[TUTORIAL] How to prepair battery's for 3.0v kernels - Vibrant Android Development

Now that the kernel has been unlocked to alow the battery to use the full 4.2-3.0v potential, some people are having issues getting there battery to drain to 3.0 w/o having its protection circuitry kicking in.
Equipment
Multi meter- digita/ analog... doesnt matter, just need to be able to mesure DC voltage downt to atleat 1/10th volt.
Bulb -i personaly use a #194 automotive bulb
Procedure
drain battery as normal untill shutdown.
remove battery
check voltage across the 2 outer lugs ( just for referance )
take bulb, unfold the wire contacts so they stick out, touch them to the outer lugs ( bulb will barely glow its rated for 12v )
ether tape the bulb in place or hold it there ( i just hold it, keeps me from forgetting about it and draining it to low)
recheck votage every few min.
drain it to 2.9-3.0v
reinstall in phone and charge as normal
some batterys may require you to repete it to recondition the protection circuitry.
if you drain it below 2.5v you will need to buy a new battery... YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Awsome thanks!! Do i need to do this everytime i reflash a eom or kernel thats is able to use this feature?
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Li-io batterys need to be drained down every once in a while. Most experts recomend draining to 3.0v about every 30 cycles....
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t1h5ta3 said:
Li-io batterys need to be drained down every once in a while. Most experts recomend draining to 3.0v about every 30 cycles....
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Lets all break our batteries yay!!!!!
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t1h5ta3 said:
Now that the kernel has been unlocked to alow the battery to use the full 4.2-3.0v potential, some people are having issues getting there battery to drain to 3.0 w/o having its protection circuitry kicking in.
Equipment
Multi meter- digita/ analog... doesnt matter, just need to be able to mesure DC voltage downt to atleat 1/10th volt.
Bulb -i personaly use a #194 automotive bulb
Procedure
drain battery as normal untill shutdown.
remove battery
check voltage across the 2 outer lugs ( just for referance )
take bulb, unfold the wire contacts so they stick out, touch them to the outer lugs ( bulb will barely glow its rated for 12v )
ether tape the bulb in place or hold it there ( i just hold it, keeps me from forgetting about it and draining it to low)
recheck votage every few min.
drain it to 2.9-3.0v
reinstall in phone and charge as normal
some batterys may require you to repete it to recondition the protection circuitry.
if you drain it below 2.5v you will need to buy a new battery... YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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Giving it a shot now.

PaiPiePia said:
Lets all break our batteries yay!!!!!
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you will only break the battery by trying to drain to 2.5 or below.
3.0v is normal for a li-io battery.
this isnt new technology, were not doing any thing ground breaking. if anything were playing catchup. thank you samsung...

I am still a bit reluctant, however I am willing to proceed with more detail. If you can explain how exactly it works, it will make me feel more confident in doing so. I am not afraid at all in draining the battery with a bulb which I already picked up at Auto Zone, a 194 but this one is a 14v, all they had, and do know how to use a meter, ( am a low voltage installer, go ADT!)
So I was looking for more specifics. How does the kernel then register that the battery can now be used to 3v, etc... If you do know, if not that fine too
Just like to know how things work basically, and how it works.
Thanks!

Which kernels support 3.0v?
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Look at eugene's a13 a14 and I think his new one too.

Well just drained the battery to 2.98v and put it on charge now. Cant get it to boot yet, even though after a minute of charging it was back at 3.3 v, Strange? ANyway Im going to let it charge some more and try to turn it on while its still plugged in.

t1h5ta3 said:
Li-io batterys need to be drained down every once in a while. Most experts recomend draining to 3.0v about every 30 cycles....
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Can you site one of these experts?
-bZj
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So i have come to the conclusion that all thougj this does work to drain your battery the modded kernel does not work. I have not seen an increase in battery life at all. Which i am very dissapointed in.
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jzero88 said:
So i have come to the conclusion that all thougj this does work to drain your battery the modded kernel does not work. I have not seen an increase in battery life at all. Which i am very dissapointed in.
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Has Nothing to Do with the Kernel MOd... It's the Damn Kernel Clock cycles and sticking at high speeds when sleeping... I've said this many of time already & nobody listens..
OVERKILL Kernel was the First kernel that fixed this issue, so I'm not sure why you're disappointed? the issue was never fixed to start with until now, & even then you only saw a few hours at most with the 3.0V mod..
If it's Reading 3.30v then the Mod is working Correctly as by default it's set to 3.60V, in this case it's just a matter of dropping the Calculations for the battery down a bit more to get the 3.0v setting

eugene373 said:
Has Nothing to Do with the Kernel MOd... It's the Damn Kernel Clock cycles and sticking at high speeds when sleeping... I've said this many of time already & nobody listens..
OVERKILL Kernel was the First kernel that fixed this issue, so I'm not sure why you're disappointed? the issue was never fixed to start with until now, & even then you only saw a few hours at most with the 3.0V mod..
If it's Reading 3.30v then the Mod is working Correctly as by default it's set to 3.60V, in this case it's just a matter of dropping the Calculations for the battery down a bit more to get the 3.0v setting
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Alright, finally someone who knows something about something
Well unfortunately I was unable to read through every post in the forum, but did not know of this issue. Thanks for dropping some knowledge that way I can reflash the new Kernel when I get home and, see better battery life, and watch some dragons.
Hope you didn't take my post the wrong way, by all means you are a legend among the this forum eugene and will always use your kernels, roms, etc.. With that said I might start my own thread to consolidate all of this battery questions, problems, answers etc. Thanks again eugene!!

