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[Q] Need a new mp3 player, suggestions?

At the moment i have a SanDisk Sansa Clip+ and im looking for an upgrade.
Something under £90.
Any ideas?
Thanks

I don't know if it's just me, but I prefer using my phone as my primary music player as I would want to have everything integrated into one device (easier to carry). Do you people find any appreciable difference in music quality between a dedicated MP3 player vs inbuilt-music player on the phone?

I prefer a separate device, as then your still have a full battery on your phone.
And the quality is going to be better because it has one function, to play music.

The Cowon J3 has (from what I have heard) a simply AWESOME battery life and great music quality. Plays almost any file too!
Cannot post outside links yet, so you have to google

My battery life is good enough I can listen to music for about 10hrs and still have 40% left. Also with the equalizer options in gingerbread the sound quality is perfect
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deliriousDroid said:
My battery life is good enough I can listen to music for about 10hrs and still have 40% left. Also with the equalizer options in gingerbread the sound quality is perfect
Sent from my SilverBullet 'HTCDesireZ running CM7'
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I can't on my G1, so thats why i need a new mp3 player.

flyboyovyick said:
I can't on my G1, so thats why i need a new mp3 player.
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Time to ditch the G1 and get fly on a G6.

Since it has a Wolfson - Voodoo support?

I heard LG has not released the source of their audio drivers ... but I'm not sure if this issue is solved? Is there voodoo kernel support for the wolfson in the LG 2x? Got 30 minutes left for an auction to bid on, speedy replies would be nice

voon said:
I heard LG has not released the source of their audio drivers ... but I'm not sure if this issue is solved? Is there voodoo kernel support for the wolfson in the LG 2x? Got 30 minutes left for an auction to bid on, speedy replies would be nice
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Dude, feel free to use the search function. Search for something like "voodoo sound o2x" and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for

Voodoo works just fine in most custom roms, I think even on stock. I'm using it on my phone, works perfectly as it's supposed to, bug-free.

Nice to hear Happy with the audio quality it delivers?
@Kiljacken
Did! But got confused by all the kernel mentioned and some "will support" sentences etc and since I have less than 20 Minutes left for the auction i got a bit panicky Sorry.

voon said:
Nice to hear Happy with the audio quality it delivers?
@Kiljacken
Did! But got confused by all the kernel mentioned and some "will support" sentences etc and since I have less than 20 Minutes left for the auction i got a bit panicky Sorry.
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Not really that much quality improvement so far, but a bit is there and boy, do I love it! Curio says his working on something more, but knowing him right he's probably distracted by all his other projects makes us feel a little left behind, but I think that it's worth waiting for some more stuff from him.

Well as long as it sounds better than my HTC Desire HD, it'd be nice.

I noticed a large improvement, but only when using proper headphones of course, the stock ones won't make the difference audible. Audiophile headphones however, really gets improved by voodoo, bottom end is more clear, and high end is more clean, less distorted.

anubiz03 said:
I noticed a large improvement, but only when using proper headphones of course, the stock ones won't make the difference audible. Audiophile headphones however, really gets improved by voodoo, bottom end is more clear, and high end is more clean, less distorted.
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on miui rom it's the same. large improvement while using headphones.
voodoo sound is just awesome

Well I got some UE Triple Fi 10's .... I expect a better quality ... that's why I started the whole Wolfson endeavour, to be able to drive those in-ears properly. That's also a bit dependent on the output impendance ... I hope the one of the LG optimus 2x is very low, so the frequency response doesn't get distorted with the TF10s. There's other dreams to dream about ... a BBE sound enhancer system or so
Btw, is voodoo in the stock kernels that come with MIUI and CM7? Or do you have to flash those custom roms and after that select a specific kernel with voodoo?

Not a bad device, but...

This is a good device. I'm coming from iOS, so Android is new for me but the Nexus 7 is awesome. I only waited this long because pre-ICS I was afraid of fragmentation and went to the 'more stable' iPad 2. Now, I kind of regret that!
I have noticed a couple of things that trouble me, but it could just be me. Today I was running on the battery for about 1 hour and 20 minutes. I had played Dark Meadow, Duke Nukem 3D, Hanging with Friends, and setting up widgets on my home screen (I still haven't gotten used to what widgets on what home screen)..but it was already at 75% discharging (the wording seems odd but basically 25% of the battery already been used). I have the screen brightness down; and I do stream TWiT.tv through an app..and I get about 3-5 hours of battery life doing that. Is that normal?
BUT playing audio podcasts with screen locked, wifi off when it sleeps, etc i get 13 hours (yes, last night it clocked in at 13 hours 1 minute before battery died.)
I'm wondering this is normal. I do love the device though; so it may just be me being odd and worrying too much as i am new to Android
Overall, after selling my iPad 2, I'd give the Nexus 7 a 9/10. There needs to be more games I love (like hero academy, um..there were a couple I really loved on iOS that I loved but can't remember the names at all!) and at first I was having a hard time getting epub and pdf books onto the device, even using FBreader but I converted them to mobi and that's not a problem anymore.
Seriously, I love the device despite what Ithe issues I had--and they are my issues, not Google.

Some of those games you installed probably have some background service for ads or something, think of open feint and the like. Those services if not optimized for JB will drain your battery.
Auto brightness fr me and my battery is avg 8 hours with gaming, reading, Skype/googketalk video chatting.
Try to see if the games you have also have tegra versions usually marked by a THD in he title, they will wok better on this device.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

slimdizzy said:
Some of those games you installed probably have some background service for ads or something, think of open feint and the like. Those services if not optimized for JB will drain your battery.
Auto brightness fr me and my battery is avg 8 hours with gaming, reading, Skype/googketalk video chatting.
Try to see if the games you have also have tegra versions usually marked by a THD in he title, they will wok better on this device.
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I deleted most of the games if I don't like them, but I do make sure that they're THD 99.99% of the time. I also turned down my screen brightness. To give an idea. I just turned on F-Con's TWiT.tv app, with the brightness down..and it's at 68% discharging (I really wish they would have said 68% left or something) and it's been running for an 1 hour 45 minutes on the battery.
I'm really starting to think, and I posted this on G+, that I can't do ANYTHING with my device unless it's audio only and it's a little frustrating, but like I said, it's also probably just me being an idiot somewhere somehow. I really don't know what else to do to keep it from draining so fast (at least it feels fast) unless I keep it plugged into the charger when I'm streaming video. I know when I play games I like to go relax and lay down so I'm comfortable and I only stream video when I'm at my desk..so maybe just keeping it plugged in when doing that would be the best option.

It say "discharging" because that's exactly what it's doing. When plugged in, it says "charging".

nerfman100 said:
It say "discharging" because that's exactly what it's doing. When plugged in, it says "charging".
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Yes, thank you. Just not used to that term being used. Remember, I did come from iOS they don't use it, at least from what I remember and saw, in their settings.

Takes a few charging cycles before battery life is at its best!

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Takes a few charging cycles before battery life is at its best!
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Good point! I've tried not to charge it unless it's going dead.
I think my main problems
-I stream twit.tv while on battery (maybe I should plug it in?)
-I've watched video podcasts while on battery (Maybe I should plug it in or switch to audio?)
-I have the brightness turned up (I've tried turning it down but it gets too dark for my bad eye sight)
I mean the list of stuff I do is:
-Play casual games
-Try more 'intense' games like dead trigger, duke nukem 3d
-send an email/text message via the voice typing
-Use Google Now/Voice Activities
-tweet, facebook, g+
-Use Google Drive or Evernote because I'm a writer.
-watch twit.tv
The most intense thing I do are the games and twit.tv. But I can still get 6-7 hours even doing those two things. So the battery isn't horrible, it's just me being hypersensitive I'd imagine.

loug002 said:
This is a good device. I'm coming from iOS, so Android is new for me but the Nexus 7 is awesome. I only waited this long because pre-ICS I was afraid of fragmentation and went to the 'more stable' iPad 2. Now, I kind of regret that!
I have noticed a couple of things that trouble me, but it could just be me. Today I was running on the battery for about 1 hour and 20 minutes. I had played Dark Meadow, Duke Nukem 3D, Hanging with Friends, and setting up widgets on my home screen (I still haven't gotten used to what widgets on what home screen)..but it was already at 75% discharging (the wording seems odd but basically 25% of the battery already been used). I have the screen brightness down; and I do stream TWiT.tv through an app..and I get about 3-5 hours of battery life doing that. Is that normal?
BUT playing audio podcasts with screen locked, wifi off when it sleeps, etc i get 13 hours (yes, last night it clocked in at 13 hours 1 minute before battery died.)
I'm wondering this is normal. I do love the device though; so it may just be me being odd and worrying too much as i am new to Android
Overall, after selling my iPad 2, I'd give the Nexus 7 a 9/10. There needs to be more games I love (like hero academy, um..there were a couple I really loved on iOS that I loved but can't remember the names at all!) and at first I was having a hard time getting epub and pdf books onto the device, even using FBreader but I converted them to mobi and that's not a problem anymore.
Seriously, I love the device despite what Ithe issues I had--and they are my issues, not Google.
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great write up, op! you are a rare Ios person that I run into that isnt bashing how android ISNT Ios. Im glad to see that you have a great opinion and notice that this is a different system altogether. thanks, and Im glad you like the device...welcome to the Android family!

rayandreas said:
great write up, op! you are a rare Ios person that I run into that isnt bashing how android ISNT Ios. Im glad to see that you have a great opinion and notice that this is a different system altogether. thanks, and Im glad you like the device...welcome to the Android family!
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Thank you! I would never bash it because it's not iOS. They were, at one point, two different beasts. Now, they're starting to become..well not the same as they are very different but they are starting to do more of the same. Personally, I just got tired of that walled garden of Apple. With the nexus 7, I've already downloaded stuff from Amazon's app store, the play store, etc. the only thing I haven't done is gone to a developer directly and installed something.
Overall, I love the nexus 7. it's the perfect size for reading a book and for playing many games. Google Now is nice because I can check the Pirates or Steelers score or the score of their rivals.
I really do love this.

Got my N7 last night. Full charge overnight. Today I was on it constantly. I had almost 9 hours with almost 6 hours screen on time. This was playing FPse and xda and a few other games.
Facebook SUCKS on android. Their app has background crap that chews through the battery. Delete that crap and either use a Widget (Android Pro Widgets) or a 3rd party app or just use the browser. Not only will these alternatives work better, you'll also see tons of extra battery life.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

player911 said:
Got my N7 last night. Full charge overnight. Today I was on it constantly. I had almost 9 hours with almost 6 hours screen on time. This was playing FPse and xda and a few other games.
Facebook SUCKS on android. Their app has background crap that chews through the battery. Delete that crap and either use a Widget (Android Pro Widgets) or a 3rd party app or just use the browser. Not only will these alternatives work better, you'll also see tons of extra battery life.
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I will actually do that. I trust guys like you since you have more experience with Android than I do.
I actually got, so far, doing everything that I would even with the streaming of the TWiT Network..I got 9 hours 48 minutes 18 seconds. Almost 10 hours doing what I normally do (play games, emails, txt, streaming video, etc) So I think the battery's starting to normalize to what I do (is that even possible? lol!)
Still 6+ hours doing all of that stuff, to me, is pretty dang good. I used to get about 4-5 hours on my iPad 2 doing all of that stuff.

I got 5h20min screen time with 2 days usages
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Always use the m.facebook site if you can, it's so much better than the Android app.

john.2011 said:
I got 5h20min screen time with 2 days usages
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..I don't really know how to compete with that. I'm not sure if that is good or bad. lol. What exactly were you doing with it that you only got 5 hours 20 minutes over the course of two days? I mean that's only 2.66667 hours per day!

