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Hey guys, well with the Tilt coming out I want to get the best price, but I see that the best prices are giving to new customers. I'm already an AT&T customer and have a long time before I can upgrade. I currently have the 8525.
How can I get the Tilt for around $350? I don't know anyone at a store. Has anyone ever bought a phone as a "new" customer and then cancelled the service right away? What fees are payed and how exactly is this done?
Any advice?!
Sorry Man thats just a cheap question to ask... You get what you pay for is the best lesson in life. I dont think any here will help you plan BS
Your best bet is to wait 4-6 months after AT&T releases the tilt and then look to Ebay...
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Hey guys, well with the Tilt coming out I want to get the best price, but I see that the best prices are giving to new customers. I'm already an AT&T customer and have a long time before I can upgrade. I currently have the 8525.
How can I get the Tilt for around $350? I don't know anyone at a store. Has anyone ever bought a phone as a "new" customer and then cancelled the service right away? What fees are payed and how exactly is this done?
Any advice?!
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You can cancel the service, but seeing as how you will have a new contract they will charge you the cancel fee. If you cannot wait then you need to purchase the phone at whatever price they give you. Personally, I'm on a family plan and will be using the upgrade credit from another line to get the phone @ $299.
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Sorry Man thats just a cheap question to ask... You get what you pay for is the best lesson in life. I dont think any here will help you plan BS
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Cmon you don't get what you pay for with phones, -its a big game. Were all paying different prices for the same product.
I got screwed out of 200 bucks on an iphone for my wife because of 48 hrs.
We didn't create the game, the phone companies create the game were just trying to play it. if they just offered it for a price thats one thing, but there are 10 different ways to get this thing at a different price.
easiest way is someone else said, ad a phone an a family plan and reduce the other line to minimum. you ad 10 bucks a month to the bill and get the incentive. Basically your financing the incentive as you will pay 240$ over 2 years with the add on plan.
one thing you can do is to register for a business license and get a sellers permit then you can buy it from manufacturer at cost. just a thought...
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one thing you can do is to register for a business license and get a sellers permit then you can buy it from manufacturer at cost. just a thought...
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I do have a connection at a cingular store and one thing I learned is that they really only need about 6 months into the 2 year to upgrade you. I have never waited for upgrading. You have to be connected though which means go talk to a rep and make a friend and then bring a red bull in the next time as a peace offering
That's not all you need. Good luck getting the manufacturer to give you a good price on one unit.
The best prices are usually for corporate customers, and by corporate I don't mean "business license", I mean "big company that buys MANY phones and service contracts". Basically the best price you can get is a matter of luck and who you know - There are usually no extra tricks available. Either you're eligible for certain deals or you're not.
amazon has it for $50 after rebates with a new service...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WSP16I
You might find brand new tilt at ebay for around $370. (Sim locked though.) It is not easy to find though. I watched a few of them. The cheapest I watched was $365 for a brand new tilt sim locked.
You can easily unlocked yourself.
Sales / Rebates
You could wait for one of AT&T's sales to buy it at $250.00 with a $100.00 rebate. Then call AT&T and if you get a nice representative, ask if they will process the rebate for you; which, if they do, may take the shape of a 'courtesy credit', bringing you down to $150.00. Then, fill out the rebate form, mail it in, and wait. Once you get the rebate, the phone will have been $50.00.
I've been looking for a good deal on a tilt for a while. It doesn't even have to be a still but just a good price. On AT&T site its not that good of a dea plus the fact I have to renew my contract which I'm only 2 months away from being out of.
Listen, all you have to do is go to amazon.com. They will sell you the phone for 200 dollars! All you have to do is either sign up for a two year contract with att or renew your contract. Also you cant break your contract or change your service package for 6 months. I did it and I have a very nice tilt....Filled with a whole bunch of stuff. It would be filled with more if people would response a little faster on this damn forum.
I upgraded from my old razr to a tilt and i got it straight up for $185 with no data plan or anything from the cingular store.
