Hello all,
I am about to get a Vodafone Nexus One. It's secondhand so don't know anything about it. (As in AMOLED/SLCD, or anything about it)
The reason I got it is I just bricked my HTC Desire, flashing a corrupt fastboot N1 Partition table (Learnt my MD5 Lesson). Prior to that I had been rooting, s-off'ing flashing away, happy as can be. Not too much adb, but see I will learn more.
The main reason I'm getting an N1, is all my time was spent trying to get to FRG81, and stripped down froyo's. I regularly used a Cyanogen Mod ROM's. So why buy another Desire, and faff around with all the junk!
Do have a few question though:
I'm on T-mobile UK will I have any problems with that?
And does anyone have any tips for me prior to receiving it?
Please any advice a head of time is appreciated!
Cheers
You won't have any problem with it on Tmo. If you're planning on running stock for a bit, Voda have their own version, but its easy to bin it for Google's offering.
Thanks for that, am getting stuck in to the new reading.....
To root or not to su that is the question.
Well so different the N1 and Desire, but sure it will get easier.
nitrox1 said:
Thanks for that, am getting stuck in to the new reading.....
To root or not to su that is the question.
Well so different the N1 and Desire, but sure it will get easier.
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rooting is upto, if you need it or not
Diamond_dawg said:
rooting is upto, if you need it or not
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Root it!
It's the best thing I ever did with my Nexus. It's especially superb now you don't have to unlock the bootloader...
OK, Now I'm bootloader unlocked, and SU superpermission. But can I PVT S-Off the nexus one?
No, no real need to anyway.
No. Unlocked bootloader is the same as S-OFF for any other phone, with the only caveat - you can't relock it.
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No. Unlocked bootloader is the same as S-OFF for any other phone, with the only caveat - you can't relock it.
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Reason I ask is I am trying to install a radio .img, and need s-off. Am looking for the .zip version now.
Edit: Ok feeling quite lucky and very smug. I am now bootloader open, Superuser, running cyanogenmod (it's what I know well, will investigate others later), newest radio, and app2sd.
So nearly back to where I left my bricked desire, will start to restore my titanium/mybackup pro backup's.
Then later move on to intersectraven's havs kernel etc.
Still can't find out any more about s-off for the nexus one (As I mentioned flashing a corrupt patch for re-partitioning my desire to n1 style partitions, after already being S-Off'ed by Alpharev, is was what bricked my desire, so need help obviously ;-) ). If anyone can link me on to a page would be appreciated..
Again thanks to everyone who helps: Modaco (Again), RA-Nexus for my new grumpy care bear, Cyanogen team for an almost standardised stable exceptionable ROM, Darktremor, everyone who answers even the silliest question on XDA, and even google and HTC. Looking forward to thanking Intersectraven too.
You won't get S-OFF on a Nexus One unless it came from HTC like that. Also, you do not need S-OFF to fastboot flash your radio.
What about freehand editing apps, while using rootexplorer?
Sent from the 25th century.
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Hi!
I've got a Nexus One with HBOOT 0.33 and S-OFF. I guess it's a developer version. I'm wondering if anyone with S-OFF tried updating to HBOOT 0.35 and if their phones remained S-OFF or of they lost it. Not sure about updating just yet, but my boot partition has some bad blocks, so I guess I could benefit from it. Please let me know.
wrong section
Sorry, mods, please move this to the correct sub-forum.
I have S-ON since I updated to 0.35, but I still can flash ROMs etc.. whats the difference between S-ON and S-OFF if I still can flash ROMs and the AMON_RA Recovery still works?
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I have S-ON since I updated to 0.35, but I still can flash ROMs etc.. whats the difference between S-ON and S-OFF if I still can flash ROMs and the AMON_RA Recovery still works?
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You can relock the bootloader.
Not sure about "wrong section". My personal advise: If you haven't realized or felt the need for S-OFF its not really important, devices have a short life time, make sure you don't waste too much time on this subject as it is really for system developers.
Warranty theoretically expires by unlocking the boot loader, as for real life I haven't heard yet of a single "rejection" by HTC due an unlocked boot loader.. except if you brick your screen by dropping the device etc.
Hope this helps.
Well, I guess I'm just proud of having an S-OFF version of the phone, but no real use for it. I'll leave it for now, I guess and will let you know the result if I do update it.
completely pointless, however I think I'd feel the same ;-)
(Now sitting at a real keyboard, easier to type)
RunTimeWorld is correct, these devices do have a short life time, so it would be a shame to wast it on waiting for an answer/explanation of a small thing like S-OFF on a Nexus One. However, I figured it like this: Seeing as I can run Kang-o-Rama with IR's kernel properly on my current HBOOT/Radio config, I'm not changing it until I need to. I see that my phone frequently is checking (and finding) the HBOOT update, but we'll just see when CM7 is closer to release. All that 0.35 would profit me would be a smaller recovery partition but a larger boot partition. If I need to flash a larger kernel, I'll definitely switch.
