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[Q] OTA Updates

Hello everyone sorry if I am posting this when there is an answer somewhere already on the forums. I have searched multiple times with no straight forward answer but that doesn't mean there isn't an answer that I overlooked.
I am new to the forum as well as Android. I recently purchased a Samsung Captivate through AT&T. I have been reading up on rooting the device and majorly concidering it to get the AT&T Bloatware off. Of the many, many, sites I have read on up I found One Click Root for Samsung Captivate through this forum, which hopefully will work properly, I do not see why it wouldn't.
This brings me to my first question, if I root my device, install Titanium Backup and uninstall the bloatware, can I then uninstall Titanium Backup and unroot my device? Or must I leave Titanium Backup installed for the "Backup" purposes?
My second question is if I root my device and uninstall bloatware ONLY, will I receive and be able to download OTA updates that become avaliable? ( I am aware I will lose root if installed, just currious as to if it will even let me update. )
My only reason for rooting is to get rid of the bloatware, I am hoping I can remove the bloatware and then unroot because I do not have any use for being rooted once they are removed.
I do not plan on flashing any custom ROM, I am leaving the stock ROM just removing the applications and touching nothing else. I know I have read that if I change from the ROM I will not be able to receive OTAUs...
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance for the help. I am very good with computers and a certified ARES tech, know HTML. Just trying to grasp this whole Android thing comming from a iPhone (SO FAR SO GOOD) ... I don't think I'm too lost... yet.

If all you want to do is get rid of the bloatware, download LauncherPro and hide the icons. Much easier and the phone is much better with LP.

One Click Root works great. I've used it many times without issue.
I have used Titanium Backup to remove unwanted apps. Personally I leave it installed, and use to it to backup all of my apps, and save them to my External SD.
Personally I would leave the root in place, and also consider Sideloading it. It'll allow you to install "unapproved" apps.
I do not know how this might affect your ability to receive OTA. I think I remember hearing something around the time of the JH7 OTA release. I did some looking around and couldn't find it

Thanks for the help. I decided to put my worry aside as far as OTA updates go and go ahead and root the phone and remove bloatware.
I used one click root (which worked perfect) to root the device, downloaded Titanium Backup, and removed all the AT&T junk, and a couple things from Samsung I had no use for. Acually I kinda took my phones life in my own hands and uninstalled more than the lists I have found said to, but I figured if worst come to worst and it bricked I could just return it to Wal-Mart's AT&T kiosk since I was still on my thirty day guarantee. (No ma'am, I have NO IDEA what happened. )
Anyways the phone functioned fine so apparently I didn't do anything I shouldn't have. I only ran in to one problem and that was when I unrooted using the One Click (wanted to try it and see if it worked as good as the root) my phone came back on and was doing crazy stuff... locking out of nowhere, slow, didn't have the notification bar, nor any network connectivity after many reboots. Still in the same mindset that I could just make a trip to Wal-Mart, I did a factory reset. Phone came up and everything is perfect, bloatware is still gone and it took away my root apps which I was probubly going to end up doing anyways.
From what I finally found after a couple hours searching online is that theres a chance I won't be able to OTA update, however I shouldn't have a problem using Kies Mini to update instead of the OTA. Apparently AT&T's servers are getting overwelmed and people are having connection problems... even non rooted users.
We will see I guess when Froyo is (finally) released on AT&T.
Thanks again for the help!

safe to say 6.0 won't make it any easier to root? should I wait?

Hi there, I recently purchased an t710 which I upgraded to 5.1.1. I'm wondering if there is any reason to wait rooting this device and tripping knox. I purchased an extended warranty for accidental etc from squaretrade so I'm not too worried.
What do you think? Also this is the first touch device I ever owned and I've never owned any smart devices other than a blackberry curve 8330. :victory: I am however quite savvy with computers in general. I've strayed from these devices due to high cost and high toss rate.
Couldn't hurt to throw in some app recommendations too! I sure would like to customize a bit more than samsung is allowing me to.
In addition to my original question, what's the best root and image available for my galaxy tab s2 t710 currently? I wasn't quite sure as there are a few. Does flashing one of the images wipe everything?
Also, as I understand it, many knox features have to be paid for with a regular subscription or something and the applications are not fantastic currently. Am I wrong?
Feel free to add anything you think I should know, also app recommendations would be great. Thanks!

Well, I took the plunge anyway, but I didn't do a backup with TWRP, everything is working but I forgot. Besides knox status, I'm assuming there's a way to undo this correct? like factory reset? Or did I screw it up (If I need to that is.)

wirelesskebab said:
Well, I took the plunge anyway, but I didn't do a backup with TWRP, everything is working but I forgot. Besides knox status, I'm assuming there's a way to undo this correct? like factory reset? Or did I screw it up (If I need to that is.)
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Knox status doesn't totally matter its more for secure environments like corporate or government to know that a device has been compromised.
Samsung and carriers often still warranty devices that have the Knox flag tripped.
To answer your question though, there is no way to undo a Knox flag.

Hey, I said besides knox status lol. I meant since I didn't backup in twrp before flashing root is there still a way to restore default firmware if necessary? Also how do I disable the securitylogger? People have mentioned it on the forums but I can't seem to find how to do that, thanks.
The only adverse effect I have noted so far was having to re-enter my wifi password.
Can anyone recommend a decent busybox? I installed this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en but is it the best one truly? The only other root program I have installed is AdAway. Actually, any decent app recommendations would be great, thanks!

wirelesskebab said:
Hey, I said besides knox status lol. I meant since I didn't backup in twrp before flashing root is there still a way to restore default firmware if necessary? Also how do I disable the securitylogger? People have mentioned it on the forums but I can't seem to find how to do that, thanks.
The only adverse effect I have noted so far was having to re-enter my wifi password.
Can anyone recommend a decent busybox? I installed this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en but is it the best one truly? The only other root program I have installed is AdAway. Actually, any decent app recommendations would be great, thanks!
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For what reason do you need to install busybox? Unless you have a real need for it why install it and cause more issues?
I can't think of a real single time I've ever needed busy box.
Xposed, Root explorer and Titanium backup are the 3 apps I use on every device I have.

auto rotate suddenly stopped working after I rebooted the tablet, I tried doing a factory reset but that hasn't fixed it, it won't go into landscape mode. Any ideas to fix this?
I just rebooted it through TWRP instead of inside the system and that fixed it, why the heck wouldn't a factory reset? anyone ever hear of this issue before?

A slap on the back has been known to fix it.

Switching from iOS to S10 and Need Advice Regarding Custom Bootroms and Root

Hello everyone,
I have always been an iPhone user since the first iPhone was released back in 2007; however, I have decided I would like to switch to Android as jailbreaks become less frequent on iOS.
I want to get the Samsung S10 Plus Exynos but I had a couple of questions.
If I purchase this device, will by be able to have root access without an exploit needed?
From what I understand, enabling root will trip Knox. I also understand that certain apps made by Samsung won't work like Samsung Heath and Samsung pay. But will other apps work fine like Pokemon go or various banking apps?
Is there a better flagship phone with root that I might want to look into getting instead?
This is all very new to me as I have always been with iOS and I would truly appreciate any advice you all can give. I have been doing extraneous amounts of research, and I will continue to do so, but these are just a couple of questions that I havent been able to find an answer to as of yet.

Vanimox said:
Hello everyone,
I have always been an iPhone user since the first iPhone was released back in 2007; however, I have decided I would like to switch to Android as jailbreaks become less frequent on iOS.
I want to get the Samsung S10 Plus Exynos but I had a couple of questions.
If I purchase this device, will by be able to have root access without an exploit needed?
From what I understand, enabling root will trip Knox. I also understand that certain apps made by Samsung won't work like Samsung Heath and Samsung pay. But will other apps work fine like Pokemon go or various banking apps?
Is there a better flagship phone with root that I might want to look into getting instead?
This is all very new to me as I have always been with iOS and I would truly appreciate any advice you all can give. I have been doing extraneous amounts of research, and I will continue to do so, but these are just a couple of questions that I havent been able to find an answer to as of yet.
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1.No you wont use any exploit.
2.Yes samsung pay and samsung pass wont work.Pokemon and banking apps work as long as you dont heavily debloat.Samsung health and secure folder work.
3.No there isnt
First update phone to latest version (ASII) with odin.(Get the firmware via Frija and flash via odin).Install samsung drivers and extract what you downloaded from Frija
In odin there are 4 slots.In Ap put Ap file.Bl in Bl.CP in CP and Csc in Csc.(PUT CSC NOT HOME_CSC).then boot phone in download mode(turn it off and hold bixby and volume down then plug in the usb cable Connected To The PC).In odin click start and wait until it boots..Go to youtube and search for max lee how to root s10.Then go to Xda in S10e/S10/S10+/S10 5G cross development and install TWRP by Geiti94 with his instructions.(Optional but recommended) install any custom rom available (CarHDMod,BeyondROM,LineageOS,LightROM and HadesRom).I personally recommend you to install hades rom with corsicanu's instructions.Then you have a rooted and custom rommed phone!

