So now that I lured you in with my snazzy thread title I will hit you with the boring stuff. Im just lost on all the ROM Flash OCLF Kernel Lingo. I want to go to Froyo and currently have 2.1 with Voodoo. There doesnt seem to be any SOLID thread that gives you simple instructions on what it does, how to do it, etc.
I read somewhere that if you have the Voodoo on the phone currently you have to flash back to the stock ROM. Other thread dont really touch on if you have to flash back or if you just do the upgrade.
Second, what is going to be lost in the process. Again I see some thread that say you have to do a Master Delete that will erase everything on the phone then some are not clear if you have to erase everything. If you do have to wipe it clean what are you guys using the back up all your apps? I did a backup with ROM Manager last night as well as a App Backup with Astro. But where do the backed up files go? Is it smart enough to drop them on the external SD card?
I hate to post such a general question but I am just getting overwhelmed reading 6 million different threads about different versions that do different things.
Disable voodoo by creating a folder in the voodoo directory "disable-lagfix" (without quotes), reboot (this will take a while). When that is fine download Titanium Backup and use that to backup all your apps + data. Copy the Titanium Backup folder to your external sd card. Backup all the data you want on your internal sd card. Flash back to stock and do a master clear (enable usb debugging first), root and install RM/CWM, copy over the rom you want to flash to the internal sd card (DO NOT RENAME). Power off the phone remove your sim card and sd card. Boot into CWM and flash your rom.
ps. Make sure your battery is fully charged.
Let me know if I missed anything. Swyping this before bio class.
Edit: Do NOT restore system data
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Disable voodoo by creating a folder in the voodoo directory "disable-lagfix" (without quotes), reboot (this will take a while). When that is fine download Titanium Backup and use that to backup all your apps + data. Copy the Titanium Backup folder to your external sd card. Backup all the data you want on your internal sd card. Flash back to stock and do a master clear (enable usb debugging first), root and install RM/CWM, copy over the rom you want to flash to the internal sd card (DO NOT RENAME). Power off the phone remove your sim card and sd card. Boot into CWM and flash your rom.
ps. Make sure your battery is fully charged.
Let me know if I missed anything. Swyping this before bio class.
Edit: Do NOT restore system data
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Thanks a ton! Thats exactly what I needed to get it all straight.
curti.nogg said:
Disable voodoo by creating a folder in the voodoo directory "disable-lagfix" (without quotes), reboot (this will take a while). When that is fine download Titanium Backup and use that to backup all your apps + data. Copy the Titanium Backup folder to your external sd card. Backup all the data you want on your internal sd card. Flash back to stock and do a master clear (enable usb debugging first), root and install RM/CWM, copy over the rom you want to flash to the internal sd card (DO NOT RENAME). Power off the phone remove your sim card and sd card. Boot into CWM and flash your rom.
ps. Make sure your battery is fully charged.
Let me know if I missed anything. Swyping this before bio class.
Edit: Do NOT restore system data
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What he said. Also if you are new to flashing I would advise looking into the cognition thread. It is definitely the easiest and most user friendly rom. And actually if you are coming from 2.1 all you should need to do is disable the lagfix by above named method, and one click to stock using odin. Also can be found in cognition thread somewhere. Then flash. I have never had to do a master clear. And have never had even a minor problem with either odin flashes or CWM. This just would save a little time but by all means if you wanna stay safe as can be do a master clear.
Thanks. I got the Cognition rom loaded up and is working well. Although It is missing swype which I miss.
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Thanks. I got the Cognition rom loaded up and is working well. Although It is missing swype which I miss.
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Huh? All my Cognition versions had swype.
Swyping....read at your own risk
I second that, I have always had swype as well. I know this sounds obvious and I am sure you have already tried this but cog sets the default as android keyboard try switching the input by long pressing the input box.
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Might have to go into settings, locale and text and enable it. Not sure, never used it, but I have to do that for smart keyboard. It's a thought.