Just logged in to my company's AT&T Premier site - the Tilt is available now for $399 (!). I was hoping for $299 before rebates......
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Just logged in to my company's AT&T Premier site - the Tilt is available now for $399 (!). I was hoping for $299 before rebates......
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P.S. Looks like I can upgrade to the Tilt (no new contract) for $399 as well - I chose 'Upgrade Device Only', which allowed me to keep my current plan unchanged (including my trusty Medianet service).
yep, i was just getting ready to post this..
Included Accessories
1350 mAh Lithium Ion Polymer Battery
AC Wall Charger
Mini USB Sync Cable
Stylus
Extra Sylus
My wallet is at work and AT&T has the Tilt ready for me
Yeah I was hoping for a better price too. If you do the upgrade device only, I know it leaves your plan intact. Does it extend your contract 2 years though?
Where the heck is PDA Personal Max? Does anyone have it in their list? I HAVE a cell card, I don't need tethering, dagnabit!
And no data plan discount? We're better off getting it from the retail site!
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Yeah I was hoping for a better price too. If you do the upgrade device only, I know it leaves your plan intact. Does it extend your contract 2 years though?
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I'm wondering the same thing - I got to the very end of the process and had to click to agree to a Service Agreement that specified 2yrs. I asked this same question in another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334349&page=3
Richard
I had an option to upgrade the phone only for 399 or upgrade the device and plan as well..so i tried to see if price is goona changed it did,instant 100$ off and 25 dollar instant credit..275 plus tax and 18 dollar upgrade fee because I bought the 8525 like 3 months ago. because it seemed like I bought new plan and data plan,I can get the 100 MIR as well,they won't have esxuce not to give,,I saved 225$..so I really don't understand the big deal if they exttend the contract you know..if a better phone comes I can do the same process over and over again,with out having to wait 2 years,,so the money I will save over time is justified if I have to abondan my contract and pay 175$ one day.. what do you guys think?
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II really don't understand the big deal if they exttend the contract you know
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FWIW, in the other thread I referenced above, at least one person has confirmed contract extension showing on his account after the $399 deal
As far as the "big deal" on contract, my company pays for my phone and the monthly bill is a LOT more than I'd carry personally. I don't want to be at my company's mercy if they decide they don't need me to have a phone (or don't need me at all) with 23 mos left on a contract. Sure, they *SHOULD* cover the ETF but why risk it....
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in your case yeah its a big deal but for me when I just saved over 200 with the extention,I don't mind the possibility to be punished 175 only. 399+tax VS 274.99+tax is a difference that I can't let go,couldn't live with myself haha.I can extent again in 6 months if they come up with a better phone..so I am in control and getting the discounts ..you know...but for you ,no contract is clean and necessary..
So I was all pumped about getting an HD 7 and thought since WP 7is brand new to market, they would be opening up upgrade pricing to anyone. But, have come to find out, that's not happening. They can do it with iPhone releases and its just OS updates as WP 7 is. Someone tell me I'm not going to have to pay full price, especially since I got my HD 2 about 8-9 mths ago and was the only reason I switched to T-mobile.
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Anyone?.....
I called Tmobile and they said they dont have any info until later this week. Cant wait! I hate my Samsung Vibrant
the hd7 is on O2 not t-mobile, this could be one reason they wont offer an upgrade to it.
You can buy it on pay as you go for £380 (really good price) or do what i did and sell your phone and use the cash to buy out the contract then get a new one (my dad bought my desire and I paid off my contract and still had some cash left to buy my wife some jeans and shoes).
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I called Tmobile and they said they dont have any info until later this week. Cant wait! I hate my Samsung Vibrant
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Yeah, I called them too and they seemed pretty firm on not budging on allowing any kind of early upgrade for me (said to wait 6 mths and I started service with them in Mar. getting my HD2) at release time. They said I'll just have to wait until it comes out and could see what happens with them selling it for a lower\non-contract price.
