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Tilt ATT HSDPA and the 3g rollout

I am in Denver and my local store told (the people i bough the phone from) me that on Oct 15th the Denver area woudl get 3g and HSDPA but i have nether. i have found threads where people say you need to do a reg edit to turn on high speed internet? is this true? is there anyone using a Tilt on a ATT 3g HSDPA network and getting good speeds? has the roll out just not happened in Denver as i was told? or do i need to do a reg edit to get it working?
thanks
Sam

Chem E Sam said:
i have found threads where people say you need to do a reg edit to turn on high speed internet? is this true? is there anyone using a Tilt on a ATT 3g HSDPA network and getting good speeds?
thanks
Sam
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Umm.. could you link to those threads? 3G works right out the box.
I live in the DFW area and 3G speeds can vary from 400kbps to 1mbps. 90% of the time it stays around 700-900kbps. Speed testing shows a wifi connection is about the same. So I almost never turn on wifi if I'm in a 3G area.

roll out must have been delayed, it is not an issue with the device (what kind of connection icon do you get when you go online?)

i get about 175-215kbs ya it sucks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335096
are the two threads i read.
"Umm.. could you link to those threads? 3G works right out the box.
I live in the DFW area and 3G speeds can vary from 400kbps to 1mbps. 90% of the time it stays around 700-900kbps. Speed testing shows a wifi connection is about the same. So I almost never turn on wifi if I'm in a 3G area."
thanks for letting me know you are getting it right out of the box. are you using the stock rom?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the SIM be a 3G sim? Have you looked into that?

Chem E Sam said:
I am in Denver and my local store told (the people i bough the phone from) me that on Oct 15th the Denver area woudl get 3g and HSDPA but i have nether.
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I am in Colorado and still no 3G but when I travelled to St. Louis this weekend I magically had 3G service with no registry hacks, etc. running the standad Tilt AT&T ROM. I'd heard the 15th for Denver as well, hopefully soon!

1. You do have to have a 3G Sim.
2. A registry hack may be needed to show HSDPA but 3G will show when you are in coverage.

No hack needed, the hack you refer too is to change the Icon to show HSDPA in use as opposed to always showing 3G in a 3G area.
No about Denver...I read there was an FCC issue and you have another year to wait now. I think it was on Yahoo business news and someone posted it on Hofo.

IN NYC i get 840 down, and 350 up..
right out of the box...

I was in the AT&T store last week here in denver, and the guy said probably closer to Nov. 1st...but I'm not holding my breath.

HSUPA on Diamond

I've seen I can activate the HSUPA on my Diamond, so I did it, but how can I know if I'm connected using HSDPA or HSUPA, is there an other icon? (like an H+ icon)

You'll get an H icon instead of 3G or G.

I've already got an H with HSDPA, but is it the same with HSUPA?

d3us said:
I've seen I can activate the HSUPA on my Diamond, so I did it, but how can I know if I'm connected using HSDPA or HSUPA, is there an other icon? (like an H+ icon)
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i read that the icon will change to U

Aqrab said:
i read that the icon will change to U
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Not so sure i believe that myself...U was the old 3G icon that was used in early WM5 builds, but most people call it 3G, not UMTS so they changed it.
@d3us. you do realise that HSDPA and HSUPA are the same thing in different directions right? it's not an either or thing. they work together at the same time. HSDPA is the download link and HSUPA is the upload link.
So if you have enabled it, and your network supports it, and it is enabled on your account.....you should be using both HSDPA and HSUPA when you see the H icon, but for most of the time, and unless you are sending serious amounts of data, you'd never notice it just browsing, watching youtube and using messenger.
however, sending emails with huge attachments....then you might notice it.

I don't know if it's enabled on my account, that's why I was wondering, then the only way to know is to test my upload rate.

yeah you wont see any difference on the display.
your upload will just be alot faster

what network you on?
AFAIK, in the UK, the only network that has turned HSUPA on for their whole network is t-mobile. although as they share with 3, i wouldn't be surprised if they had it as well.
if your on any of the other UK networks, or in another country, i can't tell you i'm afraid.

3 in Denmark says that they don't support HSUPA but I still get a much higher upload when I enable it

it could well be that they are working to launch it and have just not announced it yet. Vodafone in the UK had HSDPA for a couple of months before they actually announced it to the public.....
Still, if you're getting the higher speeds, that's pretty sweet!

I'm using Orange in France, they should have deployed the HSUPA in some cities since January but I can't test now since I'm still on holidays using an EDGE connection^^
Orange claims HSUPA improve the ping, I hope it's true.

o2 - NO 3G???

guys,
i just transferred from orange to o2. i have no 3g now?? i used networ wizrad and got the settings from o2 but still no joy
i have HK official wwe rom and there is no 3g option in comm manager either
can anyone help?

did you try running connections setup? or adding the 3g to comm manager with tf3d config to see if it is on?

yes i ran connections setup and o2 sent me the config.
i cant fiund the wsay to add 3g to comm manager in td3 flo adv??

yes 3g is enabled, just doesnt work or never active even in good signal areas, nothing! i either have H or E next to my reception

patterns said:
yes 3g is enabled, just doesnt work or never active even in good signal areas, nothing! i either have H or E next to my reception
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H? Oh dear... does someone wana tell him :/

