[Q] Upgrading after root - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi!
Well, I rooted my phone yesterday and I now want to upgrade it from 2.3.3 to 2.3.6 (if there is any diffrent?) I'm going to use ODIN. My question is, do I need to re-root after the upgrade? Will I lose any apps after upgrading?

DarknessSky said:
Hi!
Well, I rooted my phone yesterday and I now want to upgrade it from 2.3.3 to 2.3.6 (if there is any diffrent?) I'm going to use ODIN. My question is, do I need to re-root after the upgrade? Will I lose any apps after upgrading?
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Moving fast aren't you
Yes there is a difference I'm not sure but usually in speed, battery and features. If it is a stock from then yes you will need to re root as it will probably come with a kernal.
Apps: if you tick repartition and use a pit file then it will factory reset your phone. It do it anyway, I'm not 100%. Apps you can use is,
app list backup: it will make a list of all your apps. For those downloaded from market it will have market links.
SMS backup and restore: self explanatory
titanium backup: Saves the data and app..need root for this. So you may need to gain root again after flashing.
Couple of tips... use a pit and wipe its just less likely to cause conflicts. Make a nandroid backup from recovery. Your internal SD card data will be saved, (where your pictures are usually stored) but its best to copy all that to comp as well
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Talon26 said:
Moving fast aren't you
Yes there is a difference I'm not sure but usually in speed, battery and features. If it is a stock from then yes you will need to re root as it will probably come with a kernal.
Apps: if you tick repartition and use a pit file then it will factory reset your phone. It do it anyway, I'm not 100%. Apps you can use is,
app list backup: it will make a list of all your apps. For those downloaded from market it will have market links.
SMS backup and restore: self explanatory
titanium backup: Saves the data and app..need root for this. So you may need to gain root again after flashing.
Couple of tips... use a pit and wipe its just less likely to cause conflicts. Make a nandroid backup from recovery. Your internal SD card data will be saved, (where your pictures are usually stored) but its best to copy all that to comp as well
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Ah, okay. So you recommend me to factory reset it? Is there an app to backup all the files to my computer? I'm running Titanium backup right now but if I factory reset it, the backup will be gone, right?

Yes I suggest factory reset.
No because that is stored on your partition. Only if you select format SD card or format pictures etc then you will loose it. You can tell titanium back up to move and keep the folder on your external...
To transfer files you just need to connect your phone to PC and use as a mass storage device. It should pop up in my computer as a new removable drive. If not install the drivers via kies.
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Talon26 said:
Yes I suggest factory reset.
No because that is stored on your partition. Only if you select format SD card or format pictures etc then you will loose it. You can tell titanium back up to move and keep the folder on your external...
To transfer files you just need to connect your phone to PC and use as a mass storage device. It should pop up in my computer as a new removable drive. If not install the drivers via kies.
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What about this: Moving almost every app to my external SD-card, using Titanium backup to store all my highscores etc, somehow get the backup to my PC, removing the SD-card and then facotry resetting it? Will my apps still work?

You can try it, im not sure ive never done it.
I would assume that would not work because im sure a file in the system would still need to know that the app is present. If you do a factory reset then that will be deleted. However it is likely that when you re-install the app from the market that it will realise and everything will be back to normal, but then there is also the possibility that the old files will be deleted with the new installation...lol
Endless possibilities. In the end try it but make sure you have a nandroid backup incase something goes wrong.
Use app list backup for the apps and titanium backup for the data backups (high scores, game data etc) However restoring data from TB can cause conflicts which will mean that apps wont work and you'll have force closes.
Good luck let us know how it goes

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Cant wipe all data with factory reset or Odin 1 click!!! HELP

