a sense ROM with something newer than Froyo. We went from getting updates once a month to nothing for three now.
They did the same thing with us as far as releasing the Evo with 2.1 and we had 2.2 within a month or two so hopefully it won't be too long.
Funny that you said that, because HTC has recently announced that the entire Desire line-up will get 2.3 Gingerbread in Q2. Given that the EVO was released later the Desire, and the fact that it's really just a 4G version of the DHD, it would probably get a Gingerbread update too.
And here's another update, and it's certainly a confusing one: HTC now says that what it originally called 2.4 Gingerbread is really just 2.3.3. But if that was the case, what about all the other manufacturers who said they were running 2.4 Gingerbread? Are they going to come out and say that they're actually just running 2.3.3 too?
Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/mobiles/item/21915-new-gingerbread-is-233
Also, this could hint that 2.4 might be Ice Cream Sandwich, but until the above is clarified, nothing is certain. Boy, am I confused.
Speak of the devil!
HTC Incredible S port for HTC EVO 4G
Perhaps this could tide you over in the meantime?
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Speak of the devil!
HTC Incredible S port for HTC EVO 4G
Perhaps this could tide you over in the meantime?
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Still Froyo, rest assured I've been keeping an eye on Sniper's blog for that GB/IC/whatever RUU to show up though.
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HTC is known for supporting their phones
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I guess the Hero was an exception Canada sucks get all the good phones last (well I personally blame Telus since they are lazy asses because Bell got the Desire Z quite fast) and our 3 year contracts suck big time...
I think 2.4 is Gingerbread just for dual-core and "universal" app support (Honeycomb to Ginger and vice versa) as stated above, and I read it some where also.
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I guess the Hero was an exception Canada sucks get all the good phones last (well I personally blame Telus since they are lazy asses because Bell got the Desire Z quite fast) and our 3 year contracts suck big time...
I think 2.4 is Gingerbread just for dual-core and "universal" app support (Honeycomb to Ginger and vice versa) as stated above, and I read it some where also.
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I'm just happy we don't have contracts (or can choose not to have I should say) ... Sure contracts allow for cheaper phones but I'm sure in the end you'll pay more then the initial full price of the phone, at least that is the case here.
As for getting the the latest and greatest phones last ... We can have that here too, like the iPhone or something like the HP PALM Pre or whatever.
Anyway, going off topic here ... sorry Didn't want to hijack the thread.
I'm sure there will be an update to this phone, what it will be remains to be seen, HTC has some great phones, but in the communication department they are missing some radio-roms I'm thinking
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I just read this over on phandroid here's a link just take out the space after the .
phandroid. com/2010/06/22/htc-delivering-froyo-to-the-htc-desire-and-legend-within-the-next-two-weeks/
Already got froyo on my n1 and it's sweet. I wonder how much of a speed boost the legend will gain?
let's just hope you are right about this i'm dying to see froyo on my legend and starting to regret for picking legend over desire
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let's just hope you are right about this i'm dying to see froyo on my legend and starting to regret for picking legend over desire
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same here.. but still looks cooler than Desire
except the "antenna" at the bottom, it's quite loose, the only thing that I don't like hardware-wise
hope that Froyo will improve it software-wise
by the way, just checked the original source (a german site) and they have update from today - we are not getting Froyo in two weeks.. everything is indefinite....
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HTC has denied through his PR agency, that there will be two weeks in an operating system update for the Desire and the Legend. The statement was based on a misunderstanding. It is certain that the HTC Hero will receive in the next two weeks, his update to Android 2.1. In the update for the HTC Desire remains vague and will deliver an update to the third quarter. Whether and when to upgrade to the Legend Android 2.2 get, you do not know yet.
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To me this more and more sounds like the Legend is definitely not getting FroYo. They would confirm it by now otherwise (like they did for the Desire).
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To me this more and more sounds like the Legend is definitely not getting FroYo. They would confirm it by now otherwise (like they did for the Desire).
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what? you're totally wrong, htc and desire will have froyo in the same time as they had the other updates together in the past.
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what? you're totally wrong, htc and desire will have froyo in the same time as they had the other updates together in the past.
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Uh, the article actually directly says this won't happen. Google translate failed.
Well I've heard multiple times before this that customer service reps from htc have also confirmed the update to froyo for the legend. The most recent being an email from a customer service rep stating that the user fear not about his flash playing troubles because android 2.2 and incidentally flash 10.1 would be released for the htc legend within the next 2 weeks.
