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Can somone explain the difference between (full) wipe, factory reset, ...
Is a wipe the same as format?
Is there no difference, or does nobody know it?
A full wipe is when you delete everything on your phone. A full wipe is needed every time before flashing a stock or custom rom. It will delete everything on your phone and you will not even be able to boot. Only Clockworkmod and the Download Mode will be left. Meanwhile, a factory reset will only erase data from your phone's internal storage. Factory reset is suitable only when you are in stock rom and a non-rooted device. It is dangerous to do a factory reset if you are rooted or having a custom rom. You will brick your device.
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A full wipe is when you delete everything on your phone. A full wipe is needed every time before flashing a stock or custom rom. It will delete everything on your phone and you will not even be able to boot. Only Clockworkmod and the Download Mode will be left. Meanwhile, a factory reset will only erase data from your phone's internal storage. Factory reset is suitable only when you are in stock rom and a non-rooted device. It is dangerous to do a factory reset if you are rooted or having a custom rom. You will brick your device.
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Installation:
You must have flashed a Android 7.0 Samsung Firmware with Odin.
TWRP recovery
Format data in recovery
First installation needs a full wipe! (Updating to newer releases a dirty flash will do)...
First installation needs a full wipe! (Updating to newer releases a dirty flash will do)" what i must to do pls?
hey guys,
which is the best method to clean your phone before flashing a new rom, or maybe bringing your phone to the state it was just after flashing a new rom. i tried data factory reset, wipe cache , wipe dalvik with kernels we have here and i found remainents of zip files i had flashed after setting up my rom and using newer mods. i dont want to format system, preload all the time.
which is your perfect, effective method ? speedmod kernel and its recovery or phillz , then which version ?
thanks
rraaka said:
hey guys,
which is the best method to clean your phone before flashing a new rom, or maybe bringing your phone to the state it was just after flashing a new rom. i tried data factory reset, wipe cache , wipe dalvik with kernels we have here and i found remainents of zip files i had flashed after setting up my rom and using newer mods. i dont want to format system, preload all the time.
which is your perfect, effective method ? speedmod kernel and its recovery or phillz , then which version ?
thanks
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why you dont want format system and preload before flashing rom?
what I do before flashing any rom is:
flash philz kernel
wipe data / cache / dalvkk cache
format / cache / system / data / preload
and then flash new rom
and thats it, with this procedure I have never faced any issue with any rom I have flashed.
usualy I use this method even befoe restoring my nandroid backup.
above methods I using with philz and speedmod, but i prefer philz when wiping and flashing and making backup, because it has nice cwm for doing that. but after I flash new rom I immediatly flash speedmod because it is the better than philz if you drive your new rom, and you are not in cwm at the moment
hope this helped
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completely agree with you djoni, but when you are flashing continuously, experimenting a lot ...you know ...this and that,
isnt a data factory reset , wipe cache, wipe dalvik supposed to bring you to that condition just after booting up after a new rom flash ? why were there remanents from a mod i had flashed after using the rom for some time ?
I had my phone stolen the other day, but I got it back (thanks Cerberus). I want to do a complete system wipe (as in deleting current firmware and reinstalling, not just factory reset) as I'm nervous about what they might have done to it, and because it still seems a bit slow, even after a Factory reset, Cache wipe, and dalvik wipe. I have already rooted using method 1.A. from this forum, so I have the "Wipe Data-Cache-System-Preload" option in PhilZ's bootloader (which I'm assuming does what I'm looking for). I would like to use the firmware on the Sammobile website for my country (Chile (ENTEL)), but I have a couple questions I haven't been able to find an answer to.
1. Is what I'm doing safe? Can you use the Sammobile Firmware's after doing a "Wipe Data-Cache-System-Preload"? Will it raise the counter or change the fact that I have a safe kernel currently?
2. Will I lose my current root access and/or PhilZ's bootloader? If so, is this a problem at all? Will I be able to re-root with the same method, or will that mess something up considering that the bootloader had already been modified the first time I rooted?
Sorry for being an overly anxious noob, but I just barely got my phone back, and I don't want to brick it.
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I had my phone stolen the other day, but I got it back (thanks Cerberus). I want to do a complete system wipe (as in deleting current firmware and reinstalling, not just factory reset) as I'm nervous about what they might have done to it, and because it still seems a bit slow, even after a Factory reset, Cache wipe, and dalvik wipe. I have already rooted using method 1.A. from this forum, so I have the "Wipe Data-Cache-System-Preload" option in PhilZ's bootloader (which I'm assuming does what I'm looking for). I would like to use the firmware on the Sammobile website for my country (Chile (ENTEL)), but I have a couple questions I haven't been able to find an answer to.
1. Is what I'm doing safe? Can you use the Sammobile Firmware's after doing a "Wipe Data-Cache-System-Preload"? Will it raise the counter or change the fact that I have a safe kernel currently?
2. Will I lose my current root access and/or PhilZ's bootloader? If so, is this a problem at all? Will I be able to re-root with the same method, or will that mess something up considering that the bootloader had already been modified the first time I rooted?
Sorry for being an overly anxious noob, but I just barely got my phone back, and I don't want to brick it.
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Yes you can download the firmware from sammobile or even from here (if it exists here):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
Yes, what you are doing is safe. the method for flashing stock rom is also in the above link. it will not raise the counter, you will lose root and would be back to stock kernel and there is no problem in that.
Yes you can flash philz kernel again once you are done flashing stock rom.
Edit: flash .zip file for philz kernel after flashing rom again to avoid raising counter.
Ok thanks! Is this process of re-installing the firmware going to actually delete the old firmware first? As opposed to just write over it? Will it have the same effect as the "Wipe Data-Cache-System-Preload" option in PhilZ kernel?
the_angel_moroni said:
Ok thanks! Is this process of re-installing the firmware going to actually delete the old firmware first? As opposed to just write over it? Will it have the same effect as the "Wipe Data-Cache-System-Preload" option in PhilZ kernel?
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it is the process of over writting if you do not clear up the data or system or preload (which you already did and if the rom is non wipe rom). As you have cleaned up data, system, preload and rest it is the process of reinstalling the firmware as there is no ROM to boot to at that point (i.e once you have cleaned up everything).
So in the thread you linked to it gives these instructions:
Installation
1.a Pre installation : (For clean installation, optional)
- Make backup with Titanium Backup or other similiar app.
- First wipe cache and data
And you are saying I should do this instead:
Installation
1.a Pre installation : (For clean installation, optional)
- Make backup with Titanium Backup or other similiar app.
- First "Wipe Data-Cache-System-Preload"
And then continue with the rest of the process?
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So in the thread you linked to it gives these instructions:
Installation
1.a Pre installation : (For clean installation, optional)
- Make backup with Titanium Backup or other similiar app.
- First wipe cache and data
And you are saying I should do this instead:
Installation
1.a Pre installation : (For clean installation, optional)
- Make backup with Titanium Backup or other similiar app.
- First "Wipe Data-Cache-System-Preload"
And then continue with the rest of the process?
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if you are rooted already and have backed up apps+data (non-system apps) with TBP you can follow any of the method (preferably 2nd) and once you are done flashing, root again using philz kernel and restore apps+data using TBP. Also if you go to philz recovery and then to wipe data/factory reset you will also find option for clean up to install new rom (something like that). Usually this method is often used if you are flashing custom rom but you can still do it even if you are flashing the stock rom (even same) again. Under mount/storage you can also mount USB storage while connected to pc and delete everything from internal sd before flashing too.
treacherous_hawk said:
Also if you go to philz recovery and then to wipe data/factory reset you will also find option for clean up to install new rom (something like that).
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It is called "Wipe Data-Cache-System-Preload." This is exactly the information I wanted, thanks so much again!
I was surprised that after flashing stock ROM by ODIN, phone was not cleaned from the user data.
I mean: account settings, applications installed by user, etc.
I know that flashing dont erase data from internal/external SD card, but why all data was still exist?
Only Wipe Data / Factory Reset will erase all user data?
Btw, Merry Xmas
darcik said:
I was surprised that after flashing stock ROM by ODIN, phone was not cleaned from the user data.
I mean: account settings, applications installed by user, etc.
I know that flashing dont erase data from internal/external SD card, but why all data was still exist?
Only Wipe Data / Factory Reset will erase all user data?
Btw, Merry Xmas
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Nope, factory reset will not erase all user data. Go into setting/storage and delete from there (not sure cause I didn't have the device now). If you want to erase using odin, tick the repartition box while flashing the firmware. This is the easiest way I think.
Odin flash doesn't wipe user apps and their data, but it may cause bugs if you come from another ROM...
E.g : if u soft bricked on stock JB, just odin flash is necessary.
for other ROMs, it may or may not lag.
I will describe my way.
I tried to install CM 10.2
I did factory reset, next steps follow procedure.
When I did first start, unfortunately keyboard stop working, so my cyjanogen install failed and I decided back to old system using backup.
After restore and start, phone required settings like on first start after factory reset.
Lol, big surprise.
Ok, I entered necessary information but after reset -
again same like after factory reset
I tried from another backup with same result.
Hmm, big mess.
So I flash stock ROM by Odin.
And new surprise - phone with fresh system and all my own settings and applications from last restore.
Two disappointments:
1. Restore from backup does not cause a return to the initial state.
2. Flash ROM by Odin don't make factory state of phone.
I have question, if format partitions: system and data and next restore backup will do real state phone on this backup?
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darcik said:
I will describe my way.
I tried to install CM 10.2
I did factory reset, next steps follow procedure.
When I did first start, unfortunately keyboard stop working, so my cyjanogen install failed and I decided back to old system using backup.
After restore and start, phone required settings like on first start after factory reset.
Lol, big surprise.
Ok, I entered necessary information but after reset -
again same like after factory reset
I tried from another backup with same result.
Hmm, big mess.
So I flash stock ROM by Odin.
And new surprise - phone with fresh system and all my own settings and applications from last restore.
Two disappointments:
1. Restore from backup does not cause a return to the initial state.
2. Flash ROM by Odin don't make factory state of phone.
I have question, if format partitions: system and data and next restore backup will do real state phone on this backup?
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1. Almost every restore from backup for me it returned phone on state when backup was made. Only if my backup was bad (did not have enough place on sd for backup or something corrupted it).
2. Flashing stock ROM by Odin do not touch data partition (or folder whatever it is). So if you want to erase that, you need to make factory reset. It is like that on every Samsung Android device - I am not sure for other, never used.
When you come back from any CM10.2, Omni 4.3 and CM11 based ROM - first flash stock with Odin, do factory reset - and after that restore backup (ofcourse first root, install CoCore kernel for CWM before restore - you can't use restore in stock recovery).
Tnx for answers.
This is weird that format system partition not enough to get rid of the CM
But I checked this again and exactly after refresh ROM by Odin - restore my settings and data works fine.
Hmm imo this is mess in whole Android system
darcik said:
Tnx for answers.
This is weird that format system partition not enough to get rid of the CM
But I checked this again and exactly after refresh ROM by Odin - restore my settings and data works fine.
Hmm imo this is mess in whole Android system
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Explanation for that, TeamJanica used preload partition for swap, and it is patitioned in other format than the one stock ROM use. That partition is not used on CM for files, but it has it's use on stock based ROM.
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Explanation for that, TeamJanica used preload partition for swap, and it is patitioned in other format than the one stock ROM use. That partition is not used on CM for files, but it has it's use on stock based ROM.
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Tnx for explanation :good:
Is there somewhere a description of the organization of the file system, partitions in our device?
darcik said:
Tnx for explanation :good:
Is there somewhere a description of the organization of the file system, partitions in our device?
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I think there is in some of the first posts of developer thread. I will try to find it and post if I get it.
Maybe this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30694671&postcount=288
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I think there is in some of the first posts of developer thread. I will try to find it and post if I get it.
Maybe this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30694671&postcount=288
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Tnx, as usual you are very helpfull
How I missed this topic?
darcik said:
Tnx, as usual you are very helpfull
How I missed this topic?
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It is made 25th August 2012. Maybe because of that.
Heeeelp pleeeease
Ive got a problem with frp protection my daughter forgot everything so i restored to factory and used odin 3 v13.3 and correct firmware to flash it but when odin says pass the phone erases itself of the flashed firmware it’s a galaxy s7 edge any help would be grateful im pulling my hair out now .
j7 nxt stock frimware flash failed
i accidentally wiped vendor,syastem and all and now i can only install custom gsi roms.
While flashing stock frimware it stuck at set partition adn cannot install stock frimware please helpe to get this fixed?
gauravsapkotanp said:
j7 nxt stock frimware flash failed
i accidentally wiped vendor,syastem and all and now i can only install custom gsi roms.
While flashing stock frimware it stuck at set partition adn cannot install stock frimware please helpe to get this fixed?
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supposedly you have downloaded the stock FW, flash via Odin with re-partition ticked. if it fails, extract the PIT file from CSC_OMC_OXM_XXX save it in a location and load it at the pit session via Odin the re-flash again with re-partition ticked.
Hello fellow friends
I am actually running 4.4.4 KK Rooted, with DRM Keys, Locked BootLoader and etc, just like this step-by-step guides you, i did follow all the steps.
I been using it for a few months and now, i feel like updating to the Lollipop. What EXACTLY do i have to do? ( I was thinking about, FLASHING a pre-rooted LP rom via recovery, then, after that, turn off the phone and THEN flash a FULL NON-PRE ROOTED rom via Flash Tools and exclude "SYSTEM" while flashing it.)
Am i thinking the correct? IF no, what should i do to keep my device rooted and update it from KK to LP?
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
taciogw said:
What EXACTLY do i have to do? ( I was thinking about, FLASHING a pre-rooted LP rom via recovery, then, after that, turn off the phone and THEN flash a FULL NON-PRE ROOTED rom via Flash Tools and exclude "SYSTEM" while flashing it.)
Am i thinking the correct? IF no, what should i do to keep my device rooted and update it from KK to LP?
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
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This is actually not needed
Do Steps 27-32 - And select all four checkboxed listed at "Include" in PRFC tool.
With this you have a FULL FW, rooted and DualRec. - Custom Rec. flashable - No need to flash non rooted stuff afterwards...
Alright, thanks mate, i will give it a try!
fluffi444 said:
This is actually not needed
Do Steps 27-32 - And select all four checkboxed listed at "Include" in PRFC tool.
With this you have a FULL FW, rooted and DualRec. - Custom Rec. flashable - No need to flash non rooted stuff afterwards...
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You mean, all i gotta do then, after creating the pre-rooted full fw, i just gotta flash it via recovery, and Wipe Factory Defaults? Or just dalvik and cache will do? PS I dont mind if i lose data, got all backed up on PC.
taciogw said:
You mean, all i gotta do then, after creating the pre-rooted full fw, i just gotta flash it via recovery, and Wipe Factory Defaults? Or just dalvik and cache will do? PS I dont mind if i lose data, got all backed up on PC.
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Exactly - But Full Wipe needed because KK to LP change...
First time I rooted (only some days ago - new Z3C ) I did al the steps - But I'm learning and reading fast
If you include Kernel, Fota, Modem, LTA you have a Full FW. Flashable directly over KK...
This is what I did the second time I rooted... (Because of my own dumpness I lost root and had to do rooting again)
In the known HowTo rooting thread several users reported this also. Just read there last few pages...
Your question was asked maaany times there
Note: There is a new Version of PRFCreator available -> V1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
I have rooted 23.1.A.1.28, and want to update to the latest firmware without losing my home screens icon arrangement, how may I achieve that? I am hesitant to update because I may lose user data and the home screen arrangements.
Thanks!
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Exactly - But Full Wipe needed because KK to LP change...
First time I rooted (only some days ago - new Z3C ) I did al the steps - But I'm learning and reading fast
If you include Kernel, Fota, Modem, LTA you have a Full FW. Flashable directly over KK...
This is what I did the second time I rooted... (Because of my own dumpness I lost root and had to do rooting again)
In the known HowTo rooting thread several users reported this also. Just read there last few pages...
Your question was asked maaany times there
Note: There is a new Version of PRFCreator available -> V1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
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Thanks for your answer, but what do you mean "full wipe" ? If i do factory defaults i will lose root access i think, heard that after flashing the pre-rooted fw.zip via recovery, all i gotta wipe is dalvik, cache and maybe data!
taciogw said:
Thanks for your answer, but what do you mean "full wipe" ? If i do factory defaults i will lose root access i think, heard that after flashing the pre-rooted fw.zip via recovery, all i gotta wipe is dalvik, cache and maybe data!
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Yes - you will loose it but only if you reboot after wipe. Full wipe is system/data/cache/dalvik, - Factory reset is Data/cache/dalvik,
If you stay in TWRP you are save. Actually wiping system is not needed... Those pre-rooted zips (as well as most stock bases custom ROMs available here on XDA (SLiM, Moly82's, etc) with superSU and DualRec (and I think you wanna use one of those) including an complete system.ext4 img which overwites sytem partition anyway....
And yes - after flashing via zip cache/dalvik wiping is OK... Data not needed...
And Data is almost empty anyway after full wipe/factoy reset from the beginning...
Don think to much. Make an TWRP Backup of SYSTEM, DATA, TA, KERNEL and go ahead. Things are easier than they look like....