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I have purchased a Diamond2 after having the Touch Diamond for a while.
I have noticed that the screen on the Diamond2 is not as whte as the D1. The "white colours" and backgrounds seem to be an off-white or even a faint yellow tint. Putting the Touch Diamond and D2 side by side I can notice an obvious difference in the whites.
Is this due to inferior LCD's (if so SHAME on you HTC) or can this be corrected by a hue enhancing application?
I also noticed that the font in the new contacts feature lacks contrast and is faint.
Has anyone else noticed these 2 things?
Aussie
aussie1234 said:
I have purchased a Diamond2 after having the Touch Diamond for a while.
I have noticed that the screen on the Diamond2 is not as whte as the D1. The "white colours" and backgrounds seem to be an off-white or even a faint yellow tint. Putting the Touch Diamond and D2 side by side I can notice an obvious difference in the whites.
Is this due to inferior LCD's (if so SHAME on you HTC) or can this be corrected by a hue enhancing application?
I also noticed that the font in the new contacts feature lacks contrast and is faint.
Has anyone else noticed these 2 things?
Aussie
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Different LCDs have different "default" color temperatures, that's to be expected....and as the new screen is of different size and resolution, possibly from a different manufacturer that the TD1, the color temperature of the TD2 display (warmer = white tends to be yellowish, colder = white tends to be bluish) is almost certainly different from the TD1 one.
What is surprising me is that you report that the TD2 is warmer than the TD1...
Based on the picture here
http://blog.omio.com/wp-content/diamond1vs2.png
I would have expected the opposite, because there u can clearly see that the TD2 is colder than TD1. Maybe it is your device that is different, or maybe it depend on the backlight intensity (although it is unlikely, reviews do not mention it and it should be quite visible)...Could you post pictures of the two screens side-by-side?
Colour Tone D1 vs D2
Hi gkai
My wife is using the D1 and when she comes home from work I will photo the two together.
The photo in the link is interesting - it's the exact opposite of what I am experiencing!
Aussie
I have it too on mine, a slight yellowish tint, not too bad, but now that you mention it, it is a little saddening.
I just think it's that .... Not all LCD's are created equal. There are a lot of things that probably effect how the LCD looks. I mean My HP computer next to my sisters and next to my brothers with the default settings all look slightly different. Mebe there is an app that will let us adjust the hue?
htc buy lcd from 2 suppliers , this is the same as for first diamond and for touch HD , one supplier do his lcd white yellowish and the other do white bluish
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htc buy lcd from 2 suppliers , this is the same as for first diamond and for touch HD , one supplier do his lcd white yellowish and the other do white bluish
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wow, i was not aware that they used 2 different LCD sources for the same models, that is quite strange. For 2 different models, no problem, but for 1 model, I would have expected that quality control would not tolerate such variations...
Good to know, now I cross finger for the colder hue (personal preference, i prefer colder displays in general)...
Every ODM/OEM does this. Apple does it too with iPhone and iPod Touch.
Yip - I noticed this too. Got mine this afternoon, had the TD1 since launch. Screen appears less vibrant - less white and less sharp
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I have seen Diamonds with "cool" and Diamonds with "warm" screens. It's normal.
There must be an app for this, even in theory
the tcpmp app can change its' video output settings, and i know there are programs by nyditot for virtual screen sizes, we must be able to make a "display properties" app?
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the tcpmp app can change its' video output settings, and i know there are programs by nyditot for virtual screen sizes, we must be able to make a "display properties" app?
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Not so sure about that, the main reason why I have some doubt is that WinMo support only 16 bit colors (65535 different colors).
So basically there is 2 possibilities:
1) The colors are taken from a color lookup table coded on 24 bits, which give for each of the 65535 possibilities R, G and B value coded on 8 bits.
2) The colors are fixed, maybe using 5 bits for 32 levels of Red, 5 bit on Green, and 5 bits on Blue (1 bit may represent transparent state, or complementary, or be unused...)
if 1), easy, correcting the screen is just a matter of changing the colors in the lookup table, and with 8 bits (256 levels) to play with for R, G and B, you can fool the eye. Only problem is to find the lookup table in memory.
if 2), it is much more difficult (colors are hardcoded everywhere), and 32 levels is not enough to fool the eye anyways, it would lead to strange color effects, probably not worth it.
Last possibility, that the LCD controller of MSM7200 have some parameters that are software-tunable. Then, it may include a color correction.... I doubt this, but there is certainly somebody here that can tell
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wow, i was not aware that they used 2 different LCD sources for the same models, that is quite strange. For 2 different models, no problem, but for 1 model, I would have expected that quality control would not tolerate such variations.....
