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Hello,
I need some expert help to get my XDA IIs out of bootloader.
I attempted to update ROM and got stuck in Bootloader.
I followed directions posted on this forum to the letter:
Make sure your device or cradle is connected directly to your computer (so no hubs!)
Disconnect the device from the PC, or remove from cradle
Perform a "hard reset" on the device (screen will flicker but nothing will change)
Kill the BaUpgradeUt.exe program on your PC by using Window's Task Manager (CRTL+ALT+DEL)
Kill the wcesscom.exe program on your PC by using Window's Task Manager (this is the ActiveSync application)
Place the device back in it's cradle
Restart the upgrade program from your PC (double-click BaUpgradeUt.exe)
Still No JOY !!! Any suggestions ?
Solution to Upgrade..?
Hi, have you looked at this properly..?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade
Or - If you're trying to update to WM5..
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_5.1.1700_build_14343_Upgrade
Then you should be ok.. Take a breather, start again..
Let me know how you get on..?
Cheers,
Stuck in Bootloader Screen
Mr Philly,
Thank you very much for your help, however I followed the links you gave me, and still have no joy.
When I run the BaUpgradeUt.exe I get a "connection error" saying check the physical connection between the phone and the computer. Also, BaUpgradeUt seems to close active sync once launched. The program then freezes unless I reopen active sync. I then get the connection error.
When I run the MaUpgradeUt.exe I get to the upgrade screen telling you that you are upgrading from ... to ... however the fields listing the various ROM versions etc.. are blank. If I click on upgrade, I get an error 150 saying "not designed for your device, please get proper ROM upgrade utility."
Any new suggestions for me ?
Missing my XDA very much as I use it a lot.
Thanks
I figured out the problem. It seems that the PDA was not responding to the ROM upgrade because the SD Card was in place. Origionally I thought this to be of no consequence as I only have a "dummy" card in the slot. I was wrong. Once I removed the Card everything went as it was supposed to.
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Stuck on bootloader
Hi all,
I copyed in fakt i did cut some files from my BA and moved to Storage Card (1Gb), and it restart byhimself and i am stuck on the bootloader. ??? Shall i rom Upgrad it ?
Howlingwolf
Please help. I flashed 2.16.9.x and now ActiveSync doesn't work anymore, it connects all the time. PDA doesn't show activesync syncronization icon.
I tried to flash another versions of ROM, but it didn't help.
The problem may lie with the PC as opposed to the PDA. Have you tried a remove / re-install of AS4.1 on the PC?
Bebbo said:
The problem may lie with the PC as opposed to the PDA. Have you tried a remove / re-install of AS4.1 on the PC?
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Of course I have. Even I tried on another computer.
vishny said:
Of course I have.
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Fair enough, I was just trying to help. Perhaps if you had stated that in your original text I would not have provided such an "Obvious" answer. I will leave it up to others now to take guesses as to what you "might or might not have done"......
vishny said:
Please help. I flashed 2.16.9.x and now ActiveSync doesn't work anymore, it connects all the time. PDA doesn't show activesync syncronization icon.
I tried to flash another versions of ROM, but it didn't help.
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Try to make your computer or laptop restore on earlier date then since it started. I had once this problem i don't know but sometimes it with the system files in computer missing then the problem occurs.
Although my ActiveSync works almost fine after the same rom-upgrade, I encounter its strange behaviour sometimes (rear, not always!) - PDA slows down to a crawl right after you disconnect it from a desktop PC (either USB or Bluetooth). It becomes so terribly slow that it takes 20-30 sec to draw the Comm-manager window! then you better soft-reset, then it works just fine. Why am I... to prove that ActiveSync 4.1 is not quite stable with new ROM version 2.16. There is a bug somewhere, and it has to be reported to i-Mate firmware writers.
Have you followed Microsoft rules about configuring firewalls for ActiveSync 4.1? Does it create a network connection 169.254.2.1 on a desktop PC?
Thank you guys, but I guess my case is harder:
1. I have firewall switched off. I didn't change any setting in computer. I just flashed new ROM.
2. I flashed my original ROM, but it didn't help.
3. I tried to sync on several computers and had the same result.
By the way I cannot return to original ipl/spl, I don't know how to do that.