jzero88 said:
Alright, finally someone who knows something about something
Well unfortunately I was unable to read through every post in the forum, but did not know of this issue. Thanks for dropping some knowledge that way I can reflash the new Kernel when I get home and, see better battery life, and watch some dragons.
Hope you didn't take my post the wrong way, by all means you are a legend among the this forum eugene and will always use your kernels, roms, etc.. With that said I might start my own thread to consolidate all of this battery questions, problems, answers etc. Thanks again eugene!!
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All good man... I've just stated this a few already is all, lol....
But, with that being said, I know the Mod is working then, and I just need to do a few more adjustment to the source codec and fix a few Calculations to get us down more to the correct settings..
Thanks for Posting the 3.30V though, as this give more to go on, and I was waiting for true data reports before lowering it anymore to keep from brick batteries
~Eugene

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Muffin-Factory said:
NVM - Wrong place to post
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Wrong Thread & no it's not needed with the Latest Kernel.

eugene,
So I just flashed the new Kernel, working flawless so far, but am at 60% battery, and have a voltage of 3700 mV. Not sure if that's where the voltage should be at that percentage. You wouldn't happen to have a chart, or know what voltage should be giving what battery percentage.
Should I try draining my battery again down to 3.ov since I just flashed the new kernel?
Thanks

eugene373 said:
Wrong Thread & no it's not needed with the Latest Kernel.
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LMFAO!!!!!!

jzero88 said:
eugene,
So I just flashed the new Kernel, working flawless so far, but am at 60% battery, and have a voltage of 3700 mV. Not sure if that's where the voltage should be at that percentage. You wouldn't happen to have a chart, or know what voltage should be giving what battery percentage.
Should I try draining my battery again down to 3.ov since I just flashed the new kernel?
Thanks
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It's based on the init of the battery Calculations.. So if the Calculations are wrong it will report odd until there fixed... Should be fixed in the Kernel I'm running though... Will be Posting the Kernel shortly & now is Marked Stable for all at this point...
Charts? lol, not unless I boot back into linux.. I'll get the charts Posted when I can so everyone can do reporting on it.

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Battery Probs..

Battery kept saying 100, but as soon as it was unplugged instantly went to 99.
So i used odin and did the whole nine and charged phone while on had to charge three times back to back and and then it stayed at 100 even after unplugged give it a try..... Hope it works for y'all too!
Where you running a 2.2.1 rom? That battery reating us a known issue
Long way to go for 1%.
Miami_Son said:
Long way to go for 1%.
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lol, some has to have it perfect. ...and yes I'm guilty of that too
Well, if you consider the percentage as being a visual respresentation of the battery's voltage along with a bit of math, then as soon as you remove the charge power, the voltage drops.
It's really nothing like the fuel gauge in your car. Don't get too fixated on it because it's not a very accurate representation of "how charged" the battery is especially at the top, but the 100 is so much better than the stock 10 or so icons... which was more out of sight out of mind.
Yeah I was on 2.2.1. So that drains the batt a little quicker?
Sorry to sound stupid. Still new to all this.
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In 2.2.1 there's an issue discussed in the Perception thread where the system apps sync constantly.
Go to Settings->Applications->Samsung Apps and turn it OFF.
An interesting read for you may be the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806211&highlight=battery+drain thread. I found this useful when I discovered the issue myself.
In 2.2.1, it's a known issue that battery will jump from 100%->98% almost immediately after being unplugged. According to the kernel gods, and if I understand correctly, it's entirely cosmetic, and is just a change in Samsung's reporting functions. So long as it doesn't continue dropping at that rate, I think you're fine.
Thanks for the info.
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[MOD][KERNEL] Battery Life eXtender (BLX)