Follow this up by the recent release of flash 10.1 for android 2.2 and the release of the android 2.2 source code being released today the statement of "within the next 2 weeks" seem to be exactly what is happening. Not only is android 2.2 pretty much here but will be available sooner rather then later. To add further flame to the fire htc repeatedly said android 2.2 will be supported by almost all 2010 devices and with the desire being more widely available and more powerful it is more likely to be put in with definite android 2.2 compatible even though the desire and legend get almost always get updates at the same time.
The most likely reason the statement was pulled? Well it must simply be due to google not publishing the source code yet, thus letting people essentially know froyo is ready.
Htc most certainly can't pull the plug on 2.2 before google itself does. But! Now that it has published final froyo source code it is 99.9% done and is most likely waiting to be uploaded to the server.
My uneducated guess is that we'll see froyo on the legend by mid july at the latest.
Also not sure if anyone thought of this, but bell (and indirectly virgin mobile canada) are not stupid companies. They are introducing a new android phone and thus throwing massive amounts of ad $ and marketing into it, from both bell/virgin AND htc itself. Remember this is virgins FIRST android set and bells 4th or 5th, they would most likely have talked to htc to make sure the device is upgradeable to the newest android. They just started selling it, they aren't going to allow it to be out dated within the month its released! If the did it would be a waste on advertising and a waste of introducing a new phone.
That's just my 2 cents, but it seems very logical to me, how about you?
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Well I've heard multiple times before this that customer service reps from htc have also confirmed the update to froyo for the legend. The most recent being an email from a customer service rep stating that the user fear not about his flash playing troubles because android 2.2 and incidentally flash 10.1 would be released for the htc legend within the next 2 weeks.
Follow this up by the recent release of flash 10.1 for android 2.2 and the release of the android 2.2 source code being released today the statement of "within the next 2 weeks" seem to be exactly what is happening. Not only is android 2.2 pretty much here but will be available sooner rather then later. To add further flame to the fire htc repeatedly said android 2.2 will be supported by almost all 2010 devices and with the desire being more widely available and more powerful it is more likely to be put in with definite android 2.2 compatible even though the desire and legend get almost always get updates at the same time.
The most likely reason the statement was pulled? Well it must simply be due to google not publishing the source code yet, thus letting people essentially know froyo is ready.
Htc most certainly can't pull the plug on 2.2 before google itself does. But! Now that it has published final froyo source code it is 99.9% done and is most likely waiting to be uploaded to the server.
My uneducated guess is that we'll see froyo on the legend by mid july at the latest.
Also not sure if anyone thought of this, but bell (and indirectly virgin mobile canada) are not stupid companies. They are introducing a new android phone and thus throwing massive amounts of ad $ and marketing into it, from both bell/virgin AND htc itself. Remember this is virgins FIRST android set and bells 4th or 5th, they would most likely have talked to htc to make sure the device is upgradeable to the newest android. They just started selling it, they aren't going to allow it to be out dated within the month its released! If the did it would be a waste on advertising and a waste of introducing a new phone.
That's just my 2 cents, but it seems very logical to me, how about you?
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Go read about the HTC Hero. HTC's all about wasting time.
Good news, i am waiting it. BTW, does anyone have link to stock ROM froyo for any device? Pls give me the link, i'll try to port it for legend.
Thanks.
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Go read about the HTC Hero. HTC's all about wasting time.
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Well, HTC may be about "wasting time" but I assure you a phone carrier isn't about wasting money on a device that will essentially be obsolete within the month they release it. Case in point no north american phone carrier's are introducing any android devices that aren't running android 2.2 or able to upgrade to it, why should bell/virgin mobile be any different?
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Good news, i am waiting it. BTW, does anyone have link to stock ROM froyo for any device? Pls give me the link, i'll try to port it for legend.
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The legitimate release hasn't been release, although litterally 5 minutes ago I saw reports on endgadget that small ota's of frf83 we're infact being pushed out via ota right now.
Also in this forum section someone is currently developing froyo and hopes to release it by the weekend, maybe send that person a pm?
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Well I've heard multiple times before this that customer service reps from htc have also confirmed the update to froyo for the legend. The most recent being an email from a customer service rep stating that the user fear not about his flash playing troubles because android 2.2 and incidentally flash 10.1 would be released for the htc legend within the next 2 weeks.
