Hello everyone sorry if I am posting this when there is an answer somewhere already on the forums. I have searched multiple times with no straight forward answer but that doesn't mean there isn't an answer that I overlooked.
I am new to the forum as well as Android. I recently purchased a Samsung Captivate through AT&T. I have been reading up on rooting the device and majorly concidering it to get the AT&T Bloatware off. Of the many, many, sites I have read on up I found One Click Root for Samsung Captivate through this forum, which hopefully will work properly, I do not see why it wouldn't.
This brings me to my first question, if I root my device, install Titanium Backup and uninstall the bloatware, can I then uninstall Titanium Backup and unroot my device? Or must I leave Titanium Backup installed for the "Backup" purposes?
My second question is if I root my device and uninstall bloatware ONLY, will I receive and be able to download OTA updates that become avaliable? ( I am aware I will lose root if installed, just currious as to if it will even let me update. )
My only reason for rooting is to get rid of the bloatware, I am hoping I can remove the bloatware and then unroot because I do not have any use for being rooted once they are removed.
I do not plan on flashing any custom ROM, I am leaving the stock ROM just removing the applications and touching nothing else. I know I have read that if I change from the ROM I will not be able to receive OTAUs...
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance for the help. I am very good with computers and a certified ARES tech, know HTML. Just trying to grasp this whole Android thing comming from a iPhone (SO FAR SO GOOD) ... I don't think I'm too lost... yet.
If all you want to do is get rid of the bloatware, download LauncherPro and hide the icons. Much easier and the phone is much better with LP.
One Click Root works great. I've used it many times without issue.
I have used Titanium Backup to remove unwanted apps. Personally I leave it installed, and use to it to backup all of my apps, and save them to my External SD.
Personally I would leave the root in place, and also consider Sideloading it. It'll allow you to install "unapproved" apps.
I do not know how this might affect your ability to receive OTA. I think I remember hearing something around the time of the JH7 OTA release. I did some looking around and couldn't find it
Thanks for the help. I decided to put my worry aside as far as OTA updates go and go ahead and root the phone and remove bloatware.
I used one click root (which worked perfect) to root the device, downloaded Titanium Backup, and removed all the AT&T junk, and a couple things from Samsung I had no use for. Acually I kinda took my phones life in my own hands and uninstalled more than the lists I have found said to, but I figured if worst come to worst and it bricked I could just return it to Wal-Mart's AT&T kiosk since I was still on my thirty day guarantee. (No ma'am, I have NO IDEA what happened. )
Anyways the phone functioned fine so apparently I didn't do anything I shouldn't have. I only ran in to one problem and that was when I unrooted using the One Click (wanted to try it and see if it worked as good as the root) my phone came back on and was doing crazy stuff... locking out of nowhere, slow, didn't have the notification bar, nor any network connectivity after many reboots. Still in the same mindset that I could just make a trip to Wal-Mart, I did a factory reset. Phone came up and everything is perfect, bloatware is still gone and it took away my root apps which I was probubly going to end up doing anyways.
From what I finally found after a couple hours searching online is that theres a chance I won't be able to OTA update, however I shouldn't have a problem using Kies Mini to update instead of the OTA. Apparently AT&T's servers are getting overwelmed and people are having connection problems... even non rooted users.
We will see I guess when Froyo is (finally) released on AT&T.
Thanks again for the help!
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I had a wifi only Tab before so I'm not unfamiliar with Tab devices. Or so I thought. I bought a Sprint Tab off Woot recently. I sold the Wifi Tab on ebay and basically traded up for better hardware at no cost.
Anyway, the Tab from Sprint came in today and I find I have two questions.
1. This Tab appears to have no internal memory. When I go to settings for the SD card, it only sees my external card. That's also all that maps on my computer. The Wifi Tab had either 8 or 16 gb internal plus and external card. Is this normal?
2. I was under the impression that I was going to have to activate this thing with Sprint for at least a month. That doesn't appear to be the case though. It does gripe at me to activate, but doesn't seem to be forcing me to do so and even without being activated has pulled down at least two OTA updates. Is this normal?
1. This Tab appears to have no internal memory. When I go to settings for the SD card, it only sees my external card. That's also all that maps on my computer. The Wifi Tab had either 8 or 16 gb internal plus and external card. Is this normal?
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Your internal memory is not an sd card. It isn't listed in that section.
2. I was under the impression that I was going to have to activate this thing with Sprint for at least a month. That doesn't appear to be the case though. It does gripe at me to activate, but doesn't seem to be forcing me to do so and even without being activated has pulled down at least two OTA updates. Is this normal?
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Pulling down the updates occurs over wifi, it will happen regardless of CDMA service.
If you want to get rid of the hassles:
First root, use superoneclick, its the easiest method.
Then use a program such as root uninstaller to uninstall sprintadroidextension.apk (you can also freeze it, allegedly).
Once you do this, be aware that if Sprint updates it won't download properly and start harassing you about that instead (albeit less frequently). The only solutions are to reflash back to stock and then update, or modify your build.prop file to change the build id (I used remount and notepad to do it).
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Your internal memory is not an sd card. It isn't listed in that section.
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It was on my wifi tab.
Pulling down the updates occurs over wifi, it will happen regardless of CDMA service.
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It pulled down two updates before I even connected it to my wifi.
I rooted with SuperOneClick and now have these OTA's downloading... I'm wondering what the pro's and con's are with taking these two OTA's? Have you already rooted prior to taking the OTA's?
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I rooted with SuperOneClick and now have these OTA's downloading... I'm wondering what the pro's and con's are with taking these two OTA's? Have you already rooted prior to taking the OTA's?
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No, I got the OTA's before rooting. I turned it on and one was there. It rebooted and another was there right away.
Well I guess I'll find out when I get home if it loses root, which I assume can be restored again... rather, I hope :]
I guess next for me is recovery... seems like the UnLocker page has a nice write up, but I seen mixed reviews on Sprint tabs. I always have a certain degree of comfort when I'm able to backup/recover.
You given that any thought yet? Or you keeping it stock?
Honestly, the only reason I root is because of backup. I like being able to get a core level backup with Titanium and I like being able to restore all of my apps plus all their data on a new device. I've rooted every tablet I've owned (all three of them) but never tried to flash a new ROM or even considered it.
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Honestly, the only reason I root is because of backup. I like being able to get a core level backup with Titanium and I like being able to restore all of my apps plus all their data on a new device. I've rooted every tablet I've owned (all three of them) but never tried to flash a new ROM or even considered it.
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I hear that! My intentions for buying this was simply to modify it to run HC once Spacemoose gets a stable build up.
A. Nonymous said:
Honestly, the only reason I root is because of backup. I like being able to get a core level backup with Titanium and I like being able to restore all of my apps plus all their data on a new device. I've rooted every tablet I've owned (all three of them) but never tried to flash a new ROM or even considered it.
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Have you seen this video/write-up from TheUnlocker?
I'm thinking I may give this a shot to get CWM recovery... debating if I want to chance screwing up my device on day 1 though :]
I'd definitely like to root my Bionic so that I can debloat and get Titanium up and running.
Question is, is there a way to back out and return the phone to stock? Is there a function similar to "Nand Backup" that can be used prior to attempting the 1-step method?
It looks like the 1-step process is "idiot proof", but after many ROM load ups on my Eris, I know that there is no such thing and a Nand backup has saved me a few times.
Additionally, as with all new phones I'm expecting an update or two to fix any initial problems. I would assume that you will need to be back to stock to get them ... Of course there is that chance that any update will trash the root ability.
I would also like to know if anyone has attempted getting the phone back-to-stock. I thought I read somewhere that Pete's tool will undo the rooting as well, and it's reasonable to assume that if it has both functions, and it successfully rooted the phone, it can un-root it too. But all the same, it'd be nice to know if it has been done successfully ahead of time.
Classic example of not having "a way back" leaving your nice, new, shiny Bionic possibly hamstrung (MyDroidWorld Forums):
Default Bionic NFL Mobile Force Close...
So I got my bionic today (its sweet!) - I rooted the second I got it home, ran the remove bloatware script... I'm not sure if NFL mobile was installed before I ran it or not, but it was not installed after the fact. I went to the market and installed it - Force Close immediately, every time I try to run it. I even rebooted and got the same problem.
Is this a problem with NFL mobile / Droid / or did I break something?
Exactly! Though I personally WANT the NFL app gone, I want to make sure the script doesn't do anything I don't want it to first, as well as make sure it can be undone.
PS: I just got my Bionic, and it IS sweet!
I know it may seem counterproductive to ask about rooting my G2 just to turn around and unroot it, but hear me out first.
My initial G2 developed display issues and Verizon shipped me off a "new" one. After setting up the new device, everything was good except that some of the apps had to be setup again and one huge thing - my Wi-Fi information did not get transferred. Sadly, of the 40 to 50 networks I have saved on my old G2, many of them have passwords that are lost to me and I really want to try to save them.
I know I can root the G2 and get them but if after I send the old G2 back they find it "altered", they will charge me for a new phone. That said, is there a way to get my Wi-Fi information without rooting? I have used 3 different Google accounts and done the factory reset 4 or 5 times in hopes something would help but no dice. Assuming there is nothing that can be done without rooting, what is the least intrusive, just get me access to the system files and unroot so one might not be able to tell it was rooted, method?
Thanks very much in advance.
Hi there, I recently purchased an t710 which I upgraded to 5.1.1. I'm wondering if there is any reason to wait rooting this device and tripping knox. I purchased an extended warranty for accidental etc from squaretrade so I'm not too worried.
What do you think? Also this is the first touch device I ever owned and I've never owned any smart devices other than a blackberry curve 8330. :victory: I am however quite savvy with computers in general. I've strayed from these devices due to high cost and high toss rate.
Couldn't hurt to throw in some app recommendations too! I sure would like to customize a bit more than samsung is allowing me to.
In addition to my original question, what's the best root and image available for my galaxy tab s2 t710 currently? I wasn't quite sure as there are a few. Does flashing one of the images wipe everything?
Also, as I understand it, many knox features have to be paid for with a regular subscription or something and the applications are not fantastic currently. Am I wrong?
Feel free to add anything you think I should know, also app recommendations would be great. Thanks!
Well, I took the plunge anyway, but I didn't do a backup with TWRP, everything is working but I forgot. Besides knox status, I'm assuming there's a way to undo this correct? like factory reset? Or did I screw it up (If I need to that is.)
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Well, I took the plunge anyway, but I didn't do a backup with TWRP, everything is working but I forgot. Besides knox status, I'm assuming there's a way to undo this correct? like factory reset? Or did I screw it up (If I need to that is.)
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Knox status doesn't totally matter its more for secure environments like corporate or government to know that a device has been compromised.
Samsung and carriers often still warranty devices that have the Knox flag tripped.
To answer your question though, there is no way to undo a Knox flag.
Hey, I said besides knox status lol. I meant since I didn't backup in twrp before flashing root is there still a way to restore default firmware if necessary? Also how do I disable the securitylogger? People have mentioned it on the forums but I can't seem to find how to do that, thanks.
The only adverse effect I have noted so far was having to re-enter my wifi password.
Can anyone recommend a decent busybox? I installed this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en but is it the best one truly? The only other root program I have installed is AdAway. Actually, any decent app recommendations would be great, thanks!
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Hey, I said besides knox status lol. I meant since I didn't backup in twrp before flashing root is there still a way to restore default firmware if necessary? Also how do I disable the securitylogger? People have mentioned it on the forums but I can't seem to find how to do that, thanks.
The only adverse effect I have noted so far was having to re-enter my wifi password.
Can anyone recommend a decent busybox? I installed this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en but is it the best one truly? The only other root program I have installed is AdAway. Actually, any decent app recommendations would be great, thanks!
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For what reason do you need to install busybox? Unless you have a real need for it why install it and cause more issues?
I can't think of a real single time I've ever needed busy box.
Xposed, Root explorer and Titanium backup are the 3 apps I use on every device I have.
auto rotate suddenly stopped working after I rebooted the tablet, I tried doing a factory reset but that hasn't fixed it, it won't go into landscape mode. Any ideas to fix this?
I just rebooted it through TWRP instead of inside the system and that fixed it, why the heck wouldn't a factory reset? anyone ever hear of this issue before?
A slap on the back has been known to fix it.
Hi, I've had my Note 5 since release day and I haven't done much to it since.
I want to do a fresh reinstall since there's a lot of crap on there after 2 years and it's pretty bloated. I've taken note of apps I have, settings, etc. Should there be anything else I do before a reinstall?
I'm also a bit interested in rooting for stuff like adblockers, backups, etc. I remember searching about it a year ago and rooting messed up something with Knox, is that still a problem?
I have the model SM-N920W8 with Android version 6.0.1. Would there be any further updates worth trying out?
Thanks for any help!
Make sure that you backup on your google account and samsung account.
Samsung account will also back up your S-notes and sketches.
I would also like to root, but the knox tripping issue and the fact that some apps (e.g. Barclays banking) won't work if they detect root, puts me off for this device.
A fresh install can definitely bring new life, but make sure you run package-disabler to de-bloat the phone.
good luck