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the hd7 is on O2 not t-mobile, this could be one reason they wont offer an upgrade to it.
You can buy it on pay as you go for £380 (really good price) or do what i did and sell your phone and use the cash to buy out the contract then get a new one (my dad bought my desire and I paid off my contract and still had some cash left to buy my wife some jeans and shoes).
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It's on Tmobile here in the USA exclusively. I thought about selling my HD2, but I really want to keep that phone forever. I've sold every other one (sometimes not needing to) and everyone now and then I regret it. So, I promised I would never give up the HD2. It was the beginning of an era and the best thing winmo ever ran on.
Oh oops my bad i keep forgetting that there is a world outside of this tiny island lol
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Oh oops my bad i keep forgetting that there is a world outside of this tiny island lol
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LOL! No, I totally understand and maybe $500 or so will be worth it. It's just the uncertainty of WP7 (although I'm sure I'll love it) missing some of the things I've become accustomed to.
The only time Tmo budges on upgrades is if a customer has been with em for more then 2 years or/and is over 14 months since their last upgrade and with that said all that depends on the rep/sup you talk too...only reason is tmo is coming out with so many new phones between now and Q2 due to the new hspa+ network....and if they continue to hand out early upgrades each time a new phone comes out we are losing a lot of money...also with it being around Christmas all tenure customers are calling in wanting full discounts....and when customers are wanting a full discount on a $550 phone before thier commitment time that difference comes out of tmo pocket....Tmo sells the phones not make em...
Remember you're not dealing with ATT or apple here so u cant really compare it to the iphone release....maybe u can call HTC and see if they'll switch it out for you lol im just saying...You made a choice of signing a 2 year contract 8-9 months ago to get a discount on the HD2....Tmo is out to make thier customers happy but everytime a new phone comes out we cant continue to hand out cause YOU feel its the right thing to do since u switch from a diff provider...They still have to run a company
And just so you know the only reason ATT offered the upgrade early for the iPhone 4 is because June 1st they increased their ETF to $375 so they were getting thier customers under this new contract policy by giving out early upgrades when the Iphone 4 released on July 27th
Sooo with all that said good Luck on getting that full discount...u might talk to the right rep and they will work it out for u
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The only time Tmo budges on upgrades is if a customer has been with em for more then 2 years or/and is over 14 months since their last upgrade and with that said all that depends on the rep/sup you talk too...only reason is tmo is coming out with so many new phones between now and Q2 due to the new hspa+ network....and if they continue to hand out early upgrades each time a new phone comes out we are losing a lot of money...also with it being around Christmas all tenure customers are calling in wanting full discounts....and when customers are wanting a full discount on a $550 phone before thier commitment time that difference comes out of tmo pocket....Tmo sells the phones not make em...
Remember you're not dealing with ATT or apple here so u cant really compare it to the iphone release....maybe u can call HTC and see if they'll switch it out for you lol im just saying...You made a choice of signing a 2 year contract 8-9 months ago to get a discount on the HD2....Tmo is out to make thier customers happy but everytime a new phone comes out we cant continue to hand out cause YOU feel its the right thing to do since u switch from a diff provider...They still have to run a company
And just so you know the only reason ATT offered the upgrade early for the iPhone 4 is because June 1st they increased their ETF to $375 so they were getting thier customers under this new contract policy by giving out early upgrades when the Iphone 4 released on July 27th
Sooo with all that said good Luck on getting that full discount...u might talk to the right rep and they will work it out for u
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Man, you must work for them for sure Especially with the "we" references. lol and JK. But, I understand your point and I'm sure tmob makes that difference up in the price I pay for service Or else they would never offer or upgrade people early. And besides that, I don't even care if they update my contract and extend 2 yrs from the day they give me the discount. So, increasing my contract every time I do that would benefit them, I would imagine? And I don't want to change phones every time one comes out. ONLY a great one from HTC, which at most may be every year, as slow as we get things here in the US. lol. Didn't know the stuff about ATT and the iPhone upgrade, so thanks for that piece of knowledge. All I'm saying is, I can disconnect a line and add a line at Wal-Mart, for cheaper (don't really care what phone number I have), so Tmob might as well put that money in their pocket and save the hassle. I have 3 lines (all ready to buy a new phone) and still have 2 lines with ATT. So, it's no joke with my service and ATT learned the hard way about not keeping up with device releases as they lost a lot of people for simply not carrying and providing what their customer's asked.