Mine remained S-OFF after updating to .35
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Mine remained S-OFF after updating to .35
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Sounds reassuring.
Exactly how did you update to 0.35? Using the official zip file downloaded from the Google servers or through the Korean OTA/RUU?
Via the recent 2 part OTA update (not Korean).
Aha, so I guess I'll just try it then.
Success
Here's the result, for you other Nexus One owners with S-OFF. Like i said, it's pretty much only for personal pride, but it's still nice to see my phone didn't loose it's "Developer phone" status when upgrading the HBOOT.
I believe the 'developer' ones say "ENG S-OFF", not "SHIP S-OFF"... ours are freaks and probably just a mistake by HTC.
Well, I guess you could be right. Mine was bought second hand in late May 2010 from a person who's mother (the actual previous owner) works for the Swedish telecommunication company Ericsson. One can only guess that she got it at some Google event or something similar. Anyway, I'm quite pleased to have something special.
OK so I downloaded OTA_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.12.405.7-1.36.405.1_release_1877251m0fkulovs00nwzq.zip
From here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063062
Now is it safe to do a manual install by going into recovery?
My Incredible S is S-ON from Bell stock ROM.
Please let me know! Thanks!
Couldn't wait... tried it
Got an error saying "Invalid Operation" and automatically reboots.
Damnit!
Rename to pb32img.zip (or pg see downgrade guide in dev) and than boot to hboot, could do the trick. If that doesn't work you have to install by the ruu and perhaps a goldcard.
Greets
Help me understand what this ROM is.
What I am assuming is that this is an official unbranded/unmodified ROM directly from HTC with no carrier modifications. That means it has no carrier-specific apps? I would imagine this is the best ROM to install for those with unlocked devices or who wish to be rid of any carrier bloatware?
Who gets this update over-the-air? Did they purchase a factory unlocked Incredible S directly from HTC?
I've seen a lot of people asking, but have yet to see an answer posted. Has anybody succeeded in installing the WWE OTA update on an S-On Bell IS? Is a goldcard required? Also, is there a radio difference between Bell IS and European IS, since they use different bands? And lastly, if so, does it cause any noticeable issues?
I'd like to try it, but was wondering if anybody else had first!
I tried could not on bell
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Yeah I have a Bell Incredible S that I unlocked to use on MTS... so what could Bell have done exactly that would prevent goldcards from working?
hi i also have an IS on the bell network as well. however my phone is unlocked and i am currently using it on rogers so im guessing i'll never get the udate. and i have no other option rather than to manually intall it. so i would also like to try this, at least to see if it will work on my device. im just wandering how to go about in doing this. if you could give me a step by step instruction, i would appreciate it. let me know if i need tools like a gold card or something as such. thank you.
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hi i also have an IS on the bell network as well. however my phone is unlocked and i am currently using it on rogers so im guessing i'll never get the udate. and i have no other option rather than to manually intall it. so i would also like to try this, at least to see if it will work on my device. im just wandering how to go about in doing this. if you could give me a step by step instruction, i would appreciate it. let me know if i need tools like a gold card or something as such. thank you.
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All the information is in thread in the Android development section. Just look it up!
So I just s-offed using Alpha rev last nigh and then rooted using gingerbreak. I've been able to flash both Android Rev. and Unity but in both cases I lose any incall earpiece or speaker sound when attempting a call. speaker works for music and slacker. Anyone else seeing this issue. I've not flashed a new radio in both cases
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So I just s-offed using Alpha rev last nigh and then rooted using gingerbreak. I've been able to flash both Android Rev. and Unity but in both cases I lose any incall earpiece or speaker sound when attempting a call. speaker works for music and slacker. Anyone else seeing this issue. I've not flashed a new radio in both cases
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i had the same issue; you need to flash the Gingerbread radio recommended in the respective ROM threads and you'll be good to go.
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i had the same issue; you need to flash the Gingerbread radio recommended in the respective ROM threads and you'll be good to go.
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Can this be done without the ENG HBOOT?
Don't you need a S-Off Radio for that? Only way I know to do that is the XTC Clip
ohh geez, in order for getting ENG HBOOT we need radio S-OFF, and software solution isnt up yet... lucky my stock radio matches the android rev radio
my AlphaRev keeps hanging at Acquring Root (method 2)
I seriously hate this Incredible S, after Gingerbread i've not nothing but trouble.
all I want to do is flash it to the different Aus Carrier Rom cos that has no issues apparently.
other than smashing the phone with a hammer, which I've done numerous times before, why is AlphaRev being a c**t?
I have an Asia Rom, apparently that causes trouble.
