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I know there are numerous threads about how to, and what I am experiencing is not uncommon, but my question is pertaining to the start screen when first opening TiBu I get the "system settings will prevent you from restoring apps. To correct this go to settings>applications>tick unknown sources checkbox.
I am not running non-market apps. Can I make a backup and safely restore?
And how do I see some sideload from a PC not on device and restore via TiBu?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
rwj5279955 said:
I know there are numerous threads about how to, and what I am experiencing is not uncommon, but my question is pertaining to the start screen when first opening TiBu I get the "system settings will prevent you from restoring apps. To correct this go to settings>applications>tick unknown sources checkbox.
I am not running non-market apps. Can I make a backup and safely restore?
And how do I see some sideload from a PC not on device and restore via TiBu?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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The way it works is that anything installed from anywhere other then the market is considered as non market apps. It will back up but with out sideloading enabled you will not be able to restore them.
If side losing us not enabled on your captivate I do not believe you will be able to restore apps with titanium
Are you on stock rooted? What are you looking to do that you are looking to backup your apps?
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Stock, rooted.
I'm looking to flash Axura, trying to get my proverbial ducks in a row. I'm coming from Win-Mo, so yes a little Linux naive.
Thanks for the quick response. You guys are great.
If you're saying I need sideloading enabled on the phone, great.
rwj5279955 said:
Stock, rooted.
I'm looking to flash Axura, trying to get my proverbial ducks in a row. I'm coming from Win-Mo, so yes a little Linux naive.
Thanks for the quick response. You guys are great.
If you're saying I need sideloading enabled on the phone, great.
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If you flash Axura then sideloading and root will be enabled by default
rwj5279955 said:
Stock, rooted.
I'm looking to flash Axura, trying to get my proverbial ducks in a row. I'm coming from Win-Mo, so yes a little Linux naive.
Thanks for the quick response. You guys are great.
If you're saying I need sideloading enabled on the phone, great.
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Run the backup. Only apps with data, no system data. Go to my files. Check for a titanium folder. Open it, your back ups should be there. When you flash sideloading is enabled. You will be able to restore still your apps and their current state using titanium
I am on axura. Love it. If you have any other questions you can pm me or post on the axura thread..
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OK, for the sake of argument then, as long as TiBu is making a backup file to my SD card, once the new ROM is up and running it should back up no problems.
rwj5279955 said:
OK, for the sake of argument then, as long as TiBu is making a backup file to my SD card, once the new ROM is up and running it should back up no problems.
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Correct.
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rwj5279955 said:
OK, for the sake of argument then, as long as TiBu is making a backup file to my SD card, once the new ROM is up and running it should back up no problems.
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yes but make sure to copy the TiBu's backup folder to your pc or external SD card as Axura wipes data when loaded. Once it is loaded then move the file bcak and it will restore with no probs
I wish I could at least thanks your posts guys. You've been a big help. 5 thanks a day ha.
And yes I checked my files, a backup is there.
rwj5279955 said:
I wish I could at least thanks your posts guys. You've been a big help. 5 thanks a day ha.
And yes I checked my files, a backup is there.
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Good just make sure to back it up just incase. I keep my file on my external SD just incase.
Will do. Its good to hear good things about the ROM to be flashed also.
zelendel said:
yes but make sure to copy the TiBu's backup folder to your pc or external SD card as Axura wipes data when loaded. Once it is loaded then move the file bcak and it will restore with no probs
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Loading a rom doesn't delete the titanium backup directory unless you perform a master clear. Most roms don't delete data from the internal sd. Just so people don't freak out by reading that
Pirateghost said:
Loading a rom doesn't delete the titanium backup directory unless you perform a master clear. Most roms don't delete data from the internal sd. Just so people don't freak out by reading that
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Good point I forgot that the data wipe didnt remove it. So used to doing the needed (yes I know some say it is not needed but I will never flash a rom without doing it) master clear before flashing a new rom.
zelendel said:
Good point I forgot that the data wipe didnt remove it. So used to doing the needed (yes I know some say it is not needed but I will never flash a rom without doing it) master clear before flashing a new rom.
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I never master clear any more but I do make regular backups to my pc. Never know when a master clear might be needed.
On a somewhat related topic... Say one wants to restore backups to a stock build with TiBu? Is there a way to turn on sideloading without using the androidcentral loader?
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On a somewhat related topic... Say one wants to restore backups to a stock build with TiBu? Is there a way to turn on sideloading without using the androidcentral loader?
