can anyone recommend a good task killer? ive tried atk on 2.2 but its very sluggish. i dl task panel x and it doesnt update frequently lol. i have autokiller memory but not sure if i am using it right lol. so if anyone is using a task killer, what r u using and r u getting good results? thanks in advance!
Do not use autokiller. I can't remember what problem it causes but it does indeed cause a problem on all galaxy phones. Or at laast my fascinate
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You shouldn't need one from all I've read about it.
but I use system panel to kill an app here and there.
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Don't bother using a task killer. I used Advance Task Killer for the last two weeks but it probably hampered things more than it helped. Your phone will NOT slow down to a crawl. Most custom ROMs use good minfree settings that'll keep your phone snappy.
Just uninstall your task killer, or if you want to use it, turn off autostart, turn off autokill, and only use it for pesky apps that won't die.
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can anyone recommend a good task killer? ive tried atk on 2.2 but its very sluggish. i dl task panel x and it doesnt update frequently lol. i have autokiller memory but not sure if i am using it right lol. so if anyone is using a task killer, what r u using and r u getting good results? thanks in advance!
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I was using ATK and could not verify any benefit. I read the following article and gained some more understanding. I have been running without a Task Killer since and I see no loss in performance or battery life. I could say I have less FCs and more reliability with syncing email.
Read This: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
i have been getting random shutdown these few days (started like 3 days ago), about 1 shutdown per day. i'm not sure if it' the stock task manager, dolphin browser beta 4.0, or widget locker 1.2.7 causing it. i already removed stock task manager and downgraded widget locker to 1.2.4 to see what happens.
Task killers aren't generally needed on android. If its battery life you want then for one try not to compulsively look at your phone preventing the cpu from idling and screen from turning off. Get juice defender. It turns off data unless it is needed. Most apps don't use resorces when the phone is asleep unless they are designed to, like file sharing programs or apps that sync data in the background but there are also bad apps. In froyo Use the built in task manager (long prsss on home) to see what's running. If you havent used something in a while and don't need the process active then close it.
If it is performance you want then no task manager will help. You need to alter the minfree setting which manages memory and how apps use it. I use the one click lag fix app to do that. Other apps I used caused problems. I set the minfree to moderate. Its more agressive than stock but doesn't kill processes you might want running. Anything more agressive than that kills allshare while im streaming movies but there is a performance increase when set to optimal or strict however it is slight.
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I was looking at an article about memory management on android. They say that android runs better without any manger. Correction it runs better without a memory manager. Question for you people, what programs do you use and what are your thoughts?
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Most people use these app think it would enhance their performance.
I would certainly not object to such hypothesis.
However, I find that using these app would kill apps either too quickly or too late.
I do realize that there are advance options that would optimize such hassles. But after configuring these options, I found that it's easier to use my device without it.
So my final advise is not use it.
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I think this is true in most cases. However who wants a 3D game running in the background eating up resources?
I recommend using a Task Killer but only killing heavy tasks like games, etc. I used to kill all tasks (which doesn't hurt anything really) but doesn't seem to be 100% necessary.
I also recommend that if you use a task killer (and want to kill all tasks) and a home clock widget (like beautiful widgets) that you add it to the ignore list or the time will eventually become off.
my captivate slows down within 5 mins of heavy use without me killing all tasks periodically with taskiller. thats why apple uses fake multitasking...u cant slow the iphone 4 down with applications in the background even if you try, because essentially there not running.......just paused and resumed.
It seems that one that is a good one to consider is one that tweaks the settings that the native task killer to android uses.
Here is an interesting thread on it. Out of that thread 3 of them have developed. I originally was using Advanced Task Killer, but after reading this thread, I am now using AutoKiller, and think it is doing a good job. And the end result of what to kill is decided by the OS, not the task killer.
The name of it is misleading, ad it does not kill tasks. It just changes the settings that the OS uses to make that decision.
I use ATK. I have security set to high (doesn't show processes), I don't use auto kill, and I have established an ignore list. I find that my device is faster with the way I use the TK.
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So I have heard that using a task killer app could do more harm then good. Is this true? If not, whats a highly recommend task killer app?
Why you shouldn't use them.
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Why you shouldn't use them.
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I read this article via a link from gizmodo and it was very informative. I was using ATK for some time and thought it was doing well. I had no idea that many of the issues I was running into were actually coming from the task killer nixing items I needed running. I realized this after I removed the task killer and installed watchdog.
I am not going to say watchdog was streamlining power house for my phone but, it did allow me to see what was really going on in a much more efficient manner. The information it provides is useful and gives a much better idea of what is consuming all those battery eating clock cycles. I feel more comfortable now knowing what is actually active and whether I need it to be.
Since the change over I have been consuming more battery power but I just changed to Cognition and I have significantly less FCs. This is on top of my recent full time GPS usage and frequent music streaming.
