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[Q] Why galaxy's S screen looks worse than iphone's 4 ?

if the galaxy S' screen is known to be way better than the iphone 4 ( AMOLED vs Retina ) then how come when i hold my friend's iphone i see his phone's display looking wayyy much better than my galaxy ? even at full brightness , mine still looks yellow/ or darker than his screen
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well I have compared an iPhone and my sgs and their is no comparison, mine was way better. Both were at fully brightness , that time I was at 2.3.4 jvr stock.
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You can use Voodoo colour to adjust the colour settings.

Iphone's has higher resolution.
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Iphone's has higher resolution.
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Probably what he says he correct. I'm no expert, But if you look real close at the display screens (you can notice this on letters), You can see the dots (pixels) that made up each letter (or an image) on galaxy S. (and S ii as well).
But on iPhone, The Pixels are not visible, thus makes the image more smooth and clearer.

Screen on my SGS II looks great. Fonts look smooth and clear; even small font sizes. IMHO, I think the the Super AMOLED+ display looks much better than the screen on the iPhone 4. It's brighter, has far better color saturation, and is more energy efficient. I prefer AMOLED displays over traditional LCD because AMOLED displays have self illuminating pixels, which means no backlighting is needed, making for an evenly lit display. (no bright spots or shadowing).
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My uncle has an iPhone4 and his screen may be more crisp, but the colors on my sgs is so much better.
If you want the best screen available buy a galaxy nexus, the screen has almost (just a few procent) the same ppi as the iPhone, but its a super amoled screen so the colors are much more vivid then the iPhone.
Mathijs
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I phone's screen is 3.5" and sgs's screen is 4.0" and so even if they had equal resolutions then iPhone would have came out better . Here we are talking about brightness and colours and I don't believe iPhone has any comparison with this beauty I am typing this reply on.
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The screen of the Galaxy S IS better. Maybe you were not at full brightness oder sth like that ..
It's really supposed to be better, like the people before me posted.
A iphone user will say "mine is better" .. don't mind

YEA64 said:
The screen of the Galaxy S IS better. Maybe you were not at full brightness oder sth like that ..
It's really supposed to be better, like the people before me posted.
A iphone user will say "mine is better" .. don't mind
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Haha, maybe he was at low battery when he compared his sgs with iphone .

Iphone has way more pixels than the i9000. plus iphone does not use pentile.
iphone is 960x640 x 3 (normal rbg is 3 subpixels per pixel)= 1 843 200 subpixels
samsung i9000 is 800x480x2(pentile is 2 subpixels per pixel) = 768 000 subpixels
1843000/768000=2.4
so iphone has 2.4 times more subpixels than the i9000.
plus iphone has a small smaller screen, considering all these factors, iphone will no doubt look better. But ask yourself, how much marginal utility (real usable benefits) would you get out of a such high density screen?
My answer is there is no really extra benefits you can get out.

investmenttechnology said:
Iphone has way more pixels than the i9000. plus iphone does not use pentile.
iphone is 960x640 x 3 (normal rbg is 3 subpixels per pixel)= 1 843 200 subpixels
samsung i9000 is 800x480x2(pentile is 2 subpixels per pixel) = 768 000 subpixels
1843000/768000=2.4
so iphone has 2.4 times more subpixels than the i9000.
plus iphone has a small smaller screen, considering all these factors, iphone will no doubt look better. But ask yourself, how much marginal utility (real usable benefits) would you get out of a such high density screen?
My answer is there is no really extra benefits you can get out.
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+1 and great maths.

I think this guy is trolling here!

Blah blah blah. The retina display has higher pixel density; so what. This forum is about Android, not iPhone. I think I speak for most when I say that nobody cares about the iPhone or it's retina display. Apple's idea of state of the art is a recycled iPhone 4 with 3g? I'll pass. You fanboys can keep your overpriced, old technology.