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Have a look HERE
Question! What if I use Titanium Backup in a earlier release of Axura (RC2.1) and backup everything+system data? Then once I go back to stock and reflash Axura 2.2, restore it? Does anyone foresee any issues?
So in essence it would look like so:
Axura 2.1 -> TiBu + system -> Restore Eclair 2.1 w/ ODIN -> Axura 2.2 -> restore TiBu backup + system
I ask this because I know going from eclair to froyo and restoring apps+system data is a bad idea, but from froyo to froyo it should work....right?
Thanks in advance!
Anyone?
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In theory it should not be an issue but from build to build some system apps change. My suggestion do not restore anything system
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I did a backup with Titanium Backup and then flashed to Cognition 3.04.
I had some memos saved that I would like to restore. Is it safe to restore the Memo 1.0 app from the backup, which I assume would also restore the data, or does Froyo incorporate a newer version of the Memo app? Alternately, is there any way to restore just the data?
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I did a backup with Titanium Backup and then flashed to Cognition 3.04.
I had some memos saved that I would like to restore. Is it safe to restore the Memo 1.0 app from the backup, which I assume would also restore the data, or does Froyo incorporate a newer version of the Memo app? Alternately, is there any way to restore just the data?
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It is safe to restore the app. Doing so would also restore the data. You can also just restore the data using titanium backup. Go to the backup/restore list in the app, find that app, click on it, and choose restore data only. However, the memo app is a system app, which titanium backup might have ignored. Check the app list to see if there is anything there for the memo app. Whatever you do, do NOT use the batch mode to restore the system data as a whole. You'll bork the rom to the point of having to reflash.
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Whatever you do, do NOT use the batch mode to restore the system data as a whole. You'll bork the rom to the point of having to reflash.
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Yes I found that out the hard way on my first flash when I used batch restore, so I redid it and was very careful to restore only the items I really needed this time, hence my question about the memos. When I clicked on that app in Titanium Backup I didn't see an option to restore the data only, just the whole Memos 1.0 app.
I do remember when I first did the batch restore all my original memos were restored, so Titanium Backup didn't ignore it, but the Memo app itself was locking up intermittently after that. But then so were other things on the phone so I don't know if that was due to restoring the Memo app itself, or just a side effect of having restored other incompatible system files causing general overall issues.
I'm loving Cognition but would rather not have to reflash it again for a stupid restore error, as the process is a bit of a hassle. Do we know for sure if the Memos app in Froyo/Cognition is still Memos v1.0?
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Yes I found that out the hard way on my first flash when I used batch restore, so I redid it and was very careful to restore only the items I really needed this time, hence my question about the memos. When I clicked on that app in Titanium Backup I didn't see an option to restore the data only, just the whole Memos 1.0 app.
I do remember when I first did the batch restore all my original memos were restored, so Titanium Backup didn't ignore it, but the Memo app itself was locking up intermittently after that. But then so were other things on the phone so I don't know if that was due to restoring the Memo app itself, or just a side effect of having restored other incompatible system files causing general overall issues.
I'm loving Cognition but would rather not have to reflash it again for a stupid restore error, as the process is a bit of a hassle. Do we know for sure if the Memos app in Froyo/Cognition is still Memos v1.0?
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I THINK you'll be fine (GRAIN OF SALT!). When you click on the Memos v1.0 to restore, it will prompt you and say something like restoring only data, which is what you want. If it sayS something else, then don't go through with it.
When I went to restore it this time I got the option to restore data after all, and it worked fine. And it looks like the Memo app is still at v1.0 in Cognition.
Thanks for the replies.
Hey guys whats the best way or is there a way to restore all your contacts and text messages after rom flash. After every flash I have to redo all my contacts with photos and lose all texts, I use titanium back up for the apps but they say not to restore system data with tibu. thanks
The green system settings should be ok to restore, [sms/mms/apn] dialer storage will have your texts,.and contact storage will have your contacts.
Just restore those individually. Works for me.
i keep all my contacts in google so i never have to restore those, and for sms/mms/call log backup and restores i use
sms backup +
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync&feature=search_result
I use My Backup Root. When you back up Data (not apk data), you are given a choice of what you want to back up. When you restore data, you are also given a choice of what to restore.
When you restore APK+ Data, you are restoring data from the apks, not system data (with My Backup, TiBu may be different).
The only downside to my backup is most roms don't preload it like tibu. You gave to download from market after every flash.
If this has been any help, please don't forget to hit Thank You.
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mrhaley30705 said:
I use My Backup Root. When you back up Data (not apk data), you are given a choice of what you want to back up. When you restore data, you are also given a choice of what to restore.
