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putting android on nonandroid phone

If a phone has the same processor and so fourth as an android phone but isn't running android how can I put android on it?

What phone is it that you are trying to transfer android os too?
I don't think it is possible..

The processor isn't the only consideration. It is everything from the cell radio and microphone to the processor. If the phone already has a linux kernel, you might be able to get it to work with relatively little work, but if there isn't already a linux kernel for the device it will become very difficult if not impossible.

Everyone here DID manage to port Android to a bunch of WinMo phones in the XDAndroid project. Nothing's impossible if you really try for it.

You could compile the linux kernel for the chipset, but then you have to look at touch screen, keyboard(if it has one), audio, and cell drivers - which all could very well be available to you.
The process of actually getting it on the phone - ehhhh I don't have a clue how you could flash it.

Well one is a samsung soltice and has a touchscreen and the other is a w490 which is keypad. I think that the samsung has the same stuff as a samsung behold. The w490 though doesn't but i know how I can flash stuff to it and I think that it would be pretty cool to be able to put android in one form or another on any phone

Working Eclair (Android 2.1) installed on WinMo AT&T Tilt
I left AT&T and my Tilt when the Sprint Hero was released last October. I recently (last week) installed a working Eclair (Android 2.1) system on it. I found the information on XDA's Kaiser/Tilt forum. My son is overseas for the summer and I shipped the phone out to him earlier this week.

mjweisberg said:
I left AT&T and my Tilt when the Sprint Hero was released last October. I recently (last week) installed a working Eclair (Android 2.1) system on it. I found the information on XDA's Kaiser/Tilt forum. My son is overseas for the summer and I shipped the phone out to him earlier this week.
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thanks gonna check it out

HD7 and Android - Use this thread for your questions about and stay On Topic!

Would it be possible to have Android on this phone since its basically the same phone as the hd2

I assume you mean as a duel boot? As i see a lot of people asking to put android on it yet they could just buy the htc desire hd an almost identical phone that is designed to work with android. tbh i would love to see some sort of emulator for a couple of the apps but i am so so glad to be rid of android i loved it but it felt like an early 90's computer all basic with no flair.
I think it would be possible but it will be glitchy and a long time off my advise would be if you want android to buy an android device they have a lot to choose from.

startekee said:
Would it be possible to have Android on this phone since its basically the same phone as the hd2
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its more advanced then the HD2 and has less touch buttons
however its a bit of a silly question IMHO. If you want android get the Desire HD.
Why put a round peg in a square hole ?

I actually think it's a great question.
Why would people want it? because it gives you CHOICE!
It would be great if you could dual boot with Android and WM7 so you get the best of both worlds: taking advantage of Android whilst also using WM7 while it matures. I'd absolutely love to have a device with android and WM7.
Wish I was a developer, I'd work on that project straight away! I'd pay to have a dual-booting HD7 (or desire HD!) !
Bring it on dudes!

Wow please close this thread since there are so many options available for android these days and if anyone needs a android phone they should buy an android phone

I'm not sure I agree with the last poster. T-mobile has no android alternative to the HD7 that I am aware of.

Apoplack said:
I'm not sure I agree with the last poster. T-mobile has no android alternative to the HD7 that I am aware of.
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really? for tmous or t-mobile europe? Cause there is the g2 and mytouch4g that just came out android...
To the OP, considering how the hd2 android is booted from the sd card and technically, there is no sd card on the wp7 (once it's inserted it becomes program memory), I don't think this is happening anytime in the future. Gotta agree, that dual booting for computers can be important to some people, but for phones, I just don't see it happening with the newer os's.

I'm a layman with no technical knowledge, just interested, so my comment was more on a visceral level than technical. To clarify, what I meant to say was that '...there is no android alternative ...... I am aware of'...' regarding the large screen format of the HD7. I bought a G2 but returned it because it was bulky, and I decided that I did not need the slide out keyboard. I really liked my first foray into the andriod world during my two weeks using the G2, and was hoping that I would be able to use the HD7 with android as well.
PS. I'm in Florida.

Android on hd7 with wp7 like hd2?
Hi all,
A friend baught the hd7 with wp7.
As he saw my hd2 running Android he ask me if its possible to run it on his hd7 just like onmy hd2?
Can someone answer me if its possible or it will be soon?
Thanks
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Mods pls ban him
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oversizzed said:
Hi all,
A friend baught the hd7 with wp7.
As he saw my hd2 running Android he ask me if its possible to run it on his hd7 just like onmy hd2?
Can someone answer me if its possible or it will be soon?
Thanks
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If he wants Android, tell him to go get an Android phone if it's within 14 days, otherwise, it'll be awhile before Android comes to the HD7.

gaarry said:
If he wants Android, tell him to go get an Android phone if it's within 14 days, otherwise, it'll be awhile before Android comes to the HD7.
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Ok thank you
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The phone's been out for 4 days and people are already asking for an Android port? hahaha come on, guys!

