I was just wondering if a white background would consume more power than a black background for the theme settings.. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
MantisBoy said:
I was just wondering if a white background would consume more power than a black background for the theme settings.. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Depends on what phone you are using. The samsung and dell with their samoled screen consume more power with a white background. The htc phones are using s-lcd which means it doesn't matter if it is white or black. I prefer the white background on my HD7 it looks nicer.
Oh cool.. Im using a HD7.. Was using black in thinking that it will prolong battery life.. Now that you mention that, i'm switching to white =) Thanks =)
Black looks best.
I like black but it annoys me that the fonts on black look horrible. For instance, in settings, the small fonts distort when scrolling up and down. This doesn't occur on white. Nor does it occur on the Omnia 7 even when on black. So perhaps this is a HD7 issue, or perhaps it is just my HD7. Am interested to know if others have noticed it.
I hadn't noticed that. Now I'm bugged by it. Thanks.
digime said:
I hadn't noticed that. Now I'm bugged by it. Thanks.
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LOL.. Infectious thoughts.. =)
On side note does anyone have their notification LED on when there's a text message? I only have the LED on when i have missed calls..
pr0ph said:
I like black but it annoys me that the fonts on black look horrible. For instance, in settings, the small fonts distort when scrolling up and down. This doesn't occur on white. Nor does it occur on the Omnia 7 even when on black. So perhaps this is a HD7 issue, or perhaps it is just my HD7. Am interested to know if others have noticed it.
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Could you elaborate on this distorting text? I haven't noticed anything on my HD7 with black background. Text looks wonderful on this screen and Windows Phone 7.
prjkthack said:
Could you elaborate on this distorting text? I haven't noticed anything on my HD7 with black background. Text looks wonderful on this screen and Windows Phone 7.
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just open the Settings page and scroll up and down slowly. Notice how the small subtext is a lot tougher to read while scrolling. That's what he is referring to I believe.
The text issue is called "ghosting" and is due to the low quality LCD panel on the HD7, which has a very low pixel response time.
It bugged me a lot on a black background. It's not noticeable on white.
Yep, as the other guys say. A better description than my original one is that the text has a "shimmer" when scrolling. It sort of fades out.
Rather than it being a panel issue, I think is might be a cleartype or font smoothing type of issue. Later on I'll do up a bitmap image with some text on it, and see if the problem occurs. If yes then it's a crap panel and if no then maybe fonts/cleartype/software and hope.
Another problem with the black background is you do see the backlight ever so slightly. Yes, I knew this, when I (now somewhat regretfully) chose it over the Omnia 7. Be good if Microsoft gave us more colour options, I'd probably use a very dark grey if available. My £99 ZTE Blade has far nicer blacks than my HD7 Sorry to rant. No need to flame. I think the HD7 will be the great WP7 hacker/modder device and this alone is enough for me.
I created a bitmap and emailed it to myself. The shimmering effect did occur when moving around. So it does seem like a screen or a screen driver problem, and nothing to do with fonts and the like.
MantisBoy said:
I was just wondering if a white background would consume more power than a black background for the theme settings.. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Here's your answer. Enjoy whatever color you want.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Google-Israel-Goes-Black-to-Support-Earth-Hour
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I created a bitmap and emailed it to myself. The shimmering effect did occur when moving around. So it does seem like a screen or a screen driver problem, and nothing to do with fonts and the like.
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I thought it was because grey on black has less contrast than grey on white. Could you do the same but instead of grey use white.
I have just again compared the scrolling of the settings page on my HD7 with my Trophy and there is a huge difference!!
On the Trophy's SLCD screen there is no ghosting and everything just flows and stays readable all the time.
Everything is just so much more vivid and vibrant on the Trophy !
It is indeed a shame that HTC have not used a SLCD screen for their flagship model
I've stayed with white I tried black for a bit but it did not look as contrasty as hoped.
Sorry tbk21, I can't try it as I sold the phone. Got loads of interest on Gumtree. HD7 is not the one for me. The speakers, the screen and the slow loading of sdcards. Sticking with my clunky Android for now. Maybe I'll be back for the second wave of WP7 phones.
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Hey guys,
I've got a brand new HTC Touch Diamond. On certain screens in particular the Contacts, Messaging, SMS or the screen to select the Avatar for farvourite People, there seems to be a colour gradient on the screen in that the right portion of my screen is towards the grey shade wherelse the left portion is whiter in colour. Is this part of the theme or a standard feature or is this a defect on my unit?
