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Vibrant and Future Proofing

Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence about buying a Vibrant and I'd love some perspective from you guys, the dev community.
I saw the Vibrant, love the screen and overall performance...however, I'm concerned about the future (6-9) months out.
The device is supposed to get Froyo..but what about Gingerbread?
How is the dev-ability of this device? Might there be a custom ROM to 1) have Froyo before Samsung 'blesses us' with it...what about Gingerbread?
Thanks guys - I'm new to this scene and appreciate your perspective.

wrong section. this is not development.

phantasm714 said:
wrong section. this is not development.
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I'm confused...the breadcrumb at the top of the page says:
Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Android Development
where'd I go wrong?

techcraver said:
Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence about buying a Vibrant and I'd love some perspective from you guys, the dev community.
I saw the Vibrant, love the screen and overall performance...however, I'm concerned about the future (6-9) months out.
The device is supposed to get Froyo..but what about Gingerbread?
How is the dev-ability of this device? Might there be a custom ROM to 1) have Froyo before Samsung 'blesses us' with it...what about Gingerbread?
Thanks guys - I'm new to this scene and appreciate your perspective.
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for future posts like this, belongs better in the general section not the development secion... link below to general
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
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such an unhelpful post. If you don't plan on helping, don't bother wasting the time to make a post like this, the only thing it helps is your post count and that means jack..

techcraver said:
I'm confused...the breadcrumb at the top of the page says:
Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Android Development
where'd I go wrong?
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He means your question is not about development.

psychoace said:
He means your question is not about development.
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ok...part of it was. it was a Q to the devs about the potential to put ROMs on this device.
I read on an Android blog comment that even though the phone has been rooted, that drivers are not 'in the open' so therefore ROMs would not be possible. I'm wanting to fact-check this

rsfaze said:
for future posts like this, belongs better in the general section not the development secion... link below to general
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
such an unhelpful post. If you don't plan on helping, don't bother wasting the time to make a post like this, the only thing it helps is your post count and that means jack..
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boo hoo. so im not helping. it says RIGHT IN THE FIRST STICKY
"This is Development Section, not General.. Do NOT post questions here.. SEARCH the forum before posting a new thread"
sorry if im a LITTLE callous to people not reading and cluttering up dev.

techcraver said:
ok...part of it was. it was a Q to the devs about the potential to put ROMs on this device.
I read on an Android blog comment that even though the phone has been rooted, that drivers are not 'in the open' so therefore ROMs would not be possible. I'm wanting to fact-check this
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This is wrong. We will DEFINITELY see custom roms for this device.

I'm clapping my hands in joy and excitement
could custom ROMs include the possibility of Froyo, even before Samsung brings it 'officially'?

techcraver said:
I'm clapping my hands in joy and excitement
could custom ROMs include the possibility of Froyo, even before Samsung brings it 'officially'?
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No definitive answer to that, but more than likely. Almost every previous device has either received a custom unreleased or early leaked android build. No worries though, we won't be waiting long for an official 2.2 dump. FYI, this device will eventually get Gingerbread. Google has already reported that all devices running a 1ghz processor will receive Gingerbread. However, don't expect that until AT LEAST the end of the year, possibly later.

I would suspect that we will start seeing Froyo roms come out between the time Samsung releases the "official" froyo rom and T-Mobile pushing said rom to the handsets.

Rooting was available for me even before i purchased the phone. Now i found out, Cyanogen Mod 6 is on the works. I believe that is froyo. Also, Clockwork recovery is as well. I believe we are in good hands. Future looks good so far being the phone out in my hands only 5 days.

ok cool. I was holding back on buying a Vibrant because I don't want to plunk down $500 bones and then have this thing be obsolete when Gingerbread comes out.

I'm still wondering the "open source" status of the driver of Vibrant. Someone said it's closed thus may affect the custom ROM progress? Can anyone elaborate on this a little bit?