Follow this up by the recent release of flash 10.1 for android 2.2 and the release of the android 2.2 source code being released today the statement of "within the next 2 weeks" seem to be exactly what is happening. Not only is android 2.2 pretty much here but will be available sooner rather then later. To add further flame to the fire htc repeatedly said android 2.2 will be supported by almost all 2010 devices and with the desire being more widely available and more powerful it is more likely to be put in with definite android 2.2 compatible even though the desire and legend get almost always get updates at the same time.
The most likely reason the statement was pulled? Well it must simply be due to google not publishing the source code yet, thus letting people essentially know froyo is ready.
Htc most certainly can't pull the plug on 2.2 before google itself does. But! Now that it has published final froyo source code it is 99.9% done and is most likely waiting to be uploaded to the server.
My uneducated guess is that we'll see froyo on the legend by mid july at the latest.
Also not sure if anyone thought of this, but bell (and indirectly virgin mobile canada) are not stupid companies. They are introducing a new android phone and thus throwing massive amounts of ad $ and marketing into it, from both bell/virgin AND htc itself. Remember this is virgins FIRST android set and bells 4th or 5th, they would most likely have talked to htc to make sure the device is upgradeable to the newest android. They just started selling it, they aren't going to allow it to be out dated within the month its released! If the did it would be a waste on advertising and a waste of introducing a new phone.
That's just my 2 cents, but it seems very logical to me, how about you?
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I totally agree witjh you. Froyo for legend is sure as it is sure for desire. These two phones will receive the update in the same time I think . Anyway your point is the only point with a sense. I think the same.
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I totally agree witjh you. Froyo for legend is sure as it is sure for desire. These two phones will receive the update in the same time I think . Anyway your point is the only point with a sense. I think the same.
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well i'm glad someone does. but you are right, this is currently all speculation and my point.. although it does all seem to add up correctly.
i guess only time will tell, but i'm not worried
it's confirmed too by HTC European customer service
I've got confirmed as well by the European customer service by an E-mail that a 2.2 upgrade will be available for the Legend in a month. I'm counting back too everyday.
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I've got confirmed as well by the European customer service by an E-mail that a 2.2 upgrade will be available for the Legend in a month. I'm counting back too everyday.
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This sounds promising
Well i am keeping my fingers crossed for froyo & gingerbread as well .....
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I've got confirmed as well by the European customer service by an E-mail that a 2.2 upgrade will be available for the Legend in a month. I'm counting back too everyday.
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@mihalyf, Could you please post a screenshot of the email or a proof of the confirmation from customer service?
.. Well, blurring out whatever you think is necessary of course..
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@mihalyf, Could you please post a screenshot of the email or a proof of the confirmation from customer service?
.. Well, blurring out whatever you think is necessary of course..
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here you are
.... I am sure you can appreciate that it is out of bounce for me to promise an exact date on the launch of the new upgrade.
I can however say that this upgrade will come during this month.
Sorry I cannot be more specific about this. ....
Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Is there a better community of beta testers than xda-developers?
I'm very happy with all my Samsung mobiles (...,blade, i780, Omnia2, ...) I hope Samsung STEP IN into this community and help us help them
Samsung: let us test your Beta please (We do it for free!)
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Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Agreed you are mean
I nearly fell from chair.
IF they would release thier Froyo as beta to this forum - they could get beta feedback by reading about bugs posted by us AND does not have to deal with the consequences we know how to reflash - "normal" users dont.
So Win Win for both.
Yeah, you really should have titled the thread as a question. As worded, it makes folks think it's actually happened.
LOL at people's hopes being dashed.
there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
Samsung, your turn.
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FROYO
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there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
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Already Alpha versions out :|? What!? Where?
Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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I fired up a google search and i found a lot of hits about a froyo alpha on a galaxy spica. Maybe some things got mixed up.
Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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You're absolutely right. However i have a HTC Magic (very old android phone) and i'm running Froyo and it rocks =) hehehe, i know, i know, it's not official
Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
I'm selling my HTC Magic right now to help buying this phone
Cheers,
Phk
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Yep we sure are
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
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Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Yep we sure are
Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Possibly but I think I have to go with the sceptic masses here that say samsung support isn't good in longterm and so I guess they won't do that. Unless ofc gingerbread is going to bring the massive UI update that vanilla android so desperately needs for usablity and samsung decides that touchwiy isnt necessary anymore.
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Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
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There are developers assigned to port CyanogenMod to the Vibrant (T-Mobile US version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729364
Unfortunately, looking at Wes Garner's Twitter, he seems rather more keen on the Slide than the Vibrant:
I like the slide better
@wesgarner so does that mean your gonna keep developing for the slide?
