[Q] Languages / Marketplace access - HD7 General

Microsoft announced that WP7 devices that they are currently releasing will NOT receive any language updates and that country's that are currently blocked from Marketplace/Xbox Live will always be blocked on those devices.
I really want the HD7, but also want to be able some time in the future to set the device to my native language (Dutch) and to use the Marketplace for the Netherlands once developers start putting dutch apps on there.
I've seen some ROM's already posted here and was wondering whether such things can be changed in ROM's once Microsoft releases more languages on WP7 in mid 2011.
The question really is:
Can i get a HD7 already and have good faith that this will be able in the future (with all the talk round jailbreaking the OS or custom ROM's) or should i wait for other device releases in the Netherlands and stick with poor old WM6 for the time being?

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Small network operator seeking help with amending ROMs

Hi everyone
I work for a very small mobile operator, we purchase through the O2 UK sales channel so therefore sell the UK version of the O2 XDA2S, which comes pre-installed with the O2 UK ROM, but we have our own GPRS APN connection details etc.
We don't usually sell a huge volume in any one month, due to the fact it is a small market, so setting up our own connection details and 'today screen' on an individual device basis hasn't been a huge hassle.
However I have now been asked to investigate delivering a large quantity (hundreds) preconfigured to a customer. Apologies if this is obvious to some of you (and I did do a search hehe but don't quite understand some of the apps and tweaks I've seen), but is there an application that allows me to tweak the ROM to change the preinstalled O2 connection details to our own? If so I would be hugely grateful if someone could explain in a relatively simple way how to achieve this.
Very many thanks in advance for any help!
Ariel xxx
You need to have a better understanding of the device and how the applications are placed on it (that come from the operator o2 as well as your own ones).
What you are trying to do we refer to as cooking the exteneded rom.
What we mean by this is taking out components that are not needed or wanted and adding others such as today plugins.
Thus you can create a Exteneded rom and ship this with the update utilaty provided by the manufacture.
Please read the threads in wiki in the exteneded rom kitchen.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
As an operator can you get hold of:
"Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Adaptation Kit Update 2 (AKU2)"
This is shiped to HTC and then passed on to the operator (o2) thus you.

Cooks who cook 6.5 roms

This is technically an apps related question, but i figured that the cooks may no the answer. Is windows marketplace for mobile going to work on all devices that run 6.5, for example t-mobiles touch pro 2, or ONLY for devices that are officially supported for a 6.5 upgrade (at this point the t-mobile version isnt).
Thanks to those that can help.
All device!!!
Windows Marketplace is a service, it isn't a feature of the new OS....
may ,in future, be issued to install the program anywhere!

Microsoft bypass manufacturers to update WP?

