[Q] Titanium Backup Woes - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know there are numerous threads about how to, and what I am experiencing is not uncommon, but my question is pertaining to the start screen when first opening TiBu I get the "system settings will prevent you from restoring apps. To correct this go to settings>applications>tick unknown sources checkbox.
I am not running non-market apps. Can I make a backup and safely restore?
And how do I see some sideload from a PC not on device and restore via TiBu?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

rwj5279955 said:
I know there are numerous threads about how to, and what I am experiencing is not uncommon, but my question is pertaining to the start screen when first opening TiBu I get the "system settings will prevent you from restoring apps. To correct this go to settings>applications>tick unknown sources checkbox.
I am not running non-market apps. Can I make a backup and safely restore?
And how do I see some sideload from a PC not on device and restore via TiBu?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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The way it works is that anything installed from anywhere other then the market is considered as non market apps. It will back up but with out sideloading enabled you will not be able to restore them.

If side losing us not enabled on your captivate I do not believe you will be able to restore apps with titanium
Are you on stock rooted? What are you looking to do that you are looking to backup your apps?
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Stock, rooted.
I'm looking to flash Axura, trying to get my proverbial ducks in a row. I'm coming from Win-Mo, so yes a little Linux naive.
Thanks for the quick response. You guys are great.
If you're saying I need sideloading enabled on the phone, great.

rwj5279955 said:
Stock, rooted.
I'm looking to flash Axura, trying to get my proverbial ducks in a row. I'm coming from Win-Mo, so yes a little Linux naive.
Thanks for the quick response. You guys are great.
If you're saying I need sideloading enabled on the phone, great.
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If you flash Axura then sideloading and root will be enabled by default

rwj5279955 said:
Stock, rooted.
I'm looking to flash Axura, trying to get my proverbial ducks in a row. I'm coming from Win-Mo, so yes a little Linux naive.
Thanks for the quick response. You guys are great.
If you're saying I need sideloading enabled on the phone, great.
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Run the backup. Only apps with data, no system data. Go to my files. Check for a titanium folder. Open it, your back ups should be there. When you flash sideloading is enabled. You will be able to restore still your apps and their current state using titanium
I am on axura. Love it. If you have any other questions you can pm me or post on the axura thread..
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OK, for the sake of argument then, as long as TiBu is making a backup file to my SD card, once the new ROM is up and running it should back up no problems.

rwj5279955 said:
OK, for the sake of argument then, as long as TiBu is making a backup file to my SD card, once the new ROM is up and running it should back up no problems.
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Correct.
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rwj5279955 said:
OK, for the sake of argument then, as long as TiBu is making a backup file to my SD card, once the new ROM is up and running it should back up no problems.
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yes but make sure to copy the TiBu's backup folder to your pc or external SD card as Axura wipes data when loaded. Once it is loaded then move the file bcak and it will restore with no probs

I wish I could at least thanks your posts guys. You've been a big help. 5 thanks a day ha.
And yes I checked my files, a backup is there.

rwj5279955 said:
I wish I could at least thanks your posts guys. You've been a big help. 5 thanks a day ha.
And yes I checked my files, a backup is there.
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Good just make sure to back it up just incase. I keep my file on my external SD just incase.

Will do. Its good to hear good things about the ROM to be flashed also.

zelendel said:
yes but make sure to copy the TiBu's backup folder to your pc or external SD card as Axura wipes data when loaded. Once it is loaded then move the file bcak and it will restore with no probs
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Loading a rom doesn't delete the titanium backup directory unless you perform a master clear. Most roms don't delete data from the internal sd. Just so people don't freak out by reading that

Pirateghost said:
Loading a rom doesn't delete the titanium backup directory unless you perform a master clear. Most roms don't delete data from the internal sd. Just so people don't freak out by reading that
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Good point I forgot that the data wipe didnt remove it. So used to doing the needed (yes I know some say it is not needed but I will never flash a rom without doing it) master clear before flashing a new rom.

zelendel said:
Good point I forgot that the data wipe didnt remove it. So used to doing the needed (yes I know some say it is not needed but I will never flash a rom without doing it) master clear before flashing a new rom.
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I never master clear any more but I do make regular backups to my pc. Never know when a master clear might be needed.

