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I need some special help here, please.
In older PPC models (Cingular 8125/8525 and Sprint PPC 6700), it was possible to type accented characters by pressing the unaccented character and then holding down Fn and pressing Spacebar until the desired character was displayed. On the Tilt, the Symbols keystroke has been changed to Fn+OK (I can live with that), but now instead of cycling through the relevant accented characters, we get a SIP full of irrelevant symbols and we have to scroll until we find the desired one.
This new method is inconvenient for those of us bilingual folks who frequently type in a non-English language, but more important, this method is not compatible with screen reader programs for the blind, as keyboard focus remains on the document and the user is expected to tap symbols via the touchscreen.
I've read somewhere that the TyTN II uses the old-school method (Fn+OK/Sym) to cycle through the relevant accented characters. Short of reflashing a Tilt with a TyTN II ROM, is there some registry setting we can tweak to get the Tilt to use the traditional symbols behavior?
BUMP. Anyone? Please.
yea i would like to see this happen too. it annoys the hell out of me when im typing in a web address and i try to do it the old school style to get my forward slash
Figured it out.
HKLM\Hardware\Devicemap\Keybd
Setting for the value CWSLayout should be changed from 1 to 0.
This sets the Tilt to use the keyboard layout of the TyTN II, which means some symbols have different placement. I'm OK with that as now I'm happily typing on my Tilt's QWERTY keyboard without language constraints.
pdtp said:
yea i would like to see this happen too. it annoys the hell out of me when im typing in a web address and i try to do it the old school style to get my forward slash
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The forward slash / is Fn+R on mine. It was before I made the layout change and it still is on the same place.
Anyone know if that works? Or do we simply have the on-screen-qwerty-keyboard?
Click on the Keboard button so you get a list of QWERTY etc. Pick other input methods . You will find what you need in here . eg Block Recogniser , transcriber etc
What I'm asking for is:
Can I use the pencil and "draw" letters that then become words like I can on SonyEricsson P1i
Yes, Transcriber and Black/Letter recogniser do just that.
Is that a program you need to install or is it included in the box? I can't get it to work...
What do you mean you can't get it work? Because by asking whether is included or not I suppose you haven't found where it is.
Well, try writing a text message. Click on the small arrow on the bottom of the screen right next to the keyboard icon. It should pop up a window mentioning the different keyboards the diamond has (phone keyboard, compact qwerty, full qwerty etc..) At the bottom of this list there is another arrow pointing right called other input methods. Click on it and then you get a new scroll down list with the options that were mentioned before: transcriber, block recognizer, letter recognizer etc. Choose letter recognizer for example and go back to the screen where you are supposed to type the text message and you will see at the bottom of the screen the area where you are supposed to "draw" the letters.
Furthmore, read the manual...
I think this is quite detailed
CarpeNoctum:
Thank you, thank you, thank you
I will try that once I get back from work and have my Diamond in my hands again
Xophile said:
CarpeNoctum:
Thank you, thank you, thank you
I will try that once I get back from work and have my Diamond in my hands again
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Just a heads up...
The transcriber in the Diamond, isn't as good as the one in the SE P series.
I was a bit disappointed. (I am used to the P series.. )
Another option would be - in HTC Diamond - to use Letter Recogniser.
Yeah, you can't write just anywhere on the screen with that (you have a line at the bottom, where you may DRAW - as you say - your letters and have them displayed..)
Personal view.. Letter Recogniser works better than the transcriber.
All the best
Is it possible to recognize a handritten note later after writing it. I mean i have old notes from an older device with handwritten letters. Is there a way I can make my diamond recognize them as letters ?
L o r d R a j said:
Just a heads up...
The transcriber in the Diamond, isn't as good as the one in the SE P series.
I was a bit disappointed. (I am used to the P series.. )
Another option would be - in HTC Diamond - to use Letter Recogniser.
Yeah, you can't write just anywhere on the screen with that (you have a line at the bottom, where you may DRAW - as you say - your letters and have them displayed..)
Personal view.. Letter Recogniser works better than the transcriber.
All the best
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True.. Actually the Letter Recognizer works quite well for me.
transcriber works over the whole screen, only the block recogniser has a line to draw under.
Hmm i have neither block recognizer or letter recognizer on my danish 1.37. Is there some reg stuff to do to enable it? (and yes, i have looked the right places, only have the 3 htc keyboards and the standard ms full keyboard)
Epedemic said:
Hmm i have neither block recognizer or letter recognizer on my danish 1.37. Is there some reg stuff to do to enable it? (and yes, i have looked the right places, only have the 3 htc keyboards and the standard ms full keyboard)
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Same here
It should be simple enough for soemone clever enough to make up a cab file for Transcriber.
For example Bepe has taken it out of his ROM so I suspect could easily repackage it as an optional cab for anyone to use.
Just a thought.
I don't have any recognition neither... I can just type, not draw letters to be recognized
Also missing in my Danish Rom
Also missing in my Dutch rom.
Rod65 said:
Is it possible to recognize a handritten note later after writing it. I mean i have old notes from an older device with handwritten letters. Is there a way I can make my diamond recognize them as letters ?
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No, you need a program like phatpad to do that.
http://www.phatware.com
Also while you're there, look at Calligrapher 8.6
no luck here either
Also missing on the Swedish 1.37 original rom. These kind of small missing things pisses me off, looking around in the menues for hours with no luck, but I am sure there will be some fix for it somehow.
Any news on this? Also from Sweden here and no transcriber...
I just bought my Galaxy Tab yesterday, and it's pretty awesome. I also bought the keyboard dock, and it's excellent except for one super annoying problem: If you hit space while holding shift, it changes the language. In my case, it doesn't do anything (Just says ENGLISH on the screen), but it's really annoying to have that pop up every time I type a sentence with caps or punctuation in it.
For example: Typing "WOW! THIS IS AWESOME!" would be easy. You just hold shift while typing the whole sentence. On the tab, at every space it acts as though I have pressed the Lang key on the keyboard. This only happens with the hardware keyboard.
I did some mucking around in system files (/system/usr/keylayout/), and noticed p1_keyboard.kl, but only the actual Lang key is mapped to LANG. When I commented that line out, my Lang key was disabled, but the Space+Shift still "worked" and popped "English" up on my screen. The Freedom Pro drivers have an option to disable shift+space, but the regular samsung keyboard does not. Any idea how to get rid of this incredibly annoying behavior?
Edit: I just noticed that this "feature" is documented in the manual. No way to disable it is mentioned.
Just a quick update: I've contacted Samsung Support via twitter, but they didn't have a galaxy tab available with a keyboard dock. Seriously. Samsung Support didn't have a galaxy tab with external keyboard to even test the issue. I'm trying e-mail next. Frankly, having shift+space change the language when there is a language button RIGHT NEXT TO THE SPACEBAR is insane.
I think I have to make my own solution to this one. Of course, I can't post in the developers section yet, so I can't really ask for help there either. I'm fairly certain that the solution isn't /system/usr/keylayout/p1_keyboard.kl because, while there is a LANG button mapped, disabling it merely disables the actual LANG button on the keyboard. Shift + Space continues to switch the language.
This is literally making me not use the keyboard, because if I type "I", and hold shift a bit too long, ENGLISH shows up on my screen. If I'm typing a sentence with lots of caps or acronyms, ENGLISH is on the screen pretty much the entire time because I'm holding shift. Any help at all would be appreciated.
tntc said:
Just a quick update: I've contacted Samsung Support via twitter, but they didn't have a galaxy tab available with a keyboard dock. Seriously. Samsung Support didn't have a galaxy tab with external keyboard to even test the issue. I'm trying e-mail next. Frankly, having shift+space change the language when there is a language button RIGHT NEXT TO THE SPACEBAR is insane.
I think I have to make my own solution to this one. Of course, I can't post in the developers section yet, so I can't really ask for help there either. I'm fairly certain that the solution isn't /system/usr/keylayout/p1_keyboard.kl because, while there is a LANG button mapped, disabling it merely disables the actual LANG button on the keyboard. Shift + Space continues to switch the language.
This is literally making me not use the keyboard, because if I type "I", and hold shift a bit too long, ENGLISH shows up on my screen. If I'm typing a sentence with lots of caps or acronyms, ENGLISH is on the screen pretty much the entire time because I'm holding shift. Any help at all would be appreciated.
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Did you by chance get any answers to this issue? I am having the same issue and it's driving me nuts. Almost every sentence that I write I have to backspace and start over.
Hey everyone, I came across this post while searching for a way to disable the SHIFT+SPACE keyboard shortcut (Stupid!).
So, while it's default in Samsung Keyboard, other keyboards allow other options. I installed "Google keyboard", and now everything works great, and I don't have the annoying popup everytime I hold shift too long before a space!
Hello, I'm resurrecting this thread because shift space is still an issue in Samsung Keyboard. Gboard (what Google Keyboard is called now) solved this problem for me, too. -- Ronald Althenn, former Samsung call center analyst
I've installed GBoard, but Samsung Keyboard shortcuts still work. When I look at keyboard setting for my physical keyboard, I can see that both keyboard layouts (GBoard & Samsung) are present. I can't seem to find a way to force my device (Note 8) to only use GBoard layout.
Thoughts?
Sorry for the late reply. I dropped my phone recently and started having that same issue. Even with gboard installed, I am never going to need to change my language using shift space, ever, and yet even when I'm using sidesync just so I can see my screen, English pops up all the time and eats up my space. I am trying to find other ways of fixing this. I will post again soon.
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Okay, I think I've got it. When there is an external keyboard attached in sidesync, you must use the Select Keyboard notification and choose Gboard. This is where the proper command hooks get installed. Shift space comes out as a space when I type using gboard. If you have a "Select External Keyboard" notification, don't change it there, because shift space still popped up English for me until I used the first notification.
This is insanely complicated, I know. I wish I was a Samsung dev; I'd submit a change to fix that. I'll have a job soon, I hope.
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This issue reported in Samsung US Community, please upvote to have it fi.xed:
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Physical Keyboard: Shift+Space triggering language change makes external keyboard impossible to use "Communuity" "Samsung"
tntc said:
I just bought my Galaxy Tab yesterday, and it's pretty awesome. I also bought the keyboard dock, and it's excellent except for one super annoying problem: If you hit space while holding shift, it changes the language. In my case, it doesn't do anything (Just says ENGLISH on the screen), but it's really annoying to have that pop up every time I type a sentence with caps or punctuation in it.
For example: Typing "WOW! THIS IS AWESOME!" would be easy. You just hold shift while typing the whole sentence. On the tab, at every space it acts as though I have pressed the Lang key on the keyboard. This only happens with the hardware keyboard.
I did some mucking around in system files (/system/usr/keylayout/), and noticed p1_keyboard.kl, but only the actual Lang key is mapped to LANG. When I commented that line out, my Lang key was disabled, but the Space+Shift still "worked" and popped "English" up on my screen. The Freedom Pro drivers have an option to disable shift+space, but the regular samsung keyboard does not. Any idea how to get rid of this incredibly annoying behavior?
Edit: I just noticed that this "feature" is documented in the manual. No way to disable it is mentioned.
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This issue is now more annoying than ever thanks to DeX forcing you to use the Samsung Keyboard.
You can manually disable the Samsung Keyboard via ADB, but doing so results in either:
* phone screen waking/blurring whenever clicking into a type field in DeX
* DeX hard crashing and requiring a wipe of app data via ADB if you try to force the on-screen keyboard in DeX from "phone" to "monitor" while Samsung Keyboard is disabled
Keep reporting this crap to Samsung until they at the very least add a simple toggle to disable the shift-space "feature."
OMG I HATE this stupid thing!!!!!!!!!! so much, I don't understand, if ctrl+space is switching lang already, wtf do you put something like shift (very common)! I HATE this so much to the degree I might retrun the whole thing
Finally they've changed that stupid thing. Now you can go Settings->General Management->Language and Input->Physical keyboard->Change language shortcut
Using a bluetooth keyboard with my S10+. I disabled the toggle you mention here, but shift+space still does nothing (literally nothing too, it doesn't say "English" or anything like that on screen when I push it).
My primary touch keyboard is G-Board as well.
Hi.
When typing (i'm mostly using the keypad keyboard, (to large hands ) whenever i see that there is an word not in the dictionary, i would like to add it, and in the same time correct whatever the phone allready has suggested..
Here's the thing... i can not find an easy way to do it... now i have to mark the word and press/hold to get the menu to add it to the dictionary.. this alone is a bit enoying, but if its a completely different word, and i correct it in the popup box, when i hit ok, it does not insert the word i just corrected, but leaves the word i originaly typed... so then i have to delete the word, and type again... this seems a bit unnessesary..
Anyone know of a better way?
Stock rom, stock LG keypad/keyboard
+1, i'd love to have the ability to import, say, text files and let the dictionary picks it up from that.
Hi Guys,
I was thinking about buying a Samsung Ativ S because my Android device isn't working correctly.
But there is one point which makes me thinking about staying with Android.
Therefore i wanted to ask, if there is a Swiftkey equivalent on WP?
Or is the WP keyboard also capable of adapting the predictions to the words i often type, even if i type some words in an uncommon way?
Thanks in advance
Cheers
It's quite capable of adapting to the words you type, although if the word is not in its dictionary (which is quite comprehensive, in my experience) you will need to add it manually (easily done). Correct the word (or undo an auto-correction) a few times and it will quickly learn. With that said, I don't know Swiftkey (and the keyboard can not *currently* be changed, although the ATIV S is the WP8 model that we're closest to achieving that with). It's quite possible that there are specific features of Swiftkey that you're looking for which WP8 does not provide.
Thanks for your answer. The cool thing in using Swiftkey is that if you are typing a word it is predicting the next word without typing the first letter.
Is it the same in WP?
And another question, does the WP messaging app convert a SMS to MMS after having more than 480 (three SMS) characters typed in, because that is a thing which, in my opinion is weird "feature" in a time in which nearly everyone does have a flatrate in sending SMS?
Cheers
The WP8 keyboard will offer auto-complete options for the next word based on what you've typed so far, yes. You need to manually select them - no just hitting Space, Space, Space to type the next three words - but it's very easy to do.
I don't know what the threshold is (I don't write long SMS very often, and for people who don't have unlimited SMS I use chat) but WP8 will combine sufficiently long multi-SMS messages into a single MMS, yes.