[Q] [question] HD7 ANDROID?
Okay I was just wondering.. is the dev going to make a way to port android to hd7.. I have a hd2 and its been ported.. I love android but love HTC 4.3 screen hd7 and plan on buying it.. what is there to come for the hd7. Android, or no?

Fuse8499 said:
The phone's been out for 4 days and people are already asking for an Android port? hahaha come on, guys!
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I agree. I don't get it. WinPho7 is amazing. If you want andriod, dont get a brand new phone that just came out with a new windows version. Sure andriod has its perks, but so does Windows. I've had Apple, Andriod and Windows, and I just dont get the point of changing something off the bat. Altho He is probably thinking that the HD7 is like the HD2, with WinPho6.5, which I personally did not like. But it did have its perks too, like multitasking. I don't think many realize how long and how much work it took to bring Andriod to the HD2. I'm not a developer myself, but I can only imagine!

hd7
Okay I find out there is a phone out that's come close to the hd7.. its called HTC desire HD.. its looks just like the hd7 but the only thing defferent is the cam. Which is a 8mp instead of 5mp and its a android phone.. its not windows..

Just get a desire HD if you want an android powered 4.3 inch screen
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These type of questions never ends.
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If you want an android phone.. Why are you buying a hd7??

The answer is maybe. If you want Android, get an Android phone. There is a high likelihood that someone will at least attempt to port Android to the HD7. Whether or not it will be anytime soon, if it will be stable/usable, or if it will actually happen at all remains to be seen. My advice is not to buy a phone on the hopes that Android will be ported to it.

WP7 on the N1???

Did someone try porting the WP7 to the N1??

Not possible.

More importantly... WHY?
That'd be like taking the motor out of a Honda Civic and sticking it in a Lamborghini Gallardo. Fail.

Clarkster said:
Not possible.
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But why? The HD2 seems to be working?

djstoffe said:
But why? The HD2 seems to be working?
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he has a point

I think it could be a great idea, because, for example, I really want our Nexus One to be like the HTC HD2! Been able to "work" also with other OSes..
Plus, Windows Phone 7 seems to be very snappy and minimal!
Android is obviously better, but I really want to try the Seven

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There was another thread asking the same question and someone said only its possible to port WP7 to a android phone if there already exists a WP7 which is basically the same device with WP7 on it.
I think the HD7 is pretty much the same device as the HD2?

Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market thanx to all the devs to bring out the real potential of the LEO.wish all htc devices was able to do that.i would rather try wp7 on my hd2 rather than my n1.hd2 is fully functional android just like every other native androids and its running better than my n1.
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First of all I'm glad to know that my curiosirty has interest with other people as well.
second, the reason for the WHY is of course curiosity, and the fact that the N1 is a capable device and it'll be interesting to see how it would function with other OS.
Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market thanx to all the devs to bring out the real potential of the LEO.wish all htc devices was able to do that.i would rather try wp7 on my hd2 rather than my n1.hd2 is fully functional android just like every other native androids and its running better than my n1.
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I with I had the money to carry as much devices as I wanted to.
That's the reason I wanted the N1, and Android for that matter, to be flexible...

athornz said:
There was another thread asking the same question and someone said only its possible to port WP7 to a android phone if there already exists a WP7 which is basically the same device with WP7 on it.
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That's handy then, as teardowns show the HTC Surround is basically a Nexus One.

HD2 runs Android awfully, compared to N1. I couldn't stand looking at it stuttering all over the place where N1 flies.
The other problem for this port is bootloader and FS compatibility. While it could probably be overcome, it might not be straightforward, just as it's quite hard to install Windows and Linux on the same partition, both using different native FS. On WM phones there is many-years-old way of loading other systems "under" Windows (I'm not really into details, but AFAIK the other system doesn't load from bootloader, but from early stages of WM kernel - which is the reason why WM-loaded OSes run like crap). On Android phones, it doesn't work that way, and there is no universally used way of loading other OSes.
And the biggest problem for all the curious would probably be just that no dev has taken interest in doing it.

if HTC 7 Surround is simular to N1, is it possible to port the whole bootloader and system of surround to N1. and and run Android "on the top" of WP7 just like what HD2 does

this could be a very very interesting project... as there are quite a few developers currently working on a WP7 like launcher for android. and if we could run wp7 it would be a pretty amazing.

