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Samsung Galaxy S?????

What are your thoughts on Samsung Galaxy S or the Vibrant as it is called any body going to jump from the N1 to the Galaxy S?
I have seen some of the specs although quite impressive I still have a hard time a camera with no flash and Samsungs lack of care for their customers!
What are your thoughts??

Nah, I'm still very happy with my N1, I do have another line which has made me consider getting it for that...but I think my next android phone will have a physical keyboard, front facing camera and dual processor, plus I'm a hardcore HTC fan haha.

I am with TMobile, and I've been Rockin the G1 since it was 1st availible in 08...
I am SUPER excited about purchasing the vibrant the second its availible. (July 21)
I don't mind not having a flash bc I don't have one now. I am however excited to have a zoom on the camera.
If I'm not mistaken, sprints version will have a front facing camera, as well as a sliding keyboard. Now that's Cool. But not having those won't deter me from getting it. This whole time I was waiting till sept so I can get a full discount on the nexus, but F it...I'm glad to Jump on this Vibrant!
But I wonder... I've become so used to flashing ROMs and customizing my rooted G1, are all androids Rootable? Like, eventually will I be flashing ROMS on the vibrant?
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i am loving my N1 and I have to say that this is the BEST android phone that I have dealt with! I have an upgrade available as well and I am thinking of getting it but I know that my N1 will be my "daily".
What makes me angry with Tmo is that they always seem to be the last to jump on the BEST phones available as if Tmo is not campaigning for the cool phones like the EVO, or the Droid X. It is alomost like an after thought that we get the "hand-me-downs".
That is why I think the N1 is for now the best android device available for T-mo.

I agree 100% with you. I wish Tmo was wayyy more aggressive in their pursuit of phones. However they did have the 1st android phone. But still...TMo has always been good to me and their customer srervice is outstanding...but Jeeeezus MAAN! Let's get a decent line up of phones!.
After posting my 1st comment about the vibrant, I started looking around...seems like ppl are having uisssues with gps and lag? Great! .... for real?
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Having seen what happened with the Samsung Galaxy and Behold 2, i wouldnt ever touch a samsung android phone again!
I know alot of android phones get deserted by the manufacturer and there's tons of complaints about people stuck on 1.5 or 1.6, but what samsung did with those two phones is horrible.
For the behold 2 they didnt publish complete source code, and abandoned major updates very quickly. They said the behold 2 cant handle 2.1, when the Hero - the same hardware (MSM720x) and with less ram has just had a 2.1 update.
The Galaxy was advertised with many features it never actually had (android/software based), and it got so bad that O2 germany allowed anyone who purchased a galaxy on contract to send it back for a full refund, and this was 6 to 9 months after it was released on their network lol.
This isnt the usual 'why didnt HTC update my G1 to froyo' type of rant. Samsung abandoned these two phones within about 6 months of launch and purposly released just enough source code to cover their asses. Not impressed at all

Galaxy s is good. But I'm waiting for something that will leap frog it.
In particular, I want a screen with higher resolution. I'm not used to apple having something better than me =)

DarkDvr said:
Galaxy s is good. But I'm waiting for something that will leap frog it.
In particular, I want a screen with higher resolution. I'm not used to apple having something better than me =)
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The new screen on the Galaxy S is actually the same resolution as the new iPhone...

The only reason I have considered getting the vibrant is that I am hoping it will get rid of my edge/3g issues. Sometimes I get so pissed at my nexus, it randomly switches to edge, then pandora stops, then I have to lock it on WCDMA only, but sometimes that doesnt work lol.

I'll be getting one for the Wife who is using a MT3G
Me I'm happy with my N1, but will play around with it once she gets it

gthmcty1 said:
The new screen on the Galaxy S is actually the same resolution as the new iPhone...
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No.
Galaxy S is the good old 480 x 800 pixels
iPhone 4 is 640 by 960.
Get your facts straight

DarkDvr said:
No.
Galaxy S is the good old 480 x 800 pixels
iPhone 4 is 640 by 960.
Get your facts straight
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Thank you for correcting me, last thing I want to do is give the wrong information "intentionally"

dashed said:
The only reason I have considered getting the vibrant is that I am hoping it will get rid of my edge/3g issues. Sometimes I get so pissed at my nexus, it randomly switches to edge, then pandora stops, then I have to lock it on WCDMA only, but sometimes that doesnt work lol.
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^ excellent real world experience there...
i won't buy another n1 because of the antennae issues, same with the iphone 4. it's a stupid, stupid design problem, just like the n1 has a really stupid problem with connectivity.
OFF CONTRACT- get whatever you want. i really don't understand people waiting for an 'upgrade' on contract, you can vote with your money or just play along with the rest of the sheeple.
the next android device i'll buy will be:
1 another g1, it's hard to beat for the craigslist prices now
2 whatever full querty, physical keyboard, dual processor, 1gb of ram, dual flash, OFF CONTRACT GSM phone comes out from htc.
i'll lean towards #1 since #2 might take another year or so.

gthmcty1 said:
What are your thoughts on Samsung Galaxy S or the Vibrant as it is called any body going to jump from the N1 to the Galaxy S?
I have seen some of the specs although quite impressive I still have a hard time a camera with no flash and Samsungs lack of care for their customers!
What are your thoughts??
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Another thread for you to look at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717161

I don't know enough about developing roms to know for certain, but if this thing gets released on all the major carriers in the US....couldn't we just flash roms onto any of the devices and flash our service providers radios? If thats the case (which it may or may not be, not sure how the Sprint version may differ because of the hardware keyboard and I think Verizon's version may have an LED flash) then I am going to buy one for sure. There may be a lot of support for these if they really take off and sell well. Either way I am upset with my N1's touchscreen issues and 3G issues as well, and will be replacing it as soon as a supported worthy device comes along. Its a shame too cus I love my N1 and what it stands for, its gonna suck to go back to an old school carrier locked down device.

big99gt said:
I don't know enough about developing roms to know for certain, but if this thing gets released on all the major carriers in the US....couldn't we just flash roms onto any of the devices and flash our service providers radios? If thats the case (which it may or may not be, not sure how the Sprint version may differ because of the hardware keyboard and I think Verizon's version may have an LED flash) then I am going to buy one for sure. There may be a lot of support for these if they really take off and sell well. Either way I am upset with my N1's touchscreen issues and 3G issues as well, and will be replacing it as soon as a supported worthy device comes along. Its a shame too cus I love my N1 and what it stands for, its gonna suck to go back to an old school carrier locked down device.
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CDMA and GSM are different technologies, and all carriers use different bands. Short answer is no.

He is saying take the ATT galaxy and flash that radio to the ATT nexus.
Still the answer is no cause a radio has to be made specifically for the nexus to work.

No what I actually meant was if it was possible to just make a sort of generic rom that could be flashed to any of the 3 similar devices...Captivate, Fascinate,and Vibrant...and then flash a specific radio image for your own carrier. Like if I flashed the rom then flashed an AT&T radio to go with it. But after having my Captivate and reading about other users flashing Vibrant roms.....my idea is a bust, there are too many physical and software differences between devices. But we have a ClockworkMod recovery now and the Cyanogen team has a Captivate and they have started work already so its looking like we'll have some new eye candy and functionality soon.

[Q] Rogers Gets Some New Phones.

Not sure if anyone has checked the Rogers Website lately but they have some really awesome phones. In fact I think they had beat out Bell in terms of the LTE version of the Galaxy S II. It has a different form factor than the Bell Galaxy S II in that it doesn't have the physical home button. Now I still have to check if I'm eligible for an upgrade but I'm stuck between two of these phones Rogers is offering. The Moto Razr has some really nice specs., mainly screen resolution being Amoled is much higher than the Galaxy S II. Other differences are apparent one being a tad slower in the CPU, and not being LTE. I'm not in the Toronto or Ottawa area so I don't think LTE is here in my area as of yet so LTE isn't really that important. Aside from the differences, I'm kinda stuck between the two phones. I like the Moto's design it's different thin nicer screen etc. The Samsung is also nice in that it's faster and of course a great backing from XDA developers. So what do you guys think, which would you choose having reviewed the phones specs?

gdmuscle said:
Not sure if anyone has checked the Rogers Website lately but they have some really awesome phones. In fact I think they had beat out Bell in terms of the LTE version of the Galaxy S II. It has a different form factor than the Bell Galaxy S II in that it doesn't have the physical home button. Now I still have to check if I'm eligible for an upgrade but I'm stuck between two of these phones Rogers is offering. The Moto Razr has some really nice specs., mainly screen resolution being Amoled is much higher than the Galaxy S II. Other differences are apparent one being a tad slower in the CPU, and not being LTE. I'm not in the Toronto or Ottawa area so I don't think LTE is here in my area as of yet so LTE isn't really that important. Aside from the differences, I'm kinda stuck between the two phones. I like the Moto's design it's different thin nicer screen etc. The Samsung is also nice in that it's faster and of course a great backing from XDA developers. So what do you guys think, which would you choose having reviewed the phones specs?
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If you upgraded last year with the captivate then I don't think you are eligible for an upgrade yet. I'm hanging on to my captivate till next year, as it still does everything I want it too. If I was going to upgrade I would get the Galaxy S II.
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this section is for questions about the captivate....NOT about which phone you should get next.
BE DECISIVE.
get a coin, heads sgs2, tails moto. now BEFORE you flip it search your feelings, there is one side you'll be hoping for. get that phone.

How important is a keyboard to you?

I'd like to know how important having a keyboard is to you guys. I'd like to buy a new phone soon and I'm picking between this phone, the Galaxy Nexus, and waiting for a Droid 4. The thing is, I use AT&T which none of these phones are available for. The Droid 4 is said to come with GSM bands, and I know the D3 does, so I can work with that. My question is whether it's worth giving up the Droids' keyboards for the Galaxy Nexus' superior specs.
P.S. I'm coming from a 4 year old HTC Kaiser, so anything is an upgrade.

I love my keyboard. I don't know what I would do if I didn't have one. I definitely would sacrifice a little on the processor and ram to have a keyboard phone,
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I chose the droid 3 specifically because of the keyboard. That and the fact that it needed to be new and android

My droid 3 was the best phone I ever used, the keyboard is amazing. But the phone sometimes lagged with only 512mb or ram, the boot loader is not unlocked, other than that stuff it is blazing! I would suggest waiting for the droid 4 if you love qwerty keyboards that much but go for the nexus if you cant wait for a phone and want specs now.

ourtut said:
My droid 3 was the best phone I ever used, the keyboard is amazing. But the phone sometimes lagged with only 512mb or ram, the boot loader is not unlocked, other than that stuff it is blazing! I would suggest waiting for the droid 4 if you love qwerty keyboards that much but go for the nexus if you cant wait for a phone and want specs now.
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The thing is, I have AT&T, not Verizon. I don't know if the Nexus will ever come to AT&T and the Droid 4 may or may not have GSM bands.

I always go for the best phone available with keyboard. My XT860, which is the nearly identical cousin of the Droid 3 (except 4G), unlocked, works with my AT&T sim card when I travel in U.S. might be worth your considering.
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Thank you, that's very useful to know. I hope it's possible to do the same with the Droid 4, because this phone will become obsolete when that comes out.

My advice is not to get the Verizon version as it is a pain to get unlocked for AT&T but the 860. But other then that yes this is a good phone. If Hash can get the kinks worked out for ICS (I know he can), then it will be an amazing phone. It is still new enough hardware wise it isn't a big deal.
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You can get unlocked gsm nexus online. It means you pay full price instead of using a carrier upgrade. Check out www.negrielectronics.com (I'm in no way affaliated, I just know they have gsm nexus)
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The physical keyboard is really a person preference thing. Generally speaking, the recent phones that have physical keyboards are usually slightly lacking in other departments like screen size/quality and/or RAM. What I'm getting at is having a physical keyboard is usually a trade off, but those of us that are willing to make that trade will swear by them because we greatly dislike having only a virtual keyboard.
The advice mentioned earlier about getting a non-Verizon version is sound advice. It is my understanding that Verizon's GSM capable phones are locked for other US GSM carriers. You could probably avoid a lot of headaches by not getting a Verizon phone if you don't plan on using them as your carrier.

But I thought this would remedy all my GSM-related needs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20634546

There is that hack to get At&t working on the Verizon Droid 3 and if you are comfortable doing it then go ahead. It will require rooting and unlocking.
Otherwise you could look at getting the international XT860 since it will work on At&t out of the box. You could probably grab a Canadian one off ebay and to pop in your At&t SIM and not have to do anything else.
But if you don't mind doing that hack, the US XT862 is getting more dev attention it seems so it may be a better investment.

I'm using my Verizon D3 (xt862) on T-Mobile, which only allows me to use Edge. The process to hack it to use GSM isn't hard, and it's pretty reliable still, but does require unlocking the phone through Verizon. I've heard a ton of problems coming from people who think they can get it to work using paid for unlock codes, so I'd advise being sure you can get the VZW unlock code from the source.
This phone is compatible with AT&T 3G bands, so if RAM isn't too big an issue (works fine with 512 MB IMHO), then this phone works great. I would argue that the D4 coming out won't make this phone outdated unless it comes stock with ICS. That would mean it would get a lot more developer attention probably, but wouldn't necessarily make me switch right away
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Without a doubt, i'd go with a keyboard. I picked this phone specifically because of that.