Hi, Im trying to exchange my phone and Im having issues with getting the phone bone stock. I used odin 1 click, did a factory data reset, and all my pictures, app folders and various other things are still on the internal SD card. I was using titanium backup, I think thats the cause (not sure though)
I also just flashed JH3, super rooter, and the OC kernel. But as far as I can tell, those are back to factory. I just cant wipe all my data and I dont know if doing it manually will clear up everything.
Suggestions/questions? Thanks!
I even tried the master clear. I can still see files for shootme, sl4a, clockworkmod, update.zip's, and tons of other folders including busybox
Did you try connecting your phone to your computer, mounting the sd card, then open the driver than your sd card is on and manually delete the files that way? You can move the titanium back up to an external sd card and see if that helps.
Go to Titanium Backup support and shoot them a pm, they got back to me within a day when I had questions if you think it's related to that.
Rhiannon224 said:
Did you try connecting your phone to your computer, mounting the sd card, then open the driver than your sd card is on and manually delete the files that way? You can move the titanium back up to an external sd card and see if that helps.
Go to Titanium Backup support and shoot them a pm, they got back to me within a day when I had questions if you think it's related to that.
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I can do that, But what Im worried about is all the application data (including data for apps that require root) wont be deleted. Im not sure exactly what I would have to do to remove that as well. I wanted to leave it there, so that if I did manage to wipe it, Id know for sure everything was gone.
Ill also try sending them a message. Is it on that forum site they link to? Its not very clear as to how to contact them
commander2k said:
I can do that, But what Im worried about is all the application data (including data for apps that require root) wont be deleted. Im not sure exactly what I would have to do to remove that as well. I wanted to leave it there, so that if I did manage to wipe it, Id know for sure everything was gone.
Ill also try sending them a message. Is it on that forum site they link to? Its not very clear as to how to contact them
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http://forum.legendroid.com/titanium-backup-official-support/
I pm'd Shazd, I have the pro donated version so I had everything backed up, moved the folder for Titanium Backup and the folder for Titanium license to my exteral card. Then I flashed with Odin to stock and swapped my phone for a new one. Then I put the sd card in the new phone, connected to my computer and moved the files to the internal sd, installed Titanium from the market and when it installed my entire backup was there, settings, apps, and data were all there. I did a restore and everything was just as my old phone. Then I installed Unleash The Beast, the cool battery indicator, thanks to Designgears and the rest is history. When I flashed with Odin, all evidence of root were gone. AT&T didn't even check the phone, all I said was random shutdowns and a crack in the screen and they swapped it.
I have the paid donate version as well. I mean, I have the backup saved to my microsd and on my computer, Its just weird, I mean for some reason its not wiping. Im literally trying everything. I had a backup with clockwork mod and I re-rooted with 1 click root so that I could run that... It may be super rooter, Im starting to think thats more the case. But I really am just stumped
I flashed with Odin3 one click, maybe that's the difference. What did you use exactly?
Rhiannon224 said:
I flashed with Odin3 one click, maybe that's the difference. What did you use exactly?
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Both versions lol. 1-click and version 1.0 or whatever by flashing the stock firmware Jh6 from samsung-firmwares.com. I even tried a factory data reset
It may just be files in my internal SD card themselves that arent being deleted... but Im not really sure
It didn't wipe all of my info when I did master clear and then doing the one click wipe. I'm bit sure why it wouldn't either but it did remove most of what I wanted gone.
Sweet life
Huh... Well I did a bunch of clear cache things, wiped my internal sd, and went throught my phone with root explorer and deleted whatever else I found. Wow that was a huge hassle
I think the best thing to do in the future is clear all user data through clockwork, then use odin for master clear then odin start to do it all. It is a hassle that's for sure.
The SD cards (internal and external) are not cleared with a full system wipe. When you delete all data through a system clear, it deletes everything stored internally to apps - in the phone memory where apps are installed.
Although the internal SD card is not really an SD card, the system treats it as an SD card. You can unmount both internal and external SD cards and then format them - that will wipe all data. Follow that with a system reset or Odin 1 click recovery and everything on your phone is factory new.
The phone is behaving as designed.