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Hi, Im trying to exchange my phone and Im having issues with getting the phone bone stock. I used odin 1 click, did a factory data reset, and all my pictures, app folders and various other things are still on the internal SD card. I was using titanium backup, I think thats the cause (not sure though)
I also just flashed JH3, super rooter, and the OC kernel. But as far as I can tell, those are back to factory. I just cant wipe all my data and I dont know if doing it manually will clear up everything.
Suggestions/questions? Thanks!
I even tried the master clear. I can still see files for shootme, sl4a, clockworkmod, update.zip's, and tons of other folders including busybox
Did you try connecting your phone to your computer, mounting the sd card, then open the driver than your sd card is on and manually delete the files that way? You can move the titanium back up to an external sd card and see if that helps.
Go to Titanium Backup support and shoot them a pm, they got back to me within a day when I had questions if you think it's related to that.
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Did you try connecting your phone to your computer, mounting the sd card, then open the driver than your sd card is on and manually delete the files that way? You can move the titanium back up to an external sd card and see if that helps.
Go to Titanium Backup support and shoot them a pm, they got back to me within a day when I had questions if you think it's related to that.
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I can do that, But what Im worried about is all the application data (including data for apps that require root) wont be deleted. Im not sure exactly what I would have to do to remove that as well. I wanted to leave it there, so that if I did manage to wipe it, Id know for sure everything was gone.
Ill also try sending them a message. Is it on that forum site they link to? Its not very clear as to how to contact them
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I can do that, But what Im worried about is all the application data (including data for apps that require root) wont be deleted. Im not sure exactly what I would have to do to remove that as well. I wanted to leave it there, so that if I did manage to wipe it, Id know for sure everything was gone.
Ill also try sending them a message. Is it on that forum site they link to? Its not very clear as to how to contact them
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http://forum.legendroid.com/titanium-backup-official-support/
I pm'd Shazd, I have the pro donated version so I had everything backed up, moved the folder for Titanium Backup and the folder for Titanium license to my exteral card. Then I flashed with Odin to stock and swapped my phone for a new one. Then I put the sd card in the new phone, connected to my computer and moved the files to the internal sd, installed Titanium from the market and when it installed my entire backup was there, settings, apps, and data were all there. I did a restore and everything was just as my old phone. Then I installed Unleash The Beast, the cool battery indicator, thanks to Designgears and the rest is history. When I flashed with Odin, all evidence of root were gone. AT&T didn't even check the phone, all I said was random shutdowns and a crack in the screen and they swapped it.
I have the paid donate version as well. I mean, I have the backup saved to my microsd and on my computer, Its just weird, I mean for some reason its not wiping. Im literally trying everything. I had a backup with clockwork mod and I re-rooted with 1 click root so that I could run that... It may be super rooter, Im starting to think thats more the case. But I really am just stumped
I flashed with Odin3 one click, maybe that's the difference. What did you use exactly?
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I flashed with Odin3 one click, maybe that's the difference. What did you use exactly?
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Both versions lol. 1-click and version 1.0 or whatever by flashing the stock firmware Jh6 from samsung-firmwares.com. I even tried a factory data reset
It may just be files in my internal SD card themselves that arent being deleted... but Im not really sure
It didn't wipe all of my info when I did master clear and then doing the one click wipe. I'm bit sure why it wouldn't either but it did remove most of what I wanted gone.
Sweet life
Huh... Well I did a bunch of clear cache things, wiped my internal sd, and went throught my phone with root explorer and deleted whatever else I found. Wow that was a huge hassle
I think the best thing to do in the future is clear all user data through clockwork, then use odin for master clear then odin start to do it all. It is a hassle that's for sure.
The SD cards (internal and external) are not cleared with a full system wipe. When you delete all data through a system clear, it deletes everything stored internally to apps - in the phone memory where apps are installed.