Today I visited repairing service's office and they've prooved me my device is not broken, it synchronizes succesfully via USB on their computer. :shock:
So, the problem is related to my computer(s). If I'll find something I report in this thread.
it probably has to do with one of the cabs you installed that are on your original extrom or someone elses. Most people who have had problems after the upgrade on an 8125 (Cingular) have installed cingular cabs from the old rom. I had to to figure out the MMS configuration and after I foundthe one that did my activesync no longer worked. after a reflash and only installing some of the default cabs that came with the new rom and manually configuring the mms and gprs I don't have any problems at all.
well maybe it is the version of activesync we are using when this does happen.
I'm running the ROM that came with the Cingular 8125, and it does the same thing ... 1 in 10 times after disconnecting the device from the PC, the 8125 slows to a crawl, and the only way to recover is a soft-reset. 9 out of 10, it works fine.
OS ROM: 1.8.11.1 WWE
Radio: 01.09.11
Protocol: 4.0.13.20
not overclocked
soon to be ROM upgraded (hopefully)
ethorn said:
well maybe it is the version of activesync we are using when this does happen.
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I use 4.1 for a long time.
I didn't install anything on my pda. It happens even after hard reset. I even tried to flash original rom. In all cases ActiveSync displays "Connecting...", pda even doesn't display sync icon.
I tried to sync with standalone notebook and it was successfull. I'm really shocked why pda cannot sync with my desktop(s). It seems to me it could happen after some windows unattendant updates or something, I'm still investigating...
I have Qtek 9100 and have installed rom 2.16.9 and i also have activesync 4.1 refusing connection to my pda. After some googling i have found this interesting site: http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/tshoot-as4x-connection.htm
I did cheks described there and found out that activesync doesnt have any network adapters and/or activity. USB driver installs, but it, again, doesnt generate anything. Maybe problem is there?
Ehhh... I even cannot return to any previous rom version, because there is no rapi for updaters to work with
reverting back to original cingular rom
How would you go back to original ROM using Lokiwiz tool if your active sync was working OK?
Thanks,
Each time I have done HARD RESET--I uninstalled active sync from my computer AFTER DELETING PARTNERSHIP. I deleted PC from Active sync on my 8125. I deleted all files on my computer related to active sync using search.
I then reinstalled active sync 4.1, being sure WINDOWS FIREWALL was off. I went thru all the steps with my TREND MICRO VIRUS PERSONAL FIREWALL EXCEPTIONS listed on http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/help/activesync/default.mspx
and I got it to work (1st install always takes time for calendar)
Hope that helps--it seems ridiculous to have redo all that-but so be it.
I'd like to know how to get back to CINGULAR ROM as I am still in 30 day return window.
Well there is a magical combination of buttons as described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37386 (somewhere around 2-4 page):
Voice+Camera + Reset. Colored bootloader shows up. After that you can connect it to usb and run .exe with rom you want.
The problem with me is that i dont use any 3rd party firewall (i have hardware router for my connections)
reverting back to original cingular rom
You don't think there would be a problem going DOWN in ROM'S?
Do I need to UNLOCK again first?
I must confess. I did (i think veeery lucky) sucseded in running activesync. Altough what was the cause i cannot say. I reverted to 1.6.7 version of the rom. and reinstall everyting several times. and reboted several time. and i saying loud magical words. (and deleted checkpoint vpn software that i have installed). AND it worked!
Maybe trouble was in vpn soft, but it worked pre 4.1 activesync. So... Here is my experience.
Boki said:
I have Qtek 9100 and have installed rom 2.16.9 and i also have activesync 4.1 refusing connection to my pda. After some googling i have found this interesting site: http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/tshoot-as4x-connection.htm
I did cheks described there and found out that activesync doesnt have any network adapters and/or activity. USB driver installs, but it, again, doesnt generate anything. Maybe problem is there?
Ehhh... I even cannot return to any previous rom version, because there is no rapi for updaters to work with
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Thank you very much for this link, it helped me to find the reason. It's not new ROM fault. The Microsoft Firewall Client (ISA 2000 component) on desktop blocks communication between PDA and desktop. I disabled it and now ActiveSync works fine.
Thank you again.
Your Are Welcome
Everything works fine.
But i cant use activesync 4.5 to sync my contacts and so on
(i can install programes but it doesnt sync the conntacts.)
If i disable advanced network functionality the xda freezes
and the computer shows an unknwon usb device.
Can someone help me ?
Sorry for being a noob.
Everything is fine for me, are you sure that you flash the rom correctly as ordered ?
Sync problem
often can`t detect pda synchronitation . it`s show sync problem . Any way to fix it ?