Iphone edges out the sgs in a number or screen aspects, but SGS has two extremely important and significant advantages.
1. Screen size - ip4 screen is tiny. higher resolution helps out but it's just more comfortable and practical to use a bigger screen.
2. Contrast - ever since I looked at the superamoled, all other screen contrast has been ewww (iphone, ipad included), especially in darker settings.
For that, my next phone must have amoled plus a screen size >= 4"

iphone4;
+more pixels (high resolution small area)..
sgs;
+good color
+good contrast
+bigger

the reason why your screen may be darker is because AMOLED screen tend to wear down over time.

the only problem in my case is the battery i ve SGS1

Back light displays are passe.

AMOLED at this state is not the future technology.
Why?
It dies so fast (burn-in effect shows this), and maybe after a year it could lose third of the initial brightness.
Just look at the new LCDs over 1000 nits and reduced power consumption, viewing angle needless to speak of, and many more improvements, AMOLED gain sharpness, and lost some brightness, burn-in still there, and some other problems.
I had Samsung Wave and then SGS and returning to SGS 2 or Galaxy Nexus is a no go since there is no improvement on this field (give big cash and worry about how long was the status bar on, so it won't burn in, give me a brake).
Amoled is yet to grow or die...

So, I got an SGS2 today, my thoughts...

The IPS screen is truly wonderful on the Optimus 2X, that's basically it's only redeeming feature.
Pros SGS2:
Bigger screen (but worse quality)
Thinner
Lighter
Better performance (stock ICS 4.0.4)
Better battery life
Faster IO - Apps very quick to "install".
The touchkey lights are not as bright as O2X, less annoying, only 2 not 4.
16GB internal
Cons:
Questionable strength, mine has a cracked screen, O2X has not ever cracked despite drops worse than those videos on YouTube.
Screen is really, really bad, I have high standards but christ AMOLED is the worst idea ever...
Battery needs to be removed to get SD card out.
O2X pros:
The screen is nice.
The O2X is more resistant to drops,
Better speaker (loud not call)
Cons:
Basically inferior to the SGS2 in every single way.
Camera is worse.
Heavier
Slower
Antutu benchmark
sgs2: 6595 - stock 100% ics
o2x: 5257 - nightly 08 nov CM10
Camera comparison:
SGS2 is top
o2x bottom
SGS2:
Warm colours, everything detailed nicely.
Wider field of view (Both phones were in same position when photo was taken, more or less. they were ontop of eachother.
LG2x:
Very washed out looking, not a lot of clarity to the image.
http://imgur.com/a/YE9KS
It is difficult to do a comparison, the O2X is a little faster around the operating system, opening/closing apps etc, but that's because of JB I would say.

If you think the SGS2 screen is bad, you should see the PENTILE super amoleds (e.g. gs1, ns)

jryan388 said:
If you think the SGS2 screen is bad, you should see the PENTILE super amoleds (e.g. gs1, ns)
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ugh. I don't want to imagine anything worse than what the SGS2 has.

Yep, x2 feels outdated compared to sgs2
But the sound quality on sgs2 is just unacceptable

nlab said:
Yep, x2 feels outdated compared to sgs2
But the sound quality on sgs2 is just unacceptable
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Yea I did notice the speaker wasn't great.

Mungulz said:
Yea I did notice the speaker wasn't great.
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Good to know. I was thinking about SGS2 for replacing my O2X because IMHO external speaker of O2X sounds bad (my wife has an Xperia Neo V and to my ears the external speaker sounds better and louder), and knowing this I'll no longer consider SGS2.

Battery? I mean with 3g always on
For me it was a disaster with the LG while the S1 of my father was great, don't know much about the S2

Haven't had it long enough to test battery.
I assume its better just based on my light usage.
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I have had enought about these comparisons ..

Compare SGS2 with Ainol Novo 7 Crystal
$100 VS what ever SGS2 price right now
7" VS what ever SGS2 screen is
price to performance ..
i know its not "apple" to "apple" and its ridicilous comparing phones with tablet ..
but you making a new thread for this is silly
comparing phone with "antutu" :cyclops:
but i think yes .. if LG can make the softkey a little bit smaller .. than the screen may have something like 4.3" ,, that must be great ..
but please .. dont make another thread to compare phones .. this is O2X thread ..