Although the internal SD card is not really an SD card, the system treats it as an SD card. You can unmount both internal and external SD cards and then format them - that will wipe all data. Follow that with a system reset or Odin 1 click recovery and everything on your phone is factory new.
The phone is behaving as designed.
I am going to try to update to 2.2 but I just want to backup my entire phone
before I do it cause I might lose everything...
so my question is how to back everything up?
Is there a software for it?
umm If you back up a 2.1 phone state you cant restore it once your in 2.2 What exactly do you wanna back up or save?
does that mean if i want to update to 2.2 i need to erase everything??
all i want to backup are my apps
ROM manager is your answer if you want to back up a ROM and potentially restore it. You can also backup all your apps with titanium backup and then flash back to stock (which I assume your on) and then reload your apps with titanium backup. Do some reading around here about those two items, that will get you what you need.
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ROM manager is your answer if you want to back up a ROM and potentially restore it. You can also backup all your apps with titanium backup and then flash back to stock (which I assume your on) and then reload your apps with titanium backup. Do some reading around here about those two items, that will get you what you need.
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If i want to flash a new rom, i back up all my app using tibu. but if i use odin to flash back to stock, then hit master clear all my app is lost. most of the new custom roms ask you to master clear, so how can you back up you app if you have to master clear....
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If i want to flash a new rom, i back up all my app using tibu. but if i use odin to flash back to stock, then hit master clear all my app is lost. most of the new custom roms ask you to master clear, so how can you back up you app if you have to master clear....
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What I did was
1) backup my apps using Tibu.
2) Copy the tibu data folder onto my external SD card or computer.
3) Master Clear and flashed away.
4) Copied the Tibu data folder back to the internal SD card (I think its the root directory of the internal SD card....cant remember).
5) Opened up Tibu and restore the apps.
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What I did was
1) backup my apps using Tibu.
2) Copy the tibu data folder onto my external SD card or computer.
3) Master Clear and flashed away.
4) Copied the Tibu data folder back to the internal SD card (I think its the root directory of the internal SD card....cant remember).
5) Opened up Tibu and restore the apps.
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didn't know that you could copy tibu data folder onto my external sd card or computer. thanks a bunch
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What I did was
1) backup my apps using Tibu.
2) Copy the tibu data folder onto my external SD card or computer.
3) Master Clear and flashed away.
4) Copied the Tibu data folder back to the internal SD card (I think its the root directory of the internal SD card....cant remember).
5) Opened up Tibu and restore the apps.
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after i copy the tibu data folder back to my internal sd card, how do i back up all the app and data. please help?????
Open titanium
Top bar, select backup and restore
Hit menu key on your phone
Select batch
Select restore apis with data
That should do it, do not restore any system data
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mcord11758 said:
Open titanium
Top bar, select backup and restore
Hit menu key on your phone
Select batch
Select restore apis with data
That should do it, do not restore any system data
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There is a blue run button next to the retire all app and data. After I hit it nothing happens. There was a number 0 next to it. Please help
Were is your titanium backup file saved
What build/rom are you on
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Right now I'm using CM 6.1.1 on my Nexus One. When I flashed CM for the first time I wiped my SD card right after I installed the ROM, so I really don't remember too much about what happened to my apps or anything like that. So, my question is, if I want to install CM 7, can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards? Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7? I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did.. Does that kinda make sense? I feel dumb for asking all this. Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right? And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents? So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
Thanks for taking the time to read my long, poorly written batch of questions Help would be very very appreciated!
SD card isn't touched when flashing ROMs.
You can restore your backup and it'll be all like it was.
If you use DT A2SD - things start being more complicated.
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can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards?
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Yes, you can leave your SD contents as is, they won't be touched.
Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7?