@XJRodzx probably more for it than the vibrant
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So don't know how that's necessarily going to work out. The intention is there, though, anyway - hope it's still in progress!
I have doubts with Gingerbread...from what we know so far, it's supposed to have a (MUCH NEEDED!) UI overhaul based around the Gallery's sexy look.
If a phone is launched with a certain interface, chances are the manufacturer probably wouldn't be keen on releasing an update that changes everything because of the issue with it being different to what the buyer paid for. Basically, it changes the product, and the picture on the box is no longer what you've bought. It's all well and good with something like Eclair to Froyo since it's largely just performance improvements and some new features rather than an overhaul.
If anything, I think Samsung would be more likely to release a new version of the Galaxy S at Gingerbread's launch. Much like it's doubtful the HTC Desire / Evo 4G / Incredible will get Gingerbread updates. Instead, HTC will probably have new devices ready for the new interface.
The Nexus One is the only current device I believe has a chance of Gingerbread, mainly because it's the 'official' Google phone and has been promoted and sold as a developer phone.They'll be wanting some nice apps ready for Gingerbread when it launches which will obviously need to be in development before Gingerbread-equipped phones launch.
Gingerbread will most likely be brought to the nexus one but what about 3.0 and beyond? Do you think they will make a new device? Possibly the n2? What about tablets? Will they start a new android line just for tablets. The android phpne market is very spread out right now, phones like the Motorola charm will probobly never see froyo but phones like the Droid x and vibrant have processors that will not become outdated for several years to come. Are company's updating hardware too quickly?
This is the development forum. You want the q n a forum.
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Gingerbread will most likely be brought to the nexus one but what about 3.0 and beyond? Do you think they will make a new device? Possibly the n2? What about tablets? Will they start a new android line just for tablets. The android phpne market is very spread out right now, phones like the Motorola charm will probobly never see froyo but phones like the Droid x and vibrant have processors that will not become outdated for several years to come. Are company's updating hardware too quickly?
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mnv710 said:
Gingerbread will most likely be brought to the nexus one but what about 3.0 and beyond? Do you think they will make a new device? Possibly the n2? What about tablets? Will they start a new android line just for tablets. The android phpne market is very spread out right now, phones like the Motorola charm will probobly never see froyo but phones like the Droid x and vibrant have processors that will not become outdated for several years to come. Are company's updating hardware too quickly?
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The HTC magic, the 2nd ever android phone, got official Froyo. If a phone isn't getting it, its not because it's underpowered (with the exception of the G1).
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The HTC magic, the 2nd ever android phone, got official Froyo. If a phone isn't getting it, its not because it's underpowered (with the exception of the G1).
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Huh? The magic is a G1 less the keyboard. Processor is the same. And I think a rooted G1 can have 2.2.
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Huh? The magic is a G1 less the keyboard. Processor is the same. And I think a rooted G1 can have 2.2.
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The G1 is memory starved. A rooted G1 can have froyo with the proper SPL.
We will get every future Android update.
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I don't think there needs to be a tablet developer platform designated. Screen resolution differences are something that should be simple enough d'or developers to figure out.
The entire point of a developer platform device is to develop the core OS updates on it, so I fully expect at least another year of official updates for the N1. Especially because we haven't actually seen any faster processor released into the market yet.
The secondary point of a designated developer platform would be to support a core of standard hardware under Android. Smarter OEMs should understand that if they want to have less work to port android to their devices, and to get updates on their devices more quickly, they should try to use hardware components either common to ADP or that have Linux support.
Sure, OEMs can deviate, but anything they include that isn't either compatible with ADP hardware, or already supported in Linux will have to be supported by the company making that handset. So it is up to the consumers to say if they want devices more like the Desire, or more like the X10. Laf!
The Nexus One is the official Google Development phone. Until that changes, we shouldn't have to worry about getting the latest versions first
It is one of the advantages to being a N1 owner.
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We will get every future Android update.
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Deserts are my N1's favorite meal!
Android mean Google, then there is no point to buy any phone even if it's amazing, i am with Google devices till they close the company N1 TO N100 i am with Google i just want they put some color in this coming build i feel the stock ROM is black and white
Im on a kb2 froyo bought from att are they going to release a GB update or did the S II release kill the initiative
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No one really knows. But Samsung has 2 version of GB that they have been working with. Nothing to do but wait. FYI ATT doesn't have to release it, samsung could release on their site (its a possibility)
In case you guys didn't see this, it's the official announcement from ATT that GB is indeed coming to Captivate. We just don't know exactly when...