Older types of rechargable batteries exhibited a 'memory effect' which made it neccessary to completely charge/discharge the battery when using to prevent degradation of the capacity. Modern Lithium-Ion batteries like in the Nexus S do not show this problem and thus it is not necessary to use the battery in complete (dis)charge cycles. In fact on the contrary, it is commonly accepted that both very low and very high charge states accelerate the degradation of the battery capacity (that is why you should store Li-Ion batteries at around 40% charge).
While a low charge state can be simply avoided by charging the device more often, the battery in the Nexus S by default is charged to around 95% capacity and I could not find any app or tweak to stop the charging at a lower capacity. Thus the only way was to use the manual override and pull the cable which is annoying since one had to monitor the charge state.
So I implemented a simple tweak I called Battery Life eXtender (BLX) which can be used to set a limit for the capacity to which the battery will be charged by passing a value between 0 and 101 to 'charging_limit' in '/sys/class/misc/batterylifeextender' (101 by default).
Changes to the source code: http://www.pastie.org/2516542
BUGFIX:
The battery status is set to 'full' once the user defined charging limit is reached.
Bug fix: http://www.pastie.org/2534319
BUGFIX #2:
The charging limit is set to 96 by default which will mimic the behaviour of the stock kernel. Also, the maximum value accepted by 'charging_limit' is set to 96.
Bug fix: http://www.pastie.org/2560599
BUGFIX #3:
1. Made BLX compatible with the 100% charging 'fix'.
2. If the charging limit is set to the maximum charging limit, charging will not be stopped until the interrupt signal is received from the MAX8998 chip.
Bugfix: http://www.pastie.org/2751140
No further patches will be published here. I have set up a git repo for all my tweaks. Each mod has its own branch to keep the tweaks cleanly separated and one can simply pull the latest patches from the corresponding branch.
https://github.com/Ezekeel/GLaDOS-nexus-s/tree/blx
I do not accept donations and since I reached my 50GB limit of free space on SpiderOak, thanks to all of you kind people who got an account using my referral link, I could not ask for more.
Instead if you really want to donate your hard earned money to someone who deserves and needs it, consider donating to the Free Software Foundation at fsf.org: These guys are at the frontline when it comes to keeping Linux free and fighting these greedy bastards who think they are entitled to collect royalties and other fees from Linux users due to some silly patents - and if Linux falls, Android will be next.
Can't wait for Trinity to include this!
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i charge my ns to 100% all the time, i wish that i could charge it even more. lol!
Wow! I am waiting for this for long time!
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simms22 said:
i charge my ns to 100% all the time, i wish that i could charge it even more. lol!
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Yeah, the drawback of course is the shorter battery runtime. If even a fully charged battery still is not enough for you to get over the day, this tweak is not for you. However, I mostly use the Nexus for internet, email and music and for me a fully charged battery last for about 3 days. So in my case when setting the charging limit to let's say 80% that is still plenty of reserves.
Before I wrote this tweak I thought about if it actually makes sense to try and prolong the lifetime of these batteries because they can be easily replaced and are also pretty cheap. However it seemed like a good idea purely from an environmental point of view (even if there is no climate change like Rick PArry totally has convinced me).
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Yeah, the drawback of course is the shorter battery runtime. If even a fully charged battery still is not enough for you to get over the day, this tweak is not for you. However, I mostly use the Nexus for internet, email and music and for me a fully charged battery last for about 3 days. So in my case when setting the charging limit to let's say 80% that is still plenty of reserves.
Before I wrote this tweak I thought about if it actually makes sense to try and prolong the lifetime of these batteries because they can be easily replaced and are also pretty cheap. However it seemed like a good idea purely from an environmental point of view (even if there is no climate change like Rick PArry totally has convinced me).
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i thought about the need to prolong the batterys life too. i thought about how long id be using my phone as a primary device before i get a new one vs the actual life of the battery. i figured id replace the phone before the battery actually died. of course, there is that odd random chance that the battery will die much quicker than expected. my original g1 battery from 2008 is still good, and i abused that phone for a long time. but, there is something else that i didnt think about. there are lots of people in the world that are less fortunate than i am. and they need their devices to last them as long as the devices can because they cant afford getting new ones. and that includes the battery too. they would appreciate something like this. of course, there is that envirenmental thing that you touched upon. less crap destroying our wonderful planet
Ezekeel said:
Yeah, the drawback of course is the shorter battery runtime. If even a fully charged battery still is not enough for you to get over the day, this tweak is not for you. However, I mostly use the Nexus for internet, email and music and for me a fully charged battery last for about 3 days. So in my case when setting the charging limit to let's say 80% that is still plenty of reserves.
Before I wrote this tweak I thought about if it actually makes sense to try and prolong the lifetime of these batteries because they can be easily replaced and are also pretty cheap. However it seemed like a good idea purely from an environmental point of view (even if there is no climate change like Rick PArry totally has convinced me).
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so it is not for hardcore user? I have to recharge the phone every evening *argh* !
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Sounds like Simms is waiting for the Nexus Prime?
simms22 said:
i charge my ns to 100% all the time, i wish that i could charge it even more. lol!
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Sry for the noob question, but how do u charge it to 100%?
I appreciate your work Ezekeel.
I have one suggestion: Can you make one thread with all your MODs included so that it is not fragmented all over the Android Development forum?
That would be very kind of you.
Fantastic...waiting for this!!
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dinuvali said:
Sry for the noob question, but how do u charge it to 100%?
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You have to charge the phone with the screen on.
I'd rather wait for this mod to be implemented in kernels, or roms.
W00T ! This is THE mod I was waiting for since I got my Nexus S ! Thanks a lot Ezekeel for all your work !
WOW! Very nice. I'm waiting)
We want it fast!!!!
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Ezekeel said:
Yeah, the drawback of course is the shorter battery runtime. If even a fully charged battery still is not enough for you to get over the day, this tweak is not for you. However, I mostly use the Nexus for internet, email and music and for me a fully charged battery last for about 3 days. So in my case when setting the charging limit to let's say 80% that is still plenty of reserves.
Before I wrote this tweak I thought about if it actually makes sense to try and prolong the lifetime of these batteries because they can be easily replaced and are also pretty cheap. However it seemed like a good idea purely from an environmental point of view (even if there is no climate change like Rick PArry totally has convinced me).
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What kind of battery you are using, why my battery can only last 1 day with few calls, message and a couple of hours internet.
brainmaster said:
I appreciate your work Ezekeel.
I have one suggestion: Can you make one thread with all your MODs included so that it is not fragmented all over the Android Development forum?
That would be very kind of you.
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Totally agreeing to that.
I concur.
nice - but not something I see myself using so one little question in advance: If I use a kernel that has this and I just delete this config file - will my ns behave as if it had never been there?
brainmaster said:
I appreciate your work Ezekeel.
I have one suggestion: Can you make one thread with all your MODs included so that it is not fragmented all over the Android Development forum?
That would be very kind of you.
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You mean joining all the thread in a single one or creating an additional thread as an index which links to the individual threads?
jaoyina said:
What kind of battery you are using, why my battery can only last 1 day with few calls, message and a couple of hours internet.
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The stock battery with 3G disabled and CPU freq limited to 800GHz.
gotjazz said:
nice - but not something I see myself using so one little question in advance: If I use a kernel that has this and I just delete this config file - will my ns behave as if it had never been there?
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The charging limit is set to 101 by default, so as long as you do not set a different limit this tweak will do nothing at all.

[MYTH] Wiping battery stats helps

There you have it, in the title. Google engineer Dianne Hackborn, who has previously explained Android’s hardware acceleration, took to Google+ again to clarify some myths about the Android operating system. This time, it’s a point of common advice that you’ll see in virtually every FAQ thread about custom ROMs and flashing: wiping battery stats in order to improve battery life.
The reasoning behind that piece of advice was something like this: If you, at some point, did not charge your Android device fully (for example, only to 80%), it would supposedly remember that battery level as “fully charged” – in this case, you’d only ever get to use 80% of your battery, which is of course less than optimal. So, if you wipe the battery stats, usually done in ClockWord Mod Recovery, the device would “forget” the previous level, here 80%, and instead charge to the full 100% once again, thereby re-calibrating the battery. Or, as Hackborn puts it in more technical terms:
"The battery indicator in the status/notification bar is a reflection of the batterystats.bin file in the data/system/ directory."
However, as she explains, that’s not the case. Because those battery stats, stored in the batterystats.bin file, are only used to maintain information about what is using the battery when not recharging. That is, it essentially holds the information displayed in the Settings > Battery screen. Nothing more, nothing less. Thus:
It has no impact on the current battery level shown to you.
It has no impact on your battery life.
What’s more, you’ve probably noticed that the battery usage data is reset once you recharge your device anyway. From this you can correctly deduce that the battery stats are wiped as well – every time your device is recharged. More or less every day. If there was any effect, you would’ve noticed it without going into recovery and doing that stuff. Typical placebo, eh?
Original Article here:
[MYTH] Wiping batt stats helps save battery life
Just because it makes sense, and comes from someone who should know, do you think we are going to believe it? =P
Just kidding. Thanks again!
Interesting, so why is it when I flash something and let's say my bat is @ 20% but after rebooting I'm down to 4%
Doesn't do that all the time but it is odd.
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I saw that behavior on my previous Revo. Sounds like a good question to ask her.
I stopped "calibrating" the battery since that previous phone and have had no problems. Reading mtm say that he never calibrates with all he does with his phone, I am on that boat. Reading the quotes above is reassuring.
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KaneOfMars said:
Interesting, so why is it when I flash something and let's say my bat is @ 20% but after rebooting I'm down to 4%
Doesn't do that all the time but it is odd.
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I've had this too not sure what it is.
I had that same problem Kane. More than once
I've been Supercharged and Gingervolted!
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I had that same problem Kane. More than once
I've been Supercharged and Gingervolted!
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I have too and that's the whole reason I calibrate is because I thought it would give me more accurate readings. Plus, maybe I'm losing it, but I always feel like I get better battery life in the middle of the calibration process.
But after reading this, maybe I am crazy lol
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I calibrated aswell but, it still did same ****
I've been Supercharged and Gingervolted!
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I calibrated aswell but, it still did same ****
I've been Supercharged and Gingervolted!
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yea I have heard that calibrating doesn't do anything but never had legit confirmation till now
KaneOfMars said:
Interesting, so why is it when I flash something and let's say my bat is @ 20% but after rebooting I'm down to 4%
Doesn't do that all the time but it is odd.
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It's a volts/amps thing. The lower your battery is, the faster it will drain. Rebooting your phone takes a lot more energy for all the necessary operations during a boot up. Without going into detail, the amperage will pull voltage down faster on a curve as the battery level gets lower, just as it does when charging.
When charging, batteries will not only appear to charge faster for the first 40-50%, but they are because the charge voltage is much higher than the battery voltage, giving more force of energy movement. As the battery voltage increases, that force is less, therefore taking longer to push amps into the battery.
The reverse is in effect on draining. I would safely say that you likely wouldn't see that much of a percentage of change for a reboot when your battery was fully, or near full charged.
Hope that helps... I also see a major percentage drop when rebooting my phone with a battery at less than 40% charge left in it. If the battery is mostly charged, I don't notice much more than a percent or two drop.
If this isn't helpful enough and need a better explanation, just let me know and I will try to explain it better. It's just basic electricity 101.
-Cybie
@ cybie
Thanks for that bit of info, your explanation was very clear
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the battery drop seems to happen quite often when you flash a ROM mostly I have a question might sound dumb but since the phone is on and all systems are being active wouldnt that use more of your battery life
Damn you Hicks... next you are going to tell me unicorns aren't real.
Yesterday I was at 25% I reboot, and it warned me that I was at 15% upon starting up. I don't think it has anything to do with anything. The phone ran as though the life was still at 25% (an hour or so with heavy-ish usage.) If I have done a lot of rom-ing and theme-ing I will recalibrate (just as a reassurance to myself) I am sure it makes no difference, but it puts me at ease, and really being self centered... isn't that what life is all about?
Poor communication between the battery stat program, and the display program, could this be the thing that is driving everyone nuts? Maybe the two programs need a class to express their feelings better.
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Damn you Hicks... next you are going to tell me unicorns aren't real.
Yesterday I was at 25% I reboot, and it warned me that I was at 15% upon starting up. I don't think it has anything to do with anything. The phone ran as though the life was still at 25% (an hour or so with heavy-ish usage.) If I have done a lot of rom-ing and theme-ing I will recalibrate (just as a reassurance to myself) I am sure it makes no difference, but it puts me at ease, and really being self centered... isn't that what life is all about?
Poor communication between the battery stat program, and the display program, could this be the thing that is driving everyone nuts? Maybe the two programs need a class to express their feelings better.
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Lol sorry! I'm really not trying to be all "doom and gloom." Just thought it was an interesting find lol.
An Observation
Back in the day I had an Incredible. It was truly an incredible phone. With the exception of the battery of course. There were/are always two camps or schools of thoughts about the battery. One was that you have to "condition" your battery to get better life, the other was "F it, the battery is fine". There was also the "bump charge" mythos going around as well. I think, and this is just my opinion, this is the same thing as the wiping of battery stats every time you flash a ROM.
My experience, both on the Incredible, the Inc II, the Charge, Revo and Bionic, (some of these are my wife's phones) is that conditioning the battery, or wiping battery stats are just really, as Spc pointed out, a myth. Our batteries die faster when we flash a new ROM cuz we are playing with it more. We have a new toy again.. same with themes...or new kernels.
Every time I wipe my battery stats I end up with much worse battery life for several days.
But thank you Hicks for posting the article. Its always good to read a debunked myth!! Bravo!!
These opinions are mine and not intended to troll, or irritate or annoy people. If I do, sorry.
Not sure if anyone else has seen this....but i've found charging a little while longer after it says 100% seems to provide battery life.
If it take it off the charger right away...i get about 8-10hours. If i keep it on a few hours longer, i seem to get about 12.
I'm running at 1.2GHz...gVolt

Unknown issue with auto-shutdown on Galaxy note GT N7000!

Hello everyone!
I have recently purchased a galaxy note, and since then have had a constant problem of auto shutdown, at the beginning it happened once or twice so I didn't even mind, but now its just becoming too frequent for the phone to even be usable!
I can't return the note, and have no warranty (nor money to buy another one). Son no viable solution there.
I sold my previous phone so I could buy the Note, without it I am phoneless.
I have looked EVERYWHERE for a solution and haven't come to one single conclusion yet!
I will now post some facts about the phone's situation:
Model GT N7000
Rooted: yes, via cwm
Rom: Jelly Bean 4.1.2 Beta, flashed via cwm (but the issue occurred on stock ICS, gingerbread and costom ROMs too, stock ROMs where flashed via PC ODIN and mobile ODIN)
Kernel: Phillz flashed via cwm
-Does not shut down while connected to charger (and is charging).
-Tried different kernels and ROMs, official and custom ones, and the bug kept happening.
-Shutdowns are completely random (although I found that using ROM Toolbox and setting CPU min to 500 and governor to Performance the phone became more stable and didn't shutdown so frequently. Recently these last 3 days this has become pointless, the phone is unusable unless connected to charger)
-Auto shutdowns happen when phone is in sleep, or awake, no matter what I am doing with it, it just happens.
I am thinking of replacing the battery, since no matter what software changes I do it keeps shutting down maybe a new battery will help.
But then again, I don't know, I'm just desperate...
Thank you for all those who take the time to read this!
Interesting, maybe the logs show something. Check logcat app for that. Elixer2 has a good overviewable one. There might be some hints shown as to what is happening. I cant really help you with interpreting.
Do you do clean installs? mind the brickbug
Battery levels, they show correct values? Also after reboot same value as before? You can set in settings, display I think battery tp percent. Easier monitoring from statusbar.
Try andrometer to check voltage levels as wel. Fully charged should be around 4200 mv.
Do a little dance to brighten up your mood.
Next, or first, check if battery contacts are clean and alligned when putting battery in. It might just be a loose fitting. I doubt that thought.
With autoshutdown, you seen android saying, shutting down now, or does it go black and just crashes so to speak?
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Thank you so much for the help!
I have been suggested to purchase another battery, and had actually been thinking about that!
Will andrometer confirm my suspicions that it is a battery issue?
The battery connectors are clean, cleaned them when this problem first appeared.
And the shutdown is as if I suddenly removed the battery, the power is cut right off the device.
I cant dance but I'll play guitar, that always helps me, thank you for the suggestion! xD
hum, not software related imo, really an hardware issue, electrical issue, related to battery as it does not occur while charged.
first of all: easily done: remove any SD card and try. still the Pb?
then borrow another battery, fully charged, and try. Still the PB?
then with your own battery again (as it does not come from the battery), check the electrical contacts (dirty, embossed...), try to check that mechanically the battery is firmly kept in place, add sticky tape/pieces of paper to maintain the battery. Still the PB?
then i am afraid that the best to do is going to... after sale service... it may be only a small welding a bit cracked on the power circuit, sometimes a small vibration or a temperature difference opens the power line and your phone immediately shut down. It is almost impossible to locate and to fix for common people.
good luck mate !
Side note: setting CPU min to 500 and then setting governor to Performance is pointless, because performance = always max CPU frequency.
Anyway, I can think of various ways of checking whether your CPU is misbehaving at some frequencies (like SetCPU stress tests on different freqs set to both min and max) but that's likely not the case, all signs do point to some kind of battery issue.
If I were you, I'd try to find a battery somewhere (friend/relative/whoever else with GNote, or even a shop) and see if the problem persists with another battery. If it disappears = buy a new battery, whether official or copy or bigger size, whatever. If it persists = at least try to flash some more customizable rom/kernel combination, of ICS kind - where you can over/under-clock/volt.
Thank you saturax555 and GwynBleidd for your suggestions!
Unfortunatlly I dont know anyone close to me that has got a Gnote, but I will buy the battery and test it out, its not expensive at all, I've seen a 2600 (Or 2400, can't quite remember) mha battery for salle somewhere, if it fixes the issue I'll even end up with a larger battery!
I'll inform you guys of the results after I get a new battery, so if anyone else has the same problem we can help them too
RubenLockheart said:
Thank you so much for the help!
I have been suggested to purchase another battery, and had actually been thinking about that!
Will andrometer confirm my suspicions that it is a battery issue?
The battery connectors are clean, cleaned them when this problem first appeared.
And the shutdown is as if I suddenly removed the battery, the power is cut right off the device.
I cant dance but I'll play guitar, that always helps me, thank you for the suggestion! xD
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+1 on all above comments. It does appear battery/ hardware issue. Lets hope a new battery fixes it.
Andrometer will only confirm if charging level is reached. Also you can use it to check if at certain voltage this occures. It gives false positive on good health battery.So thats not a thorough indicator.
Guitar is way cooler btw :thumbup:
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I searched for andrometer and all I got was an app to measure distance using GPS :s
So I got battery spy today and these are the results so far (See image).
My voltage is usually around 3900mV and 4300mV, usually at 4192mV, can anyone say if these values are normal??
RubenLockheart said:
I searched for andrometer and all I got was an app to measure distance using GPS :s
So I got battery spy today and these are the results so far (See image).
My voltage is usually around 3900mV and 4300mV, usually at 4192mV, can anyone say if these values are normal??
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Appears normal. Battery appears charged. app is called androsensor, mixed them up.
Do you get weird artifacts prior to fallout? Like screen flickering, lines and such?
Am so interested in cracking this nut.
You could check emmc brickbug app. You will have bug as all notes, but it also does a sector check. Like if part of emmc is corrupted. Am not expecting this to be case as clearly its battery related. Just want to be sure.
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No flickering or anything, it's just like if I suddenly removed the battery.
Got new results from emmc check and I downloaded andrometer
Thank you so much for your help!
Cool.
I have a hunch its not battery, cause unstable battery usually(not 100% sure about symptoms) has those flickering issues.
Its not emmc, test passed yes!
you had it on different roms. With clean installs and different modems, kernels, etc. No common denominator romwise. maybe app or hardware.
Then its interesting to keep both cpu temp and battery temp in check. See if there are spikes prior to fallout. cpu temp I am not sure. you can try cooltool, disable gauges and setup cpu utilization, frequency, ram size, battery % and temperature.
watch those values for abnormalities when it occurs.
Also check the logs for errors/warnings (elixer2 has a good one)
But I am at a point of really guessing. I have a feeling its hardware but am hoping now for rogue app or battery still.
maybe someone else has some ideas.
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Hey guys! My new battery just arrived and I just plugged it into my note and it is back to normal!
It's an official galaxy note replacement battery, 2600mah (100 more then the original, not much of a difference I know) and it was relatively cheap, 15 euros and I even had it delivered to my house!
I want to thank you guys for all your help and advices!
Thank you all from the heart! You contributed to making me a lot happier today!!
Best wishes for all of you, (dare I call you) my friends!
Thank you!
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RubenLockheart said:
Hey guys! My new battery just arrived and I just plugged it into my note and it is back to normal!
It's an official galaxy note replacement battery, 2600mah (100 more then the original, not much of a difference I know) and it was relatively cheap, 15 euros and I even had it delivered to my house!
I want to thank you guys for all your help and advices!
Thank you all from the heart! You contributed to making me a lot happier today!!
Best wishes for all of you, (dare I call you) my friends!
Thank you!
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No problem m8, thats what we are here for. Am helped with Q's myself so often, guess we all want to help back
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No problem m8, thats what we are here for. Am helped with Q's myself so often, guess we all want to help back
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I had this same issue.. Mine was bought last year.. Just around 2 weeks ago i want to root and put a custom Rom...
I root using cf-root + philz kernel.. Then i flash rocketrom 4.1.2... V3 i think.. Then this issue came.... It 's does have flickering issue before it' s going off.. This all thing doesn't happen while on charge... I'm still not try using others battery..... I also have flash others custom Rom.. Like Ultimate, fusion.... And lastly i unroot it using stock fw at sammobile.. Still it's happen
Try changing the battery, that fixed my note right up!
Is the symptoms are the same as mine its not software related, order a new battery, and if you want you can root and flash the rom that you want so when it arrives your note is ready to go!
Tip: root the note and get battery calibration from the play store, it's free, you will need it to recalibrate your new battery so you get real values displayed and to avoid excessive battery drain.
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I'm facing the same problem and its getting frustrating. I'm currently using Asylum ROM 20130303 build and latest Gapps for android 4.2. did a full wipe. tried checking my battery stats and its normal. did a recovery, flashed again but still problem. my gnote just shutdown and cant turn back on unless i plug the charger. any help?
may be you first need to try with an alternate battery first.. or go back to a stock rom and test.. most prominent symptom is using the camera with flash shuts down the phone immediately
i purchased a new battery and now its running fine
The phone is flawed and shuts off on it's own under various conditions, all hardware related. I am not able to post externally due to not having enough posts yet. However, I have had the same issue on 3 Galaxy Note 2's from Verizon. I made a video that shows exactly what is going on and posted it on the following website...
wwwDOTgalaxynote2shutsoffDOTcom
You will have to paste that link in to a new browser and replace the DOTs accordingly to get to it, but once you see the video, you will be enlightened. Be sure to read the details I provided on that site as well. They go in to detail about the problems that I have had and the lack of proper support that Samsung is willing to provide.
Same issue
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may be you first need to try with an alternate battery first.. or go back to a stock rom and test.. most prominent symptom is using the camera with flash shuts down the phone immediately
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I seem to have the same issue
1. Battery drains rather bad
2. Screen flickering
3. Auto shutdowm
Used the battery in my wifes n7000 , however no issues at all
Only seem to happen on my phone.
I flashed it to stock std 4.1.2 , however problem still persist. auto shutdown few times a day
Gets worse when i use an external SD

Time for a change

Hi All,
I have finally shortlisted optimus g and nexus 4. I have to finalize one.
Nexus 4: 16 GB, Optimus G: 32 G
Nexus 4 Latest updates, Optimus G: very slow updates( I meant very slow), and every small developing community ( i meant really very small)
Nexus 4: no LTE, Optimus G: Supports LTE (in india LTE not available)
Nexus 4: no USB OTG support, Optimus G: (Supports pen drive mouse keyboard u name it)
Both devices have reported back cover crack issues and over heating issues. Please provide your views on this.
Both looks good.
Howz gaming performance?
Nexus in india is 25k where as optimus g is 30 k.
So which one to go for.
Currently using Incs for almost 2 years, awesome build quality and pretty good developing community.
Well if I'm not mistaken the nexus 4 is based of the lg. So with that in mind I'd go for the nexus 4.
Nexus 4
Cheaper
Latest version of android
Not sure if, but will probably get 4.3 version of android
So go for the nexus
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noremac258 said:
Well if I'm not mistaken the nexus 4 is based of the lg. So with that in mind I'd go for the nexus 4.
Nexus 4
Cheaper
Latest version of android
Not sure if, but Will probably get 4.3 version of android
So go for the nexus
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Correction. So yes, I would suggest the Nexus 4. Its got a nice big developer community too.
I thought you could turn the optimus into a N4 with a mod on xda
No joke
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I thought you could turn the optimus into a N4 with a mod on xda
No joke
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Yes we can convert n4 to og with a mod but lg abandons there devices once new device is out. Lg g pro is out.. Og2 is about to come.. So og will be a history. Very less development support.
FYI: the phone is available from august 2012 almost a year and just 38 threads in development section
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Yes we can convert n4 to og with a mod but lg abandons there devices once new device is out. Lg g pro is out.. Og2 is about to come.. So og will be a history. Very less development support.
FYI: the phone is available from august 2012 almost a year and just 38 threads in development section
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True but once it's a nexus 4 you don't have go worry about updates, you can have the latest android updates and versions with a N4 Rom
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Wait for the next Nexus if can't wait, go for Nexus 4.... you'll always get the most current Android
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getting an incredible s
hi guys, i need some opinions here
i'm thinking of getting an incredible s, as i got bored with the hd2 already
i liked incredible s because it fits right into my hand, and i liked holding it. here are my questions:
1) how is the phone? is it still fast for today's standard? (i'm thinking of using sense 4.1 roms)
2) will the speed of the rom increase if i use class 10 cards? my freind used a class10 on his nexushd2 ics and he said there's a noticeable
performance jump, but im skeptical
3) will there be any issues if i used sun global batteries with custom roms? i heard a while back that third-party batteries aren't compatible with
custom roms
thanks for your time yeah?
hasif63 said:
hi guys, i need some opinions here
i'm thinking of getting an incredible s, as i got bored with the hd2 already
i liked incredible s because it fits right into my hand, and i liked holding it. here are my questions:
1) how is the phone? is it still fast for today's standard? (i'm thinking of using sense 4.1 roms)
2) will the speed of the rom increase if i use class 10 cards? my freind used a class10 on his nexushd2 ics and he said there's a noticeable
performance jump, but im skeptical
3) will there be any issues if i used sun global batteries with custom roms? i heard a while back that third-party batteries aren't compatible with
custom roms
thanks for your time yeah?
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The Incredible S is a great phone but I think that in this current time and age, you can do a lot better.
For question 2, ummm, there is certainly the possibility but I think it would only be faster in regards to the activities related to the micro sd card. I think someone else should help me here. :laugh:
For question 3, batteries don't affect a ROM's booting and compatibility with custom ROM's. They are just batteries (like the stock one HTC gives you) that provides juice for your phone.
getting an incredible s
072665995 said:
The Incredible S is a great phone but I think that in this current time and age, you can do a lot better.
For question 2, ummm, there is certainly the possibility but I think it would only be faster in regards to the activities related to the micro sd card. I think someone else should help me here. :laugh:
For question 3, batteries don't affect a ROM's booting and compatibility with custom ROM's. They are just batteries (like the stock one HTC gives you) that provides juice for your phone.
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because i don't want to spend too much on a phone. besides, incredible s is pretty cheap in my area nowadays. i haven't used any proper android phone before. HD2 was a pseudo-android phone :laugh:
umm... so do i have to do any battery calibrations if i used third-party batteries?
hasif63 said:
because i don't want to spend too much on a phone. besides, incredible s is pretty cheap in my area nowadays. i haven't used any proper android phone before. HD2 was a pseudo-android phone :laugh:
umm... so do i have to do any battery calibrations if i used third-party batteries?
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You shouldn't need any additional calibration.
buying htc incredible s
072665995 said:
You shouldn't need any additional calibration.
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nice... good to know that :good:
hasif63 said:
nice... good to know that :good:
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You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
Hnk1 said:
You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
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They are not always necessary. 80% of the time when I flash a new ROM, I don't bother with wiping battery stats simply because it does not make a notable difference in battery life or readings whatsoever. I only calibrate battery if and ONLY if I know that I'm supposed to be getting better battery on a particular ROM
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They are not always necessary. 80% of the time when I flash a new ROM, I don't bother with wiping battery stats simply because it does not make a notable difference in battery life or readings whatsoever. I only calibrate battery if and ONLY if I know that I'm supposed to be getting better battery on a particular ROM
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Hnk1 said:
You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
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Seriously?
How many times does it take for people to realize that wiping battery stats is probably just as useful as trying to unlock the screen by screaming at it?
If you need the sources for why the battery stats doesn't matter at all, just look through my earlier posts Google it. I'm currently on 2G so it'll take ages for me to find it.
(No, not trying to sound hostile or anything, just tired of people still wasting their time on wiping the battery stats)
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nice... good to know that :good:
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Splux said:
Seriously?
How many times does it take for people to realize that wiping battery stats is probably just as useful as trying to unlock the screen by screaming at it?
If you need the sources for why the battery stats doesn't matter at all, just look through my earlier posts Google it. I'm currently on 2G so it'll take ages for me to find it.
(No, not trying to sound hostile or anything, just tired of people still wasting their time on wiping the battery stats)
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After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a better than waitng for battery to settle down.
"Better performance and battery-life is why most of us turn to custom ROMs. We keep trying from the available ROMs and stick to one that meets up to our expectations. Now there are two ways to find out how the battery performs- with the help of a battery monitor app (stock or third-party) and by taking note of the battery performance during the hours of a day.
If you feel that your device is not yielding good battery just because the battery monitor stats show it, you might be wrong in your judgement as most such apps sometimes lie to us.
Remember that with any ROM installed on your Android device, you will discover two things: 1. battery heat up, and 2. battery drain. And these issues for the most part are due to process of your phone’s new software and battery sync. It usually requires 3-4 full-charge and discharge cycles before things go to a normal state and after this, you will notice great improvement in battery performance. So, do not be quick in concluding anything about battery.
Let the battery calibrate and while you wait try one more thing. Whether you get a new phone or new software on your old device, avoid putting your device into charging mode frequently. Turn off the phone, plug charger, wait till it is fully charged and then use it till it is fully discharged. Repeating this several times will improve the battery-life of your device. I have tested it and it really works. "
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Hnk1 said:
After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a required if you are having problems!
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Calibrating as in fully charge and then let it discharge to <5%, yes. As in removing a file which only saves what apps used how much battery, how the *beeeep* is that supposed to help your battery?
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Hnk1 said:
After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a better than waitng for battery to settle down.
"Better performance and battery-life is why most of us turn to custom ROMs. We keep trying from the available ROMs and stick to one that meets up to our expectations. Now there are two ways to find out how the battery performs- with the help of a battery monitor app (stock or third-party) and by taking note of the battery performance during the hours of a day.
If you feel that your device is not yielding good battery just because the battery monitor stats show it, you might be wrong in your judgement as most such apps sometimes lie to us.
Remember that with any ROM installed on your Android device, you will discover two things: 1. battery heat up, and 2. battery drain. And these issues for the most part are due to process of your phone’s new software and battery sync. It usually requires 3-4 full-charge and discharge cycles before things go to a normal state and after this, you will notice great improvement in battery performance. So, do not be quick in concluding anything about battery.
Let the battery calibrate and while you wait try one more thing. Whether you get a new phone or new software on your old device, avoid putting your device into charging mode frequently. Turn off the phone, plug charger, wait till it is fully charged and then use it till it is fully discharged. Repeating this several times will improve the battery-life of your device. I have tested it and it really works. "
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Splux said:
Calibrating as in fully charge and then let it discharge to <5%, yes. As in removing a file which only saves what apps used how much battery, how the *beeeep* is that supposed to help your battery?
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whoops i mistook battery calibration as wiping battery stats :silly:
but yeah, honestly, my battery rarely falls below 30%. Im more of a go home then walk out a couple hours later so charging from 5% takes a bit too long. Thus I never do battery calibration. In addition it doesn't really do anything. Battery does not improve to a noticeable point where its actually worth the 5 or 6 hours wait to charge the phone :/
072665995 said:
whoops i mistook battery calibration as wiping battery stats :silly:
but yeah, honestly, my battery rarely falls below 30%. Im more of a go home then walk out a couple hours later so charging from 5% takes a bit too long. Thus I never do battery calibration. In addition it doesn't really do anything. Battery does not improve to a noticeable point where its actually worth the 5 or 6 hours wait to charge the phone :/
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5-6 hours to charge from 5%?! Occasionally I kill my battery (it's actually good to do that once in a while) and it doesn't take that long to recharge for me
Do you use a cheap charger with like 500mA output?
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5-6 hours to charge from 5%?! Occasionally I kill my battery (it's actually good to do that once in a while) and it doesn't take that long to recharge for me
Do you use a cheap charger with like 500mA output?
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err no
its the one HTC gave me

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