hi all,
I want to purchase Note 8, but it seems to much expensive for my budget. Even though with free gifts (which you can resell) if you add up taxes, it will come up the same.
What you guy think, lets say if i wait 2-3 months the price will really drop ( I am wiling to wait until the end of year if it make sense )?
One possible scenario is they may drop the price a little bit, but also discontinue gift option, which no make sense for me.
Does anyone aware of recent dynamics, based on previous Galaxy models, lets say S8 or so?
Or , does price really drops on Black friday?
Thanks in advance.
I got my note 5 at Sam's on a preblack Friday for a $1 a few years ago
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hi all,
I want to purchase Note 8, but it seems to much expensive for my budget. Even though with free gifts (which you can resell) if you add up taxes, it will come up the same.
What you guy think, lets say if i wait 2-3 months the price will really drop ( I am wiling to wait until the end of year if it make sense )?
One possible scenario is they may drop the price a little bit, but also discontinue gift option, which no make sense for me.
Does anyone aware of recent dynamics, based on previous Galaxy models, lets say S8 or so?
Or , does price really drops on Black friday?
Thanks in advance.
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I suggest this will depend on where you live and how you make your purchase and what you are prepared to gamble.
In my country there are zero 'contract' sales. we all have to buy our mobiles at top price. There is also a sales price that all outlets maintain meaning regardless where one buys, it will be the same price, don't ask it makes zero business sense to me either. Having said that the law, in theory, protects consumers. If we don't like the purchase we have 20 days to return for a full refund. Warranty problems are generally taken care off. In other words its a relatively 'safe' place to buy a mobile.
I am paying 1,020.00€ for the Note 8. My SGS8+ cost 920.00€ , 100.00€ difference but if I take into account the free DEX offer, worth 150.00€ here, my Note 8 is cheaper than the S8+!
Now we go to the 'open market'. This can be a gamble and a nightmare. Sure you may get what you consider a bargain as many did with their Note 7 purchase from Dubai BUT when the woopsie hit the fan while I got a full refund on the spot TWICE for both iterations, those who bought from some other countries got stuffed. Not all but too many for comfort.
My point is you will get what you pay for. With an expensive purchase like this I use a reputable international outlet, FNAC, and am relatively well looked after. If I choose to do so I could also buy from, say Dubai and save tax etc but....
Amazon CAN BE a good purchase outlet BUT Amazon are using more and more third party sellers and many of those are not based in Europe meaning they are sent from China or where ever and that causes massive import problems here. IF one can purchase an Amazon sourced product that is sold by a vendor within Europe one can, after a small time frame, find the price of such items reduced. Again such reductions can mean grey imports etc. Check the sellers Amazon profile.
For me I pay top price in this country in the city I live near from a reputable outlet and sleep well at night. Not everyone is the same though, thank heavens.
Take care with such purchases its not the initial purchase than can be the problem, the problem is IF the mobile is a brick are you safe in getting a replacement under warranty etc blah blah. You pay your money you accept your choice.
Last point being how long are you willing to wait? Most of us here are techno nuts who want this device yesterday! No way would the majority of my peers here be willing to wait even an extra day to save a euro!
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I suggest this will depend on where you live and how you make your purchase and what you are prepared to gamble.