IMO amoleds are worst if compared with IPS LCDs
AMOLED = saturated colours
+ black spots on screen(by product of amoled manufacturing processes)
Only good thing about amoleds are contrast ratio is good
I have both optimus 2x n galaxy nexus
And i have my nexus screen and built quality, all plastic
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seriousia said:
IMO amoleds are worst if compared with IPS LCDs
AMOLED = saturated colours
+ black spots on screen(by product of amoled manufacturing processes)
Only good thing about amoleds are contrast ratio is good
I have both optimus 2x n galaxy nexus
And i have my nexus screen and built quality, all plastic
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Also in games I notice weird little patches around effects, I just hate this screen lol.
Doubt I'll ever use my 2x again, gave it to my sister. Had no idea how much better the s2 was all this time, should have sold up ages ago, or just paid the extra $100 for the s2 13 months ago when I bought the 2x..
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I've had a SGSII and i could say that it is a great phone period. But OX2 It's better in a lot of thing's. Only in battery life, camera and memory is inferior to SGSII

jnscarvalho said:
I've had a SGSII and i could say that it is a great phone period. But OX2 It's better in a lot of thing's. Only in battery life, camera and memory is inferior to SGSII
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Would never substitute my penguin o2x even if someone would gift me samsung galaxy s2...:good:

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Would never substitute my penguin o2x even if someone would gift me samsung galaxy s2...:good:
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SGSII it's a really good device, but has his problems, it's normal. But you should try cyangalop on OX2

I think buying the 2X was one of the worst decisions in my mobile history. The phone was unnecessarily slow and support was the worst ever. I should have gone with the GS2, but now I'm very satisfied with the GS3. Don't get me wrong, I really tried to get the most out of the 2X, but it's performance frustrated me.
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who cares about your samsungs, iphones or any other phones else than p990... this is o2x forum... thanks

60nine said:
who cares about your samsungs, iphones or any other phones else than p990... this is o2x forum... thanks
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I think my comment was on topic here. Not sure what your point is.
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i was talking in general... not reffering to your post...
whole threads like this are offtopic in general - only my 2 cents...

You can't compare a phone to another that is 100 eur more expensive... or... you can compare it... but you would have to try to think in terms of price/quality ratio... and I would say the O2X gives you a pretty good bang for your buck. Of course if it was now I would go for the N4, not even a slightest doubt in my mind.

After using Nexus 4 a few hours, I decide to sell it...

Hi everyone, Nexus 4 is my very first Android phone in my life, I used to use Iphone even though I'm not an IFan. Here is my 2cents why I have to sell it.
Screen Display
Yes !! Nexus 4 comes with TRUE IPS LCD, seems like the same thing on LG OPTIMUS G which I saw at BB and I like it very much. But Nexus 4 is worse than Optiomus G's screen (IDK why?). First of all is it's brightness, my eye is get used to iPhone scrren which has white balance > 600 cd/m, Nexus 4 I bielieve is 470 cd/m ( Optimus G is 471 cd/m but idk why it so much brighter)
Second, the color saturation is so bad, comparing the my Iphone 4s beside, I can tell 4s screen is more colorful, better exposition and nicer contrast.
Low white balance hurts my eyes so badly when browsing website even in a bigger screen...
Except those reasons above, Nexus 4 is the good phone.

Good for you. Bad reasons in my opinion, but I digress

I bet everyone cares

cool story bro.
hopefully the other 3 posts you have made on this website have been just as insightful.

LOL, instagram hipster....

All those "problems" were fixed with gamma control. You lost out on a good phone.

Oh well, in the end it's all about what you want. If you want brighter and over saturated colors then go for it. I keep my phone on auto brightness, it's far from the highest brightness and never had a problem with it. The color seems nice, a little more realistic I think rather then over saturated. The iPhone's do have a nice color though from what I've seen but not a huge difference.

ketjr81 said:
Oh well, in the end it's all about what you want. If you want brighter and over saturated colors then go for it. I keep my phone on auto brightness, it's far from the highest brightness and never had a problem with it. The color seems nice, a little more realistic I think rather then over saturated. The iPhone's do have a nice color though from what I've seen but not a huge difference.
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^^yah this :good:
i don't know what a cd/m measures, but visually comparing my screen to my wife's iphone there is very little difference (apart from size) ...