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Also quite common in flatscreen TVs, laptops and LCD monitors as well. Very common.
LCDs screens are more or less a commodity by now, so its just a matter of defining specs and size.
Visibility on sunlight
Hello good people, owners of D2...
I am now using Trinity, and I had Artemis before.
But before Artemis I had Axim x50v...
Eversince I have started using HTC devices, one thing bothers me very much.
I live in Israel, and as you probably know/heard , we have sunny days here, most time of the year. So, the problem is, to, actually, see anything on the screen of my HTC device,when I am outside, on sunlight. Dell wasn't perfect also (Nokia is still the best),but it was like 10 times better than HTC.
I am planning to upgrade to D2, but that visibility issue is crucial for me.
Few days ago I had a chance to play with HD, and saw that it has some "new
technology" screen, which was much more visible on sunlight.
Does D2 use same "new technology" screen, or , in general, is it well visible
on sunlight?
Thank you in advance!
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Hello good people, owners of D2...
I am now using Trinity, and I had Artemis before.
But before Artemis I had Axim x50v...
Eversince I have started using HTC devices, one thing bothers me very much.
I live in Israel, and as you probably know/heard , we have sunny days here, most time of the year. So, the problem is, to, actually, see anything on the screen of my HTC device,when I am outside, on sunlight. Dell wasn't perfect also (Nokia is still the best),but it was like 10 times better than HTC.
I am planning to upgrade to D2, but that visibility issue is crucial for me.
Few days ago I had a chance to play with HD, and saw that it has some "new
technology" screen, which was much more visible on sunlight.
Does D2 use same "new technology" screen, or , in general, is it well visible
on sunlight?
Thank you in advance!
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D2 is like or a little better than HD in sunlight
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D2 is like or a little better than HD in sunlight
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it's still not that good though!
I have to turn away from the sun to actually see anything on my screen
I have a TD2 my mate has a HD, yesterday we were comparing the screens outside in bright sunlight and to me, they both looked pretty similar - i.e still hard to read but better than my wifes LG Renoir which we coulcn't see at all. I have yet to come across any phone that performs really well in direct sunlight, not that it bothers me - don't get much sunshine where I live!!
Thank you very much for your answers, and for helping me to make a decision!
If it is like HD, it means it is much better than Trinity...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CoSQPuW2xA
I saw this video, and the yellow tint appears to be very prominent. I have two questions:
Is it really this bad in person, particularly regarding video playback? Can it possibly be a alleviated/fixed with a firmware update like on the iphone? http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/07/tip-updating-iphone-to-3a347-reduces-yellow-tinge.ars
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Aisorik said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CoSQPuW2xA
I saw this video, and the yellow tint appears to be very prominent. I have two questions:
Is it really this bad in person, particularly regarding video playback? Can it possibly be a alleviated/fixed with a firmware update like on the iphone? http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/07/tip-updating-iphone-to-3a347-reduces-yellow-tinge.ars
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You can not look at a photograph or video to determine the screens colour temperature or bias towards being a cold or warm white, this is because the equipment recording the screen is unlikely to be able to adjust it's white balance setting accurately, so you are not watching a true representation, and if was completely accurate, the white balance would then be as your monitor presents it.
On mine the screen the looks a warmer white compared to a Tytn II which looks more cold, both are absolutely okay.
Regards
Phil
Hi All,
Newb to XDA forums tough I have been following quite a few of the development threads for weeks now (OC Kernel, Phiredrop ROM, Tablet Tweaks, etc...). First I must say I'm super impressed at all the development being done for the Nook Color, us NC owners are definitely blessed to have an active XDA community full of brilliant developers!
But here's my first question about the Nook Color, has anyone noticed that some Nook units have a whiter/brighter screen than others?
Long story short is I've gone through about 5 NC units bc of various problems and have noticed that two of the five units I've been sent so far have noticeably whiter and brighter screens than the other three. This is with the brightness setting set at the same level on each Nook. It might be a color temperature or RGB setting difference between them, but I have no clue how or why they would be different since they were all factory fresh units. Does anyone know if Barnes at some point changed color settings (within kernel?) or started using different IPS LCD parts during manufacturing at some point? I did notice that the two I had with whiter/brighter looking screens had serial numbers that started with 20111, while the others had SNs that started with 2010 or 20110. Maybe they made some settings or parts changes during the newer production runs?