When you restore APK+ Data, you are restoring data from the apks, not system data (with My Backup, TiBu may be different).
The only downside to my backup is most roms don't preload it like tibu. You gave to download from market after every flash.
If this has been any help, please don't forget to hit Thank You.
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if you copy the apk somewhere and put it in /data/app in the rom zip before you flash you won't have to download it from the market. Fyi
Interesting, anyways i just used Ti-Backup to reload my text messages
I backed up:
[SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage 2.2.1
And have none of my text messages on the new ROM. Granted it's nice to clear out, I had some things I wanted to keep
Should I have backed up:
[SMS/MMS PREFS] Messaging 2.2.1
Instead for future reference and purposes?
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Interesting, anyways i just used Ti-Backup to reload my text messages
I backed up:
[SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage 2.2.1
And have none of my text messages on the new ROM. Granted it's nice to clear out, I had some things I wanted to keep
Should I have backed up:
[SMS/MMS PREFS] Messaging 2.2.1
Instead for future reference and purposes?
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Have you rebooted since restoring that data? If not, do it.
Android Manager for me. No Google cloud needed. Also, you can export your contacts to a .vcf file before you flash and restore from it after. Do this within the Contacts app.
Yeah... the rebooting thing. My ignorance, and my apologies. All texts are back now
studacris said:
if you copy the apk somewhere and put it in /data/app in the rom zip before you flash you won't have to download it from the market. Fyi
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Thanks. I will have to remember that for my.next flash. Right now, o am quite content with Continuum.
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What things CAN i backup with TiBU, and i have been playing with sgs tools, how does the homescreen back up work
That's what I did. Long press .vcf and save to phone. Quick n easy.
Miami_Son said:
Android Manager for me. No Google cloud needed. Also, you can export your contacts to a .vcf file before you flash and restore from it after. Do this within the Contacts app.
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kedster said:
What things CAN i backup with TiBU, and i have been playing with sgs tools, how does the homescreen back up work
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It backs up your home screen, minus widgets. But I think it only works on touchwiz launchers.
And you can back up almost everything, contacts sms, apps, etc.for a detailed list, look on the market page.
If I'm wrong, those with more knowledge please clarify.
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Hello,
I've been running Perception 10.1 for quite a while now. There's really nothing wrong with it, I guess I'm just bored. I'm thinking about putting CM7 on my phone.
Everytime I've changed ROMs in the past I've tried to do a NAND backup with Rom Manager and everytime I install the new ROM on there and then I do a NAND restore, none of the apps come over with it and I usually have problems and crashes. So, to me, CWM is basically worthless. I have made tons of backups and not one single one of them restored without errors and crashes. Worst program ever.
So, now I have bought the Pro version of Titanium Backup. I'd like to do a full backup so that way when I finish the flashing process to get my new ROM on there, I can just use that to restore all my apps and settings. I'd hate to have to go and download all my apps all over again, I have over 100 on there now.
What type of backup should I do with Titanium Backup so that migrating to a new ROM and restoring is as seamless as possible?
Thanks!
derek4484 said:
Hello,
I've been running Perception 10.1 for quite a while now. There's really nothing wrong with it, I guess I'm just bored. I'm thinking about putting CM7 on my phone.
Everytime I've changed ROMs in the past I've tried to do a NAND backup with Rom Manager and everytime I install the new ROM on there and then I do a NAND restore, none of the apps come over with it and I usually have problems and crashes. So, to me, CWM is basically worthless. I have made tons of backups and not one single one of them restored without errors and crashes. Worst program ever.
So, now I have bought the Pro version of Titanium Backup. I'd like to do a full backup so that way when I finish the flashing process to get my new ROM on there, I can just use that to restore all my apps and settings. I'd hate to have to go and download all my apps all over again, I have over 100 on there now.
What type of backup should I do with Titanium Backup so that migrating to a new ROM and restoring is as seamless as possible?
Thanks!
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Go on Backup & restore, open the menu and select batch.
Run: Backup all user apps + system data.
Once you restore although, don't restore system data as it will mess up with your new ROM.
BWolf56 said:
Go on Backup & restore, open the menu and select batch.
Run: Backup all user apps + system data.
Once you restore although, don't restore system data as it will mess up with your new ROM.
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Ok, thanks. Let me ask you a question then... You say to run the batch backup all user apps + system data, but only run the restore user apps. Why? Is there a difference between doing it your way, and just running the batch backup user apps, then doing the batch restore user apps? What is the purpose of backing up system data, if its not going to be restored? Just curious why to backup the system data if not restoring it. I think I have read somewhere else to not restore the system data on the new ROM cause it'll cheese it up.