If you like saturation and good contrast then try AMOLED devices like the S3, it might not look as good as the iPhone though. YMMV.
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Too be the screen can be very bright?? I keep my brightness on very low, colours are very nice imo but i think you are an ifan

Thanks for letting us know! Be sure to check back in and keep us updated on any other phone related decisions you make.
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Would you recommend this phone to a new buyer?

Hi all,
I'm interested in what people think of their phone? I'm an interested buyer and know that talking to people here can be very useful before a purchase!
I bought a cool phone a few months ago but it has one terrible point - the battery is crap (1320mha). The S3 Mini has 'only' 1500mha but I notice in reviews it ranks really well for battery, more like a 1800-2000mha battery. I'm also very interested in AMOLED which doesn't use an LCD backlight. (more vivid colours, black uses tiny battery, white uses a lot).
Why I like this phone and might buy it:
- battery performs very well in online reviews, especially for web browsing which I need
- the latest Android, good specs for future upgrades
- AMOLED screen doesn't use battery-killing LCD backlight
- Good size for one hand, I'm a grown man but not a bear, my hands are not huge
Anything anyone would like to say about their phone?? Anything annoy you about your phone?
GSM Arena S3 Mini Battery Test:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-ga...hes-our-battery-tests-the-results-are-inside/
GSM Arena S3 Mini Specifications:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8190_galaxy_s_iii_mini-5033.php

I love this phone! Was after a decent upgrade for my Desire S and this is perfect!
My only real gripe is the power button...stupid place to put them on the side, as I sometimes turn it off when it's in my pocket! Never happened when it was on the top with my DS.
Also got over the low PPI which isn't actually THAT bad.
It's fast and is perfect size IMO.

My only real problem with this phone (coming from a Dream, a Cliq, a Vision, and a Doubleshot) is the lack of a hardware keyboard. Other than that, this device is great. Cyanogen just needs to leak us the recovery source code.

Would I recommend this phone to a new user? YES
Good Points
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Great Battery (with moderate usage I can get a day and a half out of it)
Front and Back cameras (Excellent for video calling)
Jellybean
Quick and responsive
Bad Points
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No notifications LED
Poor positioning of power button
Low internal storage (but fixable)
No flash (but fixable)
Poorish screen resolution (but not a big issue)
Awful email client
Bugs in jellybean
Lots of Samsung bloatware
Although there seems more bad than good with this phone once you root the phone you can sort out a lot of them. You can use bloatware remover to delete samsung's bloat. The internal storage limit can be fixed so instead of your apps being installed to the internal sdcard they get installed to the external sdcard. You can download flash for ICS from adobes archives. The main gripe I had was the lack of a notifications LED meaning you don't know if you've had a missed call if the screen is off. There is an app called NOLED which addresses this and other apps that flash your cameras LED. There are quite a few things I had to sort out before I was happy like getting a 3rd party keyboard as the inbuilt dictionary was rubbish and an installed widget called zoom messaging kept on crashing.
One problem the S3 Mini has is people will compare it to its big brother the S3. This is Samsung's fault for trying to pass this phone as a smaller version of the S3 when it is not. However it is still a very good phone in its own right.

You don't need to install additional apps to get flash light. There is widget called "assistive light" for it.
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My old Nokia N8, also amoled, had the screen 'always-on', but almost black and with the clock shown in dark grey so it used very little battery. This was a great idea imho, considering doing a mod to do the same on the S3 mini. This could integrate well with 4.2 and the lock-screen widgets.

xd.bx said:
My old Nokia N8, also amoled, had the screen 'always-on', but almost black and with the clock shown in dark grey so it used very little battery. This was a great idea imho, considering doing a mod to do the same on the S3 mini. This could integrate well with 4.2 and the lock-screen widgets.
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Hey buddy. Yeah, that fits in very well with what I read about AMOLED, I read up on it recently as I because semi-convinced that the backlight in LCD screens are evil An organisation of companies involved in AMOLED production and development have a free PDF online which explains the technology simply and why it's better than LCD in their opinion. They did say that black on the screen uses very, very little energy but white uses a LOT of energy. So we would properly feel the benefits of the darker UI on Android with an AMOLED screen, whereas LCD would use the same amount of power regardless of the screen, so they claim.
I will definitely take your handy tip on the black screen and simple, grey clock...wish I could do that to my mobile broswer!