On a somewhat related topic... Say one wants to restore backups to a stock build with TiBu? Is there a way to turn on sideloading without using the androidcentral loader?

Demonic240 said:
On a somewhat related topic... Say one wants to restore backups to a stock build with TiBu? Is there a way to turn on sideloading without using the androidcentral loader?
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Have a look HERE

Question! What if I use Titanium Backup in a earlier release of Axura (RC2.1) and backup everything+system data? Then once I go back to stock and reflash Axura 2.2, restore it? Does anyone foresee any issues?
So in essence it would look like so:
Axura 2.1 -> TiBu + system -> Restore Eclair 2.1 w/ ODIN -> Axura 2.2 -> restore TiBu backup + system
I ask this because I know going from eclair to froyo and restoring apps+system data is a bad idea, but from froyo to froyo it should work....right?
Thanks in advance!

Anyone?
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In theory it should not be an issue but from build to build some system apps change. My suggestion do not restore anything system
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Titanium Backup Important Info

Several general things to make your titanium backup and restore experience actually work properly.....
Be sure to be in debugging mode.
When first opening titanium, hit the menu button and go to preferences. Scroll all the way down to "app processing mode" and switch to "Auto, indirect"
NEVER restore system data (red and green text in titanium). Only apps. I know its a pain, but its easier to re-setup accounts and all that than restore and take the chance of the problems that usually arise from restoring system stuff.
I hope this helps people....
Restoring the data from apps that have the Titanium Backup icon will restore your wifi settings and your accounts along with various other settings.
To restore your contacts load the data from Contacts Storage 2.2 and not the contacts application itself.
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How do we get TB to save to the external card? When I load a new ROM I have to use App Brain to redownload everything because I cannot find the TB files on the Ext SD card
tbong777 said:
How do we get TB to save to the external card? When I load a new ROM I have to use App Brain to redownload everything because I cannot find the TB files on the Ext SD card
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Just copy the Titanium Backup folder to your external SD, then copy it back over after you flash.
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tbong777 said:
How do we get TB to save to the external card? When I load a new ROM I have to use App Brain to redownload everything because I cannot find the TB files on the Ext SD card
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I wasn't sure about this myself so what I did was just copy the TB folder to my computer and then copy it back to SD when I needed it. Maybe not the preferred method but it works.
techmik67 said:
Several general things to make your titanium backup and restore experience actually work properly.....
When first opening titanium, hit the menu button and go to preferences. Scroll all the way down to "app processing mode" and switch to "Auto, indirect"
I hope this helps people....
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Why?
The app itself recommends AUTO, Direct, and says that AUTO, Indirect is (If you have problems).
tbong777 said:
How do we get TB to save to the external card? When I load a new ROM I have to use App Brain to redownload everything because I cannot find the TB files on the Ext SD card
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Under preferences change the backup folder to /SD/backup (for 2.1) /SD_external/backup (for leaked froyo). Make sure to look in that folder when restoring backups after a new flash.
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External_SD for froyo..... sorry
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RebDovid said:
Why?
The app itself recommends AUTO, Direct, and says that AUTO, Indirect is (If you have problems).
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Cause it works.
techmik67 said:
Cause it works.
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It works with AUTO Direct as well? So can you provide more information? Don't put out false information. Some people take a lot of what is posted as completely accurate.
david717 said:
It works with AUTO Direct as well? So can you provide more information? Don't put out false information. Some people take a lot of what is posted as completely accurate.
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False information? GTFO. Many people posted that batch restore "freezes" for them. Mine used to also, every time. Then I went to a titanium forum, found out to switch to indirect, and have NEVER had a problem since.
You don't wanna use it, don't. But don't accuse me of putting out wrong info .....
techmik67 said:
False information? GTFO. Many people posted that batch restore "freezes" for them. Mine used to also, every time. Then I went to a titanium forum, found out to switch to indirect, and have NEVER had a problem since.
You don't wanna use it, don't. But don't accuse me of putting out wrong info .....
