Tmo Nexus one vs At&t Nexus one - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im currently thinking about switching to at&t from tmobile.
One reason is my work gets a 22% discount the at&t vrs 12% at Tmo.
Also with taxes and unlimited everything im paying about a hundred which is kind of rediculous. (Without my discount)
Has anyone switched before and have a little more insight about data and plans between the two networks. I already know tmobile has hspa+. But will i end up paying more at at&t?
I already have someone lined up to trade my tmo nexus for a att nexus. Im just skeptical. And yes im going to pay etf fee even though i dont want too.
Help me out here people.

Att generally is more money for the same service and their coverage is not much better at least where I live
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First of all, don't sign a contract because you're providing your own phone so you don't need to go on contract. Secondly, have you checked to make sure that T-Mobile has 3G in your area? What's your zip code?

How much etf do you have to pay? I dont think its a smart move to switch from tmo to att because of the extra 10% savings. Im pretty sure atts prices are inflated above the 10% difference. If you really wanted to save money then you can just switch your tmobile plan from your unlimited everything. If you switch your texting to google voice you can save $20 a month just from that. You can lower your minutes and start using sipdroid for your calls and have virtually unlimited free calls as long as you have decent data connection or wifi, and you can use your tmobile minutes as a backup.
So if you really wanted to get creative and still have a virtually unlimited plan you can sign up for the 500 minute plan on tmobile for $29.99, and get on the $10 web2go plan (this is the reason alone why i wont upgrade my phone for a long long time). $40 a month, and no contract.

smachine said:
How much etf do you have to pay? I dont think its a smart move to switch from tmo to att because of the extra 10% savings. Im pretty sure atts prices are inflated above the 10% difference. If you really wanted to save money then you can just switch your tmobile plan from your unlimited everything. If you switch your texting to google voice you can save $20 a month just from that. You can lower your minutes and start using sipdroid for your calls and have virtually unlimited free calls as long as you have decent data connection or wifi, and you can use your tmobile minutes as a backup.
So if you really wanted to get creative and still have a virtually unlimited plan you can sign up for the 500 minute plan on tmobile for $29.99, and get on the $10 web2go plan (this is the reason alone why i wont upgrade my phone for a long long time). $40 a month, and no contract.
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2 questions... how do I get on web2go plan. And how do I use gvoice for texting?

pretty sure web2go is one of the old grandfathered plans the only way you have it is if you stuck with your plan and never changed it.
T-mobile just like other carriers play dirty tricks with plans to get their money back from subsidized phones.
i for example recently went the route of buying a used N1 for more than a G2 would have cost me subsidized up front because i'm on a grandfathered G1 data plan so currently i pay 55 dollars a month for 300 min 400 texts and unlimited data. i dont talk or text enough on my phone to justify more so its the cheapest thing for me to do is stick with it. if its not enough for me at some point i can upgrade to the even more whatever base plan without contract because i'm out of contract on my G1 now and it will run me 60 a month for 500 anytime unlimited text and data. had i bought a subed G2 i would have had to pay 80 a month for the same exact plan that is 60 off contract.
from what i have seen ATT is about 20 dollars more a month for the base plan that you would want on a N1 or other similar phone and as i said before in my experience at least in the SF bay area coverage is equal between t-mobile and ATT for the most part, maybe a slight edge to ATT in some places but for the most part the same.
Sprint is the only carrier that i have seen that comes close to the cost of T-mo and even with a subed phone like a EVO 4G your only looking at 70ish a month for a comparable plan but its nice staying off contract because it gives me more options in the not so distance future

jm1999 said:
2 questions... how do I get on web2go plan. And how do I use gvoice for texting?
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I signed up just last week with tmobile and picked the $10 unlimited internet for phone option which is the same as web2go. Log into your tmobile account and go to add services, and there should be $10 unlimited mobile web for phones. Just make sure you do it before tmobile changes to the tiered plans, and set your device as being a dumbphone. Set your apn settings to internet2.voicestream.com and it will be good to go.
For google voice texting you just use the built in google voice application, or the normal contact list on your phone. It will send texts out from your google voice number. I sent one massive text out to all my contacts telling them my google voice number was my new main number. Might seem like a pain telling people a new number but after you do this it will help you out in the long run. You can setup sipdroid for free calls and all incoming and outgoing calls from your google voice number can be made without the use of any minutes if you have data/wifi. I made a step by step guide for that at this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8813244&postcount=18

I went the other way and am never going back to att!
My plan right now costs half of what att used to charge me
go tmo!
Ps: usually the discount only applies to the main line.
on both networks

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Rogers Canada plans (noob looking for some info!)