GHOST99K said:
Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market
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that is actually provably false due to the fact the HD2 is TMobile-only. the devs have squeezed every ounce out of it no doubt, but for a phone to be the greatest HTC device it would have to be available across all GSM networks, not just the B-list one

crachel said:
that is actually provably false due to the fact the HD2 is TMobile-only. the devs have squeezed every ounce out of it no doubt, but for a phone to be the greatest HTC device it would have to be available across all GSM networks, not just the B-list one
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The HD2 is not Tmobile only... Tmobile was the last carrier to get it lol. The HD2 is available on all GSM networks even ATT if you import an aussie or canadian version.

miketlo said:
The HD2 is not Tmobile only... Tmobile was the last carrier to get it lol. The HD2 is available on all GSM networks even ATT if you import an aussie or canadian version.
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for AT&T 3G?
Edit: Ok, I guess the Telstra HD2 had AT&T 3G bands, so you could import the phone at a premium. i can't find it on Ebay, but the Cell2Get.com has it for a reasonable $831.99. it better be the greatest ever

I would love trying wp7 on my nexus. The OS interests me, not enough though to shell out for an entire new phone. Especially since all the wp7 phones really aren't special hardware wise.
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So....
What does it take to port an OS??
do we need a new bootloader? do we need the WP7 source code?

You will never get WP7 source code.
I guess you'd need a complete dump from the Surround to work from.

HD7 vs Sensation

I am wondering if i should get rid of my HTC HD7. I see the new HTC Sensation and everything looks far superior. Just want a word from you guys before i make the move. Any ETA to when T-Mobile will have them in stock? Also i saw some guy on kijiji selling a HD7 with Android 2.2 on it. I prefer Android over WP7.
Like come on m$ didnt even make a MSN Messenger yet.
And check out the Music player... how ridiculous they don't have a feature to make playlists and why cant videos play in background? why do they just stop when u exit? Sure if a call is coming it can stop... but other than that...
And it had no copy/paste... even though they released copy/paste there is no cut and paste... And they tell us if we jailbreak the phones we wont get the copy/paste feature... like come on that is so bs cause iphone and android phones come with copy/cut/paste.
And importing/exporting the contacts is so f***ed... skydrive and live profile are only way...
And no microSD expansion slot.. just one damn internal slot and if that doesnt work you are left with 15MB of storage.. great.
No proper GPS Navigation other than what we have done so far.. Navigon modded.
I have my HD7 upgraded to 32gb and it has the mugen battery. Any ideas on how much i should sell it for.. it has all the xbox live games and most of the apps.

MSN Messenger is available in the Marketplace, this is an MS approved messenger client so don't expect MS to make another one.
Of course you can make a playlist, just longpress any song you want to add to your current "Now Playing" list and select "Add to Now Playing". It won't appear under the "Playlists" section as this requires Zune but no big deal, at least you've got a list of songs playing you want to play.
Copy/Paste has arrived (although i don't use it). If you think Jailbreaking any device will give you automatic updates without consequences you're mistaken.
Contacts backup are one of the greatest features imo. I've got every single contact linked to my Gmail account so if i ever hard reset all i have to do is link my Gmail account to my phone. Easiest way i've ever known on any device.
I think you should probably put a selling price of £500 and hope that the next person knows absolutely nothing about the device before buying it too. Take your games/apps for example. You obviously have no idea of how these work. So i'll help you out, the next person to buy the phone won't be able to use them (unless they use YOUR email address to set up the phone).

Yeah ! I am inclined towards the HTC Sensation as well now..
Have to make up my mind between Samsung Galaxy S2 and the HTC Sensation..
But I haven't been disappointed with WP7 at all
1. Messenger by Miyowa is the Official MSN messenger ( I dont use it anyway)
I guess it is really down to personal choice.
I have an Htc Hero and Boy I flashed so may Roms on it and now I am nearly sick of flashing All the Lovely Roms on it
WP7 bought something Fresh and New and it serves my daily purpose, the only truely bit that I miss is the navigation, but I guess it will come in the Mango update.
I might sell my HD7 later on , but I doubt anyone will give more than £300 for it if I am lucky, with the new HTC HD7 S being out as well.. or might just keep it
I seriously want to get a NOKIA WP7 when they release theirs next Year cause I am sure the will rock like hell.
As far as I know If Apple doesn't come with something New or different... Android and WP7 will blow them out of competiton
If you think WP7 is ****ty have a look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BDlvG8k5rE
Its just one of the things you will be able to do with it

you know what really grinds my gear, - Posts like this
I got my HD7 for only 1 reason, to have WP7. i knew hardware is the same as HD2, but hey, i couldnt wait for a working port of the OS to HD2. Android was just getting boring as well...
Do i still like my HD7 - yes,
Would i want Sensation instead -yes, definitely, if it came with WP7, but it doesn't, so what's the point. Just calm down and wait for chassis 2 of WP7 devices.
Unless you really don't care about what OS you are using, just switch and move on, hardware wise its definitely the way to go....