I know a lot of you might be thinking I'm not judging them under the same lighting or that the brightness settings are set to different levels, but I assure you that I am placing them all next to each other and always set them to the same brightness level for comparison. Admittedly, I am a bit particular about how the quality and appearance of my LCD screens, but even my girlfriend who is not a big tech person can easily tell the difference between the screen by looking at them from a few feet away. She instantly picks out the one that has whiter whites and appears "brighter" (again with brightness set at the same level).
Of course if you don't have two of these units next to each other for comparison it might be hard to see the difference relative to one another, but I can assure you the screen whiteness differences are there between some units. Wondering if there is any way for us to control these settings via kernel changes or some other changes (color temp, hue, RGB)? My problem is that I currently have a perfect unit that has the dimmer screen, and a brighter unit that has a dead pixel and am trying to decide which I should keep and which I should return. I actually prefer the colors and appearance of the one with the whiter screen but get distracted knowing there is a dead pixel. So it's a tradeoff. However, if i know I can change the colors of the screen and make the good unit look whiter/brighter down the line, I will definitely keep that one.
Any thoughts/advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
anyway u can post a high def video of this? would help on what your seeing. my nookn color is def a lot yellower than my other devices. but never saw a nook that's whiter than the other
I can try to take a video tonight, but not entirely sure if the color/brightness differences will be captured on the video but i'll give it a shot.
I tried not to use the term "yellow" in my initial post since whiteness level is relative, but that's basically how my gf described it - "That one looks yellower than that other."
yeah, i find whites on my nook very "yellowish" compared to my phone.
too bad there's no settings to change the color temperature on the nook.
Actually, that was one of my questions. Is there any way to change the color temperature of the Nook LCD screen or something along that line via the kernel? I have no clue about kernel parameters, but was hoping someone like Dalingrin, the resident kernel guru, might be able to answer this question? I think I've seen some ppl create apps to update color settings in the kernal for android phones.
I have an NC with serial number started 2004, which has very beautiful screen, but just three dead pixels. so I called B&N to have a replacement, and yesterday, the new one arrived (serial number 20112..). When I have both devices sitting next to each other, I can instantly tell the new one is VERY VERY yellowish (or say, the color is way too warm).
I have to call B&N to have another replacement, and the representative told me the yellowish is a known issue, though happen rarely. My personal experience can tell that even the newer devices may still have the yellowish problem.
There goes my theory about newer serial numbers. Have no clue why some units are yellowish and some a nice white then. But so far out of all the units i've got the ones that had whiter screens all seemed to either have dead pixels or some dirt or other particles stuck underneath the glass, and the ones with the yellowish screen seem to have no other screen defects. Probably luck of the draw, but I've got some pretty bad luck so far then. Love the NC, but I'm thinking the quality assurance is pretty shabby at this point.
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Long story short is I've gone through about 5 NC units bc of various problems....
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Sorry if this is OT, but this is the part of your post that most caught my attention. What the hell are you doing to those poor Nooks? ;-)
But seriously--what the hell?
Lol... as mentioned, two had dead pixels one of them the pixel were dead center, one had dirt under the glass, another had a loose back and a yellowish screen. Now trying to decide which of the two I have left to keep. The one with one dead pixel on the right side but a white screen, and the other that has a yellowish screen but no other issues at all.
I hear u with the yellow tint. had this next to my bros Ipad 2. and the nook was embarrasingly yellow. and my apple fan boi bro said it looks like a macaroni n cheese screen.
Our first had a definite "yellow" tint to it. VERY hard to notice, but I seem to notice every imperfection. Exchanged it and the second looked better. A friend of mine bought one and it had the same yellowish tint. Doesn't bother him though. Says he doesn't see it.
Are you running the stock rom/kernel? I know on CM7 there's definitely a more yellowish tone to the screen than on Nookie Froyo or the stock rom.
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Lol... as mentioned, two had dead pixels one of them the pixel were dead center, one had dirt under the glass, another had a loose back and a yellowish screen. Now trying to decide which of the two I have left to keep. The one with one dead pixel on the right side but a white screen, and the other that has a yellowish screen but no other issues at all.
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Didn't realize there was such inconsistencies with the NCs regarding color temp until I read this thread. Without being able to compare screens I have no problems with mine as it seems pretty good to me, serial 2010xx dated Feb 2011.
I guess I was lucky that the one I bought had a good screen without a single dead pixel. That was the only thing I checked as it was the most important thing to me. Couldn't care less about any other cosmetic issues. Build quality was better than I expected for something of this price, but recently the left side of the bezel has started to creak annoyingly when I hold it.