Does anyone use this phone as their main music player? How do you like it? My current phone has a music player that sounds much better than my iPod but the phone battery is terrible.
Also, would I be right in saying most people get about 1 day and a half out of the battery? I would like to use the phone for about 1hour-90 minutes of news reading, a couple of emails, 1 hour of music with earphones, 5 minutes of calls per day. With that my current phone cries like torture.

yes this are mid range phone and will update in lime pie someday
good battery bcoz of the novathor chipset.
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The tab s is a beast!

My old tablet was a note 10.1 2014 which was heavy, somewhat slow and had a washed out screen when viewed on the sides. The tab s on the other hand is extremely light weight, fluid and virtually lag free (if you use Nova launcher)!! I can't believe Samsung did such a poor job of updating their previous flagship. These two tablets have virtually the same specs but the experience on the note was just painful because you always knew it could do more. Even opening the keyboard and typing on it was kinda slow.
I have no idea what Samsung is doing releasing these many tables to flood the market and I guess they're borrowing a page or two from apples playback regarding planned obsolescence for their hardware.
This is the best tablet experience I have ever had on Android and I have used both the nexus 7s, note 10.1 2014 and the nexus 10. Speed is on per with the note 3 which is a beast of an android.

yeah ive seen the 2014 edition as well as the tab pro tablets ive always noticed the screens are kinda washed out or im just used to super amoled on my notes lol

kingofthebraves said:
My old tablet was a note 10.1 2014 which was heavy, somewhat slow and had a washed out screen when viewed on the sides. The tab s on the other hand is extremely light weight, fluid and virtually lag free (if you use Nova launcher)!! I can't believe Samsung did such a poor job of updating their previous flagship. These two tablets have virtually the same specs but the experience on the note was just painful because you always knew it could do more. Even opening the keyboard and typing on it was kinda slow.
I have no idea what Samsung is doing releasing these many tables to flood the market and I guess they're borrowing a page or two from apples playback regarding planned obsolescence for their hardware.
This is the best tablet experience I have ever had on Android and I have used both the nexus 7s, note 10.1 2014 and the nexus 10. Speed is on per with the note 3 which is a beast of an android.
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I agree completely. I will also add that there was a hardware bluetooth issue, because the same bluetooth keyboard that would constantly disconnect on the Note 2014 now works without issue on the Tab S. I had made modifications to my Note and it ran great and battery life was good, but the Tab S is just better, in every way. The ONLY thing I miss is the S Pen and I wish they would just release all their products with an S Pen, because with their track record, I'm preparing myself to be pissed when in a couple months they announce the Note S (I assume around the time they release the Note 4) [emoji35]

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I agree completely. I will also add that there was a hardware bluetooth issue, because the same bluetooth keyboard that would constantly disconnect on the Note 2014 now works without issue on the Tab S. I had made modifications to my Note and it ran great and battery life was good, but the Tab S is just better, in every way. The ONLY thing I miss is the S Pen and I wish they would just release all their products with an S Pen, because with their track record, I'm preparing myself to be pissed when in a couple months they announce the Note S (I assume around the time they release the Note 4) [emoji35]
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You know you can just buy an s-pen....right?

12MaNy said:
You know you can just buy an s-pen....right?
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It doesn't work like that. The S Pen works with the wacom digitizer which is built into the screen of Note devices. The Tab S doesn't have th3 wacom digitizer so no, the S Pen won't work with it (the one from my Note 3 doesn't work with it for example).