[Q] how to backup entire phone

I am going to try to update to 2.2 but I just want to backup my entire phone
before I do it cause I might lose everything...
so my question is how to back everything up?
Is there a software for it?
umm If you back up a 2.1 phone state you cant restore it once your in 2.2 What exactly do you wanna back up or save?
does that mean if i want to update to 2.2 i need to erase everything??
all i want to backup are my apps
ROM manager is your answer if you want to back up a ROM and potentially restore it. You can also backup all your apps with titanium backup and then flash back to stock (which I assume your on) and then reload your apps with titanium backup. Do some reading around here about those two items, that will get you what you need.
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ROM manager is your answer if you want to back up a ROM and potentially restore it. You can also backup all your apps with titanium backup and then flash back to stock (which I assume your on) and then reload your apps with titanium backup. Do some reading around here about those two items, that will get you what you need.
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If i want to flash a new rom, i back up all my app using tibu. but if i use odin to flash back to stock, then hit master clear all my app is lost. most of the new custom roms ask you to master clear, so how can you back up you app if you have to master clear....
killeen1980 said:
If i want to flash a new rom, i back up all my app using tibu. but if i use odin to flash back to stock, then hit master clear all my app is lost. most of the new custom roms ask you to master clear, so how can you back up you app if you have to master clear....
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What I did was
1) backup my apps using Tibu.
2) Copy the tibu data folder onto my external SD card or computer.
3) Master Clear and flashed away.
4) Copied the Tibu data folder back to the internal SD card (I think its the root directory of the internal SD card....cant remember).
5) Opened up Tibu and restore the apps.
gormander said:
What I did was
1) backup my apps using Tibu.
2) Copy the tibu data folder onto my external SD card or computer.
3) Master Clear and flashed away.
4) Copied the Tibu data folder back to the internal SD card (I think its the root directory of the internal SD card....cant remember).
5) Opened up Tibu and restore the apps.
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didn't know that you could copy tibu data folder onto my external sd card or computer. thanks a bunch
gormander said:
What I did was
1) backup my apps using Tibu.
2) Copy the tibu data folder onto my external SD card or computer.
3) Master Clear and flashed away.
4) Copied the Tibu data folder back to the internal SD card (I think its the root directory of the internal SD card....cant remember).
5) Opened up Tibu and restore the apps.
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after i copy the tibu data folder back to my internal sd card, how do i back up all the app and data. please help?????
Open titanium
Top bar, select backup and restore
Hit menu key on your phone
Select batch
Select restore apis with data
That should do it, do not restore any system data
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mcord11758 said:
Open titanium
Top bar, select backup and restore
Hit menu key on your phone
Select batch
Select restore apis with data
That should do it, do not restore any system data
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There is a blue run button next to the retire all app and data. After I hit it nothing happens. There was a number 0 next to it. Please help
Were is your titanium backup file saved
What build/rom are you on
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[Q] Will I be able to back up saved games before flashing a ROM or wiping my device?

Subject says it all. I'm looking at flashing Cognition but I'm hesitant if I will lose all saved games. I have titanium backup but have only used it to removed at&t bloatware. Can I use that to backup saves? And if so.. how?
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I use titanium backup and it has always restored my Angry Birds' saved games... I was three star-ing everything so I wasn't about to flash and lose it all either HAHA. I say use TiBu and you should be fine, though there are anomalies and I am not responsible for any lost saved games haha
Is there a "how-to" for titanium backup?
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TiBu -> Menu -> Batch -> Backup all user apps
Flash ODIN
Flash new rom (you can click wipe data, it doesnt delete your sd card stuff, in fact, i recommend it)
Install TiBu (if your rom doesn't have it included)
TiBu -> Menu -> Batch -> Restore all apps with data
Click install, install, install. Done.
If you're really anal (which i was for a while), put in an external sd card and copy the titaniumbackup folder from your root folder to the external sd card and then take it out. lol
Ah sweet. So if I'm understanding those steps... the internal sd card is not treated like internal ROM storage that is wiped when you flash your phone?
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No, but if you did, for instance, an Odin 3 one click back to stock, and clicked the master clear button, or if you do a factory reset, etc., that would wipe the internal SD card. So, if your ocd like me, connect to your pc and mount the SD card, and transfer everything on it to the PC hard disk. Then repeat that whenever you're going to flash. Just in case, you know.
Backup all user apps or backup all user apps + system data?
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Do all backup stuff. You can later select what to restore. You can go in and just restore browser favorites if you want.
Demonic240 said:
Backup all user apps or backup all user apps + system data?
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Thank you all for the info! There's a reason these forums rock!
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[Q] I'm an idiot! Undelete files after CWM wipe?