Thank you all for your valuable replies. I agree wp7 can be better in the future but hardware wise HTC sensation is the way to go. Alright I will be putting my hd7 up for sale.
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Do i love my HD7? The answer is YES, OF COURSE...
I owned an HD2 before i bought HD7. HD2 is an amazing phone, and HD7 is the same since they have almost the same hardware (even same errors...). I knew that they had already hacked successfully WP7 on HD2, but i just couldn't wait. I sold my HD2 and then bought the HD7. I totally love it.
HTC sensation has a really good hardware (at least it has the dual-core CPU), and Android is not bad. I just get used to the WP7. I don't think i will change the phone for at least 1 year, until HTC pull out something running WP7, i will consider about it.

Strike_Eagle said:
Do i love my HD7? The answer is YES, OF COURSE...
I owned an HD2 before i bought HD7. HD2 is an amazing phone, and HD7 is the same since they have almost the same hardware (even same errors...). I knew that they had already hacked successfully WP7 on HD2, but i just couldn't wait. I sold my HD2 and then bought the HD7. I totally love it.
HTC sensation has a really good hardware (at least it has the dual-core CPU), and Android is not bad. I just get used to the WP7. I don't think i will change the phone for at least 1 year, until HTC pull out something running WP7, i will consider about it.
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I agree with everything you said there.. I owned a HD2, which i thought was fantastic.. I'm just an MS fanboy and have to have the latest and greatest they do.. So as of now i have a HD7 and love it.
I hear what you are saying about the Sensation, but that is still not released. If you take a look at what is going on at MIX11 you will see that the new specs for chassis 1 it specifies Qualcom MSM8x55 chipsets which are a generation ahead of what's in the HD7 now, so quicker OS and GFX (even quicker than it is now!!!). It'll outperform the Sensation even with a older chipset
Hopefully looking forward we'll see an adoption of the QSD8x72, putting WP7 shoulder to shoulder with its Android bretheren in hardware.. We all know that speed wise WP7 is killer!
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Take a look here:
http://www.qualcomm.co.uk/products/snapdragon
It shows that the MSM8x60 chipset is indeed going to be used for WP7 handsets..
I'd keep using the HD7 and take advantage of all the wonderfulness that it exudes and wait for the SUPER hand sets coming in the future.

nuclear said:
I am wondering if i should get rid of my HTC HD7. I see the new HTC Sensation and everything looks far superior. Just want a word from you guys before i make the move. Any ETA to when T-Mobile will have them in stock? Also i saw some guy on kijiji selling a HD7 with Android 2.2 on it. I prefer Android over WP7.
Like come on m$ didnt even make a MSN Messenger yet.
And check out the Music player... how ridiculous they don't have a feature to make playlists and why cant videos play in background? why do they just stop when u exit? Sure if a call is coming it can stop... but other than that...
And it had no copy/paste... even though they released copy/paste there is no cut and paste... And they tell us if we jailbreak the phones we wont get the copy/paste feature... like come on that is so bs cause iphone and android phones come with copy/cut/paste.
And importing/exporting the contacts is so f***ed... skydrive and live profile are only way...
And no microSD expansion slot.. just one damn internal slot and if that doesnt work you are left with 15MB of storage.. great.
No proper GPS Navigation other than what we have done so far.. Navigon modded.
I have my HD7 upgraded to 32gb and it has the mugen battery. Any ideas on how much i should sell it for.. it has all the xbox live games and most of the apps.
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you are B#$%%$#@& about the things which every one knew from day one....

tfn said:
Yeah ! I am inclined towards the HTC Sensation as well now..
Have to make up my mind between Samsung Galaxy S2 and the HTC Sensation..
But I haven't been disappointed with WP7 at all
1. Messenger by Miyowa is the Official MSN messenger ( I dont use it anyway)
I guess it is really down to personal choice.
I have an Htc Hero and Boy I flashed so may Roms on it and now I am nearly sick of flashing All the Lovely Roms on it
WP7 bought something Fresh and New and it serves my daily purpose, the only truely bit that I miss is the navigation, but I guess it will come in the Mango update.
I might sell my HD7 later on , but I doubt anyone will give more than £300 for it if I am lucky, with the new HTC HD7 S being out as well.. or might just keep it
I seriously want to get a NOKIA WP7 when they release theirs next Year cause I am sure the will rock like hell.
As far as I know If Apple doesn't come with something New or different... Android and WP7 will blow them out of competiton
If you think WP7 is ****ty have a look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BDlvG8k5rE
Its just one of the things you will be able to do with it
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i am also waiting for the Nokia to launch their WP7 device.... it will be fun... at least i will have a choice of HArdware now only HTC... (please dont take me wrong i tried samsung but they are not as good as HTC)..