MADCV said:
my AlphaRev keeps hanging at Acquring Root (method 2)
I seriously hate this Incredible S, after Gingerbread i've not nothing but trouble.
all I want to do is flash it to the different Aus Carrier Rom cos that has no issues apparently.
other than smashing the phone with a hammer, which I've done numerous times before, why is AlphaRev being a c**t?
I have an Asia Rom, apparently that causes trouble.
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Yes it is the asian rom because apparently gingerbreak is patched, you need to flash the optus or virgin or wwe rom using a goldcard, search in google how to create a goldcard.
first you flash virgin or wwe gb ruu
than you s-off
than birds make love, and we all happy..
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first you flash virgin or wwe gb ruu
than you s-off
than birds make love, and we all happy..
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I've tried that and no way has worked.
Plus I can't flash things with the S-On, hence me using this Alpha-Rev thing to get S-Off.
Ignoring that I still have S-on, since Alpha-Rev does nothing,
the RUU I downloaded, and I've down loaded 3 different AUS ones, gets to a certain point then says Error 131.
thats the official way.
or if I do it the "Volume Down/Power Button" with the renamed Zips on the SD Card
it loads and then says "Error, reboot" in a red font.
I seriously hate this phone.
It takes me 2 seconds to reflash a Nokia.
***Update***
Disregard, Alpha-Rev doesn't work on my Asia Rom, so i'm going to smash it with a small hammer and go back to my iphones and Nokias
You're going to go back to iphone which you can't flash? Relax a bit and actually search to solve your problem which you hijacked this thread for.
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well no one was any help so yeah, looks like its back to Nokia for me
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well no one was any help so yeah, looks like its back to Nokia for me
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Dude stop having a hissy fit and do some research, i too was a newbie but spending some time has taught me alot of things.
You don't need to be s-off to flash an ruu, i did it and it worked you just have to spend some time and do it properly.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-make-gold-card-for-htc-desire-hd/
Make a goldcard first, then put it in your phone and flash the ruu.
Then you should be able to use alpharevx
I am trying to work out whether to OTA update to ICS or go S-OFF, unlock and load a custom ROM.
I'm currently running locked BL, S-ON, Stock 2.3.5 (Sense 3.0) ROM.
I have read up on downgrading HBOOT to get S-OFF via revolutionary but I got HBOOT 2.01.0001 and haven't been able to find any thread saying whether tacoexploit works. I know if I OTA upgrade to ICS, and HBOOT 2.02.0000, I will only be able to unlock BL via HTCDEV and will not able to get full S-OFF until someone comes up with a method.
I have unlocked and flashed custom recovery/ROMs/Radios etc. on ZTE Blade, ZTE Skate, Motorola Atrix and HTC Desire (damn, I love 4Ext) without any problems but still consider myself a noob because, well you know, if you don't build your own ROMs...
I still have about a year or so on the warranty and custom ROMs always seem to have some kind of problem. So I just can't make my mind up as to what would be the right move.
Please, any info, suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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I am trying to work out whether to OTA update to ICS or go S-OFF, unlock and load a custom ROM.
I'm currently running locked BL, S-ON, Stock 2.3.5 (Sense 3.0) ROM.
I have read up on downgrading HBOOT to get S-OFF via revolutionary but I got HBOOT 2.01.0001 and haven't been able to find any thread saying whether tacoexploit works. I know if I OTA upgrade to ICS, and HBOOT 2.02.0000, I will only be able to unlock BL via HTCDEV and will not able to get full S-OFF until someone comes up with a method.
I have unlocked and flashed custom recovery/ROMs/Radios etc. on ZTE Blade, ZTE Skate, Motorola Atrix and HTC Desire (damn, I love 4Ext) without any problems but still consider myself a noob because, well you know, if you don't build your own ROMs...
I still have about a year or so on the warranty and custom ROMs always seem to have some kind of problem. So I just can't make my mind up as to what would be the right move.
Please, any info, suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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you can always try run this downgrader here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913 i would s off now because there might not be another exploit found for a very long time. you can always install a stock rooted rom through recovery. theres a thread on the development thread. thats if you still want stock rom.
gandalf_grey91 said:
I am trying to work out whether to OTA update to ICS or go S-OFF, unlock and load a custom ROM.
I'm currently running locked BL, S-ON, Stock 2.3.5 (Sense 3.0) ROM.
I have read up on downgrading HBOOT to get S-OFF via revolutionary but I got HBOOT 2.01.0001 and haven't been able to find any thread saying whether tacoexploit works. I know if I OTA upgrade to ICS, and HBOOT 2.02.0000, I will only be able to unlock BL via HTCDEV and will not able to get full S-OFF until someone comes up with a method.