Note 9 to root or not to root?

Hey all!
I'll do the long story short: I am stuck on a Korean Note 9 in Europe, which means no Samsung pay for me.
Now, since I can't get Samsung Pay, and I saw I can't instal Google pay either(not sure why the Play store wouldn't let me), I have been contemplating before setting up my Note, to maybe root it, and going stock european ROM.
I have rooted multiple phones in the past, but I am not sure if it's worth it in the present, as the UIs are pretty good and complete.
Now my question is, do I lose anything else by rooting? Could someone Eli~10 what that knox fuse tripping means for future limitations/possibilities? Also, besides my reason to set custom dpi for an app, why else would one root its Note 9 nowadays?
Thanks!

I'm pretty sure you lose Private Folder and maybe Samsung Health if you root. I'd consider rooting only for Viper4Android & the YouTube Background Playback xposed module. But I saw there is xposed for non-rooted phones & Note9 has Dolby Atmos so I think this will be my first android phone that I won't root (don't even need root anymore).

It is personal preference, but all apps that require Knox will cease to work, so almost all payment apps will be of no use. While the first comment said S Health would no longer work, months ago a workaround was found to get it to work. Many apps I like require root, but there are nonroot workarounds for most of them.

Snowby123 said:
It is personal preference, but all apps that require Knox will cease to work, so almost all payment apps will be of no use. While the first comment said S Health would no longer work, months ago a workaround was found to get it to work. Many apps I like require root, but there are nonroot workarounds for most of them.
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And which are specifically the apps that require Knox to work?

I don't know all of them. The only ones I know are Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder, and Adhell, but development of Adhell ceased months ago. There are definitely more.

I had the same dilemma when I first bought my Note 9. For a couple of seconds. Then, I rooted it as I do with every Android phone I get since 2009.
Any app, website, or service that demands a non-rooted device goes automatically to my black list.

Root then UnRoot

So on my old phone i used to hide root using magisk and its got to the point now where i am sick of the cat and mouse games with banking apps. I Was wondering on my newer phone is it possible to root, install apps, apis and then unroot it but continue to use the apis ive installed to the partition and banking apps. Not too bothered about knox and the secure apps

LOL, it's KNOX that's stopping those banking apps working...
Once the e-fuse that protects the phone has been blown it's impossible to un-root.
Try to un-cook an egg.
Kmox is part of the security that tells the phone that the device has been compromised and hence no app that requires absolute system security will run... This generally will apply to banking apps but a few of Samsungs own apps won't run either.
Sorry...

thanks, i just thought banking apps check for root. i didnt think they used knox at all

I miss the good old time where we could root and go back to factory state before selling the phone
Had fun tweaking S2, Note3 and S6...
Now you'd loose money rooting if you're honest when selling

Ps2004 said:
I miss the good old time where we could root and go back to factory state before selling the phone
Had fun tweaking S2, Note3 and S6...
Now you'd loose money rooting if you're honest when selling
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So true, this is the last time i rooted, unrooted, rooted, unrooted, sold phones and havent done it since. it looks like i just will need to deal with it or somehow find a phone that has a vulnerability to allow root

I picked my old s6 and root again, hope the android auto all app hack works, phone will use my N9 hotspot
But I'd need a way to keep voicecall coming from N9 bluetooth and not plugged s6 running Android Auto