Definitely can't compare to those tablets twice it's price. But AFAIC, it works very well and with the phenomenal dev support, a Nook running CM7/OC can't be beat.
If I were you, I'd return the one with dead pixel. Built into CM7 there is "Render effect". Besides the night modes, there are some basic calibaration profiles in there. Maybe one of them might make your screen a bit "whiter".
edit: I just checked and it seems all the N1 profiles made my screen seem warmer. I suppose a few more profiles can be implemented, perhaps you should start a petition to the devs?
Hi
i have two Samsung galaxy s i9000
One screen looks a bit dull and slightly pink and the other looks really clear.
The dull one is old.
Both have been flashed with the same Rom and are both set us the same
They should be all the same. Are both phones the same origin-carrier?
Sounds like a problem with the pinkish one. Is your kernel voodoo color enabled ?
(But if the phone is old, it may be that the screen is getting, well, used.)
we sell phones, we have brand new and second hand units, regarding the lcd... sometimes if we change lcd screen theres a different resolution between the china-made lcd which is cheaper than the original lcd we sell. did you.change the kcd before? is it second hand unit
Neither phone has had a screen replaced. I've had both from new.
The pink on is 14 months old and the other is two months old.
Only noticed the old one looks poor when i got the new one.
Ill try take a pic.
Will have to use each phone to do it no camera.
A video of quadrant would really show you. Ill see if i can use my mates phone later
Im sure i read somewhere ages ago that the screen can get burnt like with the really old big back monitors do you think it could be that.
There are no marks like battery or the signal bars like you would expect.
Its like someone messed with the colour and contrast or something
they are both amoled screens, right?
usually it shoult last longer than one year, but amoled has a really short lifetime, compaired to all anorganic screens (e. g. LCD)
expecially the blue subpixels (physicaly more energetic than read light) gets weard out a lot faster
and organic screens get weard faster if they get hot or warmer than they should (cooling the screen extends lifetime (in a bag <-> close to the body)
but this are just some background informations, i cant really imagine that a amoled screen is used up in around a year
try to flash a new and a same ROM
then tell us
this may reset all reselutıon parameter on both of them
Maybe the new one is Galaxy SL. Samsung stopped production on i9000 and started making i9003 with super clear LCD displays. Maybe the new one is that.
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But amoled has better quality than sc-lcd
But Super amoled screen display a pinkish white when viewed from the side. This was eleminated when Samsung put sclcd displays. So, the old one may be amoled and new one sclcd
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But amoled has better quality than sc-lcd
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AMOLED has better black and bright colors, but it's less clear and has problems with some colors. Mine, for example, has problems with gray: it looks terrible and it turns to red on lower brightness. AMOLEDs are also very different, one producted batch of screens can be pinkish, other one - blueish, third one - yellowish.
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AMOLED has better black and bright colors, but it's less clear and has problems with some colors. Mine, for example, has problems with gray: it looks terrible and it turns to red on lower brightness. AMOLEDs are also very different, one producted batch of screens can be pinkish, other one - blueish, third one - yellowish.
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Thats right, middle brightness is not so clear.
So I have posted a few times and returned 2 Nexus 7's for slightly off color tones purplish blue link colors on Google and innacurate whites as well as some trailing or blur. No screen lift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpqfMlWup18 I can't stand the yellowish tint from the one on the left.
Well yesterday I was at Staples with $15 gift card from trading in my used inks and I see a UPS delivery guy come through, I know from Past expereinces UPS delivers the Nexus 7 to Staples.
And So I asked if they had any new Nexus 7's at first they said no but then I pointed out the UPS delivery and a new shipment had just come in of 8GB models.
so for $199-$15= $184 I got my new Nexus 7, I would have not bought it but when I looked underneath and saw the new C80K CSSN I had to go for it.
I get home and I unbox Perfect no dead pixels, Or light bleed, today I compared it to an iPad 3 at the Apple store, and the colors are exact spot on. No off tones greens are not pale or off tint, white is white not blueish. Of course the iPad 3 colors are slightly Vibrant, but you can only tell if side by side. What I wanted was color accuracy, and previous Nexus 7's lacked that. Not sure if this is a new Hynix IPS LCD or the new ones made by SHARP, It has to be IPS by SHARP, because there is no ghosting and even touch response is faster.