In my country there are zero 'contract' sales. we all have to buy our mobiles at top price. There is also a sales price that all outlets maintain meaning regardless where one buys, it will be the same price, don't ask it makes zero business sense to me either. Having said that the law, in theory, protects consumers. If we don't like the purchase we have 20 days to return for a full refund. Warranty problems are generally taken care off. In other words its a relatively 'safe' place to buy a mobile.
I am paying 1,020.00€ for the Note 8. My SGS8+ cost 920.00€ , 100.00€ difference but if I take into account the free DEX offer, worth 150.00€ here, my Note 8 is cheaper than the S8+!
Now we go to the 'open market'. This can be a gamble and a nightmare. Sure you may get what you consider a bargain as many did with their Note 7 purchase from Dubai BUT when the woopsie hit the fan while I got a full refund on the spot TWICE for both iterations, those who bought from some other countries got stuffed. Not all but too many for comfort.
My point is you will get what you pay for. With an expensive purchase like this I use a reputable international outlet, FNAC, and am relatively well looked after. If I choose to do so I could also buy from, say Dubai and save tax etc but....
Amazon CAN BE a good purchase outlet BUT Amazon are using more and more third party sellers and many of those are not based in Europe meaning they are sent from China or where ever and that causes massive import problems here. IF one can purchase an Amazon sourced product that is sold by a vendor within Europe one can, after a small time frame, find the price of such items reduced. Again such reductions can mean grey imports etc. Check the sellers Amazon profile.
For me I pay top price in this country in the city I live near from a reputable outlet and sleep well at night. Not everyone is the same though, thank heavens.
Take care with such purchases its not the initial purchase than can be the problem, the problem is IF the mobile is a brick are you safe in getting a replacement under warranty etc blah blah. You pay your money you accept your choice.
Last point being how long are you willing to wait? Most of us here are techno nuts who want this device yesterday! No way would the majority of my peers here be willing to wait even an extra day to save a euro!
Ryland
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hi Ryland,
thanks for taking your time and replying me back.
The main point of this question is, if I wait 3-4 months will price drop ? I know it is hard to tell, but based on other models dynamics what you think?
Or lets say, if it drop just 150$ and no more free stuff , it means no make sense to wait...
I completely share your opinion that it is worth to buy from local authorized resellers...
I am located in USA..
3 to 4 months is a good time.. With s8 plus the prices fell a decent amount in 3 months..
I am on the same boat.. I want to buy a career device may be even used one. I m in Canada
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3 to 4 months is a good time.. With s8 plus the prices fell a decent amount in 3 months..
I am on the same boat.. I want to buy a career device may be even used one. I m in Canada
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yes, thats what I was thinking. Same here, I dont mind to buy a used one. Crossing fingers for battery not to go bad
Lets say how much S8 droped its initial price. I believe when it released, they were giving some extra stuff too, right? If the price just drop about same amount as gift and now dropped price option is withouit gift, it means there is no real drop, in that case no make sense to wait 12+ (3-4) months
In a couple of months you'll be able to get Note 8's off ebay at discounted prices as people will sell who've received free upgrades etc. Also set up Pricespy alerts online. Sometimes sellers offer 10% off deals for instance so you should find something in a few weeks. And of course it depends how successful it is!
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In a couple of months you'll be able to get Note 8's off ebay at discounted prices as people will sell who've received free upgrades etc. Also set up Pricespy alerts online. Sometimes sellers offer 10% off deals for instance so you should find something in a few weeks. And of course it depends how successful it is!
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With holiday season not far off, I am sure Samsung /carriers will have something going
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With holiday season not far off, I am sure Samsung /carriers will have something going
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exactly. I don't think the DEX thing is a good promotion either and obviously no one is buying it and they've a huge stock to dispose of (otherwise why not reduce the price of the phone and make it more attractive). Companies generally won't allow USB devices to connect to laptops and I don't have a screen or keyboard at home as got 2 tablets and a smart tv. There will be loads of DEX for sale for £40 soon as people realise its not getting used.