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I didn't accuse you. "Cause it works" isn't an ideal explanation. So what you're saying is. "hit the menu button and go to preferences. Scroll all the way down to "app processing mode" and switch to "Auto, indirect" ...if you are experiencing freeze issues." He asked a simple question, why post a useless/snarky reply to him?
techmik67 said:
False information? GTFO. Many people posted that batch restore "freezes" for them. Mine used to also, every time. Then I went to a titanium forum, found out to switch to indirect, and have NEVER had a problem since.
You don't wanna use it, don't. But don't accuse me of putting out wrong info .....
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Looking back thru this thread, i see that i may not have explained WHY i posted this, so i will. As i said in the quote above, I searched a while to get ANY tibu support. That tip was THE MOST RECOMMENDED for problems, and it worked for me, so I thought I'd try to help others by posting. I apologize for not explaining further.
As far as being a little short in the last replies, i did not like being accused of posting false info.....
I do apologize for saying it was false. Just bad wording on my part, and could have been said more... politely.
Also, being pretty new to Android. It actually took quite some time to find out some the TiBu information you posted.
Thanks for the tip!
david717 said:
I do apologize for saying it was false. Just bad wording on my part, and could have been said more... politely.
Also, being pretty new to Android. It actually took quite some time to find out some the TiBu information you posted.
Thanks for the tip!
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I was pulling my hair out for a whole day searching for good support for titanium, and FINALLY found that 1 tip, and found it worked EVERY time for me on batch restore. So i just wanted to help others by posting it, and felt offended by the wording.
Let's say "no harm, no foul" =)
And I'm glad if the tip benefits you!!! =))
Twoam said:
To restore your contacts load the data from Contacts Storage 2.2 and not the contacts application itself.
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Where is this? Is it part of Froyo? Because I'm on 2.1 and I can't find it in the marketplace.
sremick said:
Where is this? Is it part of Froyo? Because I'm on 2.1 and I can't find it in the marketplace.
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It's something you'll see in the list of system items you can back up in Titanium Backup. Basically, scroll down the list of things you can back up, and anytime you see the Titanium Backup logo next to a system-type item (it'll usually be green) that's some system settings thing you can backup to later restore. It won't be an app, just some settings. I don't know if the Contacts 2.2 will show up for a 2.1 OS. Can't test that myself at this point.
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NEVER restore system data (red and green text in titanium). Only apps. I know its a pain, but its easier to re-setup accounts and all that than restore and take the chance of the problems that usually arise from restoring system stuff.
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Hey, thanks for the post, but question since you brought it up here and I was going to start another thread but you seem pretty knowledgeable about this...
When you install a new ROM or backup and restoring apps, is using TB really "clean"? I am so used to Windows crapola, that someone told me it is "cleaner" to just reinstall all your apps instead of risking some "crap" getting transferred over through TB's process.
I understand to not backup and restore system stuff now, but what if u do apps only, which is really the better, cleaner way to install in a new ROM?
Thanks.
Dathaeus said:
Hey, thanks for the post, but question since you brought it up here and I was going to start another thread but you seem pretty knowledgeable about this...
When you install a new ROM or backup and restoring apps, is using TB really "clean"? I am so used to Windows crapola, that someone told me it is "cleaner" to just reinstall all your apps instead of risking some "crap" getting transferred over through TB's process.
I understand to not backup and restore system stuff now, but what if u do apps only, which is really the better, cleaner way to install in a new ROM?
Thanks.
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i guess if you want the "cleanest" possible way, you should just reinstall the apps, but honestly i've never had a problem restoring with tibu (well that's not entirely true, but that was due more to user error )
if you do have a problem with a restored app you can always uninstall and reinstall from the market.
but everybody has their own voodoo rituals, so just find what works for you and makes you happy.:highfive:
jde984 said:
i guess if you want the "cleanest" possible way, you should just reinstall the apps, but honestly i've never had a problem restoring with tibu (well that's not entirely true, but that was due more to user error )
if you do have a problem with a restored app you can always uninstall and reinstall from the market.
but everybody has their own voodoo rituals, so just find what works for you and makes you happy.:highfive:
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Thanks.. I just reinstalled all the apps from free TB that didnt require any saved stuff to restore without data, and then the ones that did (like K9 mail) I restored with data and for now it seems all fine except for a glitch in my stock txt messager, go figure...