Regardless, Google must have really got on ASUS's back to inspect more units per each thousand shipped. Or they sourced some better components.
thanks for the video killa.
i'm still hesitant to pick up a C80 model as some people are reporting defects with those.
maybe should wait for C90.
lol
I justed picked another one up today too and its a c80 but it still has slight screen lift on the left side. I personally dont believe this very minimal lift is a flaw. You can only tell its slightly lifted when you do the horizon test so all is good in my book!
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So I have posted a few times and returned 2 Nexus 7's for slightly off color tones purplish blue link colors on Google and innacurate whites as well as some trailing or blur. No screen lift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpqfMlWup18 I can't stand the yellowish tint from the one on the left.
Well yesterday I was at Staples with $15 gift card from trading in my used inks and I see a UPS delivery guy come through, I know from Past expereinces UPS delivers the Nexus 7 to Staples.
And So I asked if they had any new Nexus 7's at first they said no but then I pointed out the UPS delivery and a new shipment had just come in of 8GB models.
so for $199-$15= $184 I got my new Nexus 7, I would have not bought it but when I looked underneath and saw the new C80K CSSN I had to go for it.
I get home and I unbox Perfect no dead pixels, Or light bleed, today I compared it to an iPad 3 at the Apple store, and the colors are exact spot on. No off tones greens are not pale or off tint, white is white not blueish. Of course the iPad 3 colors are slightly Vibrant, but you can only tell if side by side. What I wanted was color accuracy, and previous Nexus 7's lacked that. Not sure if this is a new Hynix IPS LCD or the new ones made by SHARP, It has to be IPS by SHARP, because there is no ghosting and even touch response is faster.
Regardless, Google must have really got on ASUS's back to inspect more units per each thousand shipped. Or they sourced some better components.
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In regards to N7 screen vibrancy I think it's possible for someone to release a contrast control app. I was playing with a photo in a photo edit app and was using the contrast tweak and it is was possible achieve more contrast and made colors pop-out more. Someone serious needs to make an app.
My C80 is flawless.
I don't think there is anything different about the C8 production run.
I had screen lift, which was getting worse so I returned it.
Color production was fine for some colors, bad for some especially green (looked washed / pastel colored). White production was great on my model, blues were good as well.
Speakers were pretty bad, worked decent but at about 85-90% during video playback and music it sounded distorted / crackling.
SPreston2001 - When I received my Nexus 7, C8 I had ZERO screen lift. It gradually came and got worse. Got to the point where it was actually spongy and I could see/feel it move when pressed. Had it on the left side, and on the top left.
Well I would imagine that the don't wait until the next month to make changes. Perhaps quality changes were made in the middle of August, and some have good ones, others don't.
I just ordered mine, so I have fingers crossed.
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Well I would imagine that the don't wait until the next month to make changes. Perhaps quality changes were made in the middle of August, and some have good ones, others don't.
I just ordered mine, so I have fingers crossed.
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Lol I think people are getting their hopes up! Like 145ty said, I personally dont think any changes were made...
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Lol I think people are getting their hopes up! Like 145ty said, I personally dont think any changes were made...
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Honestly I think that too, but I was making a point that the serial just indicates the month, does not indicate that changes were made.
I would imagine that once production is in full swing and the product is released, its not easy to fix problems and keep up with demand.
I went through a number of N7s and rejected quite a few because of the yellow tint.
However, my very first N7 ordered during Google I/O had the same color quality (without the yellow tint) as my latest C7OK unit. In other words, this isn't something that's new to the C8OK, it's really the luck of the draw in general so far.
I think it must be a hit-or-miss in all production runs. My C7OK is perfect.
So let me get this straight....
Having a screen with a slightly yellowish tint - we aren't sure if that is a factory defect that warrants returning?
I only have one Nexus 7, so I can't compare it apples to apples, but I believe mine has a slightly yellowish/warm tint. To be honest I'm not too bothered by it and believe that it makes reading easier on the eyes, but if you guys think that this is a defect, I would think twice about returning it because of that.
I'm still on the fence about whether to return it because of the screen lift problem (about 1mm at most), but combined with this I would certainly think twice about whether or not I should get a later production model. It's not like I would return it because everyone says so, but I certainly don't want something defective if it would lead to problems later down the road, as I plan on having/enjoying this tablet for quite a long time.
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So let me get this straight....
Having a screen with a slightly yellowish tint - we aren't sure if that is a factory defect that warrants returning?
I only have one Nexus 7, so I can't compare it apples to apples, but I believe mine has a slightly yellowish/warm tint. To be honest I'm not too bothered by it and believe that it makes reading easier on the eyes, but if you guys think that this is a defect, I would think twice about returning it because of that.