I told you I don't have any problem which mentioned may be you have to reflash your rom, and start from the beginning.
Or first, you can delete your pairing connection with the pc, reinstall your active sync. And try to pair again. If you said "often", I hope this is not because of your hardware problem.
make sure your device is powered on ( the back light is on)..i also get it some time (only if i shut it by pressing Power Button at top)
Himalaya's USB Port is allergic to hubs
Don't try to use an USB Hub to connect the Himalaya to your PC. Always use a direct connection. This solved the problem for me.
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Hi,
urbstar said:
Everything works fine.
But i cant use activesync 4.5 to sync my contacts and so on
(i can install programes but it doesnt sync the conntacts.)
If i disable advanced network functionality the xda freezes
and the computer shows an unknwon usb device.
Can someone help me ?
Sorry for being a noob.
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Got exactly the same problem, since upgraded to WM6 (Tofclock Fresh ROM) Activesync never finds the PDA. Tried really everything possible, doesn't work. But 'cause there are some beautiful tools like WM5Storage or PIMBackup I don't care about ActiveSync.
May be its - as mentioned here - the USB Connection over USB Hub. But it's an internal one in my case so I can't proof.
And I don't think that the workaround for this problem is a ROM-ReFlash 'cause everything else works fine.
So long
HonkBB
i have same sync problem
i have upgraded from wm2003se to WM2006 AKU7.0 RAMDisk-40MB Pagepool size-24MB for Himalaya and everything is good but no activesync.
i have reflashed 4 times now and still no good.
any ideas???
newquaymarc said:
i have upgraded from wm2003se to WM2006 AKU7.0 RAMDisk-40MB Pagepool size-24MB for Himalaya and everything is good but no activesync.
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Is your USB cable connected to a hub? This was the problem in my case (see above), but other users reported that it fails to when directly connected. Strange problem this is...
stupiddog said:
Is your USB cable connected to a hub? This was the problem in my case (see above), but other users reported that it fails to when directly connected. Strange problem this is...
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cheer for reply but no cradle connected direct to my laptop
gonna have to go back to 2003 se till i hear of solution
shame xda runs great with wm6
I just want to ask you about active sync which version did you use ?
selangkahlagi said:
I just want to ask you about active sync which version did you use ?
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thanks for replying
im using active sync 4.5 with xp pro all has been ok till this upgrade
I have the same with you, and everything is going well. May be you can try to delete the pairing both form your PDA and your PC and try to make new pairing again Good luck
selangkahlagi said:
I have the same with you, and everything is going well. May be you can try to delete the pairing both form your PDA and your PC and try to make new pairing again Good luck
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cheers yes tried that.
im not happy with install anyway so will try again in a few days,
i think the unlock/unhide, doc tool did'nt work as i only got a formating msg
and still had my old splash screen and 14 odd me after the upgrade.
many thanks for your help.
will let ya know how i get on
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cheers yes tried that.
im not happy with install anyway so will try again in a few days,
i think the unlock/unhide, doc tool did'nt work as i only got a formating msg
and still had my old splash screen and 14 odd me after the upgrade.
many thanks for your help.
will let ya know how i get on
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If you had old splash screen, big possibility you didn't do the last step
selangkahlagi said:
If you had old splash screen, big possibility you didn't do the last step
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i did do it but dont think it ran correct, is it ment to run on 2003 se?
newquaymarc said:
i did do it but dont think it ran correct, is it ment to run on 2003 se?
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did you do this step
hardreset your device.
Press ResetButton and hold down CameraButton + RecordButton.
Hold them pressed until the "Boot Options" menu appears on the screen.
Select the options as follows:
(for selecting use RecordButton, change values with CameraButton)
Enable KITL -> NO
Clean Registry Hive -> YES
Format Storage -> YES
When done, press DPad and wait until OS starts.
hi
yep done all that, NO-YES-YES i think the prep work before upgrade did'nt work..
maybe i need to goto wm5 then wm6, but wm5 was too slow for me to use.
a lot of laptops actually have one set of usb ports that are registered as a powered hub and often these don't really have enough power across all the ports... jst an idea...
active-sink!!!!!!!
hi all xperts,
lemme start with my Thanx to Tof the great and Helmi who have made this possible for the good ol' Hima..
Now i need some help -
I installed this package close to a month back with all instructions point by point.
Activesync was the problem..
Today i thot i'll increase the storage space - ran the unlock and then realised the Hima Doc tool is a exe file and i'll hv to have a valid activesync connection before i can get that worked.