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=20407&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=32234&mapcode=mobile-devices
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In case you guys didn't see this, it's the official announcement from ATT that GB is indeed coming to Captivate. We just don't know exactly when...
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=20407&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=32234&mapcode=mobile-devices
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Yea but took how long for froyo? And with new devices like Galaxy S2 Galaxy Note, so on and forth captivate isnt high on their list.
Is it possible to go into the att store and get the update
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Well, to my understanding, the thread was about IF they were releasing GB. We know that they are. And, yes, I too agree that they GSII is a priority for the company. But I am sure there is some group of people at Samsung and ATT that have the design and release of GB for Captivate a priority. The reason we won't get it for a while (I believe) is because they want us to go buy the new phones instead of getting free updates now.
Froyo took a long time, indeed. But again, I believe that OS upgrades are released at strategic times, not necessarily when they are ready.
I believe I read that Samsung said it will deliver the newest android os for 18 months after devices are sold. So yes they (samsung) will be giving us gingerbread. I would THINK it will be AFTER other phones like the SGS2 are available for a bit. So that also should mean that the SGS2 at least will also see IceCream Sandwich soon enough. Whether the Captivate gets icecream sandwich officially should be the bigger question. I know I read this somewhere on the net that Samsung said this is how they would be doing it from now on, they are trying to keep people happier in the future rather than the bad Rep they got over the froyo fiasco with our devices. I am sure if you did a search on the net you should be able to find those articles somewhere.
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Mid October and no gingerbread news? Anyone have anything new on it?
Yeah, what he said..
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They don't want us to have gb.
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Yes.
Yeah, I'm Homeless.
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Mid October and no gingerbread news? Anyone have anything new on it?
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Patience... It's coming. While I share your anticipation, I figure that it will be worth the wait since the boys here will take it and run with it. Just like the other roms that have been released so far, it's definitely been worth waiting for.
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Yea I'm trying to be patient about it. When I had my droid 2 I was being patient and it never happened. So my patience is running thin. Haha
This reminds me of when I had my HTC eris. It seemed to take forever for 2.1 to come out for it! Mainly because the sense UI had to be completely updated to be compatible. Not sure what the delay is in this case, but I'm sure it will be worth it.
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Clearly it's coming since it's on the esteem and the esteem is essentially the revolution. Should be coming.soon
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Take most rumor dates and add 4 to 6 weeks to them with VZW. I do not expect to see GB much before January or February which I find pointless as ICS could just as easily be configured for the Revo...
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Clearly it's coming since it's on the esteem and the esteem is essentially the revolution. Should be coming.soon
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Yes and no... Esteem built for MPCS and Revo for VZW. Verizon does not necessarily have, want, or need to push GB to this phone. I honestly expect to see the Revo to hit EOL list soon. [sarcasm] It is nearly 6 months old [/sarcasm]
Total speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the reason for the delay
is so that they can find as many ways as possible to lock it down from being rooted. Considering VZW is in the business of CONTROLLING what you can and cannot do (unless you pay then more) with your open source based smart phone. I wouldn't put this past them. :-/
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Might also be that they are waiting until there is a release of the Revo 2 with stock GB (if the rumors are correct) and they dont want people to have reasons not to upgrade to a new product.
I am on MPCS and had the Ascend with stock 2.1 and even though there were rumors of a 2.2 update, it did not happen until after the Ascend 2 came out with 2.2 stock.
Dunno, just a thought....still hope it comes soon for all the Revo people in waiting.
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Might also be that they are waiting until there is a release of the Revo 2 with stock GB (if the rumors are correct) and they dont want people to have reasons not to upgrade to a new product.
I am on MPCS and had the Ascend with stock 2.1 and even though there were rumors of a 2.2 update, it did not happen until after the Ascend 2 came out with 2.2 stock.
Dunno, just a thought....still hope it comes soon for all the Revo people in waiting.
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I don't know about them holding the update until the revo 2 comes out... There's a lot of evidence telling us its coming soon like the posts on the LG site and the picture saying the revo is updateable to 2.3... But you could be right nobody really knows...
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Going to Verizon tomorrow...I will ask I have a goof friend there...maybe he will tell be a little something
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Going to Verizon tomorrow...I will ask I have a goof friend there...maybe he will tell be a little something
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If he works at a store... they are generally last to know anything.