I'm still on the fence about whether to return it because of the screen lift problem (about 1mm at most), but combined with this I would certainly think twice about whether or not I should get a later production model. It's not like I would return it because everyone says so, but I certainly don't want something defective if it would lead to problems later down the road, as I plan on having/enjoying this tablet for quite a long time.
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No I can tell you right now the c80 units look no different screenwise than earlier units. Maybe others had bad/defectives screens but my c70 looks identical to two other c80 units I just recently purchased. The color issue more likely can be corrected with software tweaks so dont sweat it. Every unit ive seen had a slight yellowish tint including the display models I played with at Staples, Walmart, Best Buy, etc. Enjoy the tablet for what it is and dont give yourself a headache by looking for reasons to return it.
I think they are all the same screens but they aren't tuned properly. Custom Kernels will tweak the color so that they pop more (Trinity does this). I notice a big difference with my screen colors by using EOS rom (comes with a Trinity kernel).
I have been through all of this with my Samsung galaxy nexus, I went through 3 of them, till i found one I liked. It still was not perfect but gave up after that, some had purple tint, one was blue tint and other had yellow tint, some had vertical banding.
I think what it comes down to with electronics specifically all these screens, no two devices will look identical. I am not 100% sure or know why.
My C80 had one dead pixel other then that worked fine, but I noticed it right away since right in center of screen, I exchanged it and this time got no dead pixels, screen looks perfect, I am sure if I look hard enough I can find something wrong somewhere but I won't because once I do hard to go back.
Here's an image of my first Nexus 6 (top) and the RMA replacement (bottom): http://i.imgur.com/wNbgFo1.jpg
As you can see, my first N6 had a pink tint across the whole screen which is why I initiated the RMA. While the replacement is better, there's still a red tint to the right half (bottom half in portrait). Actually looking at both, the reddest tints are in the right half.
I also have some bands that are dimmer than the rest of the screen which is very noticabke when scrolling but not so much if looking at a static picture.
It seems these really are using Note 3 Samsung AMOLED panels because the same complaints were posted on another thread last year.
Both devices were manufactured 11/12 if that makes any difference.
I'm just wondering how common of an issue this is. I don't think I'll RMA again for awhile as I'm just taking up devices that should be going towards fulfilling orders and my replacement is serviceable. But considering the price, I really expected better and I don't think I can stomach the flaw.
You answered your question (the very end statement). I can't really see what you're trying to show in the picture as everyone see's colors differently and not all phone displays/pc monitors are color calibrated in the same ways. GL finding the right display for your tastes. They all have compromises albeit some less than others
You don't have to have a calibrated screen to tell that the top screen is darker than the bottom screen. It's also not hard to tell that the left is lit brighter than the right on both. Whether you see pink or not may be arbitrary but that's why I put it in the description.
My original question of if anyone else is having that issue is not answered just because I found a thread on a year old phone that may or may not be using the same panel Would prefer if other owners chimed in so I don't waste my time RMAing if it's unavoidable.
But thanks for the reply.
I have the same problem, the upper part of the screen has a pink Tint and it's bugging the hell out of me, but since i've had my friend bring it with him while coming back from USA, i'm obligated to swallow up whatever defects i find in it
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You don't have to have a calibrated screen to tell that the top screen is darker than the bottom screen. It's also not hard to tell that the left is lit brighter than the right on both. Whether you see pink or not may be arbitrary but that's why I put it in the description.
My original question of if anyone else is having that issue is not answered just because I found a thread on a year old phone that may or may not be using the same panel Would prefer if other owners chimed in so I don't waste my time RMAing if it's unavoidable.
But thanks for the reply.
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My mistake. In your picture it looks like the right side of both screens is a little darker than the left.
That said, and you don't have to answer these I'm just thinking out loud here, what were your camera settings when you took the picture? What camera did you use? What screen brightness was each display set to? Could the ambient lighting in the room have affected the photo results? Could there have been inconsistencies in the results caused by the angle of the photograph taken? Those are a few of the variables that I can think of that could skew what we're all looking at.
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My mistake. In your picture it looks like the right side of both screens is a little darker than the left.
That said, and you don't have to answer these I'm just thinking out loud here, what were your camera settings when you took the picture? What camera did you use? What screen brightness was each display set to? Could the ambient lighting in the room have affected the photo results? Could there have been inconsistencies in the results caused by the angle of the photograph taken? Those are a few of the variables that I can think of that could skew what we're all looking at.
