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Ok Guys, new to this site, hopefully y'all can help me out.
I recently rooted my G1, Installed the latest Cyanogen (4.7.2.1) and installed a theme ( Marks Theme). I dont have very many apps cause I didnt want to bog down the phone memory.....
I love the set up but it started running slower even after I started running the over clocker widget.
My phone is only showing 14.18 MB of free internal memory. I went through my applications installed and can only find around 25 MB being used from all installed apps ( including browser and messaging etc.)
I even tried to do a factory reset ( by going through the settings) and the factory reset is not working. It changed nothing.
Is there something that Im missing? I feel like I should have much more free memory.
I love the way my phone works and the set up, I just wish it had more free memory so that it would run faster.
Ive thought about doing the Apps2SD but I feel like I chould have much more memory on my phone even before doing something like that.
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
You could always upgrade to the new amon ra and then let it partition the sd card for you.Then you can have all that free phone storage for whatever it is.Bext time just try to restrict yourself from posting in wrong section
-Best regards
IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
Most people using the Cyanogen ROM also utilize A2SD. Partition your SD card and you'll get more room.
pewterwest said:
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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There is no issue, you just don't have an ext partition ergo, all applications are installed to your phone which is why you have low phone memory.
pewterwest said:
Thank you for the quick response. Is there a way to move this thread?
Also is there a better ROM that will take up less memory? I like this version but obviously it is wayy to large.
Anyone else running cyanogen 4.7.2.1 having this issue?
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Hello! app2SD will put the apps to ext...Then you will have more memory, why do you think people use it? To save even more money on geico?
Go here for the amon recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
Hi, first of this has nothing to do with development, should be in Q&A. Please remember for next time
OK, when you're on a custom ROM, don't use factory reset. Instead boot in to the recovery image and perform a wipe from there, and that's exactly what I'd suggest. Be prepared to loose everything stored on the phones memory, but you can use a backup app from the market for that... No you really should way more space than that, I can't really explain why...
IConrad01 said:
This is a question, and as such belongs in the Q&A section. You'll receive a better response to such things there.
The internal memory you're referring to is your /system partition.
It is where the entire OS is stored, basically. Which takes up, in your case, a whopping 55 MB (out of 70 MB).
If you //really// want more room, follow the Apps-2-SD tutorials out there. You'll get /plenty/ of space.
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The phone has two main partitions: /system and /data. It isn't /system that's filling up, it's /data (which makes sense...). The phone can't write to /system when it's unrooted, so it's not possible to store files there...
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
EDIT:
some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
Young Money. Cash Money.
(partition sd card)
The non rooted standard T-Mobile rom is about the same size and will give you about the same amount of free space. There could be a more barebones rom but I think it's just a lot easier to run Apps2SD then to create a rom that might get you an extra 10mb of internal space. This is the fault of the internal memory on the phone being small. The only way to fix that is getting Apps2sd running which if you make a partion of 100mb should be enough to install all the apps you need. Getting a larger SD card for $10 is also another option so you wont have 1/10th of your sd cards storage gone.
djdarkknight96 said:
Everyone is trying to help but for a noob it can be a bit too much...4.2.7.1 is the best Rom available so keep that....RA Recovery is the best way to set up your memory card to accept your apps and keep them there freeing up a ton of space on the phone....simple way to fix is....Just format you sdcard with EXT3 using the RA-recovery v1.5.1 then once your card is formatted just reboot and Cyanogen's rom will move all the apps for you.....will not need to wipe any info on the phone that way...done it many times......Pm me if you need help!!!!
EDIT:
some threads to help:
Ra - Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
OR-
[REF] manual partition of sdcard w/parted,goto ext3/4 from adb. no liveCD req'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714
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Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
pewterwest said:
Guys thank you very much for your help..... i partioned my sd and now i have 58.8 MB free on internal.... you guys are great.
Is there anything else i can do besides rooting, apps2sd and overclocker to make even faster?
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You can always try different roms. CM is good and fast, but maybe try dwang 1.13 or Wesgarner version. wg is based on CM. I find it faster and more stable but this is just my opinion. if you back everything up with nandroid and some app like mybackup, you can flash all you want. you'll be able to get everything back with a nandroid/mybackup restore. try different stuff out and figure out what you like!