Then i thot, i'll reload WM6.0
Again, started in Boot loader - Got the Serial Screen with v1.06 in bottom, connected my device to run the software -
I'm redoing the flash now - wish me luck guyz!!!!!!!!!!
I was performing the radio update on my MDAIII and now he hangs in the bootloader with USB in the upper middle und 2.08 in the under middle. All resets won`t bring it back to life. If I try to reinstall the update all I get is a blank message screen (update from version to version) in my Vista. How can I get out of there.
I did everything what was stated here
The original BAUpgradeUT won`t find my device. The MAUpgradeUt_noID.exe gives me the blank screen with the update from to screen.
Drake008 said:
I was performing the radio update on my MDAIII and now he hangs in the bootloader with USB in the upper middle und 2.08 in the under middle. All resets won`t bring it back to life. If I try to reinstall the update all I get is a blank message screen (update from version to version) in my Vista. How can I get out of there.
I did everything what was stated here
The original BAUpgradeUT won`t find my device. The MAUpgradeUt_noID.exe gives me the blank screen with the update from to screen.
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I'm using a Vista PC.
After the Radio update to 1.15 the error described above is not to go away yet.
What to do, I'm nearly in tears.
Finally I got it back but with an old Romupdate from T-Online. Is there someone who got the QTC 9090 update (latest one)
That was fast..
im glad you solved your problem.
i think someone here has it.
just post what you need and make it as a title for others to read in the digest.
Im not a expert but is vista the problem??
Most likely.
Failed MDA II flash with vista notebook
Hello everybody,
I just read this thread in hope to find a solution for my problem, which is quite similar to the one described here initially.
I got a used MDA III with T_Mobile ROM. Since I'm a customer with O2, I wanted to change the ROM to O2 as well. I followed the directions given in an other thread here (don't have the link just now) and during the flashing, the flash application suddenly had no connection to my MDA III anymore. It was securely settled in its craddle an connected to my laptop via USB. Now my MDA III is stuck in Bootloader Mode with USB v2.07 displayed on the screen.
Each retry of installing either the O2 or the T_Mobile ROM now meet with the error 101: no connection. I read here that you managed to update successfully with a vista pc. Thus I wanted to ask, how you did that since I just don't seem to find the reason for the connection failing each time.
Here is what i tried to establish connection so far:
* disabled virus scanner & firewall
* unplugged the mda III and plugged it in again. It was recognized as a new device but that didn't help the connection issue
Could you please post what you did to make the update work under vista? Help would be greatly appreciated
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Hello everybody,
I just read this thread in hope to find a solution for my problem, which is quite similar to the one described here initially.
I got a used MDA III with T_Mobile ROM. Since I'm a customer with O2, I wanted to change the ROM to O2 as well. I followed the directions given in an other thread here (don't have the link just now) and during the flashing, the flash application suddenly had no connection to my MDA III anymore. It was securely settled in its craddle an connected to my laptop via USB. Now my MDA III is stuck in Bootloader Mode with USB v2.07 displayed on the screen.
Each retry of installing either the O2 or the T_Mobile ROM now meet with the error 101: no connection. I read here that you managed to update successfully with a vista pc. Thus I wanted to ask, how you did that since I just don't seem to find the reason for the connection failing each time.
Here is what i tried to establish connection so far:
* disabled virus scanner & firewall
* unplugged the mda III and plugged it in again. It was recognized as a new device but that didn't help the connection issue
Could you please post what you did to make the update work under vista? Help would be greatly appreciated
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Try on computer with Windows XP and kill activesynk (wcecomm.exe on taskmanager/processes)
Maybe it will work. If u cant flash O2 ROM try to use "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe". On my Qtek 9090 allways flash using this APPS and allways work.
U can try too format device first, put it on candle and use "mtty1.42.exe". On XP, kill active sync, and open mtty1.42.exe and select port USB and put OK. Do "Enter" on command and should appear USB>. After this write Task 28. This will format all your PC. Try install SO after this. This command delete all files on PPC. I have attach files that you maybe need.
thankfor the tipp and sorry for my late reply. Since I have no XP PC available i tried the mtty1.42.exe on my vista notebook. When i run it however, it only lists com port 1-3, no usb port. Do i have to make a special configuration on vista for it to work?
Thanks in advance,
mda3newbie
mda3newbie said:
thankfor the tipp and sorry for my late reply. Since I have no XP PC available i tried the mtty1.42.exe on my vista notebook. When i run it however, it only lists com port 1-3, no usb port. Do i have to make a special configuration on vista for it to work?
Thanks in advance,
mda3newbie
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In vista i dont know...sorry for my late reply too.... in XP u must kill ActiveSync process called wincecom.exe. in vista, maybe u have to kill the Windows Mobile Device Center....i dont know...
Dont forget, put the Qtek 9090 in Boot Loader Mode (Pressing Power Button + Record Button + Reset), maybe will appear USB and u can format the device.
If this does not work, try on Windows XP....Find a friend with Windows XP and ask him to use his PC only to do that.
Maybe somebody in forum have the Windows Vista and can help u....
Sorry my terrible english....
Sjogos said:
Try on computer with Windows XP and kill activesynk (wcecomm.exe on taskmanager/processes)
Maybe it will work. If u cant flash O2 ROM try to use "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe". On my Qtek 9090 allways flash using this APPS and allways work.
U can try too format device first, put it on candle and use "mtty1.42.exe". On XP, kill active sync, and open mtty1.42.exe and select port USB and put OK. Do "Enter" on command and should appear USB>. After this write Task 28. This will format all your PC. Try install SO after this. This command delete all files on PPC. I have attach files that you maybe need.
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hi guys I tried the step by step process and when im enterin( Task 28 ) then pressed Enter -
Invalid command : Task28
For a help screen, use command ? or h
does any one know where the problem is??
Try this
Downlaod the XDA IIs .exe file and run it - no need to put into USB mode
http://www.o2online.ie/wps/wcm/conn...es+&+accessories/Xda+Range/Software+upgrades/
this should reset to factory default (o2)
it runs on vista too
I am not 100% sure it will work but worth a try
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Im not a expert but is vista the problem??
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Yes, i know my reply is late but the problem ist 100% Vista! i Tryed 2 ours with vista...then i decided to format my pc and to install XP. At the first try it worked!
I am trying to HARDSPL my Tilt 2 and keeping getting not connected errors [264]. I have tried auto and manual. I placed the CAB file on the device and re-ran. I tried it in Win 7 and XP Mode. The deivce is connected, I can browse files thru the PC, Outlook is syncing, etc...
What will happen if I flash a new ROM without HARDSPL?
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I am trying to HARDSPL my Tilt 2 and keeping getting not connected errors [264]. I have tried auto and manual. I placed the CAB file on the device and re-ran. I tried it in Win 7 and XP Mode. The deivce is connected, I can browse files thru the PC, Outlook is syncing, etc...
What will happen if I flash a new ROM without HARDSPL?
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It won't flash at all.
Make sure you're running the file as administrator, other than that I have no idea what else you can try.
Hope this helps.
search for "enablerapinew.cab" and install
You need to post in the HardSPL thread, if you are having trouble with HardSPL
Thanks for the replies. I am making progress, but still not there.
I already had the enablerapinew.cab installed and I am using the manual flash method.
I "ran as admin" and it started the flash process. This time I got progress bars on-screen and on the device, but both stayed stuck at 0% until the flash utility timed out and walked me thru the recovery process.
I am using Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1.6965. It shows connected but drops the connection when the flash process starts. I assume this normal.
Any other suggestions.
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Thanks for the replies. I am making progress, but still not there.
I already had the enablerapinew.cab installed and I am using the manual flash method.
I "ran as admin" and it started the flash process. This time I got progress bars on-screen and on the device, but both stayed stuck at 0% until the flash utility timed out and walked me thru the recovery process.
I am using Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1.6965. It shows connected but drops the connection when the flash process starts. I assume this normal.
Any other suggestions.
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Hmm at least I helped a little, try updating the Device Centre to the newest, which I believe you acually.
A couple more things to try, one you need an active internet connection (can only assume you have this) and I found this on the HardSPL thread...
"if you get error msg for hard-spl program where it can not connect to device than use the cab that the hardspl program asks you to install on device: especially for tilt2 users.
Once you install the cab (on device), rerun the hard-spl program. DO NOT freak out as your device completely powers off. leave the usb cable plugged into device and computer and follow onscreen prompts."
Also make sure your radio is on (aka you have signal on your phone/it's not in airplane mode) and the basics such as the cable and the USB the device is plugged in to.
Once again, hope this helps
Problem soved. I published my answer in the Hard SPL thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6518785#post6518785
Issue solved, Thread Closed