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Pictures, Music, Videos etc that are stored on the SD card will remain untouched by flashing a new ROM, however apps are a different story. Basically you've got two main types of Apps on SD cards. The first is froyos implementation which is basically used to free up space on the phone memory but will not survive a wipe or flashing a new ROM. The alternative is Dark Tremors A2SD which uses a dedicated partition on your SD card (Created through recovery) to store apps by tricking the system into thinking the folder on your SD card is actually on internal memory. Once a new ROM is installed over the current (Which obviously must use DT A2SD also) these apps should be available again with their settings etc remaining.
I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did
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Again, all data/media remains but apps require A2SD or its variants.
Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right?
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When you backup/nandroid you take a screenshot of sorts of your system. By default I think most recovery images save the boot, system, data and cache partitions when a backup is being made. Certain recoveries offer to backup other partitions such as sd-ext (Where A2SD stores the apps). Backups are designated by folders with a time stamp, I personally rename these to reflect the contents e.g. MM.v.20 tells me this is MicroMods v.20 of his GB ROM. Obviously yours will differ but I find this keeps things organised. Basically think of nandroid as the Android equivalent of Acronis true image or Norton Ghost for the PC. It lets you create any number of backups which will restore your device to the exact state at the moment of backup.
And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents?
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A newly flashed ROM will basically restore your device to factory settings but on the new ROM. Once you've signed in to your Google account certain settings and content will be automatically downloaded e.g. Calendar appointments, Contacts. Other settings will not be restored e.g. Display brightness, alarms.
So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
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Nope, again it would return to the factory settings. However you can restore nandroid backups you have made of your original ROM which would return the system exactly to its previous state.
Basically if you're on a stock ROM it won't have A2SD. If you wish to use A2SD from now on then find a ROM which uses it, partition your SD card appropriately (Plenty of guides around) and you'll have minimal problems moving from ROM to ROM. As for Nandroid you'll find that most ROM devs recommend wiping all data from the phone (Not SD card) before flashing their ROM. Otherwise files or settings from other ROMs can cause some undesired effects on your current one.
Good luck and get reading the Nexus wiki, it's very helpful for these types of questions
Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings) but I can't seem to find any info after a quick Google and it never interested me enough to look into it further. Perhaps someone can clear this up?
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Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings)
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I dont think thats true.. suppose it's formatted during a wipe.. titanium backup serves the purpose like a charm.. (with all the settings for the apps and the resumes for the games)
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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yeah that would be fine..
btw 1: if you upgrading a cm nightly, you need not wipe system n cache..
2: if you do a titanium backup before, then you can finish all the steps in the recovery in one go..
n I dint quite get what you are asking. but from what I know, apps 2 sd folder (ie android.secure) is erased in a wipe.. that isnt changing
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shreyas - thanks for your help.
I understand the A2SD (EXT) partition onthe sd will be wiped, but I'm assuming I would have to do nothing to get the new rom to see the ext and use it?
That's really my question. Would recovering my apps from Titanium push them back on the A2SD location or would I need to install A2SD again?
i don't think so..
I suppose that the pro version must support the direct a2sd.. but give it a try.. if it dosent work then you have do manually..
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Hi everyone, I had recently bought an SGS from Ebay, its an i9000. I had rooted and flashed Darkys ROM 10.2.2 extreme edition; everything was working fine.
However today after turning wifi on for the first time on this ROM the phone started randomly rebooting and would not stop doing so, attempted to take wifi off but on reboot it would be re-enabled.
ive attempted to get into recovery mode but it does not seem to want to, i can get into download mode so i can reflash via odin, but i would prefer to just restore via clockwork mod. any suggestions?
edit: i have now been able to get into recovery mode, however, i had previously backed up my external and internal sd cards to partition, after partitioning, i put them all back onto the external, and now clockwork mod tells me i cant restore as it cant find the backup folder :\ i cant keep the phone on long enough to mount the internal storage
any ideas?
You say you backed up your external and internal SD Cards to partition? This is a bit unclear for me, did you do a nandroid backup?
It's totally different than just copy pasting folders. If you DID just copy a backup of your phone via file manager or something then I don't think you'd ever be able to restore to that.