Hi there,
Is there a way to make the add the internal SD card to the main memmory? So that there would not be an internal SD card anymore?
I do not mean swapping the moutpoints around so my External_SD becomes my primary and my internal my second....
I want to get rid of the internal one alltogether (adding it to main memory).
I figure that I'll have to format the storage in a certain way... would that do it?
Can someone tell me step by step what to do?
I do have CW-mod installed.
I did search the forum, but couldnt find anything conclusive. Just hints that it should be possible...
If there already is a thread where all this is explained, please point me to it, because I couldn't find it.
Thanks,
Pfeffa-rah
I don't think this is possible , never heard of someone who did it
I have no idea how to do that. My question is... why would you want to do that?
Having an internal_sd partition adds the benefit of having big app data (such as those in Gameloft games) sit in a very fast partition and still be called "sddata".
Also, it's mountable via PC so everything in there can still be backed up. So it's best of both worlds really.
This was discussed some time ago in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013575
There were ideas on how to remount the cards at boot. I myself come to the conclusion that since more phones start to behave in this way, app developers will have to start dealing with it. It just sucks they are mostly slow on the uptake. My main problem was the Spotify cache location being hard coded so I resorted to hack the Spotify apk.
PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".
sorech said:
PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".
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That was actually an honest question.
I wanted to understand why he wanted to do it. (i.e. What would be the advantages of it.) There was no supposed sarcasm in there.
how about the ability to install 5x more applications?
Having that stupid 5gb partition as sd card and the real sd card as a sub folder is retarded...
My 32GB class 10 cars is a lot faster than the internal one.
The internal 5gb memory is MUCH TOO SMALL!!! Most apps don't allow you to store data on the external card. If you like me and many others install some games that download aditional data + a nav app that downloads maps for europe + some streaming music app like wimp that can cache music for offline play then you are ****ed with LG's setup.
The setup CM7 uses solves the main problem but effectively wastes the 5gb by mounting it at emmc where like 0,0001% of apps are able to access it.
So adding those otherwise wasted 5gb to the main memory would be great. But i have not seen any solution to that yet :-(
Thank you Gensplejs for explaining that to them. I had no idea how to reply to that since it seemed so obvious to me.
This thread was ment to be a question about how to do it and not to discuss the usefullness of it. That is where I lost the way in other threads...
So, thanks for your replys all (realy).
But now, back On-Topic:
How would I do it?
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Please don't blame me if you tried it and you screwed up your phone.. It's your choice...
Well, I don't know if this would work, but this is how I would do it (accepting the fact that I'd loose almost 2GB of /data's free space):
1. Format your internal sd card to the same file system as your /data partition is (ext3 or ext4)
2. Copy every file from /data 1:1 to your sdcard (cp -R /data/* /sdcard)
3. I don't know when and where the partitions are mounted (maybe init.rc??)...anyways change the target there and let /data point to the internal sd card partition (so it is ensured that it is mounted automatically to the new location)
4. Reboot and keep your fingers crossed
I think i figured how to do it in theory. First we need some free space at our microsd to cp /data. Then we should repartition with fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 and p9 into one partition and change vold.fstab to mount only externalsd at /sdcard as we do when we swap partitions. In theory it should work but i cant test it right now or make a script since ve gone vacations and i dont have a pc to restore in case of error
I agree.. certain apps wont store to sdcard.. its better to use the whole 8gb as phone storage, and use external sdcard as default sdcard.
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What ive found till now is that sd swapping is easy. You can do it by tweaking only vold.fstab. But repatriationing is a pain in the ass. Looks like lg has "faulty" partitions or something and to do it you must mesh up with with almost half partitions.
I had to rebuilt boot lgdrm recovery data and sdcard to make em half work. So it probably isnt worth the trouble. Also I think init.rc is built on the boot. So just remounting internal sd to /data wont work either.
sectors is not space
it says 7996, so thats 8GB
i saw it in hurry. the brain sometimes belives whats he want to belive
sorry
New to XDA
Hello everybody,
I'm new to android and i'm trying to find out how to solve the problem posted in this thread.
I see you've got the awnser but i don't know how to do this.