The N10.1-14, Pro's, and Tab S' are the same devices repackaged. They're all using the same SoC's, core UI (TW 4.4 with or w/o M-UX), and h/w components. Exceptions being form factor, LCD vs. AMOLED, USB 3.0 on 12" tablets, finger print reader on the S'. Therefore saying "OMG! What a difference!", either positive or negative, doesn't really jive with reality. I've always been kind of LCD vs. AMOLED agnostic. AMOLED colors tend to be more blown out (which I actually like), blacks and contrast speak for themselves, but white's are always blueish. LCD displays tend to be brighter, colors are less vivid and separated, blacks and contrast weaker, with truer whites. Counting Apple's devices LCD still outsells AMOLED 4:1.
AMOLED sucks battery on whites and kicks butt on darker colors. Most productivity apps have white backgrounds which is definitely going to be a problem for productivity users. As will browsing and using the Tab S as a reader.
As for Samsung's LCD QHD tablet displays, they are the best LCD displays currently available and by no means deficient. To each their own...

BarryH_GEG said:
The N10.1-14, Pro's, and Tab S' are the same devices repackaged. They're all using the same SoC's, core UI (TW 4.4 with or w/o M-UX), and h/w components. Exceptions being form factor, LCD vs. AMOLED, USB 3.0 on 12" tablets, finger print reader on the S'. Therefore saying "OMG! What a difference!", either positive or negative, doesn't really jive with reality. I've always been kind of LCD vs. AMOLED agnostic. AMOLED colors tend to be more blown out (which I actually like), blacks and contrast speak for themselves, but white's are always blueish. LCD displays tend to be brighter, colors are less vivid and separated, blacks and contrast weaker, with truer whites. Counting Apple's devices LCD still outsells AMOLED 4:1.
AMOLED sucks battery on whites and kicks butt on darker colors. Most productivity apps have white backgrounds which is definitely going to be a problem for productivity users. As will browsing and using the Tab S as a reader.
As for Samsung's LCD QHD tablet displays, they are the best LCD displays currently available and by no means deficient. To each their own...
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I've had both, and the difference in battery life is more than a couple hours doing the same tasks. I didn't comment on the snappiness because your right, it's all the same internals however the software is tweaked differently which makes a difference as well.
My tablets are for web browsing and media consumption and for that I usually get by without any lags or jerkiness WITH power saving on. I posted in the battery life thread and you'll notice my even shots have power saving on as I don't really game anymore much less on my tablet. Either way, I've seen real world improvements but I understand your core point.
I also disagree that amoled whites are blueish, my note 3 and tab s have the truest whites of all my devices including my macbook pro to the point where I use them at about 20% brightness indoors, often times even less because over that the whites hurt my eyes. And this also has me thinking if the battery life test you posted was with brightness at 100% as with my tab s I get about 1 hour and 15 minutes per 10% battery while browsing so I'm not sure what they did to get those results.

toyanucci said:
I've had both, and the difference in battery life is more than a couple hours doing the same tasks. I didn't comment on the snappiness because your right, it's all the same internals however the software is tweaked differently which makes a difference as well.
My tablets are for web browsing and media consumption and for that I usually get by without any lags or jerkiness WITH power saving on. I posted in the battery life thread and you'll notice my even shots have power saving on as I don't really game anymore much less on my tablet. Either way, I've seen real world improvements but I understand your core point.
I also disagree that amoled whites are blueish, my note 3 and tab s have the truest whites of all my devices including my macbook pro to the point where I use them at about 20% brightness indoors, often times even less because over that the whites hurt my eyes. And this also has me thinking if the battery life test you posted was with brightness at 100% as with my tab s I get about 1 hour and 15 minutes per 10% battery while browsing so I'm not sure what they did to get those results.
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I didn't post to make anyone with a Tab S like it less. I really like the design, accessories, and larger display on the 10.5. But people can get "deals" on the Pro's and N10.1-14 that makes them worth considering (for some). I'm a 10" fan so have no interest in the 8.4 but a Pro 8.4 can be had at Best Buy for $229 which makes it pretty compelling; especially since it's S-800. Point being there's lots to like about the S' but their release didn't instantly make the Note/Pro's cow dung.
The white point average (closest to 6,500K is better) for the devices we're talking about is:
Note 3 - 7,126
Note 10.1 - 2014 - 6,821
Tab S 10.5 - 6,516
Tab S 8.4 - 6,295
IPad Air - 7,377
So the N10.1-14 does better on whites than all but the 10.5 Tab S and with a much smaller margin the S 8.4.
If you're interested, here are the links showing the detailed results for the Tab S and N10.1-14. There's no question the S' results are better (with the exception of brightness) but, for an LCD display, Samsung did a good job with their QHD panels. But let's face it, people judge displays based on what looks best to them and that's more important than statistics.
N10.1-14 - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7378/samsung-galaxy-note-101-2014-edition-review/3
Tab S' - http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/2