Titanium Backup seems like a powerful program, although I havent been able to find any user manual or really anywhere that details what all the options do.
if going between different roms dont do all system data only the green ones and user apps. not all system data is compatible between different frameworks and options
create a label for "my sys data" and assign the green ones to it.
make sure to have tibu backup its settings as well in the settings menu.
derek4484 said:
Ok, thanks. Let me ask you a question then... You say to run the batch backup all user apps + system data, but only run the restore user apps. Why? Is there a difference between doing it your way, and just running the batch backup user apps, then doing the batch restore user apps? What is the purpose of backing up system data, if its not going to be restored? Just curious why to backup the system data if not restoring it. I think I have read somewhere else to not restore the system data on the new ROM cause it'll cheese it up.
Titanium Backup seems like a powerful program, although I havent been able to find any user manual or really anywhere that details what all the options do.
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Simply cause you want a full backup if u ever wanna go back to a certain ROM. Also, doing a full backup is safer, the program won't miss anything and when you restore your apps, you can restore your apps's data (which I personnaly love).
You don't have to backup your system data, I simply suggest it as you never know if you'll change your mind
I think backing up system data is just a precaution in case something goes wrong.
Trusselo said:
if going between different roms dont do all system data only the green ones and user apps.
create a label for "my sys data" and assign the green ones to it.
make sure to have tibu backup its settings as well in the settings menu.
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Trusselo, you're being too helpful lol - everywhere I try to help some1, you're right there doing so too
Love to see ppl with experience still helping the newbie with patience
Just back up user apps and data (also dialer storage for texts).
I never make full backups of my rom. Just Tibu backups for apps.
qwertyaas said:
Just back up user apps and data (also dialer storage for texts).
I never make full backups of my rom. Just Tibu backups for apps.
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@ OP - I believe it's up to you. Full backup is safer if something goes wrong but not necessary as mentionned by others. I do it cause I can
The only thing to remember, if that's what you decide to do, is to not restore system data if you flash a different ROM.
Ok, I got it. Thanks to you all.
For future reference, a NAND backup in CWM is not worthless, you are just using it wrong.
It is not meant to restore apps/data it is a complete image of your phone as it was when you took the backup. it is designed so that you can jump between roms easily by just restoring nandroids of your setups. it is not and dont think it was ever designed to 'restore apps' but restore the entire system. your problems before with it were likely because you were trying to go between 2.1 and 2.2 roms? a nandroid does not backup the kernel or modem so it makes it a little difficult to bounce between 2.1/2.2 etc there are ways, but its just easier to start fresh and restore a Titanium backup batch job
regarding Tibu and nandroid.
Full system / everything backup is good for backing up your system AS IS if you are going to mess around with what you have or try a rom for a few hours but want to go back to exactly how it was.
thats why the green ones are green in tibu its the bare minimum that will work across all roms.
@Bwolf56 - ya im on here alot. just finishing coming off comp for nearly taking my thumb right off.
i try to help. but get into crap often... still try to help regardless!
Something I've learned from flashing you can NEVER have too many backups.
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This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?
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This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?
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Rule #1 as you will see as you get more into this you NEVER restore "system" apps this will create FC - force closures and errors all day long. Only restore user apps and data.
If coming from a Samsung going to a Nexus for example, you would TiBu all your users apps/data on Samsung to restore to Nexus. You do not have to restore the Google backup you can...but more senior people like me setup device as a new device. Google restore does not bring over your user data and settings like TiBu will. TiBu will give you exactly what the app was like on the old device....google will not in majority of cases...for me none.
- TiBu user app/data and no system data
- Setup new device as new and restore TiBu app/data. Can do the Google it you like and then let TiBu overwrite it
You can install the Pico gapps. Let's say you had a new rom without Google Newstand...even if it was not in the gapps your TiBu would restore it just fine with no issues.... But the gapps does add other background google services you need not visible to eye like apps...but the apps can fully come from your backup even if they dont exist on the new device.
No you will not get your call log, etc since you do not restore system info. But there are third party apps that can back that up if that is that important. I use apps like Textra and not device messaging apps so when TiBu restores Textra I get it all back old messages\etc....again you do not want to restore 'red' system apps but find 3rd party apps that backup call log, text (if google app), etc.
What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues
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What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues
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Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.
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Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.
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Thanks for the info. I'll just stick with the user apps and back them into a folder. You also recommended textra for texts? So it will just back up like a normal user app and you can keep all your text messages that way?