I've been searching google and XDA for ever but i just can't find the awnser.
Could you make a step by step howto or point out to a post how to do this.
I mean converting your external sd to ext4 and change the mounting points.
I'm a complete nood, i didn't get adb to work on my pc, ext4 recovery is not for the p990 2x.
I've read something abbout changing fstap for swapping te mounting points for sdcard and emmc, witch is also ok for me, but formating to ext4... wel i frankly don't know how to do this.
I'm quite stuk on this.
The only partitioning experience i've got is Gparted in Ubuntu or repartitioning in Windows 7.
Thans in andvance!
Greetz,
JMG
http://android.modaco.com/topic/347...-partitions/page__gopid__1821791#entry1821791
check this
you can expand data partition , but there is a limitation of 1.75gb
Thanks davjan
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
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what rom are you using? is your phone rooted?
swapping internal with internal sd is very easy
and most of the roms here on xda are ext4 , if you instal one of them they autoconvert to ext4
Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
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I you read the link provided you'll see that it makes what you want: grow internal filesystem = lower SDcard usable space. The only thing is that it doesn't seem possible is to use the whole space: system limitation. 75Markus tried high /system and /data values and phone didn't work.
See in his Mediafire Folder, 'Nvflash + guide for changing Partitions:
http://www.mediafire.com/75markus
Ext4 is now common with custom ROMs (in fact all of them).
You should search in sd-ext partition system, which was designed to artificially expand filesystem on older phones using an 'ext' partition. I didn't heard anybody using this on O2X.
If you use CyanogenMod based ROMs, your external card will be mounted ad /sdcard by default.
Switching internal and external SD
Thanks guy's,
I'll check it out.
I've been using cyanogenmod 7.1 stable with vorkkernel 20110208.
But that gave me batterydrains while using maps and nextvid ate the same time (while i'm driving).
Now i'm trying MIUI 1.11.11 with latest swift extreme.
But MIUI is very buggy so i'm thinking of going back to CM.
The only thing is that my phone won't boot with the latest vorkkernel.
I have a Dell Streak 7 (T-Mobile version) 3.2 Honeycomb, installed via "[Guide]New HC Rom: 506/507 + Installation Instructions [Including US 4G]". Everything works great, except I have run out of application space.
I have over 11 gigs free, but with 3.2 you can't install anything on the internal SD, or external SD for that matter. I bought 32gig SD cards to store files, I want all the internal storage for Applications and settings.
How can I make the internal storage be one large data partition or at least increase the data partition size, while decreasing the internal SD size.
And for how I ran out, the free apps from Google and Amazon. I have about 200 from the Amazon Free App A Day promotion alone.
aquillasupra said:
I have a Dell Streak 7 (T-Mobile version) 3.2 Honeycomb, installed via "[Guide]New HC Rom: 506/507 + Installation Instructions [Including US 4G]". Everything works great, except I have run out of application space.
I have over 11 gigs free, but with 3.2 you can't install anything on the internal SD, or external SD for that matter. I bought 32gig SD cards to store files, I want all the internal storage for Applications and settings.
How can I make the internal storage be one large data partition or at least increase the data partition size, while decreasing the internal SD size.
And for how I ran out, the free apps from Google and Amazon. I have about 200 from the Amazon Free App A Day promotion alone.
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My suggestion to you is to flash DJ Steve's HoneyStreak using the NVFlash method. Inside the folder he allows for up to a 6GB app partition if you wanna take it that far... as far as I know of that's the only way to repartition your internal SD.
Create backups of all those apps, create backup of everything on your internal sd because the process is going to wipe everything, and then reinstall and copy back
Any Fixes?
Even I am stuck there. Did anybody find any solution to this.
Can I use the CWM to create a new data partition? I am having rooted Stock 3.2.
rguptan said:
Even I am stuck there. Did anybody find any solution to this.
Can I use the CWM to create a new data partition? I am having rooted Stock 3.2.
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Did you not read my post, THAT is the easiest solution... I can't think of any way to install 6 gigs of apps, but some people just don't know when to quit installing without realizing what it does to the OS... and even that can be modified if you know how to configure the specific sectors of the internal SD, but I have no experience with that
cdzo72 said:
I can't think of any way to install 6 gigs of apps, but some people just don't know when to quit installing without realizing what it does to the OS...