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I used a Sony NEX-5R Mirrorless DSLR. I probably didn't use the best settings (automatic with manual focus) but I was kind of in a rush to get the old one out to UPS to get the CC hold for the new one to drop off. I didn't use any special lighting, just natural day time lighting. I think the pics are pretty representative of how tinted they were though because the old one was very red heavy everywhere. I should have taken additional pictures of the home screen to compare. On the default background, the new one looks turquoisish but the old one was dark blue.
Brightness was at 50% for both and I believe I had adaptive brightness turned off. Either way it was light up much brighter than I keep it at day to day (I usually have it at 25% at most with adaptive brightness on). If I had to compare the pictures to the actual devices I'd say the camera didn't pick up enough of the red tint. So in person, it's much more red and much more obvious.
But honestly, I don't care that much about the tint as much as I do the uniformity. I can live with an all yellow tint or an all red tint if it was consistent across the whole screen. I'm sure a custom kernel will come out at some point with gamma calibration so I can adjust as I please. But the way it is, the top half of the display looks brighter than the bottom half. The easiest way to see this is by setting the keyboard to Material Dark and putting the phone in landscape. The left side of the kb will look greenish grey and the right looks darker purpleish grey.
I've not heard anything about this issue. Maybe one or 2 posts on here and reddit regarding banding. Everyone else says their screens are perfect. I was hoping people would share their pictures so I can tell if I got 2 bad screens or if they're all like that and most people just don't care.
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I used a Sony NEX-5R Mirrorless DSLR. I probably didn't use the best settings (automatic with manual focus) but I was kind of in a rush to get the old one out to UPS to get the CC hold for the new one to drop off. I didn't use any special lighting, just natural day time lighting. I think the pics are pretty representative of how tinted they were though because the old one was very red heavy everywhere. I should have taken additional pictures of the home screen to compare. On the default background, the new one looks turquoisish but the old one was dark blue.
Brightness was at 50% for both and I believe I had adaptive brightness turned off. Either way it was light up much brighter than I keep it at day to day (I usually have it at 25% at most with adaptive brightness on). If I had to compare the pictures to the actual devices I'd say the camera didn't pick up enough of the red tint. So in person, it's much more red and much more obvious.
But honestly, I don't care that much about the tint as much as I do the uniformity. I can live with an all yellow tint or an all red tint if it was consistent across the whole screen. I'm sure a custom kernel will come out at some point with gamma calibration so I can adjust as I please. But the way it is, the top half of the display looks brighter than the bottom half. The easiest way to see this is by setting the keyboard to Material Dark and putting the phone in landscape. The left side of the kb will look greenish grey and the right looks darker purpleish grey.
I've not heard anything about this issue. Maybe one or 2 posts on here and reddit regarding banding. Everyone else says their screens are perfect. I was hoping people would share their pictures so I can tell if I got 2 bad screens or if they're all like that and most people just don't care.
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I hear ya. The uniformity, or non, would bother me too
Welcome to the world of amoled. .lol The note 4 has same issue.Replaced 3 times still have pink/purple hue..If u test this image out with brightness turned down a bit you'll see darker area's on display that's causing the issue.
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Welcome to the world of amoled. .lol The note 4 has same issue.Replaced 3 times still have pink/purple hue..If u test this image out with brightness turned down a bit you'll see darker area's on display that's causing the issue.
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I can see the light / dark difference in the screen with that image, but it doesn't bother me across such a dark background because it still looks grey all over (just to different degrees). I actually find that it's much worse with light backgrounds because it doesn't look all white or light grey. The darker parts are always pinkish. It also doesn't help that Lollipop is all about white screens everywhere either
Also found out that I don't qualify for the extended holiday return, so I have until Friday to return it for a refund. I guess I'll be calling for device #3 earlier than expected and crossing my fingers.
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I can see the light / dark difference in the screen with that image, but it doesn't bother me across such a dark background because it still looks grey all over (just to different degrees). I actually find that it's much worse with light backgrounds because it doesn't look all white or light grey. The darker parts are always pinkish. It also doesn't help that Lollipop is all about white screens everywhere either
Also found out that I don't qualify for the extended holiday return, so I have until Friday to return it for a refund. I guess I'll be calling for device #3 earlier than expected and crossing my fingers.
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My note 4 looks similar to ur replacement device, the first 2 were really bad,half of bottom was really pink,2nd one the top half was really pink..This one I'm learning to deal with,it just blew my mind last night while laying down in dark messing with wallpapers and noticed all the uneven darkness on dark grey image,dark area's and faint vertical lines everywere.It appears it's from uneven distribution of glue.