I've been curious about this too. O2 doesn't have a 3G license, which is why they used the Jap technology i-mode (which as we know flopped). So where is the iPhone's 3G coming from? I think it's from '3', but I'm not 100%. So if you're not in a '3' coverage area I would guess this is why you don't reception on this band.

adamdon89 said:
H? Oh dear... does someone wana tell him :/
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LOL (H) = HSPDA
HSPDA=7.5Mbps Approx making it a shed load faster than 3G
High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) is a 3G (third generation) mobile telephony communications protocol in the High-Speed Packet Access (HSPA) family, which allows networks based on Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) to have higher data transfer speeds and capacity. Current HSDPA deployments support down-link speeds of 1.8, 3.6, 7.2 and 14.4 Mbit/s. Further speed increases are available with HSPA+, which provides speeds of up to 42 Mbit/s downlink.
robbed form wiki as im lazy!

adamdon89 said:
H? Oh dear... does someone wana tell him :/
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im sorry, i LOL'd when i read that.

I didn't even notice the H in his post LOL. Strange how he either gets GPRS or HSDPA though, and never any 3G.

yes this is strange - well at least it explains it. i put my 3 sim in and i get 3g straight away, oh well i can connect to internet anyhow so.... all is good
thanks for help guys

[Q] Weather affect service?

So, I'm running off a JG8 modem with 850, and in an area with good 850 coverage, and I usually get good to awesome speeds. Today, in my area, we were pounded with a blizzard. I was having issues and I ran a speed test and got 20kb down and -0 (no joke) for upload... the rest of the time it just gave me the could not connect dealy on the browser. So... My question is, does 850 do worse in cloudy coverage? Or would it not matter which band I'm on? and as a side question, anyone from utah get good 3g speeds today during the blizzard?

bad weather always has an effect on wireless signals...

hmm... I was around others with different service providers, and theirs were connecting ok... hmm. May just be an at&t thing.

[Q] vodafone uk 3g issues?

Having slight issues with my note on vodafone Uk, whenever I try to browse the internet and the 3g sign in status bar shows weboages don't load at all, when the H is showing bam they load really fast, and even when the E is showing they load but slowly, which is to be expected with edge. So why wouldn't it be loading when on 3g? Have I got some setting wrong on the phone?

HSDPA is faster than 3G.
3G (3rd Generation of Telecommunication Standards) is a standard of cellular connectivity which allows for speeds of up to 384 Kb/s downstream and 64 Kb/s upstream. 3G HSDPA is a 3G enhancement. HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) is a new mobile data protocol and is sometimes referred to as a 3.5G. Theoretically, HSDPA speeds can reach 3.6 Mbps downstream and 348 Kbps upstream. But the purpose of putting both on a smartphones is to make sure that your phone get internet access even when the other one is not available or have no access

possibly an issue with vodafone, have you contacted them to see if there are any issues?
as for the above post, totally irrelevant and hsdpa wil lgo alot faster than 3.6

Richy99 said:
possibly an issue with vodafone, have you contacted them to see if there are any issues?
as for the above post, totally irrelevant and hsdpa wil lgo alot faster than 3.6
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Yeah they seems to think my sim card needed resetting, but hasn't made a difference, still does it. Hopefully someone has the same issues with a work around searched the net for hours, with not effect. The other weird thing is if its stuck on 3g and not loading I usually disable data on power button menu then er enable and H usually comes back and it works again, even if I turn it to GSM only in network setting, so Edge is only possible it works fine also just takes ages to load any pages which is annoying!

how long you had the sim card? it might be a provisioning issue with it

You think? Well I've had it a few years now like, 3 I think.

Vodafone SIM card works fine in my Note (SIM free from Germany).
I'd suggest try your SIM card with a different phone and try a different SIM card in your Note if possible to see if the fault is with your SIM card or Note.
P.S. Are you using any custom ROM? Could be a problem there.

No I'm on stock rom kka, yeah sure its something today with network or sim card, just rang them to get a new similar. Hopefully that will sort it out.
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Fixed my issue, turns out it was happening a lot with people who have the galaxy s2, needed to enter code *#301279#, and release 5 hspa only, then disable fast dormancy mode on the phone, now I'm getting fast 3g everywhere :-D

It does say 3g and not just g?

if youre in the uk and only getting edge or gprs it may not be the phones fault.
I had a similar issue, we all assume we can get full 3G everywhere, not necessarily.
To solve this you need to buy the Vodafone sure signal box, it basically plugs into your home broadband router and then transmits full 3g around your house to whatever numbers you register on the box, including dongles.
The whole family can use it as you can register 32 numbers into it.
Cost about £50 new, i have a BNIB never been used or taken out of the box new one here, up for sale as it happens for £25.
Anyone interested should PM me....

Or you could just use wifi as you are at home anyway.

As I said sorted the issue it had something to do with the phone locking into search for hspa, and not reverting back to 3g when there wasn't any hspa signal. Apparently its a problem Samsung are working on. But the little fix of only scanning for 3g works for now, and I did a bandwidth test on hepatitis, and 3g, and 3g was actually faster. So not bothered.

Great find bud u should start another thread explaining the steps in a guide cause this is great info for Vodafone UK users
Sent from the HD2's closest replacement, the Samsung Galaxy Note