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But 6 gb?= I think thats quite enough to use 100+ apps.
exebreez said:
But 6 gb?= I think thats quite enough to use 100+ apps.
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I'm with you man but I get so frustrated by the noobs that don't realize the reason they were given the option to install to SD in the first place... back in those days when it was necessary and apps were actually coded to run well off an external SD it was ok, but they don't understand that most apps these days prohibit it for many reasons, they just demand too much to run off the external SD and they don't seem to wanna use their brains and wrap their heads around the idea that there's no sense in having hundreds of apps installed... hopefully within the next year those types will either move to the iPhones they should be using because they have no business using a flexible android device or they will frustrated and get talked into buy a brokenglass (windows) phone
I think you should stop using your power to think about those fags.
At this point the question of the OP is answered, isnt it?
If there is another question to this topic please write down. For other questions make a thread.
Btw. whos afraid of asking, is free to PM me, ill answer in max 24h.
exebreez said:
I think you should stop using your power to think about those fags.
At this point the question of the OP is answered, isnt it?
If there is another question to this topic please write down. For other questions make a thread.
Btw. whos afraid of asking, is free to PM me, ill answer in max 24h.
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Within the thread the question may be answered several times, that won't stop a noob from asking it again, much less keep a moderator from pointing out it has already been asked and solved
cdzo72 said:
Within the thread the question may be answered several times, that won't stop a noob from asking it again, much less keep a moderator from pointing out it has already been asked and solved
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The noob isnt the you who is guilty so its sinless.
This is what I ended up doing
From the CWM recovery I created a ext3 partition on my SD Card and use Link2SD from market.
Thanks to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490563&highlight=link2sd
To resize the partition later I had used GParted from a linux live CD.
Honeystreak partition method
I wanted to test a theory on this myself. So I will start with saying I am running 3.2 official with 514(rooted). I use 514 to be able to use my dock. Love me or hate me.
1) I did a nandroid backup on my sd card. I used my app backup tool to backup my apps just in case.
2) I flashed Honeystreak R2 using NVFLASH.
3) I then placed Honeystreak R8 on my sd card with the text file as instructed. and then installed the zip using CWM.
4) I then fastbooted the latest (and greatest) CWM 5.0.2.8
5) Then booted CWM 5.0.2.8 and flashed my Nandroid Backup.
6) CHA-CHING!!!!
I was able to keep the 4 GB partition that was created using the Honeystreak R2 NVFLASH.
This is tested and it works so you can get up to 6GB using this method.
hi,
i am running CM 7.2.0 RC5.1 KANG on my galaxy mini.
after fighting myself through endless threads i still cannot find the answer to my question. or maybe i have missed something or it was too complicated for me to understand.
many of those memory increasing posts are only for stock roms.
and i want to increase it with cm7 on the phone. is that possible?
i intend to update to the latest official CM in the near future. would it be easier with a clean install?
please share some information ... i have only 20 MB left
Use any app2sd program you prefer.
Most famous and used are s2e, link2sd, etc
As i was on galaxy mini, i used mebiteks rc0 v0.7 cyanogenmod in combination with link2sd and a 512 mb extended partition. It worked flawless.
Just pic your choice and try.
TIP: Make a backup of your current rom. In case something goes wrong you can go back to last state.
Good luck.
thanks for the quick reply.
i am still a bit confused.
in some threads they write: don't use program X, others say never use program Y and some even say never ever use progam Z.
some members report bootloops, some get instant cancer or die right away.
any clues what works "best" with my rom or do i have to go via K.O. System?
What program works best depends on the rom you use.
I believe S2E works fine on that rom.
sorry, perhaps i didn't make myself clear enough.
i have only 5 apps installed (additionally to the cm7 apks)
the other 60+ programs are installed on the sd card.
my question was: how can i INCREASE the 178 mb ram on the galaxy mini.
let's say ... 1 GB ... that would be fine.
as i have mentioned before, those scripts or progs are available for stock rom only.
thairicci said:
sorry, perhaps i didn't make myself clear enough.
i have only 5 apps installed (additionally to the cm7 apks)
the other 60+ programs are installed on the sd card.
my question was: how can i INCREASE the 178 mb ram on the galaxy mini.
let's say ... 1 GB ... that would be fine.
as i have mentioned before, those scripts or progs are available for stock rom only.