CM6 for vibrant is being actively developed right now, its in an alpha0 stage, and should be finished(within a week hopefully) as for Gingerbread, I have no clue whether we will get that working on the vibrant, dont know the requirements, but since the vibrant is the fastest handset currently available, im thinking gingerbread will happen. Also we have plenty of space, plenty of ram, and a 1ghz processor, we'll be seeing dual core handsets at the end of the year/early next year, until then im happy to be getting my vibrant tomorrow shipped to me by tmobile.
some french guy already got froyo working on the galaxy s, its being worked on and will happen.
I'm also very happy tmobile has a Equiptment installment plan for me, since ive been using the G1 since October 08, im very happy to upgrade to this device

t1n0m3n said:
I would suspect that we will start seeing Froyo roms come out between the time Samsung releases the "official" froyo rom and T-Mobile pushing said rom to the handsets.
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Since CM6 is froyo, we'll definitely see that before we see the official froyo rom from samsung. It'll be stock android--just like the nexus one style of look-- but at least it's android 2.2.
Once froyo (touchwiz ui) from samsung is released, we will definitely get a lot of froyo ROMs from our community, or if you're still stock then you can get the official update

Min. requirement for gingerbread.
1 Ghz Processor
512 mb RAM
3.5" Screen
Anybody know exactly how many mb of RAM Galaxy S have?

sl8125 said:
Anybody know exactly how many mb of RAM Galaxy S have?
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A simple Google search tells me 512...

So, do people get flamed for posting dev or theme stuff in the GENERAL section? Just pondering...

ryanolson7 said:
Since CM6 is froyo, we'll definitely see that before we see the official froyo rom from samsung. It'll be stock android--just like the nexus one style of look-- but at least it's android 2.2.
Once froyo (touchwiz ui) from samsung is released, we will definitely get a lot of froyo ROMs from our community, or if you're still stock then you can get the official update
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And where would the aforementioned CM6 be?

I need some help getting froyo on my sgs

Hello everyone!! My name is Dimitris and I am 15 years old. I'm new to this forum and also new to the android world. I spend a lot of time on mobile phones. I had a Nokia N82 and I learnt almost everything about symbian os. But now it's old and I decided to go for a new phone. After long research i decided to buy the samsung galaxy s. i'm pretty happy with it so far. but i need some help to learn more about the android os. and by that i mean the hacks and mods that exist. 1st of all i want to put froyo on it. can someone help me root my phone and then flash it with the best froyo rom so far? I know that this must have been already asked. but couldn't find anything... also i'm gonna make more questions in this thread. any answer will be appreciated

i suggest u look further in the rom section because there are enough tutorials on how to root your phone and how to flash a custom rom on it
search and u will find.

My two cents: wait for the official froyo update. The froyo versions out there are still quite raw.
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android.francis said:
My two cents: wait for the official froyo update. The froyo versions out there are still quite raw.
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yup it is so raw, that will make the phone work like a piece of junk, you are better off with the stable ROMs that are currently avaialble

A lot of froyo stuff seems to have been backported by Samsung anyway (such as Highmem support it seems). You need to ask yourself why you need froyo specifically. It's due so soon though, it probably isn't worth the effort

Thank you for your replies. First of all I want to improve my phones batery life because I currently sucks. Also I want the voice to text thing that other phones that you say something and it turns it to text. Also I want a button at the samsungs keyboard to change between english and greek language fast like on the iphone. Finally I would like to know if there are any cool apps or widgets that I should install mostly for social networking.

yes, STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM FROYO BETAS!!! It will most likely break your phone!. Wait for OFFICIAL release next week

FROYO BETA's won't break your phone. PM me if you need further help.

AdamDowning said:
FROYO BETA's won't break your phone. PM me if you need further help.
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It's trashed some people's IMEI's. So if your phone is more than a toy, you are still best off only using the official firmware

Meh, I don't see why it could trash your IMEI if you follow instructions carefully. And backup your nv_data.bin as I do. And ofc, your phone is unlocked!

The problem is, if you don't, your phone will be permanently messed up. It isn't worth it, unless you are using your phone as a toy.
You certainly can't say it wont break your phone, unlike normal flashing, there is risk involved...

Just wait for the official froyo release. Are you so much in a rush for froyo to put your phone to some risk? A week or two and froyo will be out. Migh as well wait.
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[Q] The Future Of i9000 ?