While updating the ROM in my phone I did a CWM wipe without realizing it would wipe the external sdcard as well, which of course is where my Titanium Backup is stored. Does anyone know whether CWM reformats or just deletes the files, and whether there's a prayer of recovering things? I'm familiar with utilities which will look for image files and reconstruct them, but I'm more concerned with my TiBu files.
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BillShepp said:
While updating the ROM in my phone I did a CWM wipe without realizing it would wipe the external sdcard as well, which of course is where my Titanium Backup is stored. Does anyone know whether CWM reformats or just deletes the files, and whether there's a prayer of recovering things? I'm familiar with utilities which will look for image files and reconstruct them, but I'm more concerned with my TiBu files.
Bill
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A CWM wipe of what?
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Its actually a proven fact that flash mem may always hold deleted data. The problem is finding a good application.
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google / torrent download some " flash data restore software "
To follow-up, I used PhotoRec, which is an open source (free) package which runs on virtually all platforms. It's not the most UI-friendly package, but it's extremely effective at recovering all forms of files, including music, movies, and archives. I'm still working through, but I've recovered hundreds of photos, movies, and audio files, and have found most of the Titanium Backup files (though I'll need to manually restore the data, I think).
Nonetheless, it's good to know that it's somewhat possible to restore a great deal of lost data...
Never done it from a sd card before, but there is software out there. Another good reason to always remove your sim and external sd when flashing. Good luck... hope you get it back.
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Trying to backup my Note 8 and can't seem to find a solution for it.