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Practically speaking, you cannot increase the 178mb internal memory.. that is a hardware limitation.. what we can do instead is alter how android utilize the internal memory. If you want to see 1GB as your internal memory, amarullz and ungaze scripts can do that. You must have a 1GB sd-ext partition on your sdcard for you to use this scripts. Recommend amarullz though coz ungaze makes things laggy.. to know more and how to use these scripts, do a search in the dev section..
Sent from my GT-S5570
By the way, I guess the one that you are referring to as memory hack that are for stock is the work of DOC.cheilvenerd.org..
Sent from my GT-S5570
why samsung put cellphones so small memory?
i have also memory almost full.
muro321 said:
why samsung put cellphones so small memory?
i have also memory almost full.
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you go to samsung centre and blame it there...
First take a backup of ur sd card content .. As it will wipe of ur sd card !
Go into cwm - select sd card partition - select how much u want to increase ur internal memory-select swap value 64 mb -and then reboot
This is the easiest way to increase internal memory
muro321 said:
why samsung put cellphones so small memory?
i have also memory almost full.
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exactly dude we should have a internel memory like of nokia
Lol ..
so lost!! please help!
hello there
i have the galaxy s3mini GT- 18190N
uk resident
carrier T-Mobile
android version 4.1.2
kernel version 3.0.31-1436784
ive had the phone for some time now and obviously internal space has became a problem so i looked around the net and it seemed that the first thing i must do was to root the phone....
i rooted with the main intention of being able to put my apps into my 32gb extsd card
secondly to perhaps upgrade the OS to say lollipop
thirdly to maybe try out some of these custom roms ive read so much about.
so i did root the phone using kingroot app, this seemed to help with the speed of the phone/reduced lagging and such but not with internal memory.
i then looked around for a solution and the general answer was to install link2sd and app2sd.
i installed both but had no joy due to no 2nd partition on sd card.
this led me to downloading rommanager (which apparently can create a 2nd partition on the etxSD) well this is when i realised my noobness knew no bounds, because for the life of me i cant seem to be able to do it lol
i looked around again and read as much as i could in regards to creating a 2nd partition on the extSD but again have not found a clear (complete and utter noob proof) guide to do this so am now stuck in limbo
ive read so much this last few days about flash/roms/internal sd/internal phone memory/external sd/nands/backups/backdowns/backflips ect. that i feel completely lost.
i understand this is probably a very tedious request to you more educated folk but what i would like to know is:
1 - can i return my phone to stock settings? (what it was like before i rooted) will this delete all the changes ive made and apps ive downloaded? and is this the best idea? to start all over again from scratch? if so how?
or can i download a custom rom that already has these settings? by settings i mean the ability to move my apps to the external SD? if so, how?
im really sorry for being a pain but my brains gonna explode.
please help
thank you
anyone that can help me please
I had your same problem twice. I just forgot to set the new partition "active".. Did you already check if the partition is primary and active?
Stefano Cappelletti said:
I had your same problem twice. I just forgot to set the new partition "active".. Did you already check if the partition is primary and active?
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hey thanks for the reply!
erm.... how would i do that exactly?
ive downloaded rom manager and tried to create a second partition using that, but that doesnt seem to work either?
i am close to just giving up to be honest, got a 32gb sd card and it just sitting there gathering dust while my internal memory is sucked dry of any space.
paddroid said:
hey thanks for the reply!
erm.... how would i do that exactly?
ive downloaded rom manager and tried to create a second partition using that, but that doesnt seem to work either?
i am close to just giving up to be honest, got a 32gb sd card and it just sitting there gathering dust while my internal memory is sucked dry of any space.
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You can create and manage partitions with your pc, you just need an adaptor and than you can use "MiniTool Partition Wizard Free" that is a free partition manager tool! :good: Right click on the partition and then "set active" (both partition are primary, but one fs is EXT4 and the other one is Fat32, set active the ETX4 one) :good: