[Q] Rogers Gets Some New Phones. - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Not sure if anyone has checked the Rogers Website lately but they have some really awesome phones. In fact I think they had beat out Bell in terms of the LTE version of the Galaxy S II. It has a different form factor than the Bell Galaxy S II in that it doesn't have the physical home button. Now I still have to check if I'm eligible for an upgrade but I'm stuck between two of these phones Rogers is offering. The Moto Razr has some really nice specs., mainly screen resolution being Amoled is much higher than the Galaxy S II. Other differences are apparent one being a tad slower in the CPU, and not being LTE. I'm not in the Toronto or Ottawa area so I don't think LTE is here in my area as of yet so LTE isn't really that important. Aside from the differences, I'm kinda stuck between the two phones. I like the Moto's design it's different thin nicer screen etc. The Samsung is also nice in that it's faster and of course a great backing from XDA developers. So what do you guys think, which would you choose having reviewed the phones specs?

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Not sure if anyone has checked the Rogers Website lately but they have some really awesome phones. In fact I think they had beat out Bell in terms of the LTE version of the Galaxy S II. It has a different form factor than the Bell Galaxy S II in that it doesn't have the physical home button. Now I still have to check if I'm eligible for an upgrade but I'm stuck between two of these phones Rogers is offering. The Moto Razr has some really nice specs., mainly screen resolution being Amoled is much higher than the Galaxy S II. Other differences are apparent one being a tad slower in the CPU, and not being LTE. I'm not in the Toronto or Ottawa area so I don't think LTE is here in my area as of yet so LTE isn't really that important. Aside from the differences, I'm kinda stuck between the two phones. I like the Moto's design it's different thin nicer screen etc. The Samsung is also nice in that it's faster and of course a great backing from XDA developers. So what do you guys think, which would you choose having reviewed the phones specs?
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If you upgraded last year with the captivate then I don't think you are eligible for an upgrade yet. I'm hanging on to my captivate till next year, as it still does everything I want it too. If I was going to upgrade I would get the Galaxy S II.
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this section is for questions about the captivate....NOT about which phone you should get next.
BE DECISIVE.
get a coin, heads sgs2, tails moto. now BEFORE you flip it search your feelings, there is one side you'll be hoping for. get that phone.

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Samsung Galaxy S?????

What are your thoughts on Samsung Galaxy S or the Vibrant as it is called any body going to jump from the N1 to the Galaxy S?
I have seen some of the specs although quite impressive I still have a hard time a camera with no flash and Samsungs lack of care for their customers!
What are your thoughts??
Nah, I'm still very happy with my N1, I do have another line which has made me consider getting it for that...but I think my next android phone will have a physical keyboard, front facing camera and dual processor, plus I'm a hardcore HTC fan haha.
I am with TMobile, and I've been Rockin the G1 since it was 1st availible in 08...
I am SUPER excited about purchasing the vibrant the second its availible. (July 21)
I don't mind not having a flash bc I don't have one now. I am however excited to have a zoom on the camera.
If I'm not mistaken, sprints version will have a front facing camera, as well as a sliding keyboard. Now that's Cool. But not having those won't deter me from getting it. This whole time I was waiting till sept so I can get a full discount on the nexus, but F it...I'm glad to Jump on this Vibrant!
But I wonder... I've become so used to flashing ROMs and customizing my rooted G1, are all androids Rootable? Like, eventually will I be flashing ROMS on the vibrant?
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i am loving my N1 and I have to say that this is the BEST android phone that I have dealt with! I have an upgrade available as well and I am thinking of getting it but I know that my N1 will be my "daily".
What makes me angry with Tmo is that they always seem to be the last to jump on the BEST phones available as if Tmo is not campaigning for the cool phones like the EVO, or the Droid X. It is alomost like an after thought that we get the "hand-me-downs".
That is why I think the N1 is for now the best android device available for T-mo.
I agree 100% with you. I wish Tmo was wayyy more aggressive in their pursuit of phones. However they did have the 1st android phone. But still...TMo has always been good to me and their customer srervice is outstanding...but Jeeeezus MAAN! Let's get a decent line up of phones!.
After posting my 1st comment about the vibrant, I started looking around...seems like ppl are having uisssues with gps and lag? Great! .... for real?
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Having seen what happened with the Samsung Galaxy and Behold 2, i wouldnt ever touch a samsung android phone again!
I know alot of android phones get deserted by the manufacturer and there's tons of complaints about people stuck on 1.5 or 1.6, but what samsung did with those two phones is horrible.
For the behold 2 they didnt publish complete source code, and abandoned major updates very quickly. They said the behold 2 cant handle 2.1, when the Hero - the same hardware (MSM720x) and with less ram has just had a 2.1 update.
The Galaxy was advertised with many features it never actually had (android/software based), and it got so bad that O2 germany allowed anyone who purchased a galaxy on contract to send it back for a full refund, and this was 6 to 9 months after it was released on their network lol.
This isnt the usual 'why didnt HTC update my G1 to froyo' type of rant. Samsung abandoned these two phones within about 6 months of launch and purposly released just enough source code to cover their asses. Not impressed at all
Galaxy s is good. But I'm waiting for something that will leap frog it.
In particular, I want a screen with higher resolution. I'm not used to apple having something better than me =)
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Galaxy s is good. But I'm waiting for something that will leap frog it.
In particular, I want a screen with higher resolution. I'm not used to apple having something better than me =)
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The new screen on the Galaxy S is actually the same resolution as the new iPhone...
The only reason I have considered getting the vibrant is that I am hoping it will get rid of my edge/3g issues. Sometimes I get so pissed at my nexus, it randomly switches to edge, then pandora stops, then I have to lock it on WCDMA only, but sometimes that doesnt work lol.
I'll be getting one for the Wife who is using a MT3G
Me I'm happy with my N1, but will play around with it once she gets it
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The new screen on the Galaxy S is actually the same resolution as the new iPhone...
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No.
Galaxy S is the good old 480 x 800 pixels
iPhone 4 is 640 by 960.
Get your facts straight
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No.
Galaxy S is the good old 480 x 800 pixels
iPhone 4 is 640 by 960.
Get your facts straight
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Thank you for correcting me, last thing I want to do is give the wrong information "intentionally"
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The only reason I have considered getting the vibrant is that I am hoping it will get rid of my edge/3g issues. Sometimes I get so pissed at my nexus, it randomly switches to edge, then pandora stops, then I have to lock it on WCDMA only, but sometimes that doesnt work lol.
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^ excellent real world experience there...
i won't buy another n1 because of the antennae issues, same with the iphone 4. it's a stupid, stupid design problem, just like the n1 has a really stupid problem with connectivity.
OFF CONTRACT- get whatever you want. i really don't understand people waiting for an 'upgrade' on contract, you can vote with your money or just play along with the rest of the sheeple.
the next android device i'll buy will be:
1 another g1, it's hard to beat for the craigslist prices now
2 whatever full querty, physical keyboard, dual processor, 1gb of ram, dual flash, OFF CONTRACT GSM phone comes out from htc.
i'll lean towards #1 since #2 might take another year or so.
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What are your thoughts on Samsung Galaxy S or the Vibrant as it is called any body going to jump from the N1 to the Galaxy S?
I have seen some of the specs although quite impressive I still have a hard time a camera with no flash and Samsungs lack of care for their customers!
What are your thoughts??
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Another thread for you to look at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717161
I don't know enough about developing roms to know for certain, but if this thing gets released on all the major carriers in the US....couldn't we just flash roms onto any of the devices and flash our service providers radios? If thats the case (which it may or may not be, not sure how the Sprint version may differ because of the hardware keyboard and I think Verizon's version may have an LED flash) then I am going to buy one for sure. There may be a lot of support for these if they really take off and sell well. Either way I am upset with my N1's touchscreen issues and 3G issues as well, and will be replacing it as soon as a supported worthy device comes along. Its a shame too cus I love my N1 and what it stands for, its gonna suck to go back to an old school carrier locked down device.
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I don't know enough about developing roms to know for certain, but if this thing gets released on all the major carriers in the US....couldn't we just flash roms onto any of the devices and flash our service providers radios? If thats the case (which it may or may not be, not sure how the Sprint version may differ because of the hardware keyboard and I think Verizon's version may have an LED flash) then I am going to buy one for sure. There may be a lot of support for these if they really take off and sell well. Either way I am upset with my N1's touchscreen issues and 3G issues as well, and will be replacing it as soon as a supported worthy device comes along. Its a shame too cus I love my N1 and what it stands for, its gonna suck to go back to an old school carrier locked down device.
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CDMA and GSM are different technologies, and all carriers use different bands. Short answer is no.
He is saying take the ATT galaxy and flash that radio to the ATT nexus.
Still the answer is no cause a radio has to be made specifically for the nexus to work.
No what I actually meant was if it was possible to just make a sort of generic rom that could be flashed to any of the 3 similar devices...Captivate, Fascinate,and Vibrant...and then flash a specific radio image for your own carrier. Like if I flashed the rom then flashed an AT&T radio to go with it. But after having my Captivate and reading about other users flashing Vibrant roms.....my idea is a bust, there are too many physical and software differences between devices. But we have a ClockworkMod recovery now and the Cyanogen team has a Captivate and they have started work already so its looking like we'll have some new eye candy and functionality soon.

Should i Sell My mIlestone

Hey guys quick quetion here, i got an offer to sell my milestone for 400$ or Trade it for a blackberry 9700 + blackberry 9000, should i sell it? and with the 400$ i can buy a Galaxy S or some other device? whats your input?
I would sell the Milestone and get the Milestone 2. Try using the Galaxy S for awhile (not just a store demo), and if you can stand its pentile matrix arrangement, then go for it. It's very fast and has an extremely accurate and responsive touchscreen. However, its display isn't for everyone. The real test is how your eyes handle reading small/medium sized text on it at length.
With the Milestone 2, you wouldn't have any of these issues, though I can't imagine that you could get one for anywhere near $400 when it is released.
One other phone to consider is the Desire (the S-LCD version).
whats the S-LCD?? i think ill try the bell Vibrant looks cool with the front facing camera
Older Desires used AMOLED, a terrible version.
Since you're in Canada, then the Telus version uses Sony's S-LCD, a display comparable to the iP4 (lower res, of course) and the Milestone.
I suggest that you buy the Bell Vibrant from Best Buy or Futureshop, so that you have the option to return it if you find small text unbearable, particularly since you're coming from a great LCD with very high DPI and sharp text.
Sell it and wait for the Motorola Milestone Pro
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Sell it and wait for the Motorola Milestone Pro
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lol got the The Galaxy S, almost bricked it and by luck restored it back to normal,very happy with it though, no lag nicer screen, will miss they keyboard though : D but swype is reallyyy nice
Bit late but I wouldn't have bought a SGS. Samsung have shown such disregard for the users with such appalling support and buggy software. I'll never buy a Samsung product again.
What I want to ask about here is the possibility of a 'Milestone Pro'. Motorola have refused to confirm its existence and given that we didn't see a GSM version of the Droid X I'm wondering if we'll definitely see a GSM Droid Pro.
(I know it's CDMA/GSM but with Verizon controlling things it'll be relatively hard to get one only for unlocked GSM use and I _think_ that using GSM the phone will always think it is roaming)

[Q] Vivid/Skyrocket/Nitro

So I am Unlimited AT&T legacy customer that just went out and baught the HTC Vivid. I baught the Vivid for a couple reasons.
-Upgrade was advailabl a couple months ago. I wanted to lock in my Unlimited Plan before they start deploying LTE in my area. I wanted one the Dual Core, 4.5" screen, LTE phones.
-The display look much sharper sitting next to Skyrocket in the store. Looking at the AT&T Widgets that were the same on both phones. You can really tell the sharpness of the Vivid's screen in comparisance.
-Build quality was more "Solid." Weight was not a defining issue for me.
-I baught a first generation Captivate. So I got burned by the GPS issue. So the Samsung Skyrocket was going to have to be perfect.
-The Nexus is not going to come out for AT&T anytime soon, I think.
-I did not relize that the LG Optimas existed and is coming to AT&T as the Nitro
I am looking for some feed back on why other folks baught the HTC Vivid? Is HTC a solid company when it comes to updating? Do folks have high hopes, looking forward to, Sense 4.0 and ICS? Do any folks have any experince with LG? Did I make the wrong choice now that the LG Optimas is coming to AT&T as the Nitro? The last, and most important, do folks see a solid group of XDA Developers doing their magic on the HTC Vivid?
Now when I got burned with the purchase of the early build Samsung Captivate, and it's horrible GPS. The only thing that made the purchase worth it was the XDA Developers Community and all the effort they put in to it. So in the end I am looking to see which of the LTE, 4.5", Dual Core phones is going to get the most XDA Development, and be a good phone.
Thanks for any responses/opinion
As far as dev support, the Skyrocket has real root, and can run TMo S II ROMs already.
LG has a worse record if possible than Samsung for Android updates. Plus, they don't have much of a following. The build quality is great, but check out the Ghost Town of the Thrill forum. That phone came out in September, its already been passed over by all the dev support.
If you want high end android phone with dev support and don't mind losing LTE the original Galaxy S II is the best phone on ATT. Its almost identicle to the international version. There were ROMs for this phone within 24 hours because all the work on the i9100 was not lost. The first phone on att with ICS will probably be that phone. I would not be surprised if we have ICS before (if at all) att has a subsidized Galaxy Nexus.
I too came from the captivate. I never had the GPS woes everyone else complained about. It was slow to get a lock, but worked solid for me from that point. The i777 original Galaxy S II is much faster to get a lock, but not as fast as my wife's iPhone. I am extrely pleased with my i777, but I don't gave LTE, and would be surprised if I have it next time I upgrade.
I bet the Vivid will pick up a lot of the Inspire crowd, but I don't think it will rival any of the Samsung phones of late.
If I had LTE coverage to play with I might have been tempted, but its still first Gen LTE phone for att, so that scares me from both the vivid and skyrocket.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
I actually wound up with one of my Lines being the LG Thrill and that phone is still stuck with Froyo so yea LG has a VERY Bad record of keeping up with updates considering the Thrill isn't even that old. As for the Skyrocket it seems to have a bit of a banding issue like white lines when you are watching movies or what not that is quite aggravating. Oh yea also forgot the Skyrocket Does not seem to have FM Radio built in. It does have an NFC chip though which is kind of a bonus but with the horrid screen it really depends on what your looking for in a device. If you want a fast phone out of the Box and something with NFC than the Skyrocket is what you will want. If you want a phone that has Wonderful resolution and will Be most likely Just as fast as the Skyrocket once it gets root than I would go with the Vivid.
After having owned both the Skyrocket and the Vivid for a few days, here are a couple of my thoughts. I hope this helps your decision process. This is all just my opinion.
I like the feel of the Skyrocket in my hand better.
The Skyrocket's web browser is not resizing websites when you pinch to expand. The Vivid does.
The Skyrocket's screen colors are brighter than the Vivid's, but light colored websites and text on a full white background is significantly dimmer.Reading ebooks is better on the Vivid, or--for that matter--my Inspire.
The Skyrocket has the charging/USB port where it belongs, on the bottom. The Vivid's is on the side. That's worse for charging cradles and using the phone while charging.
I like the screen resolution on the Skyrocket better. Fonts are easier to read for those with less than perfect vision. Some of the Vivid's Fonts are downright tiny.
The Vivid works flawlessly with my Motorola H17 headsets. Cyberon works great. The Skyrocket has been basically useless with the H17; how it works with voice command I don't know. This may be a compatibility issue, but still...
Synching to Outlook with the Vivid is painless and free with HTC Synch. Synching to Outlook with the Skyrocket is a PITA and costs $50. (For the third party PC program.) Perhaps there's a better way I haven't found.
Volume is FAR better on the Skyrocket.
Battery life is better on the Skyrocket.
The Vivid can turn Bluetooth volume down further. That's a big deal when on the phone with a loud talker.
Sense (Vivid) is better than Touchwiz (Skyrocket).
Both have data issues right now.
Both are plenty fast enough.
Nakel said:
After having owned both the Skyrocket and the Vivid for a few days, here are a couple of my thoughts. I hope this helps your decision process. This is all just my opinion.
I like the feel of the Skyrocket in my hand better.
The Skyrocket's web browser is not resizing websites when you pinch to expand. The Vivid does.
The Skyrocket's screen colors are brighter than the Vivid's, but light colored websites and text on a full white background is significantly dimmer.Reading ebooks is better on the Vivid, or--for that matter--my Inspire.
The Skyrocket has the charging/USB port where it belongs, on the bottom. The Vivid's is on the side. That's worse for charging cradles and using the phone while charging.
I like the screen resolution on the Skyrocket better. Fonts are easier to read for those with less than perfect vision. Some of the Vivid's Fonts are downright tiny.
The Vivid works flawlessly with my Motorola H17 headsets. Cyberon works great. The Skyrocket has been basically useless with the H17; how it works with voice command I don't know. This may be a compatibility issue, but still...
Synching to Outlook with the Vivid is painless and free with HTC Synch. Synching to Outlook with the Skyrocket is a PITA and costs $50. (For the third party PC program.) Perhaps there's a better way I haven't found.
Volume is FAR better on the Skyrocket.
Battery life is better on the Skyrocket.
The Vivid can turn Bluetooth volume down further. That's a big deal when on the phone with a loud talker.
Sense (Vivid) is better than Touchwiz (Skyrocket).
Both have data issues right now.
Both are plenty fast enough.
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I understand liking super amoled more but actually preferring lower resolution? You must be one of few. Just resize the fonts if they're too small.
Doors anyone know anything about the LG Nitro? It seems to be a solid device specifications wise. How much damage does LG do with their launcher/modifications.
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loriolus said:
I understand liking super amoled more but actually preferring lower resolution? You must be one of few. Just resize the fonts if they're too small.
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Many system fonts are not resizeable. Go android. One of the few? Anyone who's vision is less than perfect and doesn't want to put on their reading glasses to use the phone. Now, I believe once the phone is rooted there are apps that can change pixel density? So there probably is a way down the road to fix this. But I'm just talking out of the box experience here. Anyone with the skill/desire to get into that will disregard what I'm saying anyway. I'm just trying to help the unskilled masses make their decision.
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-The Nexus is not going to come out for AT&T anytime soon, I think.
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So I start this off with a disclaimer that this is complete hearsay and in no way from an authoritative source. But! I was talking to a friend of mine who works for Samsung America in the PR department about phones, and I asked her about the Galaxy Nexus. While she wouldn't really say much, she did say that if I wanted it on AT&T, I'd have to wait till the end of the 1st quarter or beginning of the 2nd quarter in 2012. So, at some point in the future, the Galaxy Nexus will likely be available for AT&T, but it'll probably be a ways off.
I have heard both good AND bad about LG phones, but this thing looks too tempting to pass up. My week old SGS II will be heading back to AT&T as soon as the Nitro drops.
I was debating the nitro once i heard about it but after having the skyrocket and relazing the only benefit is the screen thats where it stopped. I feel that the dev community and just overall software upgrades (skyrocket is confirmed for sandwich 100%) and other lack of issues on the bulletproof skyrocket makes me believe that i made the right choice. Every time i play with the vivid and skyrocket, yes the crispy screen is nice but once you take them away from side to side the skyrocket isn't too bad.
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Doors anyone know anything about the LG Nitro? It seems to be a solid device specifications wise. How much damage does LG do with their launcher/modifications.
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Media guy here - i have a new in box Nitro HD, LTE, for AT&T, if anyone wants to buy it. PM me if interested. I got to play with it/review it extensively, and it's LG's best efforts to date. The G2x is crap against it, and LG has really stepped it up.
They gave us Nitro HD's to keep, but I'm on T-Mobile, and as much as I'd like to use the Nitro HD, I don't want to use it on Edge, T-Mobile connection, hence my reason for selling. If you want to buy it from me, let me know - thanks!
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I was debating the nitro once i heard about it but after having the skyrocket and relazing the only benefit is the screen thats where it stopped. I feel that the dev community and just overall software upgrades (skyrocket is confirmed for sandwich 100%) and other lack of issues on the bulletproof skyrocket makes me believe that i made the right choice. Every time i play with the vivid and skyrocket, yes the crispy screen is nice but once you take them away from side to side the skyrocket isn't too bad.
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If I'm not mistaken LG has said that the nitro along with the 3d optimus (the thrill here in the us) will.br getting ics upgrades. Im considering returning my vivid for the nitro cause of the screen n all I ever do is root to allow for tethering with out paying since I have unlimited data.
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If I'm not mistaken LG has said that the nitro along with the 3d optimus (the thrill here in the us) will.br getting ics upgrades. Im considering returning my vivid for the nitro cause of the screen n all I ever do is root to allow for tethering with out paying since I have unlimited data.
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I have the Nitro, new in box for sale. As I sad above, I am on T-MObile and can't use it. PM me if interested
I chose the Vivid over the Skyrocket because of the qHD screen and because it had an FM radio. I previously had a Captivate and loved the AMOLED screen, but after lengthy in-store comparison I felt the Vivid's was as good or better than the Skyrocket (at least at full brightness). Both seemed equally snappy. The Skyrocket was much lighter, but I decided I could live with the Vivid's weight.
Bought my Vivid the day it came out, and my only trepidation was, 'Please ATT, don't come out with any 720p phones in the next 30 days.' And sure enough, here comes the Nitro! But even if I could change, I don't think I would. Judging on the specs in Phonescoop (subject to change), the Nitro has the 720p screen, faster processor and lighter weight, but seems to be missing the following features:
- less RAM (720MB vs. 1GB for Vivid/Skyrocket) ** see Edit **
- less internal storage (4GB internal vs. 16GB)
- no FM radio
- no video out ** see Edit **
- possibly less battery life ** see Edit **
Will check out the phone on Monday. Like I said, I really wanted 720p, but I've seen the HTC Rezound in person, and while the text is sharper, it's really only noticeable at very close range - the icon sizes were the same despite having 78% more pixels. So for now, I'm still very happy with my Vivid.
PittFred
EDIT: The Nitro has DLNA, so outputting media on a TV is possible, just not with a cable. Also, Phonearena says the RAM is 1GB, so that 720MB might be the usable figure; comparable to ~800MB for Vivid. Confirmed the 4GB internal storage and no FM radio, which is a minor thing, but I wanted it after AT&T deleted it from the E71x.
The Nitro has an 1820 mAh battery, comparable to the 1850 mAh for the Skyrocket and better than the 1620 mAh for the Vivid, but worse claimed battery life, perhaps a function of the screen. 1800 mAh after-market batteries are available for the Vivid.
After review, the specs are much closer/favorable for Nitro, so it's more of a judgment call.
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Nokia 6200 -> Treo 650 -> HTC 8525 -> Nokia E71/71x -> Samsung Captivate -> HTC Vivid!
RAM
Does 768 to 1GB of ram make a difference? This is some what of a deal breaker for me.
Quick update - the specs are up on AT&T's website. I went to LG's website and downloaded the manual for the Nitro HD (LG P930), and it says that video out by HDMI cable is possible, and over WiFi/Bluetooth/USB in more limited ways. Perhaps these differences are due to differences between international and Americanized models. If correct, Nitro's specs seem even more favorable.
$150 in my area, may have to swap for vivid. ARG
I'm going fir the og gs2 right after church. Vivid is nice but no root, battery life, and some what leggy ui... I came from ios and so fat I am disappoint with android but I think its the phone. Ever since I first got this phone I kinda wish I hadn't.
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Just yesterday my phone didn't make it a whole day. I unplugged it at 7am and then watched some YouTube vids and by 7pm the battery was dead. Heck, at 6pm my battery said it had 40% battery and I used the navigation system for 5mins and it went down to 20%. Its kinda embarrassing when your friend ask for a flashlight so I had him my phone but the battery is to low for the flashlight to turn on. My other friend asked "I thought you had 45% battery an hour ago" and then hands his iPhone 4s to that guy. So no, this phone has been a disapointment. Sorry for the rant
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I'm going fir the og gs2 right after church. Vivid is nice but no root, battery life, and some what leggy ui... I came from ios and so fat I am disappoint with android but I think its the phone. [\b] Ever since I first got this phone I kinda wish I hadn't.
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If you think the UI is laggy then, trust me:
You have issues with Android. And may just want to go back to the iPhone.
Because as Android devices go, this phone is the smoothest I've ever seen.
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Note N7000 or Note I717?

Hi Everyone,
I live in Toronto and I am on Fido right now. I also have a Bell SIM that I use from time to time. It seems that Rogers has Galaxy Samsung Note I717.
What would be the best move for me? Buy a more expensive N-7000 or a I717?
I think N-7000 is not LTE compatible with Fido? (correct me if I am wrong).
I am also very interested in Ice Cream sandwich and heard all updates and better apps will be released only for N-7000 or sooner for it. Is that true?
Thanks
torontobc said:
Hi Everyone,
I live in Toronto and I am on Fido right now. I also have a Bell SIM that I use from time to time. It seems that Rogers has Galaxy Samsung Note I717.
What would be the best move for me? Buy a more expensive N-7000 or a I717?
I think N-7000 is not LTE compatible with Fido? (correct me if I am wrong).
I am also very interested in Ice Cream sandwich and heard all updates and better apps will be released only for N-7000 or sooner for it. Is that true?
Thanks
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I SHALL SAVE YOU!
I'm on fido (NO LTE, HSDPA+ gives around 7.9 Mbsp down 1.7 Mbsp up), and recently bought a N7000. My thoughts to you are:
1) Do you need LTE? Yes -> I717
2) Stock experience with ICS coming sooner rather than later -> N7000
3) Performance -> I've tried both the N7000 and I717 and I'd say the N7000 runs a TINY bit better. Benchmarks are over-exaggerated.
Also, N7000 development is much better ATM, which is understandable - it's an older phone. So, if you like playing with custom roms, that might perhaps be another point worth considering.
Edited: this thread might also be of interest to the OP.
Thanks guys.
So, I don't use LTE either but am disappointed that I can't full-proof the future with a N-7000 version as I am leaning more towards that too.
Got following questions now:
A- ICS is not released for it yet right?
B- I get H+ on my phone, that is 4G or HSPA+ and not LTE right?
C- What about rooting Galaxy Note? N-7000 or I717?
D- What is a better phone than Note now? Galaxy S II? or yet better than that?
Thanks again,
torontobc said:
Thanks guys.
So, I don't use LTE either but am disappointed that I can't full-proof the future with a N-7000 version as I am leaning more towards that too.
Got following questions now:
A- ICS is not released for it yet right?
B- I get H+ on my phone, that is 4G or HSPA+ and not LTE right?
C- What about rooting Galaxy Note? N-7000 or I717?
D- What is a better phone than Note now? Galaxy S II? or yet better than that?
Thanks again,
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A)There is a leaked unofficial version and AOSP based roms right now. Official ICS is coming in Q2.
B)Yes, that is "4G/HSPA+"
C)Both are easy to root, if you have rooted Android phones before, no need of ADB to root.
D)Right now, the N-7000 is the best phone b/c of it's screen size and resolution. The only phones to compare would be the Optimus LTE, Galaxy Nexus, and Sony Experia S(Super High PPI). Honestly, I would wait until the SIII comes out if you're this late into the year as Quad-Core phones are coming around the corner and you can future-proof yourself better this way.
Thanks Kotaro_14.
I am afraid no one else do a big screen like Note anytime soon and it's such a beautiful phone that I am in love with it now
But, low battery, no ICS is a turn off.
I thought screen size and resolution are the same on both version except for having different graphic card chips?!
Best,
torontobc said:
Thanks Kotaro_14.
I am afraid no one else do a big screen like Note anytime soon and it's such a beautiful phone that I am in love with it now
But, low battery, no ICS is a turn off.
I thought screen size and resolution are the same on both version except for having different graphic card chips?!
Best,
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N7000 has physical buttons that don't waste screen estate like the i717.
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N7000 have the better cpu if compare to N1717
LTE is overrated until carrier start rolling out $20 unlimited data plan, which definitely will not happen before we see the next "note" HSPA+ in my area is doing 7mbps RL. There is virtually no difference between the two based on what I do with my Note. Not to mention LTE cut your battery life by an enormous margin. I would not bother even if my phone has it.
I know Galaxy SIII is around the corner and probably has quad processor. But the main reason I dump iphone for Note is because of the screen size. Making mobile task much easier. Unless SIII had 5.3" screen, it is not for me. Should you wait for SIII? Well, if you can wait... Usually mean that you dont need it....
Honestly, I really dont know how a quad core cpu / gpu will improve user experience. You can port the most demanding game to Galaxy SIII or even CAD program, but you will still be limited to the 4~5 ish [email protected]@ those with gigantic fingers or guerrilla palms are going to be sh!t out of luck
Well the reason for me to wait for the SIII is that with a more powerful GPU and CPU a port for Windows 8 will probably come along and that's what really interests me. And of course Ubuntu also. I agree the screen size won't be as big as the Note, but I'm willing to get it b/c of huge dev community, probably fix the black clipping issue, and SAMOLED+. Of course the Note 2 is also another option.
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+1 i like xda-developers
There was an OpenMonko or OpenMoko project just prior to Android that did Linux on the DIY hardware but it died with Android coming out. I think expectations from phones are way too much now that it requires it's own separate OS fork like Android.
Thanks for all the info guys. I am leaning towards N-7000 now. Hate the no warranty though.
I had the i717 for a few weeks. Honestly ran great. Played 8-bit 720p mkv vids no problem. I saw a few quirks with 10-bit mkv files, but I'm unsure as to whether I should attribute that to the video player (moboplayer) or the chipset.
I rooted and flashed it over to SAUROM on day one. I didn't have too many performance issues, though it somewhat stuttered trying to run Ocarina of Time, moreso than my Atrix did.
I don't have LTE down here in my part of Florida, US, and I don't expect to see it any time soon. I wish I had a few tags to toy with the NFC, I really would've liked to have tossed one in my car dock.
My reason for returning was mostly the cost of phone + AT&T service. Monthly prices were more than I calculated, and I thought it in my best interest to pick up the phone elsewhere for cheaper while using a prepaid service. I found no real fault with the phone itself.
I just ordered an n7000 from Expansys US. It should arrive tomorrow. Apparently Expansys has a European office to help with claims on Samsung's 2-year warranty. Moreover, their price for a new n7000 with Samsung car charger and next-day shipping still came out to $100 less than trying to buy a brand new i717 here in the States. I won't be able to compare performance until it's in my hands, but the consensus seems to be that the n7000 offers a bit more performance, especially on ICS.
I'm trying to decide between the n7000 and the i717 myself. I'm currently on Verizon but am looking to escape Big Red.
The N7000 obviously is a bit faster, from the benchmarks it seems mostly on higher end 3D stuff that the N7000 is faster than the I717. I like the design of the N7000 better as well, and unlocked aspect appeals to me considering the carrier problems I've had. From the sound of it the ROM situation sounds better, which also appeals to me.
My main concern here is carrier. T-mo is out as I don't want to be stuck with 2G. AT&T worries me though, some people have been using the $50 Gophone unlimited plan, but it sounds like if AT&T finds out it's a smart phone you're out of luck, and the data plan options for pre-paid are expensive last I looked.
The plus side of the I717 is that I can get it on contract and defray the up front cost. Plus I don't have to worry about figuring out what kind of plan I can use on the International version. I also get a corporate discount of 20-22% on AT&T but it doesn't apply to the prepaid or "GoPhone" plans. A typical plan (450 min, unlimited texting, 3gb data) would probably run me about $77/mo after tax.
I'd be tempted to go N7000 and get a normal plan from AT&T and skip the Gophone hassles, but I refuse to sign a 2 year contract and I don't know if they'll allow you to be on a normal plan if you don't sign a contract. I know T-mo won't.
So opinions, what would you folks do in my situation? N7000 with normal plan, N7000 with Gophone, or I717 with normal plan?
You can reflash the modem of the i717 for full 3G compatibility on T-mobile AWS bands, so that might be an advantage over the n7000. Moreover, with the recent Skyrocket ICS leak, I'd expect to see some sort of ICS on the i717 within the next couple of weeks.
If you're not overly concerned about warranty, I'd honestly recommend picking up an i717 on Craigslist/eBay and taking it to a prepaid AT&T MVNO like Red Pocket or Straight Talk. If you're in an area where T-Mobile offers better service, eBay can get you an unlock code for $25, then just flash the proper modem and head to T-Mo prepaid or Simple Mobile. Either way, you're looking at $45-60 a month.
While performance may be marginally better on the n7000, I found the i717 to be in no way lacking after two weeks of use. The biggest deciding factors for me was cost. I wanted the security of a manufacturer's warranty, and Expansys offered a new n7000 for less than I could pick up an i717 here.
Hmm, I'd never heard of Red Pocket. It appears they have coverage anywhere AT&T does. The $60 for unlimited talk/text/2gb data is appealing and I'd not have to worry about contracts and such...
If you're looking into the MVNOs, I've heard Jolt Mobile offers better service than Red Pocket at the same price. Either way, Red Pocket apparently has the nasty issue where, if you try to re-up your plan a few days early, you lose the last few days of the plan and the new billing cycle starts up the day you pay. I've heard of no such issue with Jolt.
I'm personally opting for Straight Talk next month. They recently started offering sim cards for their AT&T and T-Mobile services. They market an "unlimited everything" plan for $45/month, but the truth is if you go over 100MB a day, you risk them cutting off your service. That's not an issue for me, as I don't even hit 100MB a week, but some users prefer the comfort of using 2GB whenever/however they want. If you go over with RP/Jolt, they just cut off data until the next month.
Moreover, Straight Talk is one of the few AT&T MVNOs to get access to AT&T's roaming partners. Most others are limited to just the AT&T towers. It's something to consider if you travel a lot.
As of now, none of them have access to AT&T's LTE service, so regardless of the device you choose, you'd be limited to HSPA+ service, which really isn't a bad "limit" at all. If you're concerned about battery life, SAUROM for the i717 is based on the Canadian i717 ROM, and it gives you the option to turn LTE off. Obviously not an issue with the n7000.
I think I'm just going to suck it up and get the I717... I have my eyes on an amp for my home theater and it pretty well goes out the window for lack of funds if I get the N7000. Hopefully AT&T doesn't sit on the ICS upgrade for too long compared to the N7000.
If I didn't get a discount for service through my employer it would probably be a different story.
That and with my luck I'd have to ship the thing back to the UK for warranty service when something went wrong with it...
Thanks for your input guys.