Best thing I can tell you to do now is reflash via ODIN... and remember to do a nandroid backup after.
You can't access the External SD while in CWM (as far as I know), so the only option you have left is to flash via Odin. Get used to it.
thanks for the replies problem solved. to clarify i had a nandroid back ip on my sd which i moved before partitioning, after partitioning i moved it to external sd and clockwork only checks internal sd
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Hi!
Well, I rooted my phone yesterday and I now want to upgrade it from 2.3.3 to 2.3.6 (if there is any diffrent?) I'm going to use ODIN. My question is, do I need to re-root after the upgrade? Will I lose any apps after upgrading?
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Hi!
Well, I rooted my phone yesterday and I now want to upgrade it from 2.3.3 to 2.3.6 (if there is any diffrent?) I'm going to use ODIN. My question is, do I need to re-root after the upgrade? Will I lose any apps after upgrading?
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Moving fast aren't you
Yes there is a difference I'm not sure but usually in speed, battery and features. If it is a stock from then yes you will need to re root as it will probably come with a kernal.
Apps: if you tick repartition and use a pit file then it will factory reset your phone. It do it anyway, I'm not 100%. Apps you can use is,
app list backup: it will make a list of all your apps. For those downloaded from market it will have market links.
SMS backup and restore: self explanatory
titanium backup: Saves the data and app..need root for this. So you may need to gain root again after flashing.
Couple of tips... use a pit and wipe its just less likely to cause conflicts. Make a nandroid backup from recovery. Your internal SD card data will be saved, (where your pictures are usually stored) but its best to copy all that to comp as well
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Moving fast aren't you
Yes there is a difference I'm not sure but usually in speed, battery and features. If it is a stock from then yes you will need to re root as it will probably come with a kernal.
Apps: if you tick repartition and use a pit file then it will factory reset your phone. It do it anyway, I'm not 100%. Apps you can use is,
app list backup: it will make a list of all your apps. For those downloaded from market it will have market links.
SMS backup and restore: self explanatory
titanium backup: Saves the data and app..need root for this. So you may need to gain root again after flashing.
Couple of tips... use a pit and wipe its just less likely to cause conflicts. Make a nandroid backup from recovery. Your internal SD card data will be saved, (where your pictures are usually stored) but its best to copy all that to comp as well
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Ah, okay. So you recommend me to factory reset it? Is there an app to backup all the files to my computer? I'm running Titanium backup right now but if I factory reset it, the backup will be gone, right?
Yes I suggest factory reset.
No because that is stored on your partition. Only if you select format SD card or format pictures etc then you will loose it. You can tell titanium back up to move and keep the folder on your external...
To transfer files you just need to connect your phone to PC and use as a mass storage device. It should pop up in my computer as a new removable drive. If not install the drivers via kies.
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Yes I suggest factory reset.
No because that is stored on your partition. Only if you select format SD card or format pictures etc then you will loose it. You can tell titanium back up to move and keep the folder on your external...
To transfer files you just need to connect your phone to PC and use as a mass storage device. It should pop up in my computer as a new removable drive. If not install the drivers via kies.
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What about this: Moving almost every app to my external SD-card, using Titanium backup to store all my highscores etc, somehow get the backup to my PC, removing the SD-card and then facotry resetting it? Will my apps still work?
You can try it, im not sure ive never done it.
I would assume that would not work because im sure a file in the system would still need to know that the app is present. If you do a factory reset then that will be deleted. However it is likely that when you re-install the app from the market that it will realise and everything will be back to normal, but then there is also the possibility that the old files will be deleted with the new installation...lol
Endless possibilities. In the end try it but make sure you have a nandroid backup incase something goes wrong.
Use app list backup for the apps and titanium backup for the data backups (high scores, game data etc) However restoring data from TB can cause conflicts which will mean that apps wont work and you'll have force closes.
Good luck let us know how it goes