I no most people think that you don't need a task killer on the xoom but I have to disagree my tab lags sometimes when I have to much open and so far with this task killer I have not nearly had any lag. There is only one thing I do not like about it. I wish you could kill the task killer app after your done killing the other apps but when you try to kill it all that happens is you stay in the app. It is made just for the xoom so it is a 3.0 app and it only cost 99 cents and has no ads and the dev says he will update it.
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Advanced Task Killer does a good job of that and it is free. You can also kill ATK when you kill all running apps.
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Advanced Task Killer does a good job of that and it is free. You can also kill ATK when you kill all running apps.
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I used it on xoom before it is better in ways but u can't close everything in it I doesn't let u close setting running services etc.. It does work well but I wanna b able to close everything plus if u do leave them open the xoom one is much smaller file
I cannot stress enough that using a task killer will cause more problems than it solves.
Using a task killer essentially thwarts all the things the OS does to conserve memory and battery and maximize responsiveness.
You're FAR FAR better off getting rid of poorly-written apps you may have installed.
A properly written app will not be using CPU when in the background unless it has a specific or periodic task, in which case it should ONLY operate until its task is completed.
There are a ton of apps out there written by people who didn't bother to read the application lifecycle documents, or any of the android developer blog entries, or the best practice documents, etc. etc.
Think of it this way: Junky apps are fast food. A task killer is lap band surgery. Sure, it gets rid of the fat, but it's horrible for your body in the long run.
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I cannot stress enough that using a task killer will cause more problems than it solves.
Using a task killer essentially thwarts all the things the OS does to conserve memory and battery and maximize responsiveness.
You're FAR FAR better off getting rid of poorly-written apps you may have installed.
A properly written app will not be using CPU when in the background unless it has a specific or periodic task, in which case it should ONLY operate until its task is completed.
There are a ton of apps out there written by people who didn't bother to read the application lifecycle documents, or any of the android developer blog entries, or the best practice documents, etc. etc.
Think of it this way: Junky apps are fast food. A task killer is lap band surgery. Sure, it gets rid of the fat, but it's horrible for your body in the long run.
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Well put some people just don't understand
I had a big post about this a while back, people still dont get it. When my Girlfriend bought her Epic the guy at sprint put ATK on it. I removed it as soon as she showed me.
my sister in-law has the LG Ally and it sucks ass and shes been having issues with it and the people at verizon tell her she just needs to use her task killer more
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I cannot stress enough that using a task killer will cause more problems than it solves.
Using a task killer essentially thwarts all the things the OS does to conserve memory and battery and maximize responsiveness.
You're FAR FAR better off getting rid of poorly-written apps you may have installed.
A properly written app will not be using CPU when in the background unless it has a specific or periodic task, in which case it should ONLY operate until its task is completed.
There are a ton of apps out there written by people who didn't bother to read the application lifecycle documents, or any of the android developer blog entries, or the best practice documents, etc. etc.
Think of it this way: Junky apps are fast food. A task killer is lap band surgery. Sure, it gets rid of the fat, but it's horrible for your body in the long run.
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If you need to close an app because it hangs, use the built in task killer.
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System Panel ftw! I always have it on my devices anyways just to see what's what, and it has an added bonus of an included task killer widget. Doesn't run all the time, you can tune it like any other with what to kill/exclude, and it's just an on-demand kill button on your homepage without going into settings. Best of both worlds imo.
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System Panel ftw! I always have it on my devices anyways just to see what's what, and it has an added bonus of an included task killer widget. Doesn't run all the time, you can tune it like any other with what to kill/exclude, and it's just an on-demand kill button on your homepage without going into settings. Best of both worlds imo.
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Yea system panel is good I love how it shows you what's actually killing the battery unlike the idiots using atk thinkingbtheyre saving battery
I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
There is no more need to use task killer to manage android systems any more. You will be doing more harm than good, in fact there is no good in killing tssks manually.
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Point noted.
But when I use Airdroid task manager, I see a process when the corresponding app is not running the background.
To mention a few; Cut the rope free, stocks & Hill climb racing.
Few system process like picasa uploader, chrome etc.
As you said andoird may optimize most of them, but I would like some control when running thin on battery.
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I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
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use greenify https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=en to hibernate any persisting apps/processes (except system). apps relaunch when you open them.
Killing apps and then having to reload them actually uses more battery than them being dormant in the background and already loaded when called upon. The problem is when you have misbehaving apps that stay in the foreground eating up cpu, instead of going dormant into the background. And this does happen. I use an app called Watchdog that alerts me when this happens. It allows you to kill the app when this happens. It also allows you to whitelist and blacklist apps and processes.
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main phone setting, apps, running.. default task/process manager. in the top right will be an option to show cached process as well.
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main phone setting, apps, running.. default task/process manager. in the top right will be an option to show cached process as well.
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We all know that is there. The op mentioned wanting more options, mainly monitoring and kill options.
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I am wondering if we have a task manager/process explorer app for Nexus 4? Currently I am using AirDroid v2 that includes a task manager, but I am looking for one with more options.