The thing is I don't get this issue on the 'Align Screen' screen which has a similar white background, nor do I get this gradient on Program and Settings menus.
Could someone please help me confirm?
Thanks.
Cheers.
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Pls help???
I called HTC regarding this issue and they told me it's just part of the graphics theme but I'm not entirely convinced though...
Thanks.
happyguy82 said:
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Pls help???
I called HTC regarding this issue and they told me it's just part of the graphics theme but I'm not entirely convinced though...
Thanks.
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You could try taking a screenshot and copy that to your computer. If the gradient appears there then its a part of the graphics in the theme.. But if it does not appear on the screenshot on the pc. then you can consider it as a failure.
I checked contacts (touchflo) -> all people (left softkey), and yeah there's a slight gradient from white to a very very light grey. (Going from left to right)
Thanks so much for the great help guys..... I'll take a screenshot later just to confirm the issue....
A simple test is, go to settings > today,...and change theme to Windows Mobile Default / Green. See if the light grey change to fade blue / green?
I can confirm 99.9% is the theme....
it is normal....
crash74:
Thanks. Yes I've tried that before starting this thread. The gradient does follow the theme colour but I thought it was a backlight issue.. i.e. that portion of the screen not lit properly hence it appears darker regardless of the theme's colour.
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crash74:
Thanks. Yes I've tried that before starting this thread. The gradient does follow the theme colour but I thought it was a backlight issue.. i.e. that portion of the screen not lit properly hence it appears darker regardless of the theme's colour.
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then you fire up word mobile, and create a new document.
You should have a full white background......
crash74:
Yes tried that.. I don't get the gradient on white pages such as the 'Align Screen' page, documents, IE, even the b/g of Programs and Settings looks perfect.
So it's safe to assume I don't have to send my unit back for warranty yeah? I just wanted to be sure before sticking my invisibleSHIELD on
btw, what screen/body protector are you using? I might have a spare invisibleSHIELD if you're interested.
happyguy82 said:
crash74:
Yes tried that.. I don't get the gradient on white pages such as the 'Align Screen' page, documents, IE, even the b/g of Programs and Settings looks perfect.
So it's safe to assume I don't have to send my unit back for warranty yeah? I just wanted to be sure before sticking my invisibleSHIELD on
btw, what screen/body protector are you using? I might have a spare invisibleSHIELD if you're interested.
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That should be the theme issue....
you can try UITweaker,
go to TdyScheme Changer > change all the 4 list(left 1 & 2 + right 1 & 2) color to white...
cheers,...
I tried taking the a few screenshots and yes the gradient is there when viewed from the PC as well although less apparent. But yeah it's definitely the theme then.
When I was on the phone with HTC the girl also advised me to have my phone sent in to be checked... until I asked her "shouldn't you confirm this isn't normal before we proceed further"? lol
I can't take a photo of my screen but I clearly see horizontal banding in black-on-white text pages...they're like this:
text-text-text-text-banding-banding-banding
text-text-banding-banding-banding-banding
text-text-text-text-text-text-text-text-banding
and so on...sorry for this weird explaination but couldn't find a way to describe them since english is not my mother language....
those stripes are white, more white than the page background...
i took a screenshot, and viewed it on the pc...no white stripes there, so it's not software related ...
anyone else have/had this issue????
send to htc is the only solution? (obviously it has unlocked bootloader)
yes this has been discussed before. the best example is when viewing google's forums, you can see alternating bands that line up with all the text rows. and in between is pure white, while the text rows show slightly darker.
that's just the way it is for now. no fix has ever been released.
thanks for the answer =)
so is my phone defective or is it like that for every nexus out there?
EDIT: sidenote-to me it's the exact opposite, the stripes where text sits are more white than the rest of the white background that is a little darker
So, maybe its just me, but i notice that my nook, on any rom, does not seem to do well when displaying images that have subtle gradients. i have attached an image that i wanted to use for my background - it looks great on screen, but like crap on the nook. Anyone else notice this? I love the screen in general, but looking at that image makes it feel like i am using an 8-bit screen...