Hi everyone,
Recently bought a tytn II, haven't bought a plan yet but most likely I will go with rogers...
anyone else using their phone with them? just wondering if they offered up unlimited data plans and how's the $$$$
This is my first phone so Im a total noob to this, the forums been great but I have read that some people get charged unknowingly from roaming charges.. how does this happen? Don't you only get charged if you browse the internet or send/receive email?
not to be rude but there is a rogers website. but unlimited data? hahahaha $65 for 1 GB
so which plan are you using?
right now i am using the 10MB for $5 promo they had going on a while back, but to get just regular data you need to claim to have a samsung a706 (as well for vid calling) as some reps might put u on the new windows mobile data plan which is $15 for 2 megs.
If you can make it happen then by all means get on the normal data plan and Opera Mini 4 mind you minimal browsing should be done regardless but opera gives you more bang for your buck.
If i were you, id go with Fido. Much cheaper plans than Rogers. I currently pay $18 value pack. I get Call display, Voicemail, 1,000 text msg, plus 12 MB internet plan.
Since Fido is under Rogers, you get the 3G network as well.

Data plan help

I'm thinking about buying a used htc tilt on ebay and using it with att, but can I keep my 15 dollar "dumbphone" data plan or do I need to upgrade my plan to the 30 dollar "smartphone" plan? I checked on wireless.att.com and theres not mention of the tilt needing the more expensive-r plan. Any experience from current users would be really useful though.
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I'm thinking about buying a used htc tilt on ebay and using it with att, but can I keep my 15 dollar "dumbphone" data plan or do I need to upgrade my plan to the 30 dollar "smartphone" plan? I checked on wireless.att.com and theres not mention of the tilt needing the more expensive-r plan. Any experience from current users would be really useful though.
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If you sign up for a data plan it will have to be the 30 dollar smartphone plan. There is no way around it.
Not sure about the 8925. I got by with it with my 8525 though with no issues though. Tried the trick with the 8925 and tmobile stopped it saying my phone wasn't compatible with thier data plan. So naturally I upgrade to the $30 a month data plan and turns out Tmobile 3g is the worst in the world. Litterally. You can only use a tmobile branded phone on their 3G. So I'm going back to Atnt in a couple weeks. I'll let you know if it works. I'm gonna hook it up as a razr then switch out the sims.
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Not sure about the 8925. I got by with it with my 8525 though with no issues though. Tried the trick with the 8925 and tmobile stopped it saying my phone wasn't compatible with thier data plan. So naturally I upgrade to the $30 a month data plan and turns out Tmobile 3g is the worst in the world. Litterally. You can only use a tmobile branded phone on their 3G. So I'm going back to Atnt in a couple weeks. I'll let you know if it works. I'm gonna hook it up as a razr then switch out the sims.
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The network will recognize the phone as a Tilt and you will automatically be put on the $30 data plan
The Chenizzle said:
I'm thinking about buying a used htc tilt on ebay and using it with att, but can I keep my 15 dollar "dumbphone" data plan or do I need to upgrade my plan to the 30 dollar "smartphone" plan? I checked on wireless.att.com and theres not mention of the tilt needing the more expensive-r plan. Any experience from current users would be really useful though.
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I am still on MediaMax plan from back in the day. It is a plan they no longer offer that is unlimited data (on the wap network) and 200 Text messages.
Only $20.00 per month. I got grandfathered in before all this new Data Plan nonsense came into play.
Just don't connect to [email protected]
No one at ATT ever told me I had to change it, (I didn't really ask either) and I have spoken with them several times about other phones on my account.
Here we go on the data plan merry go round
Here comes your $15 data plan
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...lan-prices-ends-unlimited-offer-update3-.html

[Q] nexus one+voip in usa?

Hello,
I have a problem to solve, here is the situation:
next week i will go to the usa for about a month. i have an unlocked nexus one and need some data plan to connect and to use voip to call family/friends. do you know if t-mobile data plans (i want to use 3g and i think that n1 works only with t-mobile) will work with voip, or is it blocked completely?
budget: $50/month with no termination fee...
thx for all the help.
There are two versions for different radio bands, one for t-mo one for att. I don't think either provides prepaid data cards.
As evilkorn pointed out, you do need to figure out what radio bands your nexus uses.
Tmobile Radio-
If it's tmobile, then it will be fairly simple to do, but it will cost you $60 a month, with no contract. Tmobile offers two kinds of plans, one with contract, and one without. The one with no contract is called "Even more Plus". For $60 you get 500 minutes, unlimited text and 5GB of data. Here's the link: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1&rateplan=Even-More-Plus-500-Talk-Text-Web
AT&T Radio-
If it's AT&T, it will be tricky. You'll have to get an Ipad plan, which is $30 a month for 2GB and no contract. You then change the APN settings on your nexus to match an Ipad. Here's a link to do that: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=177297ea7cd4781c&hl=en
But to get an Ipad plan, is very tricky. You'll have to use the method suggested here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=928196
Since you aren't from the USA you'll have to go to an AT&T store to buy a SIM, instead of ordering it like they suggest.
Hope this helped and good luck!
thx for answers!
i have got tmobile freq nexus one (so it works here in europe)
shouldnt the data only plan be sufficient? tmobile's Even More Plus Smartphone Unlimited Web & E-mail or Even More Plus webConnect® Overage Free Plan? or i need to have plans with talk minutes which i dont need at all...
It appears you could use one of those (I'm on At&t and not to familiar tmobile plans), but I didn't even think about there being an activation fee. So even with the $39.99 data only plan, you would still have an additional $35 activation fee.
You could try calling tmobile and tell them your only going to be there for a month, and if your lucky they might wave the activation fee. After signing up over the phone (because there is pretty much zero chance they would do this in a store) you could then go pick up a sim in there store.
Let us know how it works out!
T-Mobile has a $40 data only plan as well.

Now that the G2 is fully rooted

I was considering the G2 until of course all the rooting fiascos. But now that it has been permrooted for good, I'm considering picking one up. You can find one for 350ish on craigslist, so I'm thinking about it.
Anyone else?
No thank you. with gingerbread coming out soon. why would anyone not stick with the N1?
Honestly I think gingerbread is going to be a severe disappointment. I think it will be a bunch of bug fixes and maybe one or 2 features that most people won't care about. But that's another discussion.
The only thing keeping me away from the G2 is my uncertainty about a blinking notification. I know that the "ring" around the trackpad lights up, but if it works the same way that it does on stock nexus (meaning one blink in every 15 seconds), I'm gonna be really mad. Other than that I like the phone, I like the styling.
Well I will only be buying AWS nonbranded Tmobile phones like the Nexus so i can take advantage of $10 unlimited data. That $15 difference is $360 in savings over 2 years. G2 isnt worth the price hike for me.
For anyone on the $25 or $30 data, I would suggest getting on the $10 web2go asap before tmobile switches to the tiered plans. All you have to do is go into your account and change your device and pick any dumbphone. Then go into APN settings and put in internet2.voicestream.com
I have still yet to see a phone come out that makes me even consider getting rid of my nexus. Every day at work I have to help friends with less open android devices accomplish things that take mere seconds on this hacker-friendly handset. Sure, there are some phones with slightly better hardware now... but what fun is a phone that doesn't let you tweak it to your heart's content? For me, I will stick with the N1 over the G2.
smachine said:
Well I will only be buying AWS nonbranded Tmobile phones like the Nexus so i can take advantage of $10 unlimited data. That $15 difference is $360 in savings over 2 years. G2 isnt worth the price hike for me.
For anyone on the $25 or $30 data, I would suggest getting on the $10 web2go asap before tmobile switches to the tiered plans. All you have to do is go into your account and change your device and pick any dumbphone. Then go into APN settings and put in internet2.voicestream.com
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Thanks! I just did that. My bill is now 20 dollars lower. Although it was just called Unlimited Web for phones. I hope it's the right one that I chose.
smachine said:
Well I will only be buying AWS nonbranded Tmobile phones like the Nexus so i can take advantage of $10 unlimited data. That $15 difference is $360 in savings over 2 years. G2 isnt worth the price hike for me.
For anyone on the $25 or $30 data, I would suggest getting on the $10 web2go asap before tmobile switches to the tiered plans. All you have to do is go into your account and change your device and pick any dumbphone. Then go into APN settings and put in internet2.voicestream.com
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Doesn't T-mobile eventually send you a message telling you that you're required to upgrade your data plan because they've figured out that you're on a smartphone?

Who is your MVNO?

Not on one of the big 4 here in the USA with your shamu? Since the Nexus 6 is mostly not carrier subsidized, I'm thinking this is a good place to find out what MVNO's people are using to save money If so, please tell us who your with, what plan your on with them, and why your with them!! And anything else you care to share both good and bad...
In the last year I have been on the following MVNO's...
Ting - Sprint
Ting - T-Mobile
Straight talk - T-Mobile
Straight talk - Verizon
Straight talk - AT&T
Google Project Fi
Cricket - AT&T
Page Plus - Verizon
Verizon Prepaid
AT&T Gophone
And have signed up for Harbor Mobile AT&T and Red Pocket Mobile Verizon. Haven't received the Sim's yet for the last 2.. Let me know if you have questions on any of these. Will be happy to report my results
In addition to that, I was in contract with the real big red dollar sucking Verizon and also was on the real big Orange AT&T on a company business plan.
I used to be on ting, then straight talk, then project Fi, then Verizon prepaid, now I'm on post paid since my wife gets a state of California employee discount and California now taxes prepaid. I liked ting and project Fi until I moved up to an area being ruled mostly big red only. I enjoyed project Fi, but had issues when I forced it to roam on Verizon. My phone number would change to a whole different area code!
chapelfreak said:
I used to be on ting, then straight talk, then project Fi, then Verizon prepaid, now I'm on post paid since my wife gets a state of California employee discount and California now taxes prepaid. I liked ting and project Fi until I moved up to an area being ruled mostly big red only. I enjoyed project Fi, but had issues when I forced it to roam on Verizon. My phone number would change to a whole different area code!
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I can say the same for FI. I am still on FI with one of my phones and I like that fact that I can, with a little doing have 1 SIM card that I can make work on all 4 of the big carriers here in the USA in the event of really needing it. I also noticed that when roaming on Verizon that the outbound caller ID was different... Not sure why. I also really like Wifi calling and texting, it works so well. It also works great when traveling internationally and has very good rates. At least in Europe where I have tested it.
I started out on H2O Wireless because it was cheap, but low data cap and slow speeds sent me looking elsewhere. I am now on Straight Talk (AT&T) $45/month 5gb LTE and it's awesome. It was between that and the Verizon ST plan, but Verizon throttles MVNO data speeds, so AT&T won out. Just gotta remember to remove the sim card when I update so I don't get AT&T's stupid app on my phone.
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I started out on H2O Wireless because it was cheap, but low data cap and slow speeds sent me looking elsewhere. I am now on Straight Talk (AT&T) $45/month 5gb LTE and it's awesome. It was between that and the Verizon ST plan, but Verizon throttles MVNO data speeds, so AT&T won out. Just gotta remember to remove the sim card when I update so I don't get AT&T's stupid app on my phone.
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Ha, been there done that with Straight talk.. Your right on!! Did you know that Straight talk now has a 10gb plan for 55$? Pretty cool.
I'm currently on Sprint Framily postpaid- $45 (actually around $52 with taxes) for unlimited data + talk/text with Verizon roaming. Over the years I've used everything from Virgin Mobile, Straight Talk, T-Mobile prepaid $30 5GB data plan, T-Mobile postpaid, MetroPCS, Project Fi and Verizon Prepaid.
I'm on Google's Project Fi. Love everything about it - switching between T-Mobile and Sprint, occasional Google's automatic VPN when connecting to open Wi-Fi, low monthly bill (staying under $35 p/month) with heavy Wi-Fi use, Wi-Fi calling and seamless switching to cellular, etc.
I've used freedompop off and on, great service and you can't beat free
crowsnestitsupport said:
Ha, been there done that with Straight talk.. Your right on!! Did you know that Straight talk now has a 10gb plan for 55$? Pretty cool.
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Woah that sounds like a great plan. I'm currently on Fi, I might just jump to Straight Talk. Now do I go CDMA with VZN or GSM with AT&T..hmmmm.
Harry44 said:
Woah that sounds like a great plan. I'm currently on Fi, I might just jump to Straight Talk. Now do I go CDMA with VZN or GSM with AT&T..hmmmm.
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Yeah!! Its brand new and works great!!! Def go with AT&T. With that you get simultaneous voice and data and uncapped data speeds. With the VZW one, you have no data while on the phone and your speed it capped at 6x6 up and down.
Dopamin3 said:
I'm currently on Sprint Framily postpaid- $45 (actually around $52 with taxes) for unlimited data + talk/text with Verizon roaming. Over the years I've used everything from Virgin Mobile, Straight Talk, T-Mobile prepaid $30 5GB data plan, T-Mobile postpaid, MetroPCS, Project Fi and Verizon Prepaid.
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That would be great except that where I live Sprint coverage lacks a lot Do you get 4G LTE when you roam to Verizon?
reinaldistic said:
I've used freedompop off and on, great service and you can't beat free
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Tell us a bit more about freedom pop.. I was reading some reviews and they looked ugly.. How does it work?
Chahk said:
I'm on Google's Project Fi. Love everything about it - switching between T-Mobile and Sprint, occasional Google's automatic VPN when connecting to open Wi-Fi, low monthly bill (staying under $35 p/month) with heavy Wi-Fi use, Wi-Fi calling and seamless switching to cellular, etc.
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FI is truly great! With root access you can force roam to all USA carriers. If you live where Tmo and Sprint have good coverage and aren't a heavy data user, its a no brainer!!
crowsnestitsupport said:
Tell us a bit more about freedom pop.. I was reading some reviews and they looked ugly.. How does it work?
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it's sprint based so take that as you may.
it's truly free (i haven't been feed at all after activation like 8 months ago ) however for free you only get 500MB data, 500txt and 200 minutes. you will get nickle and dimed at every turn and that's their bussiness model so if you understand the charges is fine.
here is the low down: they say 200 minutes and 500 texts, unlike others with which you can assume some other things you can't here: no voicemail, that's extra, calls are over data through VOIP, infrastructure calling and texting is extra, mms isn't included, that's extra, so on, you get the picture, 200 min 500 text 500 data. that's it.
that said, their fees for "the basics" are pretty reasonable: 7.99 gets you voice-mail, mms, infrastructure, tethering and data roll over. and unlimited minutes+text is only 10.99 so for $19 you get a pretty decent grandparent phone with 500 megs, 2gigs is $20 and 4 gigs is $35. which is sill cheaper than some...
i love using freedompop for my "leftover" devices, i use sprint ($45/mo for unlimited through framily) as my main phone but since I'm a phone geek i like to have extras, so once i upgrade i keep them alive on freedompop, i also have a "free" tablet from sprint that once the contract ended i put on freedompop. great experience so far.
i just realized I sound like a sales person lol but i promise I'm not. (and a sales person wouldn't say nickle and dime)
reinaldistic said:
it's sprint based so take that as you may.
it's truly free (i haven't been feed at all after activation like 8 months ago ) however for free you only get 500MB data, 500txt and 200 minutes. you will get nickle and dimed at every turn and that's their bussiness model so if you understand the charges is fine.
here is the low down: they say 200 minutes and 500 texts, unlike others with which you can assume some other things you can't here: no voicemail, that's extra, calls are over data through VOIP, infrastructure calling and texting is extra, mms isn't included, that's extra, so on, you get the picture, 200 min 500 text 500 data. that's it.
that said, their fees for "the basics" are pretty reasonable: 7.99 gets you voice-mail, mms, infrastructure, tethering and data roll over. and unlimited minutes+text is only 10.99 so for $19 you get a pretty decent grandparent phone with 500 megs, 2gigs is $20 and 4 gigs is $35. which is sill cheaper than some...
i love using freedompop for my "leftover" devices, i use sprint ($45/mo for unlimited through framily) as my main phone but since I'm a phone geek i like to have extras, so once i upgrade i keep them alive on freedompop, i also have a "free" tablet from sprint that once the contract ended i put on freedompop. great experience so far.
i just realized I sound like a sales person lol but i promise I'm not. (and a sales person wouldn't say nickle and dime)
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Good information!! I like it That was the whole point of this thread :good::good:
crowsnestitsupport said:
That would be great except that where I live Sprint coverage lacks a lot Do you get 4G LTE when you roam to Verizon?
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Pretty sure no LTE roaming. Just 3g or 1x. Luckily where I live Sprint has a great LTE footprint.
I am on Metro PCS. It is $60 a month with taxes and fees included for true unlimited data for the phone. No cap and no throttling. It also includes 8gb of hotspot data. It runs on tmobile towers. I have had att and verizon through straight talk, but I really like the fact that I dont have to worry about my data usage anymore.
T-Mobile's $80 unlimited high-speed, 7gb tethering. For a while I was angry with this because when I signed up I was on the $70 unlimited/5gb tethering plan, but for the first couple weeks I was borrowing a phone that I couldn't root (not because it was borrowed, but because the USB connection was effed and couldn't USB tether), so I exceeded the plan and had to change it. And that's when they decided to eliminate the $70 plan and go with the $80 one. But now the same plan is $95, so I'm considering myself lucky. And frankly 7gb tethering suits me better, because I like to play a lot of games and sometimes exceed the 5gb from watching videos for free gold/gems/energy/etc (I keep my SIM in my S4, USB tethered to my computer, with my "main" phone on wifi).
I've thought about switching to MetroPCS. But at this point, with the price increase in T-Mo's plan, I don't want to "risk" switching to save a few bucks because if it doesn't work out it'd cost me more in the end to switch back. I'd probably use Google Project Fi if I had "proper" internet at home, but right now, my phone is my internet. PdaNet was the best $8 I've ever spent.
So can any one please confirm that with the Nexus 6 on Metro PCS... Does WiFi calling and VoLTE both work OK?

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