I travel a lot & would like to kill as much unwanted applications running in the background as possible to conserve battery.
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We all know that is there. The op mentioned wanting more options, mainly monitoring and kill options.
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fast reboot(free), but the paid version i like better https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot&hl=en
rayiskon, I will try greenify & let you know how that helps.
fernandezhjr, I agree restarting app is not an optimal way, but I require to squeeze battery to atleast make phone calls when I am away from charging options.
simms22, fast reboot looks promising. I'll try the free one for now and take it from there.
It's kind of already been said, but I want to clarify as much as possible.
Apps running dormant in the background (using RAM) use no more power than if it weren't running. This is because all of the memory you have is being refreshed all the time, the controller has no idea whether there is actually data there, it still refreshes the entire space of memory.
Apps running "dormant" but using CPU do use more power than if it weren't running. I assume OP is wanting some sort of monitoring app that shows which apps are using CPU, in which case is fine. If OP is wanting to kill all apps that he isn't using at the time to conserve battery, then he would actually be doing the opposite of what he wants, as it requires to CPU to spin back up to restart it later. Again, the difference here is RAM vs CPU, one doesn't use battery (or rather, uses the same amount of battery, no matter how much of it is being utilized), and one can use more or less battery depending on how much it's used.
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It's kind of already been said, but I want to clarify as much as possible.
Apps running dormant in the background (using RAM) use no more power than if it weren't running. This is because all of the memory you have is being refreshed all the time, the controller has no idea whether there is actually data there, it still refreshes the entire space of memory.
Apps running "dormant" but using CPU do use more power than if it weren't running. I assume OP is wanting some sort of monitoring app that shows which apps are using CPU, in which case is fine. If OP is wanting to kill all apps that he isn't using at the time to conserve battery, then he would actually be doing the opposite of what he wants, as it requires to CPU to spin back up to restart it later. Again, the difference here is RAM vs CPU, one doesn't use battery (or rather, uses the same amount of battery, no matter how much of it is being utilized), and one can use more or less battery depending on how much it's used.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. I understand killing process, shutting down cached process or apps & later restarting them is only going to fire up the CPU usage which completely defeats the purpose of conserving battery.
Though not a daily ask, at times I am stuck in situation where a phone call or SMS is all I need to keep me going.
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This may be old ground, but hopefully not as I have tried a search on this forum, and there may be an obvious answer but I didn't want to fiddle around and wreck my phone lol
I have a third party app manager app installed on stock 4.2.1 ROM, not because there is anything wrong with the original task manager per se but because I find this one quicker and easier if an app hangs up or I want to close it manually for example; I totally get the whole thing about task killers etc, also the task manager app I installed also gives me a pretty handy overview of CPU clock etc I have rooted the phone and use No Frills CPU to throttle the clock speed back when I am not actually using the phone and hopefully stretch the battery life out a little.
So, in a nut shell; can I freeze the default Task Manager and just use the one I installed without there being any problems? I don't know enough about how android works and exactly what the default Task Manager does to decide if it absolutely has to be there for the phone to work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and just slap me with a wet fish if my questions are stupid
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Hi Peoples
This may be old ground, but hopefully not as I have tried a search on this forum, and there may be an obvious answer but I didn't want to fiddle around and wreck my phone lol
I have a third party app manager app installed on stock 4.2.1 ROM, not because there is anything wrong with the original task manager per se but because I find this one quicker and easier if an app hangs up or I want to close it manually for example; I totally get the whole thing about task killers etc, also the task manager app I installed also gives me a pretty handy overview of CPU clock etc I have rooted the phone and use No Frills CPU to throttle the clock speed back when I am not actually using the phone and hopefully stretch the battery life out a little.
So, in a nut shell; can I freeze the default Task Manager and just use the one I installed without there being any problems? I don't know enough about how android works and exactly what the default Task Manager does to decide if it absolutely has to be there for the phone to work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and just slap me with a wet fish if my questions are stupid
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I was a bit intrested in memory cleaners/task killers but as much as I know know now Android has built-in memory mechanisms/algorithms which are managing ram to get the best results. If you use any external app you're just slowing down your phone. There is ony one app which can help you a bit to get more hours in standby - greenify, it suspends selected apps on background so it won't use cpu or wifi. When you run them, they run as usual, just not at background after close (do not use it on messangers, you won't get messages after greenifying it).
Next thing - no frills cpu - yes, this can help a bit too, for example there are some battery saving governors or you can underclock cpu (I haven't had lags on 1300 Mhz)
Also I get more hours on battery from custom roms - KitKat came with big improvements here. You can always go back if you don't like it, just do a backup in recovery.
yes but....
I already use greenify and generally freeze apps that I am not using but don't necessarily want to uninstall
I agree totally about the way android works with memory hence my comment in the OP lol.
Anybody else have any advice that may answer my question about the stock Task Manager?