BarryH_GEG said:
The N10.1-14, Pro's, and Tab S' are the same devices repackaged. They're all using the same SoC's, core UI (TW 4.4 with or w/o M-UX), and h/w components. Exceptions being form factor, LCD vs. AMOLED, USB 3.0 on 12" tablets, finger print reader on the S'. Therefore saying "OMG! What a difference!", either positive or negative, doesn't really jive with reality. I've always been kind of LCD vs. AMOLED agnostic. AMOLED colors tend to be more blown out (which I actually like), blacks and contrast speak for themselves, but white's are always blueish. LCD displays tend to be brighter, colors are less vivid and separated, blacks and contrast weaker, with truer whites. Counting Apple's devices LCD still outsells AMOLED 4:1.
AMOLED sucks battery on whites and kicks butt on darker colors. Most productivity apps have white backgrounds which is definitely going to be a problem for productivity users. As will browsing and using the Tab S as a reader.
As for Samsung's LCD QHD tablet displays, they are the best LCD displays currently available and by no means deficient. To each their own...
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Same device indeed but the performance on responsive was on the software is staggering. My note was running a custom room with everything tweaked and it still cannot open a keyboard without a split second lag or two. Everything was always one step behind and never instantaneous. The tab s is the only Android device that made me feel it was on par with the iPad in fluidity and that's high praise.

BarryH_GEG said:
I didn't post to make anyone with a Tab S like it less. I really like the design, accessories, and larger display on the 10.5. But people can get "deals" on the Pro's and N10.1-14 that makes them worth considering (for some). I'm a 10" fan so have no interest in the 8.4 but a Pro 8.4 can be had at Best Buy for $229 which makes it pretty compelling; especially since it's S-800. Point being there's lots to like about the S' but their release didn't instantly make the Note/Pro's cow dung.
The white point average (closest to 6,500K is better) for the devices we're talking about is:
Note 3 - 7,126
Note 10.1 - 2014 - 6,821
Tab S 10.5 - 6,516
Tab S 8.4 - 6,295
IPad Air - 7,377
So the N10.1-14 does better on whites than all but the 10.5 Tab S and with a much smaller margin the S 8.4.
If you're interested, here are the links showing the detailed results for the Tab S and N10.1-14. There's no question the S' results are better (with the exception of brightness) but, for an LCD display, Samsung did a good job with their QHD panels. But let's face it, people judge displays based on what looks best to them and that's more important than statistics.
N10.1-14 - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7378/samsung-galaxy-note-101-2014-edition-review/3
Tab S' - http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/2
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Hey, theres 1 thing I don't like about the Tab S display. In movies human skin has an orange tint which I can't get used to, I'm awaiting a custom kernel that allows synapse color editing as it's the only one that allows for negative values, all other screen editing apps only allow you to add, not minus.

kingofthebraves said:
Same device indeed but the performance on responsive was on the software is staggering.
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You realize there's six pages of counter opinion about performance and lag in this thread with folks coming from Note's and Pro's saying it's noticeably worse on the S? Not challenging you (I'm actually fairly lag tolerant as long as it's not in-app) but either the binning in 5420 got you a chip with super powers or people are having very different experiences.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/disappointed-tab-s-t2803856

BarryH_GEG said:
You realize there's six pages of counter opinion about performance and lag in this thread with folks coming from Note's and Pro's saying it's noticeably worse on the S? Not challenging you (I'm actually fairly lag tolerant as long as it's not in-app) but either the binning in 5420 got you a chip with super powers or people are having very different experiences.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/disappointed-tab-s-t2803856
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Lol to each his own. I setup my androids pretty much the same way so the basis for my comparisons are the same. I'm using the Lte variant BTW running on 800, I'm pretty sure most people are on the WiFi only model, perhaps a reasons for the discrepancy?