I'm about to buy a WP device, and of course it's my first WP device so I was doing some research on it.
We know that Lumia devices to WP are like Nexus device to Android, which means first gets update to new system.
And recently there a lot of wallet-friendly WP phones comes out like Prestigio, Yezz, Blu... etc, and as I have wait for 2 months that Lumia 630 dual sim is still not available in my country so I'm thinking about prestigio multiphone 8500.
Only thing I'm worrying about is system update. I take no doubt it's not gonna be as fast as Lumia devices get.
And I read an article about an app "windows preview for developers", and appears it can run on Lumia, Huawei and Samsung.
So I was wondering how does WP work?
I mean, for example the Android , each device has its own driver so need manufacturer to do the update.
And WP doesn't work that way? just like we saw on PC, one system contains almost all driver?
Each OEM device contains the Windows Phone OS + OEM/Carrier specific firmwares that do include drivers that will add and tweak things for the specific version of WP.
The Preview for Developers program allows a user to update his or her phone to the latest version of the Windows Phone OS ONLY, keeping the current firmware that you had installed BEFORE you updated the OS via the preview for developers. Before updating, Microsoft informs you that if something goes wrong with your phone, that it CAN void your warranty (unless you can get back to a previous version of the OS to match the version that is in production for your carrier).
The carriers will release the OEM/Carrier updates when they are approved.
qtwrk said:
I'm about to buy a WP device, and of course it's my first WP device so I was doing some research on it.
We know that Lumia devices to WP are like Nexus device to Android, which means first gets update to new system.
And recently there a lot of wallet-friendly WP phones comes out like Prestigio, Yezz, Blu... etc, and as I have wait for 2 months that Lumia 630 dual sim is still not available in my country so I'm thinking about prestigio multiphone 8500.
Only thing I'm worrying about is system update. I take no doubt it's not gonna be as fast as Lumia devices get.
And I read an article about an app "windows preview for developers", and appears it can run on Lumia, Huawei and Samsung.
So I was wondering how does WP work?
I mean, for example the Android , each device has its own driver so need manufacturer to do the update.
And WP doesn't work that way? just like we saw on PC, one system contains almost all driver?
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Hi,
Firstly, although now Nokia's mobile division belongs to Microsoft, I do not think as long as it is a kind of exclusivity for updates. It's just that there are only a duo (or rather all in one) Microsoft/Nokia that move your ass, the rest of the manufacturers do almost nothing, and royally fu** Windows Phone (Huawei, HTC, Samsung, etc). It is therefore felt in the updates:
- Nokia first in almost all the time
- Huawei, HTC, Samsung, etc. last
All this because some OEMs do not want to bet (big) on Windows Phone. This is unfortunate.
In addition, the updates via the Developers Preview for all models of Windows Phone 8 uild OS updates have the same time. Namely, since the GDR3 Preview, the Preview status updates become official once the release for everyone (almost no change the build version between of Preview/official).
On Windows Phone, the packages the OS portion and the firmware part *are separated*, which means that one can go without the other.
Some example (Nokia):
- Preview GDR3 WP8.0 on Lumia Amber (Lumia Amber is fully compatible under GDR2 WP8.0).
- Preview WP8.1 on Lumia Black (Lumia Black is fully compatible under GDR2 WP8.0).
- Preview GDR1 WP8.1 on Lumia Cyan (Lumia Cyan is fully compatible in WP8.1).
- Etc. (along with other OEM).
Of course, for each GDR (at minimum), OEMs need to update their firmware to make it fully compatible at this level (software-hardware).
anaheiim said:
Hi,
Firstly, although now Nokia's mobile division belongs to Microsoft, I do not think as long as it is a kind of exclusivity for updates. It's just that there are only a duo (or rather all in one) Microsoft/Nokia that move your ass, the rest of the manufacturers do almost nothing, and royally fu** Windows Phone (Huawei, HTC, Samsung, etc). It is therefore felt in the updates:
- Nokia first in almost all the time
- Huawei, HTC, Samsung, etc. last
All this because some OEMs do not want to bet (big) on Windows Phone. This is unfortunate.
In addition, the updates via the Developers Preview for all models of Windows Phone 8 uild OS updates have the same time. Namely, since the GDR3 Preview, the Preview status updates become official once the release for everyone (almost no change the build version between of Preview/official).
On Windows Phone, the packages the OS portion and the firmware part *are separated*, which means that one can go without the other.
Some example (Nokia):
- Preview GDR3 WP8.0 on Lumia Amber (Lumia Amber is fully compatible under GDR2 WP8.0).
- Preview WP8.1 on Lumia Black (Lumia Black is fully compatible under GDR2 WP8.0).
- Preview GDR1 WP8.1 on Lumia Cyan (Lumia Cyan is fully compatible in WP8.1).
- Etc. (along with other OEM).
Of course, for each GDR (at minimum), OEMs need to update their firmware to make it fully compatible at this level (software-hardware).
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thanks for your reply.
please forgive my stupidity and poor english, about GDR, can I take it like a big update on Windows , like Service Pack ? at least that's how I felt about this thing ...
what do you mean "Amber", "Black" and "Cyan" ? I assume it's like system name ? like TouchWiz , SenseUI and something ?
so I assume i bought a Prestigio Multiphone 8500 duo (WP8.1) , is it possible i get WP8.1 GDR1 myself ? (even somehow it's problematic and not fully compatible) or I must wait for OEM to do it ?
qtwrk said:
thanks for your reply.
please forgive my stupidity and poor english, about GDR, can I take it like a big update on Windows , like Service Pack ? at least that's how I felt about this thing ...
what do you mean "Amber", "Black" and "Cyan" ? I assume it's like system name ? like TouchWiz , SenseUI and something ?
so I assume i bought a Prestigio Multiphone 8500 duo (WP8.1) , is it possible i get WP8.1 GDR1 myself ? (even somehow it's problematic and not fully compatible) or I must wait for OEM to do it ?
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GDR means "General Distribution Release". GDRs provide bug fixes, modifications of any kind, add features, etc.
If Windows Phone 8 would "equal" (excuse the term) at Windows 7 (not Windows 8, because there are more Service Pack on this version), then yes a GDR would be about equal to a Service Pack.
Lumia Amber, Lumia Black and Lumia Cyan are firmware developed by Nokia. They contain all sorts of things, such as drivers, features, assembly (dll/exe), etc.
Basically, it is the firmware that makes the link between the hardware and the software. All other manufacturers are developing the firmwares for their Windows Phone, only they do not give of name at of their firmware. Nokia does.
All Windows Phone 8 will get the GDR1 of WP8.1, even your device (either by voice Preview, or by the official voice).
anaheiim said:
GDR means "General Distribution Release". GDRs provide bug fixes, modifications of any kind, add features, etc.
If Windows Phone 8 would "equal" (excuse the term) at Windows 7 (not Windows 8, because there are more Service Pack on this version), then yes a GDR would be about equal to a Service Pack.
Lumia Amber, Lumia Black and Lumia Cyan are firmware developed by Nokia. They contain all sorts of things, such as drivers, features, assembly (dll/exe), etc.
Basically, it is the firmware that makes the link between the hardware and the software. All other manufacturers are developing the firmwares for their Windows Phone, only they do not give of name at of their firmware. Nokia does.
All Windows Phone 8 will get the GDR1 of WP8.1, even your device (either by voice Preview, or by the official voice).
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if I may , i'd like to know something more about WP.
as we can see in Android , the eco-system is full of fragment , and Google couldn't push OEMs to update their devices, does Microsoft have more control over this matter ?
I mean , how could Microsoft to be so sure about all WP8 devices will get GDR1 ? for Lumia series I can understand , but what about devices of Huawei , Samsung and other OEMs ? how could Microsoft guarantee the update on NO-Lumia devices ?
qtwrk said:
if I may , i'd like to know something more about WP.
as we can see in Android , the eco-system is full of fragment , and Google couldn't push OEMs to update their devices, does Microsoft have more control over this matter ?
I mean , how could Microsoft to be so sure about all WP8 devices will get GDR1 ? for Lumia series I can understand , but what about devices of Huawei , Samsung and other OEMs ? how could Microsoft guarantee the update on NO-Lumia devices ?
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All Windows Phone 8 device has support in terms of updates. Support for Windows Phone 8 will normally end at the latest in 2016 (for some device).
On this point, you do not have to inquitez, not before long (and in hope that Microsoft to learn from their mistake with WP7).
anaheiim said:
All Windows Phone 8 device has support in terms of updates. Support for Windows Phone 8 will normally end at the latest in 2016 (for some device).
On this point, you do not have to inquitez, not before long (and in hope that Microsoft to learn from their mistake with WP7).
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with all due respect sir , i think you misunderstood me ...
my main question is , how could Microsoft possibly to oversee the update over all other OEMs ? for Lumia , there is no doubts about that ...
like they've made a contract , agreement , or such thing ?
we see how the looser Google is, in the control, special the update part of Android ...:crying:
Microsoft controls the phone update servers. If an OEM doesn't want to release an update for their phone, MS could (in theory) just push the OS update to all users of that phone anyhow. This would be functionally equivalent to using the Preview For Developers option, except doing it for everybody instead of just those who opted into it.
PFD allows you to update any WP8 device from any OEM and on any carrier as though it were an Android Nexus device: you get the updates as soon as Microsoft publishes them, without waiting on OEM/MO customizations and without the OEM or MO having any opportunity to block or delay the update unless it breaks on their firmware (in which case MS will stop pushing the update until it's fixed).