I have a non rooted note 8 that I am trying to backup before factory reset and then unlocking the bootloader.
I have a lot of data there. Around 55 gb spread around various folders.
I am trying for the past few days to backup and didn't find any way to backup everything on my phone to my pc.
What I have tried so far:
1. Searching for various softwares and guides. Most of them talk about cloud which I don't use or have. I also want a local backup.
I will add that there is no reliable software that backup everything including apps, media, etc.
2. Tried regular ADB pull command. Every time I tried that, instead of the 55gb of storage I have on my phone I get a folder with less then 20gb on my pc.
That means a lot of stuff are missing. I then kept searching and found out ADB doesn't work best from the android OS so its better to use custom recovery in order to perfom ADB pull comnmands.
3. I installed twrp on my note 8 and tried to ADB pull. I get "0 files pulled". Further checking the problem it seems I need to "mount" from twrp.
Tried mounting but I get internal storage 0mb. Trying to select the "data' in mount options doesn't work. I get no error but it doesn't get selected.
Now my note 8 is stuck on twrp and I can't get back to my android OS. When I try to restart in either get bootloop or returning to TWRP.
I am looking for a way to backup everything in my phone. Ideally with all the filesystem and directory intact. So finding my pictures and music would be easy in the future when I need them.
I am not sure how to proceed from here. I did a lot of research and digging on my end but didn't found any solution to this.
Thank you for your time.
You backup critical data and apps like Poweramp that allow backup files.
Form a complete plan for backing up all critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Mind what needs to be backed up before you need it like contacts, bookmarks and so on, develop a plan that works.
Copy/paste folders to the PC. Check folder count and data size against original. Check that the data is readable. Never compress or clone media files/databases and never encrypt backup data drives. Backup often or risk losing the new data.
Never really on SmartSwitch or any app as a stand alone solution to backup critical data!!!
They can fail miserably.
Lol, my N10+'s backup is close to 400gb, I use the SD card as a data drive then redundantly back it up. My N10's can be fully reloaded using the SD card.
ColorNote can open hyperlinks directly from the app, can auto backup to the SD card or cloud; I use it for bookmarks and more.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all apps, updates and as backups. Install directly from those copies, no Playstore needed.
smart switch is probably the best you can get plus they do local backups
luridphantom said:
smart switch is probably the best you can get plus they do local backups
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Not suitable for stand alone critical data backup.
Once you lose or corrupt a database, it's gone forever... can you handle that?
blackhawk said:
Not suitable for stand alone critical data backup.
Once you lose or corrupt a database, it's gone forever... can you handle that?
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his phone is screwed cuz twrp cant see his encrypted data and he cant boot into android as of now due to dm-verity
only way is to reflash the build through odin without a data wipe by using home csc and backup from there
luridphantom said:
his phone is screwed cuz twrp cant see his encrypted data and he cant boot into android as of now due to dm-verity
only way is to reflash the build through odin without a data wipe by using home csc and backup from there
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Be nice if that works... could that help this person?
luridphantom said:
his phone is screwed cuz twrp cant see his encrypted data and he cant boot into android as of now due to dm-verity
only way is to reflash the build through odin without a data wipe by using home csc and backup from there
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blackhawk said:
You backup critical data and apps like Poweramp that allow backup files.
Form a complete plan for backing up all critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Mind what needs to be backed up before you need it like contacts, bookmarks and so on, develop a plan that works.
Copy/paste folders to the PC. Check folder count and data size against original. Check that the data is readable. Never compress or clone media files/databases and never encrypt backup data drives. Backup often or risk losing the new data.
Never really on SmartSwitch or any app as a stand alone solution to backup critical data!!!
They can fail miserably.
Lol, my N10+'s backup is close to 400gb, I use the SD card as a data drive then redundantly back it up. My N10's can be fully reloaded using the SD card.
ColorNote can open hyperlinks directly from the app, can auto backup to the SD card or cloud; I use it for bookmarks and more.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all apps, updates and as backups. Install directly from those copies, no Playstore needed.
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Thank you very much guys. I will try those things.+
Before I do that tho. I need to fix the TWRP probem.
Can you elaborate on the problem with the dm-verity? I didn't changed the bootloader or tried flashing roms or anything.
I need to access the phone for the backup. But I don't know what to look for.
Looking dm-verity online gives me weird solutions such as flashing Magisk or unlocking the bootloader which obviously doesn't help because I don't want a root and need the data.
Creep Crusher said:
Thank you very much guys. I will try those things.+
Before I do that tho. I need to fix the TWRP probem.
Can you elaborate on the problem with the dm-verity? I didn't changed the bootloader or tried flashing roms or anything.
I need to access the phone for the backup. But I don't know what to look for.
Looking dm-verity online gives me weird solutions such as flashing Magisk or unlocking the bootloader which obviously doesn't help because I don't want a root and need the data.
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you dont have to do any more than restore your phone to the original version without erasing all your data. once thats done you can do whatever you want to backup. look up odin, download mode, and see if you can find out what build your phone is
blackhawk said:
You backup critical data and apps like Poweramp that allow backup files.
Form a complete plan for backing up all critical data redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Mind what needs to be backed up before you need it like contacts, bookmarks and so on, develop a plan that works.
Copy/paste folders to the PC. Check folder count and data size against original. Check that the data is readable. Never compress or clone media files/databases and never encrypt backup data drives. Backup often or risk losing the new data.
Never really on SmartSwitch or any app as a stand alone solution to backup critical data!!!
They can fail miserably.
Lol, my N10+'s backup is close to 400gb, I use the SD card as a data drive then redundantly back it up. My N10's can be fully reloaded using the SD card.
ColorNote can open hyperlinks directly from the app, can auto backup to the SD card or cloud; I use it for bookmarks and more.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all apps, updates and as backups. Install directly from those copies, no Playstore needed.
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luridphantom said:
his phone is screwed cuz twrp cant see his encrypted data and he cant boot into android as of now due to dm-verity
only way is to reflash the build through odin without a data wipe by using home csc and backup from there
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luridphantom said:
you dont have to do any more than restore your phone to the original version without erasing all your data. once thats done you can do whatever you want to backup. look up odin, download mode, and see if you can find out what build your phone is
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Thank you very much guys!
I was able to restore my phone by flashing the stock rom with Frija and Odin.
I even downloaded the newest version with Frija because I couldn't manage to find my exact current version. And it worked very well.
For the backup I did as you said and used APK Export for the apps. Its such a great app, I wish I knew about it sooner.
To transfer all the files and media to my PC I used a micro sd card reader for my sd card contents.
For the internal storage I tried using FTP and it was much better then I expected. It is kinda sad that using Wifi to transfer so much files is so much faster and stable then a direct USB connection. Its really baffling. But anyway.
Transferring the data was pretty smooth. Worked much better then ADB pull.
Thanks you again guys and I hope people having trouble would be able to find this thread helpful.

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