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exactly. I don't think the DEX thing is a good promotion either and obviously no one is buying it and they've a huge stock to dispose of (otherwise why not reduce the price of the phone and make it more attractive). Companies generally won't allow USB devices to connect to laptops and I don't have a screen or keyboard at home as got 2 tablets and a smart tv. There will be loads of DEX for sale for £40 soon as people realise its not getting used.
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Mmmm, A lot of what you write holds water however I think the DEX, worth 150€ here, is a very nice free offer. I have no interest in the DEX despite being addicted to gadgets and tech toys, I do understand though that the DEX certainly has appeal to a wide range of other users and is one very clever set up.
I would not have bought the DEX simply because I have zero use for it and even though tempted I just knew it would end up in a draw collecting dust. As one is coming free I will try it out then after let it collect dust in a draw.
Just as a foot note the DEX is selling very well here and its been difficult to even find one in stock in any outlet. I guess such hardware sales will vary from country to country though. :good:
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exactly. I don't think the DEX thing is a good promotion either and obviously no one is buying it and they've a huge stock to dispose of (otherwise why not reduce the price of the phone and make it more attractive). Companies generally won't allow USB devices to connect to laptops and I don't have a screen or keyboard at home as got 2 tablets and a smart tv. There will be loads of DEX for sale for £40 soon as people realise its not getting used.
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I agree, they just trying to load as much as they can..
999masks said:
hi all,
I want to purchase Note 8, but it seems to much expensive for my budget. Even though with free gifts (which you can resell) if you add up taxes, it will come up the same.
What you guy think, lets say if i wait 2-3 months the price will really drop ( I am wiling to wait until the end of year if it make sense )?
One possible scenario is they may drop the price a little bit, but also discontinue gift option, which no make sense for me.
Does anyone aware of recent dynamics, based on previous Galaxy models, lets say S8 or so?
Or , does price really drops on Black friday?
Thanks in advance.
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i preordered mine through xfinity mobile pay 100 when it ships for frist month and tax and pay 30 or so a month
and its 200$ off the total price for instead for 900 some thing its 700 something so. and xfinity will unlock it on request for me so i order it have it unlocked and use it on my normal cariier
which if i preorder through tmobile its like 300 out the door and 30 a month and a total price of 930 .. iso i saved 200 buck on it with out doing anything really
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i preordered mine through xfinity mobile pay 100 when it ships for frist month and tax and pay 30 or so a month
and its 200$ off the total price for instead for 900 some thing its 700 something so. and xfinity will unlock it on request for me so i order it have it unlocked and use it on my normal cariier
which if i preorder through tmobile its like 300 out the door and 30 a month and a total price of 930 .. iso i saved 200 buck on it with out doing anything really
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wow, what are the prerequisites?. Do you have wireless plan from Xfinity? or existing account?. Appart of monthly payments (31.67$) do you have to purchase plan ?
can you walk us trough?
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wow, what are the prerequisites?. Do you have wireless plan from Xfinity? or existing account?. Appart of monthly payments (31.67$) do you have to purchase plan ?
can you walk us trough?
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so i have my internet through Xfinity it is kind of required as far as i know. but go to https://www.xfinity.com/mobile/
and you pick the device and the "pay by the gig plan" cause then they dont charge you for data unless you use it. and go from there the note is like 32 bucks they have a protection plan for 12 more also. and after all of it you pay the 1st month payment on the phone (32) and the taxes (mine came to 67 bucks) so a total of 102 bucks give or take for me to preorder the Note8.
Hard to beat Verizon + Best Buy offer! $12.75/mo for 24 months is outstanding for a phone of this quality. That's what, $300? Tough to beat!
Find someone who had the Note 7 and doesn't want to Note 8 and use their promo to get the $425 Trade in
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so i have my internet through Xfinity it is kind of required as far as i know. but go to https://www.xfinity.com/mobile/
and you pick the device and the "pay by the gig plan" cause then they dont charge you for data unless you use it. and go from there the note is like 32 bucks they have a protection plan for 12 more also. and after all of it you pay the 1st month payment on the phone (32) and the taxes (mine came to 67 bucks) so a total of 102 bucks give or take for me to preorder the Note8.
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this is terms and conditions I found :
"Device Payment Pricing & Other Info
Offers valid 8/25/17 through 9/13/17. Restrictions apply. $200 savings off regular retail price when activating a new XFINITY Mobile line of service. Valid on select devices. While supplies last. Limit 5 per account. © 2017 Comcast. All rights reserved.
Additional fees, such as those for government taxes and regulatory recovery fees, apply."
so basically in order to get the phone, you have to activate a new mobile line.
gingi999 said:
Find someone who had the Note 7 and doesn't want to Note 8 and use their promo to get the $425 Trade in
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the chances are 1:100
PsiPhiDan said:
Hard to beat Verizon + Best Buy offer! $12.75/mo for 24 months is outstanding for a phone of this quality. That's what, $300? Tough to beat!
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where did you found that one, BB shows 32.75$ for 24 months?..
I think I will wait for few more months also I am considering to buy Exynos, unlocked version
It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
You're insane.
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Really, care to explain why? Lowest retail price has dropped over 700 Euros in less than 2 months.
Samsung are well known for front-loading pricing, and quickly tapering it to distributors and wholesalers, but it's never been quite like this. The device is clearly intended to sell in volume, and not be the flagship for anything like as long as the Fold 1.
Re: development, plenty of 800-1200 Euro devices see lots of development.
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It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
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Some links as evidence of brand new / unused prices as per your post?
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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No phones at that link.
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Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
StormCell said:
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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I know it's probably a foreign concept, but supply chains and retail channels are relatively competitive in Europe .. particularly Germany.
Probably seems unreal to you when informal price fixing in a hugely non-competitive market rules in the US ... and you just got a Verizon Fold 2 for $$$$$$$$$$, with no hope of waiting for discounts.
Why do you think anyone with a clue in the US buys from European retailers? Price including tax in Europe (which you don't pay) is usually much cheaper than price excluding tax at US retailers, save for Apple. That's what no competition does.
And now you're mad and refuse to believe anything.
Flavio said:
Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
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Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
dezborders said:
Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
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Lol.
Are you really not able to use price comparison sites or enter search terms and use filters on Ebay?
Rhetorical question. Evidently not.
Flavio said:
Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
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I don't think any contract phones have been branded / locked for 5-6 years in DE ... and he appears to be implying these are secondhand contract phones. I'm not even sure heavily subsidised pay as you go phones are branded anymore.
Lowest retail price for sealed NIB Fold 2 in DE is 1149.99 today. It has been lower. Trend is still downwards quickly though.
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
ricksmad said:
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
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Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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santjust said:
Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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I bought this Fold 2 for one month ago too in Germany ebay kleinanzeigen 1350 Euro) . some people buy buissness phone cards with a fold 2 and they sell the fold 2 and use the phone card.
Now it is sometimes a little bit cheaper but ok .... I use it for over a month now and I love this phone ! So great stuff Samsung did here ...
You can buy these used for around $1400 US off of Ebay (which is around 1250 Euro, which is what I see it for on the German eBay site). Hoping for a slight bit more of a price drop from Black Friday, but I noticed that Samsung is still selling it for its original price, and they've dropped the price of trade ins by around $200.
I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
krabman said:
I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I'm looking to buy it again, and I'm not seeing all these great deals. Samsung's site is $1999, unless you trade in a device. The deals on eBay are ok for a used device, but not great. Amazon has some refurbs for $300 off, which is ok, but again, it's a refurb, to which they only promise that you won't notice a problem "holding it at arm's length". I haven't seen any sign of a new unit coming down in price from $2k.
Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
dezborders said:
Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
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It's good advice, and I am worried about it. I see a number of devices for sale that say they're on a contract. Kind of terrifying that someone decides to switch providers and suddenly my phone is blacklisted.
Starting to hope for a Black Friday sale!