toyanucci said:
Hey, theres 1 thing I don't like about the Tab S display. In movies human skin has an orange tint which I can't get used to, I'm awaiting a custom kernel that allows synapse color editing as it's the only one that allows for negative values, all other screen editing apps only allow you to add, not minus.
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That's what you get for watching Jersey Shore ☺.
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BarryH_GEG said:
You realize there's six pages of counter opinion about performance and lag in this thread with folks coming from Note's and Pro's saying it's noticeably worse on the S? Not challenging you (I'm actually fairly lag tolerant as long as it's not in-app) but either the binning in 5420 got you a chip with super powers or people are having very different experiences.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/disappointed-tab-s-t2803856
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No lag on mine.

mitchellvii said:
No lag on mine.
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Aren't you using a third party launcher? Any comparisons I've made are stock<>stock. You shouldn't have to blow away features to get decent (whatever that means ) performance.

BarryH_GEG said:
Aren't you using a third party launcher? Any comparisons I've made are stock<>stock. You shouldn't have to blow away features to get decent (whatever that means ) performance.
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For me it isn't a matter of principal but just do what works. TouchWiz doesn't work so I replaced it with something that does. I consider anything which the average person can install from the Play Store without root to be "stock" and fair for comparison purposes.
I don't buy Samsung for their awesome software. ☺

BarryH_GEG said:
You shouldn't have to blow away features to get decent (whatever that means ) performance.
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Which features do you 'blow away' by loading Nova launcher?

BarryH_GEG said:
You realize there's six pages of counter opinion about performance and lag in this thread with folks coming from Note's and Pro's saying it's noticeably worse on the S? Not challenging you (I'm actually fairly lag tolerant as long as it's not in-app) but either the binning in 5420 got you a chip with super powers or people are having very different experiences.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/disappointed-tab-s-t2803856
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All I needed was root. I deboalted and all was well, same as I did with the note. Others complained of lags there too but I was lag free after debloating there as well. I also prefer touchwiz on my tablet even though I use nova on my note 3. I'll post a review video sometime this week. If it's one thing I wish samsung would do is debloat by default lol.

Freakstyler said:
Which features do you 'blow away' by loading Nova launcher?
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The slow ones ?.

mitchellvii said:
The slow ones ��.
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Launchers change the UI of a device. They don't blow away anything, just a different interface to utilize.
Go to task manager and check the RAM with different launchers and the same things in use, the ram ain't going to change. Bloatware impedes performance and alternate launchers do not remove them so that is why folks want to root. One can also turn off featues like multitask if they don't use them.
TouchWiz is much better than it use to be. I can easily live with this UI on the S.

BarryH_GEG said:
I didn't post to make anyone with a Tab S like it less. I really like the design, accessories, and larger display on the 10.5. But people can get "deals" on the Pro's and N10.1-14 that makes them worth considering (for some). I'm a 10" fan so have no interest in the 8.4 but a Pro 8.4 can be had at Best Buy for $229 which makes it pretty compelling; especially since it's S-800. Point being there's lots to like about the S' but their release didn't instantly make the Note/Pro's cow dung.
The white point average (closest to 6,500K is better) for the devices we're talking about is:
Note 3 - 7,126
Note 10.1 - 2014 - 6,821
Tab S 10.5 - 6,516
Tab S 8.4 - 6,295
IPad Air - 7,377
So the N10.1-14 does better on whites than all but the 10.5 Tab S and with a much smaller margin the S 8.4.
If you're interested, here are the links showing the detailed results for the Tab S and N10.1-14. There's no question the S' results are better (with the exception of brightness) but, for an LCD display, Samsung did a good job with their QHD panels. But let's face it, people judge displays based on what looks best to them and that's more important than statistics.
N10.1-14 - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7378/samsung-galaxy-note-101-2014-edition-review/3
Tab S' - http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/2
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The pro 8.4 was $249 two weeks ago for a single week. They are back at $330 now and were last week as well.