Titanium Backup from JH7 to Cog 9.1.3

I'm considering flashing to cognition 9.1.3. I have already backed up my android id. But my question is:
Can I backup some of my apps with titanium and then restore them on cognition?
Thanks
I'm certainly no expert but i'm pretty sure thats how it works.
michael.seltzer said:
I'm considering flashing to cognition 9.1.3. I have already backed up my android id. But my question is:
Can I backup some of my apps with titanium and then restore them on cognition?
Thanks
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You can, but there are some you should not. Specifically, don't restore any that end with 2.1 update1 in the name. As you browse down through the list of files to restore, you may find 6-8. Specifically, some are Google apps.
Also, do not restore system settings.
I have had best luck if I unselect all red apps (typically system type apps); and the ones I mentioned above.
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Also, do not restore system settings.
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The gist would be restore missing apps only, don't do apps and system data to avoid problems.
Restoring all apps and system data can resort in continuous force.close messages and near inoperability. BE CAREFUL!!! best to just restore apps.
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Nandroid/titanium clarification please.

I'm new to rooting. Just got my moto droid (1) rooted yesterday using superoneclick. Worked Flawlessly. I've installed barnacle wifi teather utilizing my newely establish root 'superuser'.
I've been reading up on custom roms, removing bloatware, ect and am anxious to give it all a go HOWEVER first things first, I need to make a copy/backup of my stock phone's rom right?
I need to be rooted to make a backup right?
Now I've heard about nandroid and titanium back. From what I've gathered titanium backs up all ur apps and there settings to reintall after flashing a new rom,...right? (Since flashin wipes internal memory)
I think, Nandroid is needed for installing new/custom roms and/or reverting back to my stock rom.....nandroid is a program correct?
Am I following this correctly?
Id really appreciate your time to answer my elemenatry questions.
Thanks!
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Basically, nandroid is a disc image.
You can restore your entire OS quite quickly.
Titanium is simply a very good program for backing up your apps along with data so all your settings are saved.
Restoring with titanium can take a long time though since each app gets installed one by one - and that's when it is working properly. For me, it just keeps closing itself after restoring a singe app.
I haven't seen it recommended but I HIGHLY recommend SuperManager for for backing up and restoring. It doesn't ask any questions. It just puts all your stuff back and it doesn't crash.
So I use SM for restoring the whole shot, and Titanium when I'm being more selective.
if you use nandroid to backup then after you have flashed your new ROM then you can put the nandroid files in the sd/openrecovery/nandroid/ folder, boot into open recovery and pick the nandroid files to install.
I got super manager and backed up my apps to sd card.
Next I got rom manager...now my problem is I cannot get rom manager to back up my stock rom. Flashed the clockworkmod via rom manager and tried booting into recovery,..I only get stock recovery.
Went back into rom manager and flashed the alternative recovery SPRecovery, still no luck booting into an aftermarket recovery.
What the heck am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't gotten ROM Manager to work consistently, but I find that after a few attempts at booting into Clockwork Recovery, it'll eventually go through. Maybe someone can point out a way to make the process take less time.
Got up this morning and thought id try again.
Flashed the clockwork recovery then instantly hit reboot in recovery and voila!! It worked! Weird tho. Made my first nandroid.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what rom to give a try for a motorola droid (1)?
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kmcgill88 said:
Got up this morning and thought id try again.
Flashed the clockwork recovery then instantly hit reboot in recovery and voila!! It worked! Weird tho. Made my first nandroid.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what rom to give a try for a motorola droid (1)?
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If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
vladstercr said:
If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
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I've heard the CM name around a lot. When I go into rom manager I see the CM 6 but I'm still lil nervous to give it a shot. This is my only phone. Soo,....maybe a few more tutorials to review the process once more..just cuz
Now when I flash, say, CM6 I don't need to worry about root or superuser permission anymore do I?
Also what apps, if any, will be pre installed with CM6? (I have backed up my apps with super manager)
I really appreciate everyones help! THANK YOU!
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Since you did a nandroid, you have very little to worry about.
But, just to be super safe, you can copy the nandroid to your computer.
If anything goes wrong, you have an instant restore handy.
About Super Manager - I forgot to mention that to save all your user data along with your apps and to also have a quick restore process, back up using the smbk option.
When you flash CM6, you will stay rooted and be overclocked to 900 mhz.
There is no bloat installed with CM6 but all the essentials are there.
I don't know anything about ROM Manager stuff because I can't use it on my Milestone.
vladstercr said:
If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
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is this the shadwmod you're referring to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939555
will this work for the droid 1 (as long as i flash the proper baseband)? i've tried a fair # of gb builds but not this one and wanna give it a shot. thanks
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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skribzy said:
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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nandroid is only useful for a FULL restore of your entire phone's state. it backs up everything in IMG format, and then re-flashes it *in whole* in the event of a restore. so, short answer, no... you can't restore bits and pieces from a nandroid backup.
HOWEVER, Titanium Backup is my app of choice for backing up applications and app data (because no one should have to start over at angry birds!). The donate/Pro app is TOTALLY worth the few bucks, and it's very easy to use.
To use Titanium Backup: download from market (i really suggest the Pro version), click "Batch" then "backup user apps". When you start fresh with a new ROM, cancel all your active downloads, re-download Titanium Backup from the market and select batch>restore missing apps + app data. This way you restore the data associated with your apps, but not a previous ROMs system data. If you are unable to cancel your downloads, there is also a batch method to uninstall all backed up apps, that way you can make sure that you install your backup and not a "fresh" copy from the market.
A quick note about angry birds using Titanium Backup on GB -- with most GB ROMs, Angry Birds will install by default to the sdcard. They, however, will not run on the sdcard. As soon as you've done a restore using Titanium, just go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, and click Angry Birds and select "Move to Phone". Then you should be good
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nandroid is only useful for a FULL restore of your entire phone's state. it backs up everything in IMG format, and then re-flashes it *in whole* in the event of a restore. so, short answer, no... you can't restore bits and pieces from a nandroid backup.
HOWEVER, Titanium Backup is my app of choice for backing up applications and app data (because no one should have to start over at angry birds!). The donate/Pro app is TOTALLY worth the few bucks, and it's very easy to use.
To use Titanium Backup: download from market (i really suggest the Pro version), click "Batch" then "backup user apps". When you start fresh with a new ROM, cancel all your active downloads, re-download Titanium Backup from the market and select batch>restore missing apps + app data. This way you restore the data associated with your apps, but not a previous ROMs system data. If you are unable to cancel your downloads, there is also a batch method to uninstall all backed up apps, that way you can make sure that you install your backup and not a "fresh" copy from the market.
A quick note about angry birds using Titanium Backup on GB -- with most GB ROMs, Angry Birds will install by default to the sdcard. They, however, will not run on the sdcard. As soon as you've done a restore using Titanium, just go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, and click Angry Birds and select "Move to Phone". Then you should be good
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thanks very much for such useful advice!
skribzy said:
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
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I have found that TitaniumPro doesn't always restore setting properly. Sometimes you have to go into the individual app and do a manual restore. I am not sure why this is, but just FYI.
mfratto said:
I have found that TitaniumPro doesn't always restore setting properly. Sometimes you have to go into the individual app and do a manual restore. I am not sure why this is, but just FYI.
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titanium CAN restore system settings / apps, but it's a little bit of a different process to make sure that you don't restore a previous ROM's data, which can cause some pretty serious instabilities if done improperly.
here are some How-Tos for using Titanium Backup: http://www.moddedlogic.com/pe/howto.php
these methods are a little more advanced, and if done improperly can cause instability. these methods can be used in conjunction with restoring "missing apps + app data" like i mentioned above.
skribzy said:
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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Its neither. Its both. You can't pluck ur call log txt ect data from a nandroid to my knowledge.
I'm new to this but I have the understanding a nandroid is a snapshot of EXACTLY everything you have on your phone, including txt, call log,ect. So as I'm sure you've read its always suggested to creat a nandroid of your original rom before installing a custom rom. Then u can go back in time if need be.
As for restoring your data after installing a new rom you need to backup your apps, I used super manager via smbk file, once you install the new rom go to market (or its pry saved in sd still) reinstall super manager and use the restore button to reinstall all your apps in one fell swoop.
Contacts, calendar, and email r on the google cloud so that will auto resync once u sign into your phone. I still lost my txt, call log, ect but I didn't care about that.
Now that u have your apps back and get a few settings confgured i decided to make a nandroid of my newly installed Rom just in case I F something up and can't figure out how to g back. With the new nandroid created I can revert back to my stock rom or modded rom annd all apps & data will be exactly how I left it.
Hope that helps.
Anyone plz feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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kmcgill88 said:
Its neither. Its both. You can't pluck ur call log txt ect data from a nandroid to my knowledge.
I'm new to this but I have the understanding a nandroid is a snapshot of EXACTLY everything you have on your phone, including txt, call log,ect. So as I'm sure you've read its always suggested to creat a nandroid of your original rom before installing a custom rom. Then u can go back in time if need be.
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It's *possible* but not easy. Nandroid is a **disk image** (.img file) backup, not a file-by-file backup/file dump. While it's *possible* to dissect it and flash bits and pieces, it would be quite advanced since it would have to be flashed using adb or a terminal emulator ...and even then i'm not sure it would actually work without running the full binary scripts from the recovery restore processes. And even if you did get the binaries to run and flash the .img files to the right places, you would run the possibility that the old data would be incompatible with your current ROM / system.
You can unpack the img file in linux if you know how and push pieces of it using adb shell, but that's still sort of going out of your way for something relatively simple. To unpack an .img file in linux:
# Make a directory where you want the file mounted:
sudo mkdir /image
# Then mount the image on the directory:
sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.img /image
# Then you could open the directory with nautilus:
nautilus /image
# When you're done, unmount the img:
sudo unmount /image
Nandroid is a backup of a STATE of your phone, not pieces. To backup apps and data, just use a program, there are a bunch out there. You can also do as I do and pull /system and /data from your phone and backup to your computer. You will need the android sdk though. Just connect via USB and make sure USB Debugging is enabled (settings>applications>development) and run in terminal:
cd [android sdk directory/platform-tools/]
adb devices
(make sure your device shows up)
adb pull /system [local directory]
adb pull /data [local directory]
voila. you now have copies of your /data and /system folders on your computer. you can even do your whole internal storage if you want and can create the proper permissions. however, as a caveat, these will not restore a broken system to stable state like a nandroid will, it's pretty much just for restoring individual apps if you lose them or delete something.
bottom line: nandroid is great for what it's intended for. outside of that, there are reasons why there are backup tools / apps for backing up pieces of your ROM. use them each for what they're intended and you'll be good. nandroid backup/restore is like 3 clicks. same for app restore programs. use the appropriate tools for the appropriate jobs and you'll be juuuuust fine.
EDIT: it's also possible to do an advanced nandroid restore of a certain partition, but it's *highly* advisable not to in almost all circumstances. it will most likely screw up more stuff than it fixes. it's really only helpful if the backup and your current ROM are the exact same.
for instance, if I have a nandroid backup of CM6, and i screw something up in my /data folder, and i'm still running the same version of CM6, then i could advanced nandroid my /data partition back in recovery. outside of that, it's pretty much useless and would do more harm than good.
Hi
I'm sorry to jump in in the discussion like this but reading this discussion confused me a little regarding a possible usage of a nandroid backup.
Given the fact that this type of backup is a full image of the system, can I transfer this backup on another motorola droid and restore it also on there? Or each nandroid is associated to a specific phone (even if the model is the same)?
Thank you so much!
No a nandroid wouldn't necessarily be phone specific.
But it would be OS specific.
There would likely be problems if you restored a CM6 rom (froyo) on a phone that still has eclair on it.
zeppelinrox said:
No a nandroid wouldn't necessarily be phone specific.
But it would be OS specific.
There would likely be problems if you restored a CM6 rom (froyo) on a phone that still has eclair on it.
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it's not necessarily "phone" specific, but it is *device* specific. you wouldn't be able to use a Droid nandroid on a Droid X, for instance. The md5 sum check would fail.
so yes, you would be able to restore a nandroid restore on a backup that you manually moved onto another phone, as long as the device was the same (moto droid to moto droid).