Ya... Samsung Omnia 7 sux big time.
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The HTC sensation is a great looking phone but it runs Android and as much as I love Android, it doesn't have the fluidity of WP7 and I love the fact that the OS and UI works perfectly well with the hardware for the most part.
As much as I love Android, there is generally no balance....The software never fully balances with the hardware...leaving a half-done and disappointing experience.
That being said, I am contemplating a switch BACK to android for the xperia play.

I say wait for WP7 to get the 2.5 GHz Quad Cores when ever they come out.
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drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I say wait for WP7 to get the 2.5 GHz Quad Cores when ever they come out.
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The beauty of WP7 is that it is perfect on single core processors. Dual-core and quad-core processors will drain the battery faster but as WP7 is already super-fast, they won't add anything to the user experience, thus rendering them a bit pointless TBH.
I would much rather just see the 1GHz processor-based phones drop in price and maybe get more efficient batteries, as battery power is the biggest issue facing WP7 phones, not processor speed.

Jim Coleman said:
The beauty of WP7 is that it is perfect on single core processors. Dual-core and quad-core processors will drain the battery faster but as WP7 is already super-fast, they won't add anything to the user experience, thus rendering them a bit pointless TBH.
I would much rather just see the 1GHz processor-based phones drop in price and maybe get more efficient batteries, as battery power is the biggest issue facing WP7 phones, not processor speed.
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The Quad is supposed to get better battery life than the HD7's single core. According to the press release, 75% less battery draw,
To meet this challenge, Qualcomm created its next generation architecture and integrated four new, low-power CPU cores and its advanced Adreno® graphics into the APQ8064, enabling it to offer twelve times the available performance as well as 75 percent lower power than the first generation of Snapdragon processors.
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Kindle Fire HD 7 (KFTT) Help.

Hello there! Semi Newb, long time XDA lover here. I believe this is my first post so please bear with me. My situation is quite weird, or i'm sure I could find help in another thread. All advise would be greatly appreciated! If this is the wrong place to post, please move.
I recently went to a goodwill store over here in the US near the west coast. For you who do not know it is a legit thrift store. I picked up a mint kindle fire HD 7 for $12.99. The reason it intrigued me is I love kindles but hate the os.
As I spent maybe an hour in the store looking threw it, I noticed it has SU installed and was rooted already. I thought great! One step covered. I was a little concerned about security, connecting to my wifi at home although. I loaded some software and nothing came up.
I have an older kindle ,rooted, and got an android os working myself. I have also rooted, used TWRP to do the same on an older phone. So, I do have some experience but I am totally rusty. That was years ago.
I booted the hd7 into recovery (or whatever it might be called and noticed TWRP was already on it. It confused me because it was still running the amazon os.
So, my questions. Can I load a custom ROM and flash it with TWRP right off the bat as it is? I have apps on it now and use it as is. Should I somehow do a complete wipe, unroot, and start from scratch. Or just can i go through TWRP to do so.
I really love this devise. The speakers are quite amazing, the screen is pretty amazing compared to my old old old kindle, and its pretty snappy speed wise. I would love to get gaps. (google apps) and an android rom.
Here is some confusing, maybe helpful, info I got from a devise info app. Cpu-z will not work so i used a crappy app.
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Devise.
Model: KFTT
Board: blaz_tablet
Hardware: Browser
Boot loader: Unknown
User: Ubuntu
OS.
Ice cream Sandwich 4.03 (???? is this normal or a loaded rom?)
API level: 15
Build ID: 15
CPU.
Model: Armv7 Processor rev 10 (v7I)
Hardware: OMAP4 Bowser4 Board.
Thank you!
Twitch. :good:

Ice cream Sandwich 4.03 (???? is this normal or a loaded rom?)
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No these stupid juvenile names really are from the original OS .
Obviously you can only have confidence is a hacked device if you are the one who hacked it. There is no way of knowing who put what into it and how it was rooted.
If you do decide to do a clean installation make sure you do NOT put a recent "up to date" OS on there, you will make it harder to modify.