I do not really care anymore at this point. I have decided to wait for February, upgrade one of my other lines and switch to the nexus prime. By February the prime should be out, and updated with fixes and running smooth. It also gives devs sometime to tweak and fiddle. I will then sell my revo.
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If he works at a store... they are generally last to know anything.
I do not really care anymore at this point. I have decided to wait for February, upgrade one of my other lines and switch to the nexus prime. By February the prime should be out, and updated with fixes and running smooth. It also gives devs sometime to tweak and fiddle. I will then sell my revo.
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I love my Android and it's customizing abilities, so don't get me wrong on this statement, but WP7 has been starting to catch my interest. Of course, I have at least another year before I have to think about upgrading, but since I am a MS programmer, the thought of owning one intrigues me.
I have been with Android for years, but the more I read about the troubles developers have with this platform, the less I believe it will ever be a unified architecture. The problem is that they are developing on a Linux base with fragmented (if not non-existent) standards, with several "one off" branches.
What this means for the gaming industry and high end graphics capabilities is that this platform has a strong likelihood of never reaching it's full hardware potential. Reading comments from large institutions like Electronic Arts on the difficulty in developing for the platform and seeing the Android market further sink into mini-walled gardens due to "perceived" compatibility issues, my hopes for this platform are slowly starting to come into question.
That's unfortunate, because I love the idea, I love the freedom, and I think I would hate living in a design chosen for me, but at the end of the day, it's going to be the quality of apps, and how well the device runs with the operating system, as well as the compatibility of apps that's going to make a difference.
Maybe my mind will change over the next year or so with the release of ICS (hate that name), but right now, I don't have much hope of seeing this OS going in a direction any different than the current state of Linux.
It's functional, it's powerful, but I want EVERYTHING Android has the capability of doing, not just the bits and pieces they deem worthy of my branded device. My video chip is every bit as powerful as the competing OS devices, so I want to actual see the potential realized!
The Amazon store, the NVidia store, the restrictions with the Market, it's all contributing to putting gated communities up around every subsection of Android. Honestly, I grow tired of it...
Not sure if anyone caught this news back in the spring or remembers... but the update is more than likely coming. Google is "encouraging" manufacturers to keep their phones up to date for 18 months after release. LG and Verizon are supposedly on board. Course, this doesn't mean much, but it is hope.
http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
I agree with majorpay. So much potential yet so much pussyfooting around in an attempt to squeeze money out of people. I mean that's the whole point of marketing but I think its kind of ridiculous that when an update comes out everyone running the os has no real guarantee of getting it. And if they did promise it. They don't have to promise when. Android is a tank of an os. Wish we could have the current version when its available and not have to wait till our carrier or manufacturer is ready to release it.
what happens first Revo getting GB or ICS launching?
then how long before people start wanting ICS.
Me i have 1 upgrade on my account left and just waiting for either the Prime and or see whats coming out early next yer.
don't take this the wrong way i LOVE the Rev over any other phone on verizon right now BUT it seems like LG is holding back..this phone should have launched with GB there was no reason for it not to. now it sounds like there waiting for the Revo 2 to launch before updating it.
rant done for now
majorpay said:
I love my Android and it's customizing abilities, so don't get me wrong on this statement, but WP7 has been starting to catch my interest. Of course, I have at least another year before I have to think about upgrading, but since I am a MS programmer, the thought of owning one intrigues me.
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don't feel bad. I was at an ATT store with a friend and was checking out the HD7s and was highly impressed with it. It was super smooth and fast, had decent specs. Overall a really nice phone. If Verizon had a comparable phone (trophy is not near the level of the hd7s) I would have considered it.
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don't feel bad. I was at an ATT store with a friend and was checking out the HD7s and was highly impressed with it. It was super smooth and fast, had decent specs. Overall a really nice phone. If Verizon had a comparable phone (trophy is not near the level of the hd7s) I would have considered it.
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I would *suspect* WP7 is going to start bringing REAL phones to the table within the next year or so (they kind of have to if they want to stay in the game). It will be interesting to see what impact on those of us in the Android world it will have. Unless Android can unify their architecture and make dev friendly APIs and standards, they are going to lose this game as quickly as they started winning it. On that note, I'll never purchase an Apple. Put a gun to my head, and it's still likely not going to happen.
Another interesting point you make there, that I've never understood, is that Verizon, one of the largest providers in the nation, always seems to be the last to get the greatest hardware.