[Q] Changing device display language

First of all, I own a HTC Radar which is a WP7 device. I purposely post in this forum as I think it is way more active than WP7 forum. The thing is: WP7 supports far less display languages than WP8 does. For example, there is no Croatian language in WP7. My question is, is there any way to "add" new languages to WP7 unofficially or to alter existing languages so their translations would match to Croatian? Or is there any way to use Croatian from WP8 on WP7?
Thanks in advance!
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Actual plans regarding this phone on XDA

Hi everyone,
I bought this phone because I liked the prospect of a proper physical keyboard and especially an "officially" supported and updated LineageOS image by XDA. I won't go on a rant about the downgrade in processor etc., it sucks but it is what it is. What I am more curious about is what are XDAs plans for a proper official LineageOS image? I was content to wait until one comes out so I have a phone shipped from the beginning with an officially flashed device on an officially supported OS. Now that they shipped every device with a stock Google ROM I'd like to know the estimated timetable. Does it make sense to wait with configuring everything before I put it to use and can switch directly to a LineageOS image? Or is that still months away and I should bite the bullet on the stock ROM (ugh...)?
Edit: I wanted to ask how to get the physical keyboard to German, because I ordered a German QWERTZ layout, but everything was still english (I typed Y and it showed a Z). But I found it in the physical settings, below Pro1X you can select different layouts and it applies it to the physical keyboard. Yay!
So far I am pleased with the manufacturing, but please give us an estimate on a Lineage OS build. Thank you very much.
Kind regards
Maamue
hi there,
in the settings you can search after "physische Tastatur" -> Fxtec Pro1 -> Tastaturlayout einrichten
there you can change the layout from the keyboard

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