[APP] Tired of having to backup all your apps AND make a Nandroid?

Ever since I got AppExtractor, Titanium backup has been old news.
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AppExtractor allows you to extract apps straight from a CWM Backup (Nandroid). It even lets you restore SMS/MMS, Contacts, and Settings from a CWM Backup.
So instead of making a CWM backup AND backing up with TTB, you just make one CWM backup and you're set.
"I use Titanium Backup to freeze my bloat/system apps :trollface:"
Yep, Appextractor does that too!
If you're getting Force Closes after restoring apps, press the Fix Permissions button within AppExtractor and there's a good chance of that fixing the problem.
There's just one catch.
The backup you pull from HAS to be done through ROM Manager.
If you use ROM manager anyway, you have nothing to worry about.
If you make the backup through ROM Manager but it still doesn't show up, you need to update CWR. Scroll to the top of ROM Manager, its the first option, just press it.
Already hit the thanks button. I will try it out. I am a big user of titanium back up. It works really good if you know how yo use it but I am always up for trying something new.
This sounds great. Just downloaded and will check it out
Forgive this semi-off topic hijack. I am currently running Liberty ROM and want to check out the new shift3r 2.1 rom (but any rom is applicable) without losing all my settings and apps. Will this app do the trick? Is there another avenue?
Thanks
indigomontoya said:
Forgive this semi-off topic hijack. I am currently running Liberty ROM and want to check out the new shift3r 2.1 rom (but any rom is applicable) without losing all my settings and apps. Will this app do the trick? Is there another avenue?
Thanks
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Make a backup through ROM manager before leaving liberty, reboot and go back to ROM manager and make sure the backup you just made is in the list under Manage Backups.
Follow the instructions to install shift3r (this should include a full wipe).
Once you're on shift3r, install ROM Manager and AppExtractor. Open up AppExtractor and Restore all USER APPS+DATA DO NOT RESTORE SYSTEM APPS/DATA (this will ruin the newly installed ROM)
Settings within apps will be saved, but system settings will not. System settings aren't much of a burden to set up though, you'll be fine.
Titanium just updated to do this too.
Tivo7 said:
Make a backup through ROM manager before leaving liberty, reboot and go back to ROM manager and make sure the backup you just made is in the list under Manage Backups.
Follow the instructions to install shift3r (this should include a full wipe).
Once you're on shift3r, install ROM Manager and AppExtractor. Open up AppExtractor and Restore all USER APPS+DATA DO NOT RESTORE SYSTEM APPS/DATA (this will ruin the newly installed ROM)
Settings within apps will be saved, but system settings will not. System settings aren't much of a burden to set up though, you'll be fine.
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Thanks for the tip. It seems I am having some problems with ROM Manager making the backup (the sdcard-ext isnt detected during the backup process and i see no status bar moving, which I have read are indications of problems. Plus, the backup doesn't show up after a reboot). I don't have time to trouble shoot it tonight, so this may have to wait.
indigomontoya said:
Thanks for the tip. It seems I am having some problems with ROM Manager making the backup (the sdcard-ext isnt detected during the backup process and i see no status bar moving, which I have read are indications of problems. Plus, the backup doesn't show up after a reboot). I don't have time to trouble shoot it tonight, so this may have to wait.
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Backup not showing up means you need to press the first option in ROM Manager (update CWM).
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Backup not showing up means you need to press the first option in ROM Manager (update CWM).
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That did the trick. I had actually already tried that, but it never rebooted and so I figured it wasn't working. Oh well. One more silly question: Do I need to move the backup to my computer or external sdcard before wiping the system - if so where can I find it?
indigomontoya said:
That did the trick. I had actually already tried that, but it never rebooted and so I figured it wasn't working. Oh well. One more silly question: Do I need to move the backup to my computer or external sdcard before wiping the system - if so where can I find it?
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It should put it on sdcard-ext automatically. No need to move anything.

How do I restore apps from a different device?

Trying to restore titanium backup of downloaded apps and settings from another device. Apps restore properly but none of the settings do (game scores, etc.)
I have never had a problem restoring to other devices. Is there anything I have to do to fix this?
Dmore rom, semaphore kernel
Had the same problem at one point, tried fixing it but didn't know what to do and nothing seemed to make any difference. And then suddenly one day it was working again.
The only difference i can think of is I updated titanium backup. try that.
If that doesn't work try uninstalling it and reinstalling it (copy the titanium backup folder on your sd card onto your computer just in case it gets deleted, don't think it should.)
Other than that google the problem (Titanium backup wont restore apps - google search), there are ton of similar situations, there's probably an answer out there already that'll work for you
Zorigo said:
Had the same problem at one point, tried fixing it but didn't know what to do and nothing seemed to make any difference. And then suddenly one day it was working again.
The only difference i can think of is I updated titanium backup. try that.
If that doesn't work try uninstalling it and reinstalling it (copy the titanium backup folder on your sd card onto your computer just in case it gets deleted, don't think it should.)
Other than that google the problem (Titanium backup wont restore apps - google search), there are ton of similar situations, there's probably an answer out there already that'll work for you
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I'm on version 5 so that should be fine. and thanks for the link, although I did not find why data is not being restored.
Strange thing is that data from ONE app was restored but not others. After seeing that I remade the backup but the same thing happened. I wonder if its where the i9000 stores the data of backups is the issue
No other ideas? No one has had this happen?
I've been looking for a solution for two nights, this hasn't happened to anyone?
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Go into options of titanium and make sure you have backup external data to always. I run a restore this morning because I was switching ROMs and everything worked fine.
domdomrys said:
Go into options of titanium and make sure you have backup external data to always. I run a restore this morning because I was switching ROMs and everything worked fine.
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Tried it, didnt work. This is frustrating
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In advanced, there is something to do with sym link. Check that. Try again. Some roms use that.
domdomrys said:
In advanced, there is something to do with sym link. Check that. Try again. Some roms use that.
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I Have been doing that too
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Restore manually. When you go to the folder with all the backups, there should be a bunch of .tar and other files. Just install the apks on the other phone and manually restore the data in the .tars
domdomrys said:
Restore manually. When you go to the folder with all the backups, there should be a bunch of .tar and other files. Just install the apks on the other phone and manually restore the data in the .tars
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I see the tars, and in each tar there is a data folder, another data folder inside, and then the .com folders. what do i restore and where do I put it?
for example, in the AKnotepad .com folder there are these folders:
app_sslcache
databases
shared_prefs
some apps also have a files folder inside the .com
I can just place them using ES file browser with root browsing method on the phone, just am not sure where.
When O had a look into my backups, that had data folders in them. Go on your old phone and see where the files in data folders go. Most go to /data/data. I recommend Root Explorer.
domdomrys said:
When O had a look into my backups, that had data folders in them. Go on your old phone and see where the files in data folders go. Most go to /data/data. I recommend Root Explorer.
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On my old phone they go there, but i think thats what the issue is, that they are located somewhere else on the i9000?
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