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So, maybe its just me, but i notice that my nook, on any rom, does not seem to do well when displaying images that have subtle gradients. i have attached an image that i wanted to use for my background - it looks great on screen, but like crap on the nook. Anyone else notice this? I love the screen in general, but looking at that image makes it feel like i am using an 8-bit screen...
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I've found it can display images fine, but that when setting it as the wallpaper it messes up the gradient and also tends to make the image blurry, as though its changing the resolution (despite the image being 1200x1024 or whatever its suppose to be(possibly 1024x1200)
Color Banding with live wallpapers enabled
Hijacking this thread.
Is anyone else noticing color banding on NC with live wallpapers enabled?
For example, take a look at your desktop with the two settings:
1. Livewallpaper + analog clock widget
2. Regular wallpaper + analog clock widget
The clock displays horrible banding in test case #1. I tested this on 7.0.3. stable and several nightlies since. I've see a few posts on this in the other device forums but most of them seem to be issues with the supported bit depth of the actual screen itself or wallpapers in general so I wasn't sure if they were applicable.
Is this an Android issue or an issue with the rom? Something else?
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I've found it can display images fine, but that when setting it as the wallpaper it messes up...
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I recommend Wallpaper Set and Save, free in the Market, to fix that problem.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.android.wallpapersetandsave
It's a funny old app, made for Cupcake I think and hasn't been changed since then. The UI is small and kind of odd looking. Changing the default settings won't stick on my Nook Color. It really wants your wallpaper to be in SDCard/wallpapers. So it barely works, but it does make wallpaper look better.
Thanks for the suggestion. I've tried that app before but it looked like it was only for regular wallpapers (where I'm not really seeing the banding)? That or I'm dense and overlooking something.
Also where are the stock wallpapers normally stored on cm7 install?
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You know, there were a lot of people who noticed banding on the HD2 roms, and it did seem to vary between various roms. I never really noticed it (perhaps I used the good roms), so didn't follow it much, and couldn't say if there was a fix. But, there should be many threads on it in the HD2 android section.
I've also noticed pretty severe banding in gradients for both jpeg and png images.
Divine_Madcat said:
So, maybe its just me, but i notice that my nook, on any rom, does not seem to do well when displaying images that have subtle gradients. i have attached an image that i wanted to use for my background - it looks great on screen, but like crap on the nook. Anyone else notice this? I love the screen in general, but looking at that image makes it feel like i am using an 8-bit screen...
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As said, use something besides Gallery and it'll look fine. I use Wall Switcher and have some 20 jpg's in a directory and it switches 'em every 15 minutes, but there are lots of options.
It's not the NC, the ROM... it's the app you're using to set the background.
Just to clarify, the entire desktop starts exhibiting banding (icons, Widgets) and not just the desktop background. Almost as if the os is switching color depth. Can you guys reproduce this on your cm7 installs? Maybe I need to post screens or something.
This ONLY happens when I select a livewallpaper. Regular wallpapers dont affect the widgets and desktop icons like this. If its a matter or how im setting the live wallpaper, How do you set a live wallpaper using gallery or any other apps? What directory are they stored? Thanks.
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7 replies and not one person mentions that the nook's screen is only 16 bit... of course there will be gradients, its a small issue and when I noticed it with a space themed background went ''meh'', and used a different one.
Kokanee483 said:
7 replies and not one person mentions that the nook's screen is only 16 bit... of course there will be gradients, its a small issue and when I noticed it with a space themed background went ''meh'', and used a different one.
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Ah. Well that would make more sense. I always thought the display was 24-bit because people are always comparing it to the Ipad screen. The clock does look distractingly bad though haha...maybe I'm just anal.
Just added some screenshots using the Grass Live Wallpaper versus one of the stock CM7 ones. For posterity.
Go to the app store and download "Large Image Viewer" it will solve all your problems. The nook color screen is an IPS display, the same as the ipad and much better than other andriod tablets. Large Image Viewer is a very fast hi res viewer and no, I am in no way affiated with them.
Tom
tommewborn said:
Go to the app store and download "Large Image Viewer" it will solve all your problems. The nook color screen is an IPS display, the same as the ipad and much better than other andriod tablets. Large Image Viewer is a very fast hi res viewer and no, I am in no way affiated with them.
Tom
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Errr...thanks but how is that related to this thread? haha
Dalingrin's OC kernels are 16-bit, stock is 24-bit. It's about that simple.