I have unlocked and flashed custom recovery/ROMs/Radios etc. on ZTE Blade, ZTE Skate, Motorola Atrix and HTC Desire (damn, I love 4Ext) without any problems but still consider myself a noob because, well you know, if you don't build your own ROMs...
I still have about a year or so on the warranty and custom ROMs always seem to have some kind of problem. So I just can't make my mind up as to what would be the right move.
Please, any info, suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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The script and tacoroot exploit still work with HBOOT 2.01.0001, so you should be good to go.
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you can always try run this downgrader here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913 i would s off now because there might not be another exploit found for a very long time. you can always install a stock rooted rom through recovery. theres a thread on the development thread. thats if you still want stock rom.
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Yeah, that is my fear, it may be a long time before an exploit is found for the latest HBOOT. I also figure that there will never be an official JB ROM update from HTC for the beloved Inc S. While I have maintain my warranty for as long as I have, it does feel like the right time to fully unlock. My Inc S has never given me any trouble at all, so I'm not worried about losing the warranty. I just love the phone and want to keep it working well for as long a possible. ROM-wise, I think ARHD looks stock enough to be super stable and tweaked enough to be nice and slick.
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The script and tacoroot exploit still work with HBOOT 2.01.0001, so you should be good to go.
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Many Thanks for putting my mind at rest. That is what I needed to confirm before I started.
I did the downgrade from the latest ota and it worked perfectly
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Hello!
I've decided I want to turn my HTC One (International version) into a Google Play edition. I've watched a bunch of videos, and went for it. Everything went fine until the step where I should get S-off. I've tried quite a few tools, but just get an error that my version is not going to get S-off.
I have seen people been able to work around using CM11, but from what I've understood, you need S-off to write anything to /boot, which is where I presume CM11 would be flashed. So, am I missing anything important? Is there a workaround if my phone has HBOOT 1.57, and not S-off already? I hope someone can help me!
TL;DR: My phone is unlocked and rooted, but I can't get S-off using any of the most popular tools. My HBOOT is version 1.57.
I hope someone smarter than me is able to help me! If you need more information, please leave a reply and I'll get all the information I'm able to.
In advance, thanks!
Kcdyb
No, you can flash cm11 with s-on. You have to have a custom recovery with which to do it, though. I don't know which tutorial you're using, but it should have a section where you flash the recovery after the bootloader is unlocked. If your bootloader is still locked, then... Are you rooted?
I'm pretty new to HTC, I just came off of samsung, and they seem straightforward and simple by comparison, but with s-off, it seems like there's more room for customization with HTC phones...
Anyway, I found that TWRP won't flash cm11, but Philz_touch will. If you're rooted, grab rashr off the play store and you can flash both of these recoveries right from your phone. I'd go with TWRP 2.6.3.0, though, since the latest didn't like my backups.
Then once those are installed, you boot into bootloader and volume down to Recovery and it'll pop up in a few seconds where you can take backups (<--DO THIS!) and flash new roms and kernels and such.
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Hello!
I've decided I want to turn my HTC One (International version) into a Google Play edition. I've watched a bunch of videos, and went for it. Everything went fine until the step where I should get S-off. I've tried quite a few tools, but just get an error that my version is not going to get S-off.
I have seen people been able to work around using CM11, but from what I've understood, you need S-off to write anything to /boot, which is where I presume CM11 would be flashed. So, am I missing anything important? Is there a workaround if my phone has HBOOT 1.57, and not S-off already? I hope someone can help me!
TL;DR: My phone is unlocked and rooted, but I can't get S-off using any of the most popular tools. My HBOOT is version 1.57.
I hope someone smarter than me is able to help me! If you need more information, please leave a reply and I'll get all the information I'm able to.
In advance, thanks!
Kcdyb
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Have you tried Sunshine S-OFF, it will cost $25 but it is worth it. Once you get S-OFF you can change your CID & MID then flash the GPe RUU or ROM.
Thanks a lot for your replies!
I have actively tried figuring this out alongside reading for my exam today, and recently found and interesting option to work around S-on. My total goal is getting GPE Lollipop on my HTC, and I just now found a thread discussing using a backup from OPs phone. According to many users in the thread, they have been able to recover this backup and successfully run Lollipop with S-on. I did consider buying Sunshine, but due to finding the backup-option, I wanna try the free alternatives first. My goal is like I said running GPE, and I will most likely not install other roms on my phone.
My phone has an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery CWM v6.0.4.8, and my phone is rooted with SuperSU v2.37 at the moment. This might change some since I'm trying to recover a specific backup as my current tactic.
Your replies have definitely added to my understanding of the workarounds, and are much appreciated. If the backup-method don't work, I will try your methods!
PS: I posted in the backup-thread asking some questions. I'm posting my link here to string them both together in case someone else looks for an solution to the same problem I had.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc...ackup-twrp-t2963308/post57357202#post57357202