The i9000 is a year old, (and still is the best android phone in most markets)
it came with android 2.1 , we got 2.2 , we will get 2.3 in , lets say about 1 month , wright when 2.4 will be released.
I think samsung will eventually release a 2.4 firmware maybe in june - july but then "ice cream" will be released
So what do you guys think , we will ever see "ice cream 3.x'' officially on the i9000 , or gingerbread will the the end of the line ?

Yes, i think we will, and if we dont, we will kick up a fuss and demand it from samsung lol
or we could just wait for someone to port it from another ROM, android hacking will never die !!!!

My guess is that 2.3, maybe with a patch or two, will be the last thing that Samsung does for the i9000. I don't think there is in their interest to support a phone older than 18 months, as they probably rely on statistics. And the statistics tells them that you and me probably have bought a new phone by then.

true i suppose.
If ice cream ever did come out for the SGS is probably wouldnt be for a while, and yea me and you probably would have a new phone, so we wouldnt be on the i9000 forums to find out if it was released.
but im happy with cyanogenMod, and as long as that always gets frequent updates, il stick to this til i get a new device

azzledazzle said:
Yes, i think we will, and if we dont, we will kick up a fuss and demand it from samsung lol
or we could just wait for someone to port it from another ROM, android hacking will never die !!!!
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Very True

Like any device the manufactures have to drop support from it at some point! I think we will see Android 2.3.3, which from ports does run smooth on this phone and then afterwards just the normal updates we see floating around for 2.2.1 etc..
Then again there are loads of adverts for the Galaxy S still on the TV so I suppose in reality we will just have to wait and see.

I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?

gbatman said:
I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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How could they?they aren't developers(afaik) they both need a rom as a base if sammy doesn't release one they can't mod it.
Since there is a cyanogenmod projekt for the sgs now we will propably get updates for a while because it is based in many parts on nexus s source.
So if you make the jump to cm you will propably (if they make it to the mainline) see ice cream or whatever the next updates are called
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I think it will...
At least it has the necessary hardware to run it!
I don't think samsung will give up on the phone that increased their market! I mean 10 million units is not exatly a couple of phones...
And at the end of the day they are nothing like LG Those sad faces are still wondering about 2.3 for their Optimus 2x

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I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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Its Not really Better just the graphik a little bit thats all
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I am beginnig to wonder if SGS really sucks that much compared to SGS2 or sensation maybe...
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Android 2.3.x is the last for Gingerbread going to be released for the i9000.
However, due to the large numbers of i9000 devices within the market, and still being sold, Samsung have no option but to release an upgrade to Ice-Cream Sandwich (Android 4.x.x).
There will be no 2.4 for Android, it goes straight to 4 (Ice-Cream Sandwich).
Because Android cannot sustain development for both 2.x.x and 3.x.x concurrently, it makes sense to release the "co-op" version for both smartphones and tablets.
Rumour has it, this version will be released end of October, first for Samsung Nexus Prime.
So November seems to be a good enough guess for the rest to follow suite.
Note: if you don't like waiting for upgrades in your country, and your device is already a year old, just install/flash a stock ROM released for a different country (closest to yours...check GSMA for technology standards if you're really worried). Also, if there is a big difference in GSMA standards, you can still flash a ROM of your choice and then use your current Modem, e.g. flash JVR update on your phone, then flash the modem for previous working version for your country.

I am from India and it's bleak in a way. The android bug hasn't really caught on here. We are severely crippled. We did not get an official Nexus. We got the Galaxy S II, the prices of GT9000 have dropped. But still no one goes for it. People here are still caught up in the iphone bug. I think Samsung will pull the plug soon to make their other phones sell.
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Will love if i get ice cream sandwhich update
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gaspernemec said:
I am beginnig to wonder if SGS really sucks that much compared to SGS2 or sensation maybe...
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HTC phones blow for battery life and signal. (Take it from someone who has been down that road many times with different OS)
THE SGS2 is zippier with the processor and RAM, but goes through the battery faster.
Your best bet is really one of two options:
Keep the SGS and grab a Samsung Armani battery. Its 1650mah (same physical size as stock) which makes up for any custom fast kernal battery loss versus stock.
Or
Get a Motorola Atrix which has the power of the SGS2 minus the screen but at least has the battery.
Unless you can wait a little while longer and see the ICS phones coming this fall for even more options...
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When are we get gingerbread back??

I haven't even heard any rumors about expected re-release date for gingerbread.
I was sure we were gonna get our gb back within two to three weeks, but my faith is fading very rapidly now.
Some people are expecting mid-May for re-release.
What you guys reckon?

I reckon G00glez took their G1ng3rbr3ads back and are not going to release it again until 24 hours goes by without someone creating a thread and asking about it.
In all honesties, I'm patient as long as it's rock solid.

it's pulled buy google so i think it's because of patent infringements

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it's pulled buy google so i think it's because of patent infringements
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Patent Infringements? Seriously?
Unless there is a court order restraining Google from distributing Android, which there is NOT nor will there be in the future in my opinion, there is no way they would have pulled the release based on patent issues, which are never ending anyway for all companies these days. Also, GB HAS been released for other devices, including the Nexus S.
I would say it is far more likely to have been due to carrier integration problems, or that they recalled it to fix a relatively minor issue, such as the camera fix that was rumored, and the fix ended up breaking something else, and fixing that killed the wifi and so on and so on.
As it is JVB seemed a bit underdone for a final release. Hopefully we will get a better version all around, once they get around to putting it back in Kies. Could happen tomorrow, could happen next month....who knows. In the mean time, several of the custom versions are maturing nicely and the Kitchen is soon to move GB from beta to mainstream...so be happy and try those.

Samsung apps is offering an update. No serious change, but might be a sign for rerelease.
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AFAIK that was debunked.

Nobody knows
I haven't heard any truly plausible reasons for taking Gingerbread of Kies again. I am currently running the Kies version (JVB) of Gingerbread and compared to the earlier Samsung releases the JVB is a dream to run on.
Yes there may be bugs in it, though I personally haven't run into to any yet, but all of the official realeses I have run so far, has had bugs in them, so no change there.
The only reason I can see to hold it back is that they are waiting until the SGS2 to come to market, so they don't have to compete with there own product.
Thats my two cents.

Small update
I can tell you that the official release date of the SGS2 from one of the major carriers in denmark (TDC) is week 19 (the 9th to the 15th of may), which accidentally coinsides with the releasedate of branded Gingerbread on the SGS in Scandinavia.
Sources are here (This will give you a chance to work on your danish ) :
http://forum.tdc.dk/t5/Mobil/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-hos-TDC/m-p/36167
http://forum.tdc.dk/t5/Mobil/Samsung-Galaxy-S-opdatering-til-Android-2-2-1-hvorn%C3%A5r-kan-det/m-p/35897#M3499

It returns on a Tuesday .
jje

Hopefully they get rid of touchwiz

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Hopefully they get rid of touchwiz
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Get rid of Touchwiz and i get rid of SGS .
jje

2.3.4 is out so maybe that's the primary reason it was pulled... Will it return as 2.3.4?
**Simply Honey 3.0, UltimateGB beta7 kernel, JQ1 modem**

I have a feeling we'll see it as 2.3.4 with TW4

Buy a SGS or wait?

Hey guys, would you reccomend buying a SGS 2 or waiting for the next version? Anyone know when the next version will be out? I am on AT&T thanks!

it simply depends on the fact if u can afford a better device when it comes out... if you can then go ahead and wait... if you cant then there is no point... and if you choose to wait then wait a little longer to see if the device has sufficient developer support, if you are into rooting n custom ROMS...

I think it's best to wait for the S3 i will definately wait for it and i think it's worth waiting
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Its better to wait for S3 it will be very good for sure

I thought to buy the galaxy s2 because my s1 don't became ics and was very slow with all roms that i tried. But with the slim ics ROM I'm now very happy and the performance is great. Now i will wait until the s1 will die or no more updates will come from the Android community.
That save a lot of money and I'm very happy with my old lag free phone.
Just my 2 cent.
And excuse me for my English, best regards from Germany.
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I completely agree with the last poster. With Gingerbread, I was looking to upgrade. After I put ICS on my phone—especially with bigmem kernels sporting 400mb of available RAM—I see absolutely no reason to upgrade. My phone doesn't lag and I can play any of the new games I want to. I would definitely wait for the S3.

It depends on what you wanna do with your phone.
You are on XDA, so i guess you wanna try new roms an tweak your phone to the fullest
In that case buy the SGS 2, there is already a lot of devs building roms for the SGS 2
If you want the newest phone..... and can wait for it's release (don't know exactly when)... and can afford it..... and can wait for root to come out, the SGS 3 is your choice.
I have a SGS 1 to play with so my choice would be simpel... wait for the SGS 3.

Sgs3 22nd may UK. I have seen it and it really looks as if its from beyond this galaxy!
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I'd totally wait and even after S3 being released would wait some more.
I never buy something new after being fairly well tested and reviewed.
And even so, i'll probably hang to my SGS. I'm not even joking my phone's fast as hell even with a GB based rom, have probably the best sound you can have on any phone around, the perfect screen size for me with a beautiful screen with beautiful colors to look at, frontal button with no useless touch buttons (really who needs a dedicated search button anyway), built in a perfectly solid enough case with battery to spare for a whole day (i ask for no more).
i've been using mintberry miui for a good while now, have it well customized (plenty of wireless passwords saved, loads of apps with several data, everything works flawlessly without a single FC for months) and i can't really imagine all of this going even faster, it's fast enough as it is. I don't even consider changing to an ICS rom just yet.
The only things i would change is the **** gps that never really worked regardless what i try and wireless going into sleep mode regardless of me configuring it not to (although this is a rom/kernel problem). But i can live with both, my car already has gps, i already had a dedicated device before getting this phone as well and i can always have my phone not entering sleep at all in the first place, so... meh This is nitpicking anyway.
Really, i've put to thought changing my phone many times, but after considering what i'll get i always end up realizing my phone delivers everything i need with power to spare.
If you own an SGS you probably already have the best there is

I'm waiting for the Galaxy S4

i got both sgs1 an sgs2 so comparing sgs1 is sexy on gb but sgs2 is sexy on gb too..but performance of sgs2 is better an iam planning for new device tht will b latest may b sgs3 so better wait cause teck speeking quadcore,cam,speed war will start soon an every company will rush out new phones,so ull hav a chance to select,an may b the price falls too (who knos)........cheeeerz

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Sgs3 22nd may UK. I have seen it and it really looks as if its from beyond this galaxy!
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Thanks for the release date..... can't wait till i have it in my hands. Where did you see it?

hiker123 said:
Thanks for the release date..... can't wait till i have it in my hands. Where did you see it?
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I found it in this link... even sammobile had a similar post... dont knw whether its legitimate or not...

sbnaul said:
I found it in this link... even sammobile had a similar post... dont knw whether its legitimate or not...
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I thought you have seen it for real
Thanks anyway.

waiting 4 sgs2 drop and i'll have oppotunity to try another MP..

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I thought you have seen it for real
Thanks anyway.
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Lol... i just provided links... gcuchiha claimed that he has seen it !!! Sme posts abv... nt me...

I'd wait for sgs3 and see what the reviews are like
Also they always charge a premium price for the first couple of months before coming down to a more realistic amont
Since putting Barome's ultimate fusion ICS on my sgs it is working really well, even GPS and navigon are usable
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Wait.
Definitely.
Ultimately.
Short time.
10 years only.
And buy Samsung Galaxy 95.
Any earlier model would be a crap.

I thought I read somewhere that it will not be out until Q3/Q4 this year...but if you ask me, I would certainly not wait...considering the current SGS (almost 2 years old?) is still able to run ICS decently, I really see no reason the upgrade the hardware, or in this case, to wait for newer hardware...

If you ask me I would definitely wait for S2 till it's price would fall or just wait some more time to buy S3 . i wouldn't go for S1 generation anymore