I Am Marino said:
Always use the m.facebook site if you can, it's so much better than the Android app.
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m.facebook.com got it.
Any other tips/tricks/apps (preferably free. I already used my credits! I have a 1.53 left lol.) you who came before me have?

Gaming drains the battery a good bit, it's as simple as that.
I've had no problem with the battery life, it isn't super long but it's more than sufficient... (I have the brightness jacked way up.)

Under Settings -> Accounts and Sync, be sure to disable Instant Upload. (Along with anything else that you don't need, but I've found Instant Upload to be a major battery culprit.)
If you root, you can get BetterBatteryStats for a more thorough analysis.

Seihaku said:
Gaming drains the battery a good bit, it's as simple as that.
I've had no problem with the battery life, it isn't super long but it's more than sufficient... (I have the brightness jacked way up.)
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Except I'm not gaming 24/7, I'll play for 5 minutes, maybe 10 (only sometimes longer)
Like I said I'm checking email, playing say Hanging with Friends, Tiny Tower, etc. then sending a text message, or a tweet or a facebook update, or a google plus update then I'm watching a twt.tv video or the livestream when a show is on.
It can't be just the gaming. and like I said, it could just be me. Today, for example, even though I streamed twit.tv, played a couple of games and all the rest..I still got 10 hours.
I've turned off wifi when alseep, as an example. I turned off instant upload. stuff like that. I still average abotu 10 hours a day, it was just that one day I got about 5-6 hours. I'll give it a try Monday or Tuesday again. I'll do nothing but stream off of the app I have for TWiT and see if I can reproduce it but it looks like 10 hours is about average for me.
As I said, and I know I'm repeating myself, it could just be me being hypersensitive about a new device and a new OS.

thebobp said:
Under Settings -> Accounts and Sync, be sure to disable Instant Upload. (Along with anything else that you don't need, but I've found Instant Upload to be a major battery culprit.)
If you root, you can get BetterBatteryStats for a more thorough analysis.
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yep! i did that day one..cause funny thing. I found all of my G+ photos in the gallery and I'm like "WTF!? I didn't put those in there!" So I turned off instant upload and syncing photos. I keep the GPS and what not on only so I can use Google Now (you know, the "how tall is the Eiffel tower" thing?--brain's a little fuzzy at the moment)

loug002 said:
m.facebook.com got it.
Any other tips/tricks/apps (preferably free. I already used my credits! I have a 1.53 left lol.) you who came before me have?
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I may be the only one to actually like the Facebook widget... I never actually open the app, but it is fun tabbing through
all my friend's statuses on the widget. My battery life seems fine...
Aside: One little feature I love is use Google Now to verbally "Set alarm to 25 minutes". That is how I know when my meal is ready...

battery life and music playtime

i am planing to buy the xperia z but i have a few questions....
how long would the battery last with heavy usage of music playing (2-4hr/day) and browsing the internet (wifi or 3g) ????
and how about the loud speaker quality i 've read in a few reviews that the loudspeaker quality is not that great
thanks

bibo22 said:
i am planing to buy the xperia z but i have a few questions....
how long would the battery last with heavy usage of music playing (2-4hr/day) and browsing the internet (wifi or 3g) ????
and how about the loud speaker quality i 've read in a few reviews that the loudspeaker quality is not that great
thanks
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Bro, you can chk it on this website of GSM Arena. A gd test is done abt the battery life an almost all aspect of the phone.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-review-887p3.php
If you like my answer plz press Thanks.

thx bro...but it just mentions the audio quality and the battery performance regarding video and web browsing but nothing about music

I am also use XZ to listen to music, but I don't have specific battry percentage to tell you.
I recently start using a Bluetooth headset and the phone still perform very well.
Hopefully, I will test it today.
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I milk cows and use my phone to play music, in the morning 4.30am to 8.30am and in the afternoon 2:15pm to 5pm...i dont have to charge it all day, but i dont use it alot at work for internet and stuff, just average numer of calls and texts...probably left with about roughly 20 - 30 % bttery at the end of the day

Yep, listening to music doesn't drain a lot of juice One hour and hasn't even moved past 100%. But web broswing on any android device sucks the battery, screen is the biggest culprit on my phone for battery usage

bibo22 said:
i am planing to buy the xperia z but i have a few questions....
how long would the battery last with heavy usage of music playing (2-4hr/day) and browsing the internet (wifi or 3g) ????
and how about the loud speaker quality i 've read in a few reviews that the loudspeaker quality is not that great
thanks
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First off, the speakers suck, but if you were going to listen to music through the speakers then you're just an idiot just saying (No offense).
On the other hand the music quality through head/earphones is really superb and is in my opinion the best you can get (When it comes to phones.) I don't know how long the battery would last, but it shouldn't be a problem at all to use the phone with 1 charge per day.
P.S. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116920

Thank you guys for all your helpfull replies.... I really appreciate it

Dsteppa said:
First off, the speakers suck, but if you were going to listen to music through the speakers then you're just an idiot just saying (No offense).
On the other hand the music quality through head/earphones is really superb and is in my opinion the best you can get (When it comes to phones.) I don't know how long the battery would last, but it shouldn't be a problem at all to use the phone with 1 charge per day.
P.S. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116920
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I wanted to know about both actually (the speakers and the headphones) but i asked about the speaker specifically to know the quality of the ringtones

bibo22 said:
I wanted to know about both actually (the speakers and the headphones) but i asked about the speaker specifically to know the quality of the ringtones
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Ringtones shouldn't be a problem at all.
But for example music will suck (It will on all phones anyways) because for example you won't hear any bass.

So I measure battery consumption today
I heard music using regular headset for one hour and 20min.
And that consumed 7% approximately with stamina mode is on.
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Dsteppa said:
Ringtones shouldn't be a problem at all.
But for example music will suck (It will on all phones anyways) because for example you won't hear any bass.
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yea thats true,,,, thanks bro

abd_alazeez2002 said:
So I measure battery consumption today
I heard music using regular headset for one hour and 20min.
And that consumed 7% approximately with stamina mode is on.
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thats pretty good

Music Players/Which Do You Use?

What music player do y'all use? As far as battery, UI, sound. I have ran into big battery issues with the VS980 in regards to listening to music on my phone while at work... I have used almost every Rom/kernel/V4A/Music player combo possible and no matter what I just want to smash my phone by the end of the day... Any feedback would be appreciated.

undeadking said:
What music player do y'all use? As far as battery, UI, sound. I have ran into big battery issues with the VS980 in regards to listening to music on my phone while at work... I have used almost every Rom/kernel/V4A/Music player combo possible and no matter what I just want to smash my phone by the end of the day... Any feedback would be appreciated.
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I use Google Play Music and Dsub to stream from my Subsonic server in my house. Both actively download in the background the way I use them. I have Viper4Android for sound on top of that, using the middle quality setting.

Poweramp and V4A...Poweramp doesn't drain my battery much but your mileage may vary...
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk

Neutron and v4a. On average I say I listen to about an hour/day and get good battery life. I use super audio with v4a. But like dawg said above, mileage varies.

:good::highfive: JC's CM11, PowerAmp, Viper4A, 24 bit 96khz hi-rez files, S11 Flex headset!! Headset good for about 6 hours at work, device can go all day thru preamp on stereo, do use Juice Defender on device!! :highfive::good:

I use Rocket Player, but not V4A. The free version has all the features I need, and more.
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk

Thanks for the input! I figured out that its a huge DT2W issue as well, Poweramp and V4A seemed to work well while testing last night

I use Google Play Music and my battery lasts all day. I listen to music in the car and while at work.
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Google Music on JackpotClavin's CM11 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702958). That ROM is the same as the official CM but modified for 24A firmware (and maybe 25A). It's the latest CM code with absolutely NO SODs.