I campaigned for a way to switch live, and at one point he considered just such a kernel mod but I don't think it ever went anywhere.
Rodney
rhester72 said:
Dalingrin's OC kernels are 16-bit, stock is 24-bit. It's about that simple.
I campaigned for a way to switch live, and at one point he considered just such a kernel mod but I don't think it ever went anywhere.
Rodney
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Finally some info related to my question. Going back to the stock kernel fixed the banding issue with live wallpapers. Thank you! If anyone else is interested...details are in the OC Kernel thread (search banding, color bit depth, etc.). Wish this was explicitly stated in the OC kernel OP.
Live Wallpaper Banding
Divine_Madcat said:
So, maybe its just me, but i notice that my nook, on any rom, does not seem to do well when displaying images that have subtle gradients. i have attached an image that i wanted to use for my background - it looks great on screen, but like crap on the nook. Anyone else notice this? I love the screen in general, but looking at that image makes it feel like i am using an 8-bit screen...
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I'm noticing the same thing. The screen seems to handle gradients in regular wallpapers fine, but gradients in Live Wallpapers look horrible. Like someone stated it's like it's changing bit-depth. I'm on a stock, totally virgin Nook Color. Does anyone know how to work around this? I'm building Live Wallpapers and what looks fine on other devices looks terrible on the Color.
So i have been trying to get a black background that is truly black.
everything i have tried has left a slight hue on the background. back 2 black is not supported or i would have tried that.
is there any way to get background to remain off completely and only light the pixels for the icons, clock, notification etc etc. i notice the info bar at the top is darker than my black background and no matter what i cant get the background to go completely black.
my reasoning is if i make the icons into line art, and keep as much of the screen off wherever i can i can stretch battery life even further. it worked wonders on my gs2. But having a slightly glowing background ruins all that.
I'm not sure whether it's supported, but you can try making a monochrome bitmap-file (.bmp) in MsPaint. At least you are sure this way that the black is truly black.
Have you tried using different launchers? Are you sure the hue is not just your icons giving some 'bleeding'?
thanks, i will give that a try.
its the same with go launcher and touchwiz. its actually magnified on the lockscreen showing lots of banding.
Try this pic. I use it on mine and looks black
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bundles said:
thanks, i will give that a try.
its the same with go launcher and touchwiz. its actually magnified on the lockscreen showing lots of banding.
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My first Note did this so I sent it back. My new one does not do it.
still no luck, apps with black backgrounds look fine.
i tried an all black bitmap and that didnt work either.
is there any way to turn background off and just leave it blank? would that give me a pure black background?
like i said i dont think its a hardware problem since the app backgrounds look deep black unlike the wallpaper. i did see something about the note only being 16 bit and that was causing weird display issues due to scaling or something, blah blah.
its using 24bits
thats right, the note is 24 bit and the os operates in 16 bit currently, right? either way i need to find a way to fix it.
I used a plain black GIF. Works fine for the home screen background, but on lock screen it has barely noticeable dark gray lines in it until you touch it and the unlock symbol appears.
here is the one i made
this black is one color 24 bit png on my note it is completely black at any brightness. let me know if it works. 800 x 1280 black correct dpi blackground
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?gcufvpft3yawf6p
or download "no wallpaper" from the market - simple app that just adds a wallpaper that is totally black. Works a treat.
Try an app called COLOURS by Tim Clark
Probably going to get slated for this but...
Is there an anything that can tone down the colours on the screen? Specifically the blues and oranges as i find them too much.
I've lowered the brightness to lower than stock using an app, which helps a lot.
Any app or maybe a theme that reduces the saturation would be great. I've done a search but cant find anything
have you tried Settings Display Screen mode and setting it to Normal or Movie?
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Yeah sorry, should have mentioned i have it set on movie as this tones it down compared to the other settings.
Have a look and try...hope this help
1) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa&hl=en
2) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bero.tools.screentintadjuster
3) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.haxor&hl=en
thanks for those, i have tried two of them already.
It did make me try the contrast on the first one again though and this tones down the colour a bit more and is making it much more acceptable to my eyes.
I'm starting to wonder if the screen is right on my tab, some of the blues look rather purple, like the facebook blue. Also the google.co.uk page the blue looks decidedly purple. Also if i tilt the screen there is a slight blue to it.