ChocolateShein said:
I'd like to know how important having a keyboard is to you guys. I'd like to buy a new phone soon and I'm picking between this phone, the Galaxy Nexus, and waiting for a Droid 4. The thing is, I use AT&T which none of these phones are available for. The Droid 4 is said to come with GSM bands, and I know the D3 does, so I can work with that. My question is whether it's worth giving up the Droids' keyboards for the Galaxy Nexus' superior specs.
P.S. I'm coming from a 4 year old HTC Kaiser, so anything is an upgrade.
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i got fat fingers soo a keyboard will be a must for me since i do heavy messaging with my phones, but bear in mind the Nexus do have a larger screen and there are keyboard apps that give a wide selection of layout for data entry, i dont know haha but i guess i am milestone used since the day when droid 1 came out, soo i have been buying every droid they ever released. i have a droid 1, 2, 3 now , i am waiting for the droid 4, but i like keyboard, cuz it feels better to type with a hardware keyboard, rather then poking at a screen.
if u are still iffy about the galaxy nexus then i'd say u wait a bit longer, new year they have to have new phones to be released

Keyboards are amazing, I have all Droid phones with keyboards (Milestone 1, Milestone 2 and finally Droid 3) and it`s impossible for me to buy a phone without HW keyboard anymore

keyboard is the major reason for me buying xt860

I'll be the dissenter. I lived for a couple of years with a virtual keyboard only and I am fine with that. I chose the D3 because I wanted a stable 3G phone, I wanted Moto because my house is in a weak cell area for Verizon and Moto has better radios, and the world phone capability I felt was a good idea for me - we are planning to do some travel in the next year and a half.
Ok, that said, once I tried the keyboard, I loved it. The original plan was just to ignore the hardware keyboard, but now I almost always use it.

I can't stand using a virtual keyboard, I am always hitting a wrong key. The Droid 3 physical keyboard is great and is a must in my book!

For me, it's the deciding factor in purchasing an Android phone. I waited and watched for the Droid 3's five-row keyboard as the first satisfactory upgrade from my HTC Dream.
My password contains numbers, so having to hit all those extra shifts on my iPod Touch poops me to tears. That and my continuous fat-fingering on the on-screen keyboard. I can use my fingernails on my Milestone 3's keyboard quite happily, with nary a mistake.

[Q] Buying advice needed

Hi everyone
I have been considering buying the Motorola droid 3 for some time now and wanted the actual users feedback weather to buy it or not?
I want a qwerty android phone with a dual core.
All your Inputs would be welcome.
Thank you
Anand

What do you want to know? I don't know about prices/availability over there but you might also get the droid 4 instead if possible.
As for droid 3, for me:
Pro's:
- best qwerty I've used
- qwerty + android
- dual core
- looks
Cons:
- screen is "good" but certainly not up there with the best
- locked bootloader
- Droid 4 release

Well i am using a galaxy sl at the moment
What I miss the most is the lack of a qwerty keypad. Dual core and the stock of roms etc really make it better.
The droid 4 is not available here : ( needless to say not even the droid 3....
Motorola here has not launched any of these models here
I want a really good qwerty handset keeping the most modern hardware possible Both the droid options would have to be imported..here

Well if you want QWERTY i say get the droid3/4.
You could import them from negri electronics, thats what I did.
Just depends whether you wanna pay the extra ~$100 for the droid 4

I love this phone. The only advice I have is to avoid buying a Verizon XT862 as it seems a lot of users out there are having issues unlocking them due to Verizon meddling with the unlock codes.
If you decide on the D3, go for an XT860 as it's basically identical but not a hassle to unlock.

Rick#2 said:
I love this phone. The only advice I have is to avoid buying a Verizon XT862 as it seems a lot of users out there are having issues unlocking them due to Verizon meddling with the unlock codes.
If you decide on the D3, go for an XT860 as it's basically identical but not a hassle to unlock.
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That's why you buy the verizon XT862 unlocked version from negri electronics

I will keep the Xt 862 in mind when buying..
I wanted to know the problems with the device specifically and problem which is pointed out with the display?
What is wrong with the display?
I wanted to know how it compares to my Samsung galaxy sl which is still single core but the other stuff??
How is the xda support for this device like the custom roms etc etc?

abehrani said:
I will keep the Xt 862 in mind when buying..
I wanted to know the problems with the device specifically and problem which is pointed out with the display?
What is wrong with the display?
I wanted to know how it compares to my Samsung galaxy sl which is still single core but the other stuff??
How is the xda support for this device like the custom roms etc etc?
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Nothing is "wrong" with the display. It's just not an improvement over a galaxy S.
It's higher RES but shadows/dark are worse than galaxy S and when you look real close you can see a bit of grain because of pentile.
But unless you're a display-freak its OK. I'd rather have the droid 3 than galaxy S2 because of its QWERTY

abehrani said:
I will keep the Xt 862 in mind when buying..
I wanted to know the problems with the device specifically and problem which is pointed out with the display?
What is wrong with the display?
I wanted to know how it compares to my Samsung galaxy sl which is still single core but the other stuff??
How is the xda support for this device like the custom roms etc etc?
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I would not say there is a "problem" or "wrong with the display", probably there are better...

DoubleYouPee said:
What do you want to know? I don't know about prices/availability over there but you might also get the droid 4 instead if possible.
As for droid 3, for me:
Pro's:
- best qwerty I've used
- qwerty + android
- dual core
- looks
Cons:
- screen is "good" but certainly not up there with the best
- locked bootloader
- Droid 4 release
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If Price is a factor add the following
--Pro's: VERY CHEAP or even free
What it boils down to to me is if you want a QWERTY slider Android phone, the Droid series is the only way to go. If you want the latest and greatest and/or have to have/want 4G and are willing to pay for it, get the Droid 4. If you are wanting cheap and don't care about or are willing to forgo 4g, then get the Droid 3.
I paid $50 for my droid 3 with contract renewal in Jan and my Wife's was free with her contract renewal in Feb (and came with the dock and car dock thrown in free too). The OP mentions "not available here" but where is "here"? The contract renewal probably doesn't apply I guess - but the Droid 3 will be getting dumped for cheap until supplies run out and its a great phone. Particularly if you are like me and upgrading from a Droid 1.

The only downside I have experienced was a lack of LTE. Battery life and performance are excellent.
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Would you recommend the Droid 3?

I recently bought an HTC Desire Z but was given the T-mobile model which doesn't suppport 850Mhz 3G, which is what my local network runs. The eBay seller has a Droid 3 XT883 that he can exchange my HTC for, would you recommend your Droid?
I really like the QWERTY keyboard on the HTC but there seems to be less in the way of ROMs for the Droid. Any other models you can suggest?

ashok_fernandez said:
I recently bought an HTC Desire Z but was given the T-mobile model which doesn't suppport 850Mhz 3G, which is what my local network runs. The eBay seller has a Droid 3 XT883 that he can exchange my HTC for, would you recommend your Droid?
I really like the QWERTY keyboard on the HTC but there seems to be less in the way of ROMs for the Droid. Any other models you can suggest?
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Its not a bad device, its got a solid cpu and ram which is still pretty speedy, the keyboard is one of the best available ( besides the droid 4's ), but in terms of roms and dev support its almost dead. They devs still around are still working very hard but sometimes a lot of things are outdated , and if you get brick it can be hard with limited support.

It is quite durable and reliable, easy to root as well, once hash develops the JB ROM it'll be a solid phone. I use mine day to day, on an ICS ROM, and it works well. However, doesn't mean I won't buy the fighter once is out, due to the fact that its a bit old. But I would recommend it.
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Never even approach to this phone. It is the worst smartphone I have ever not only owned, but even held in my hand. This phone has managed to disappoint me not even in Motorola, but in whole Android. I'm pulling the thread to get brand new flagship on WP8 - thankfully we will never see WP8 on Motos. F..k Moto, damn droid!

the biggest pro to this phone, the keyboard, sucks for me. i've had 2 now and both have had problems with double pressing keys and some keys (particularly the question mark) not wanting to register. plus there's very little support. stay away
edit: on the pro side i can use it to open my beer bottles because of the metal bezel

DROID 3 - good specs, terrible support/updates. biggest drawback at the moment is the locked bootloader. i'm currently trying to decide whether to keep it (hoping we can actually get an OS update) or sell it.
if you're looking for the QWERTY keyboard and full 3G band support, have a look at the Xperia Pro mk16a. It's a good piece of equipment already running Jelly Bean.

Droid 3 could be good for you
If the following apply to you, the Droid 3 is a great phone:
1. You are OK with not having the latest and greatest version of Android
2. You don't mind rooting
3. 3G rather than 4G is OK for your purposes
Number two kind of applies to all Verizon Android phones in my book. They are so incredibly full of crapware as they come from Verizon that the hardware seems basically crippled by it. However rooting it and installing Titanium backup and then freezing all the crapware so it can't run transforms the phone. Personally I don't much care if I ever get ICS or JB on it. Once de-crapified the version it has is fine in my book. Then again my needs are probably less demanding than others. For me my phone is just a glorified PDA for getting my email, providing appointment notifications and storing my contacts. I use Touchdown for those things and that is going to be pretty much the same no matter what phone I use it on.

The speakerphone is the best I've had so far, very clear sound. The camera is above par as well, crisp and little grain, certainly better than my Atrix.

Absolutely