Ruh roh... it looks like AT&T is going to be a pain about my credit. Odd since Verizon and T-mo never had any issues (though T-mo made me pay a $50 deposit).
I may have to go International after all.
Been toying with the n7000 that came in today.
Handles videos like a champ, but not much better than the i717. 8bit 720p mkvs still fly, thanks to hardware decoding. 10bit 720p mkvs resort to software decoding and stutter.
I've tried two video players for the 10bit video. MoboPlayer plays them full-speed, but there are plenty of graphical glitches like color wash out and excessive blockiness. MX Video Player plays without graphical issue, but video is somewhat slow and stuttery. I'm hoping an overclock kernel will help.
Ocarina of Time ran more smoothly than it did on my i717. Still not entirely smooth, but definitely playable.
As far as functionality, LTE was always out of the question, but I apparently traded the NFC chip for an fm radio. That's actually worthwhile to me, as I attend several events over the year that broadcast audio over local fm.
I am -not- enjoying this home button. I've got fairly large hands, so I haven't had much issue using the Note one-handedly. The issue is with the capacitive buttons. Since I hold the Note in my left hand, on the i717, I could comfortably reach the Menu, Home, and Back buttons with my left thumb. I never used the Search button. On the n7000, what used to be the Back button is now the edge of the Home button, and the Back button is pushed further to the side. It's not entirely unreachable, but it's very uncomfortable. Then again, most users here probably have hands smaller than mine, so your mileage may vary.
I'll be toying with ROMs tomorrow, but quick glance tells me the ICS roms aren't as stable as I'd prefer, so I'll hold off on those for a bit.
So yeah, if I had to compare the two right now:
i717: LTE, NFC, more comfortable Capacitive button layout
n7000: FM Radio, Cheaper New (unless ordering 32GB model), better Emulator performance
Both handle movies amazingly well. While the n7000 definitely has more ROM options now, that'll fix itself in time, and what's currently available for the i717 is good quality. ICS should follow shortly.

Need help deciding on upgrade

Its time to upgrade, I like the EVO 3D, but is it worth it,, What are some other options, Thanks.
Get the EVO LTE. Most of the OG Evo devs, and some of the ones that were here (like me XD) are getting it. Downside to that is you might be stuck with 3G until LTE is implemented on your location.
But if you're ok with WiMax 4G, then you should get the Galaxy SII. Not too sure, but I think the community is better than the Evo 3D's.
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Get the EVO LTE. Most of the OG Evo devs, and some of the ones that were here (like me XD) are getting it. Downside to that is you might be stuck with 3G until LTE is implemented on your location.
But if you're ok with WiMax 4G, then you should get the Galaxy SII. Not too sure, but I think the community is better than the Evo 3D's.
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Thanks for the reply, I got the Galaxy SII and so far its great..
Congrats! That phone is sexy in white (you better have gotten the white one)!
Ill probably be getting the galaxy SIII but I'm not sure yet.
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Personally I would get the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I know a lot of people are getting the Samsung Galaxy SIII but to me they are getting it because of the name Samsung established with the SII. The SIII is nothing compared to what the SII brought when it was release. The SIII boasts a lot of feature but for me personally I doubt I will know enough people to even use half of them, if one of them at all. I know I'm not going to go up to strangers and exchange data so those features aren't what I'm looking for. Also from what I have been reading the SIII feels like cheap plastic as oppose to the HTC's unibody. But due to that unibody the HTC isn't allowed a mSD card, so that might be your deal breaker. S-Voice that comes with the SIII is crap and everyone is waiting for Jelly Bean anyways. From benchmarks at Anandtech the HTC seems to score higher or up to par with the SGSIII so the best way to determine what you want is to go to the store and feel and mess with both of them. That's how I would finalize my decision if I haven't already made it.
Hmoobphajej said:
Personally I would get the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I know a lot of people are getting the Samsung Galaxy SIII but to me they are getting it because of the name Samsung established with the SII. The SIII is nothing compared to what the SII brought when it was release. The SIII boasts a lot of feature but for me personally I doubt I will know enough people to even use half of them, if one of them at all. I know I'm not going to go up to strangers and exchange data so those features aren't what I'm looking for. Also from what I have been reading the SIII feels like cheap plastic as oppose to the HTC's unibody. But due to that unibody the HTC isn't allowed a mSD card, so that might be your deal breaker. S-Voice that comes with the SIII is crap and everyone is waiting for Jelly Bean anyways. From benchmarks at Anandtech the HTC seems to score higher or up to par with the SGSIII so the best way to determine what you want is to go to the store and feel and mess with both of them. That's how I would finalize my decision if I haven't already made it.
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You do know that the HTC EVO 4G LTE doesn't have a unibody construction and has a micro SD card right? It's the only U.S variant with a different design among all the U.S carriers.
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You do know that the HTC EVO 4G LTE doesn't have a unibody construction and has a micro SD card right? It's the only U.S variant with a different design among all the U.S carriers.
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Everyone is still referring to it as a aluminum unibody. But I'm not entirely sure how loosely people define "unibody" as. I do know that the only removable portion is the top portion of the back. So the majority of the body is still just one piece.

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