I dislike the warm color on mines. Nothing is perfect, there's always something to disliked
Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents. I have had two Nexus 6 devices now, both with discoloration. Both are from ATT. The first device was darker to lighter, from left to right. Current device is darker on top, and lighter on the bottom. It is really frustrating because I love the size, and the screen is great in terms of resolution.
I am thinking about taking this one back as well and returning it. I have never had problems on my smaller devices. It bugs the crap out of me that I can tell the difference, mainly on lighter backgrounds. I don't think I can live with this phone for a year. Waiting on the M8 GPE to get lollipop might be a better solution for me.
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Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents. I have had two Nexus 6 devices now, both with discoloration. Both are from ATT. The first device was darker to lighter, from left to right. Current device is darker on top, and lighter on the bottom. It is really frustrating because I love the size, and the screen is great in terms of resolution.
I am thinking about taking this one back as well and returning it. I have never had problems on my smaller devices. It bugs the crap out of me that I can tell the difference, mainly on lighter backgrounds. I don't think I can live with this phone for a year. Waiting on the M8 GPE to get lollipop might be a better solution for me.
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Do you recall what the build date for both phones were? Not sure if it matters but couldn't hurt to collect that info.
I just called for RMA #2. Hoping it's at least not worse than the one I have now. I think I'm in agreement with you regarding just returning it and waiting until next year, but I already gave the Nexus 5 to my wife so I'd be downgrading the Nexus 4 she had before that...ouch.
Assuming the date under the sequence number on the box is manufacture date, this one looks like 11/17/14. I didn't think to check out the original device build date, but it shipped 11/18/14 from ATT online and I received it 11/20/14.
I have had my current one now for a day, Moto and ATT claim devices shipping currently shouldn't have screen issues, although my issue is different than the screen not turning on, or flickering.
I was so ready for a big phone, I am still within my 14 day return period, and I'm wondering if I should try this again to see if I can get a good one.
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Assuming the date under the sequence number on the box is manufacture date, this one looks like 11/17/14. I didn't think to check out the original device build date, but it shipped 11/18/14 from ATT online and I received it 11/20/14.
I have had my current one now for a day, Moto and ATT claim devices shipping currently shouldn't have screen issues, although my issue is different than the screen not turning on, or flickering.
I was so ready for a big phone, I am still within my 14 day return period, and I'm wondering if I should try this again to see if I can get a good one.
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Hi All,
I'm coming in late but I just got my Nexus 6 from AT&T last night. I've been using an N5 since may and haven't had any issues. I noticed this morning when opening Hangouts, Chrome or any other page that displays white as the background that on the top it has a more greenish hue and towards the bottom right it has a purplish hue. I thought it was my eyes at first because it's subtle but when I'm paying 700.00 for a device it better have a perfect screen. So I played around with the adaptive brightness, rotated it etc. It didn't look any less green to purplish. The bottom right side of the phone in portrait (to the right or the charging port in portrait at any given appropriate angle) had a more purplish hue than the top left (opposing the camera). I'll probably be going back to at&t tonight .. which sucks because I JUST got it set up how I liked it. I hate rooting anymore which is why I buy GPE devices. I could have gone with any other device and rooted and may have to get back into that game if this is how crappy this display is going to be. Also I might add that the encryption does slow the device down a little bit compared to the N5.
P.S. Ignore my sig, I need to update that..
For mine (bought from tmo) the bottom is slightly darker than the top. I only noticed when looking hard for the "link" issue. Out of all the issues I could have had, I find this the least annoying of them.
Over all I'm happy.
I just got my Nexus 6 direct from Google (one of the lucky ones) and for the first time ever, a phone screen is really bugging me. There is a tint, darker from left to right. The most expensive Nexus I've ever bought (and I've bought them all) and the worst display. Very sad.
Here's some images, one with contrast as it was hard to photograph. Much more noticeable to the naked eye.
Does anyone NOT have this issue? If so I'd rather take the chance on replacing it.
Update: Returning it for a replacement. Google kindly gave me $10 credit for the troubles.
I received my replacement. The screen seems perfect. No gradient. There are definitely some defunct ones out there, beware. Mine is going back now. I hope you don't get it.
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I received my replacement. The screen seems perfect. No gradient. There are definitely some defunct ones out there, beware. Mine is going back now. I hope you don't get it.
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Look for it... there are no perfect phones hahaha.
But congrats if you don't get annoyed with your new phone :good: