My friend wants me to help him root his fascinate then flash a rom for it. I've noticed that the captivate on this forum has wayyy many more support compared to the fascinate. Just wondering if I can root and flash his phone to what I did to my captivate, using the same process? And using the same roms?
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Same process. i think. either way it is easy. I don't know if the one click meathods work but there should be an update.zip root specific to the fascinate as long as it is on eclair. So tell him not to update if the update drops and it should soon. Froyo has a different recovery that wont run the update.zip
If the phone has froyo you would need to flash with odin or root with a longer and more complicated meathod.
different roms. The fascinate is not a gsm phone like the captivate and vibrant and most of the rest of the galaxy s line. The rom kernel and modem are fascinate specific. There isn't any interchangability other than the apps and widgets.
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Get facts straight, the fascinate is so a gsm phone infact TELUS released it this month. making it ATT usable.
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Get facts straight, the fascinate is so a gsm phone infact TELUS released it this month. making it ATT usable.
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a) you should check your facts, there are TWO versions of the Fascinate. There is the Verizon Fascinate which is CDMA and the Telus Fascinate 3G+ which is GSM.
b) if the OP is referencing the Verizon one, no, Captivate ROM's cannot be used on it
c) if you are referencing the Telus one, it's possible, but there will likely be bugs so I wouldn't recommend it
d) rooting should be a sinch with the one-click tool, if you have the Verizon one, grab the one-click root from any SGS forum since they should all work. If you have the Telus one, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838625
I owned a Vibrant, Verizon Fascinate, and now the Captivate. You can root any of them with OCLF from the market place.
u can root with anythiung, but u gotta use facisnate roms...
more than likely the fascinate would be flashable with captivate or any galaxy S roms....its been done a number of times between the phones
there are glitches here and there, like the battery drain with vibrant roms and the inverted buttons, headphones not working, etc etc
as long as you were flashing with odin and flashing the VERIZON modem file then i imagine it would work just fine....there's only one way to find out
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more than likely the fascinate would be flashable with captivate or any galaxy S roms....its been done a number of times between the phones.
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Yes, but between the Vibrant, GT-i9000, and the Captivate/i896, those are all GSM variants. I don't think I'd ever cross GSM and CDMA ROM's.
Yeah do not do that the radios or modems Im sure are different.
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Well no, even among gsm phones with similar layouts compatability is not complete. I don't know if the radio is the same hardware, out may be but despite its looks the layout is different from the vibrant having the speaker phone speaker located differently and being thinner the kernel may be entirely different.
For instance the vibrant kernel on a captivate screws up the home and back buttons and other things. Using a vibrant modem breaks bluetooth audio, but using a bell vibrant gt i9000m modem which more resembles a gt-i9000 works without flaw. But the regular gt i9000 modem has similar issue to the t mobile vibrant. Captivate modems on i9000 kernels can cause battery drain. Ect ect.... Some mixing and matching works, some doesn't. But at a minimum you would lose functionality of the camera flash.
On another note the gsm fascinate appears to be a t mobile vibrant. Soo who knows about that phone.
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Same process? Yes... mostly. I have rooted and flashed my mom's Verizon Fascinate.
The only difference is that you have to use Odin to setup a recovery partition compatible with CW Recovery.
Step-by-Step Process Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788099
Then use Rom Manager to download a ROM and flash away...
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Same ROMs? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO
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Any US ROM's available for the Galaxy S yet? Also, can the Captivate and Vibrant use the standard galaxy ROM's?
thanks!
I did read somewhere the the US phones can possibly use the PDA from our firmware and vice versa. HOWEVER, I haven't seen any confirmation and I would hold off until someone has confirmed it should/does work.
Some of our custom ROMs (update.zip files) may work but some may also cause bugs. That will also depend on the fw you have installed on your captivate/vibrant
I have i9000 jm2 firmware on the us version of the captivate.i also used jm1 csc file when flashing. Afterwards, flashed the captivate kernel. I also used the sam set 1.6 with it. So far so good. No problem so far. Used it for whole day.
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^Wait how exactly did you do it? I have a Samsung Vibrant and wouldn't mind having Froyo tomorrow.
I'm curious as to why so many people are still flashing their phones (with JK4) when so many others are having problems.
Also, are any people having problems with Gingerbread flashed to the I9000M?
Now, when I get my SGS back, I will be paranoid to do anything to it (It died after JK4 update). I would like to root it so I can install titanium back-up and others, but should I take the chance?
What about Gingerbread? I guess it can also kill the phone like JK4 did. I guess with this phone anything you do you are taking a chance.
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Jk4 was perfect for me. (guess I'm lucky after already having to send it in once).
I would hold off on gingerbread. It's not going to be ready any time soon.
The modem file is used for us Captivate users to have 850 3g and use i9000 roms with a reorientated kernel.
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The modem file is used for us Captivate users to have 850 3g and use i9000 roms with a reorientated kernel.
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Huh? You want to captivate user's modems so 850 3rd graders can eat Oriental Krispy Kernels with 9000 Rom-ulans?
Recently the internal SD card failed on my captivate and it was completely bricked. I managed to get att to replace it for me, but I had just updated to the most recent build of the cognition rom a few days before. Is it at all possible that a rom could cause a hardware failure like that? They also said the sim card needed to be replaced.
I really want to put a rom on my new phone (hate the stock)but I don't know if I should worry about it or if I was just unlucky.
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Bell Canada had to pull the first Froyo update for their Galaxy S phones because it was frying people's MicroSD cards.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/18/samsung-pulls-froyo-update-for-bells-vibrant-after-reports-of-f/
I have been on custom roms for months. There is always a risk. Not many have reported your issue so I am not sure it was a rom specific thing
I do not think cognition used the bell vibrant port, perception did and design gears pulled it at one point in time
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I thought folks in Canada were supposed to use Perception and not Cognition?
But I would stay away from any 2.2.1 ROM's at the moment if they are using the same builds that are potentially frying SDCards. Read the dev's posts about the builds and flashers beware
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I thought folks in Canada were supposed to use Perception and not Cognition?
But I would stay away from any 2.2.1 ROM's at the moment if they are using the same builds that are potentially frying SDCards. Read the dev's posts about the builds and flashers beware
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Most 2.2.1 are jpy base and this issue was a 2.2 port.
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So then can I assume all the eclair builds are pretty safe and should just wait a while till the froyo builds are out of beta?
Most 2.2 roms are safe.
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Most 2.2 roms are safe.
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the sd card frying was do to the i9000m kernel(i believe). design gears started compiling his own kernels after some dispute with setiron. and i believe a certain version of perception was a telus t959d fascinate rom with a kernel he built from i9000m bell vibrant sources instead of i9000 international source. days later the new was released that this was happening all over canada and he pulled the perception download. you are not the only one and all of the current roms and kernels are not built with that source. it is a shame because that was not a beta of any kind. that was an official update for the canadian version of the galaxy s. that said the att betas are deffinately safe. and the froyo roms for the i9000 i9000m (*not the kernel) t959 and t959d are all pretty safe. the biggest side effect is bad battery life and voice mail that may not work, or apn settings that you have to put in yourself. as long as you use a i9000 kernel with certain patches for orientation and button behavior and headphone jack logic you should have a fully functioning phone. hardcores speed mod kernel is great and gliterballs's kernel is good for a stable overclock with under volt, it also benchmarks better on some benchmarks in the market for equal clock settings.
i wont tell you not to flash froyo, that would be a shame to miss out on. what i will say is let all the flash addicts flash first, after a couple days read the thread and see what issues people are having.
also i think but i dont know but i think the full version of odin could repartition the sd card, i may be mistaken as to the nature of the sd card failure but i think some people were able to recover there phones.
now good luck with your new captivate.
I'm looking for a gingerbread install for a bell I9000-m basically just need to make sure that the swype keyboard is fairly decent or similar to the bell one and whichever replacement is found here.
Im guessing I'll need a link to a stock modem driver but I've never done this before with much success besides just kindof bumbeling through a bit.
Let me know anything that could help in my quest here.
I would like to find some links to a good set of files for this update. I've read at many places that for bell you must ask for specific files for this task as it must be more complicated for the bell setup for some reason.
Even a Nexus S firmware if port-able to this device would be fine.
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I'm looking for a gingerbread install for a bell I9000-m basically just need to make sure that the swype keyboard is fairly decent or similar to the bell one and whichever replacement is found here.
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Any firmware for the i9000 works on the i9000m. There are plenty of threads in the development section with gb roms. Just download the KC1 modem for either Odin or CWM and flash that - I won't get into details, there are a bazillion threads discussing how to do this properly on the i9000m
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Let me know anything that could help in my quest here.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=656&nojs=1#goto_forumsearch
chamunks said:
I would like to find some links to a good set of files for this update. I've read at many places that for bell you must ask for specific files for this task as it must be more complicated for the bell setup for some reason.
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You need to stop reading whatever forums you're reading, and stick to this one. There are no specific files, and it is no more complicated than any other i9000.
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Even a Nexus S firmware if port-able to this device would be fine.
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Then use Cyanogenmod. Again, all of these are in the development subforum.
You mention Cyanogenmod but wouldnt that be froyo?
I didnt really mean just link me to the specific forum subgroup I was hoping for some more specific direction I realize my question wasn't that clear i suppose. Anyways I've basically just had trouble changing the firmware on this device before and I really dont want to end up bricking it with a bad firmware flash.
Basically a good starting point example link would be fantastic I will do some more research and if i manage to do this myself I will post my findings just to close the thread.
Flash JVH and then flash KC1 modem, done.
I also dont want to install a beta gingerbread release if at all avoidable and mostly a vanilla or highly reccomended third party custom would be fine too.
JVH is official release in parts of Europe. I'm with Bell, running JVH with KC1 modem since its release and absolutely no issues.
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You mention Cyanogenmod but wouldnt that be froyo?
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No, CM7 is 2.3.4 which is Gingerbread. Cyanogenmod 6 (which was froyo afaik) never really came to be on the i9000.
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I didnt really mean just link me to the specific forum subgroup I was hoping for some more specific direction I realize my question wasn't that clear i suppose. Anyways I've basically just had trouble changing the firmware on this device before and I really dont want to end up bricking it with a bad firmware flash.
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There isn't really anything specific for the i9000m. Really, its just a matter of picking a rom and following the flashing instructions. If you're flashing a stock release (like JVH lets say), use Odin, flash the tarball with update bootloader checked and once thats done, flash an appropriate modem for Bell (for 850mhz), like KC1 that I find works very well.
If you're flashing a cooked rom, like those in the development subforum, then you'd flash something like JVH, flash an appropriate kernel with clockworkmod (I prefer speedmod, but there are others), then you'd install the cooked rom through cwm recovery.
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Basically a good starting point example link would be fantastic I will do some more research and if i manage to do this myself I will post my findings just to close the thread.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011901
That thread should have all the information you need on flashing JVH along with screenshots and links to the roms.
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I also dont want to install a beta gingerbread release if at all avoidable and mostly a vanilla or highly reccomended third party custom would be fine too.
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As others have said, JVH is an official release for a lot of European carriers. It will work fine on the i9000m. I was running JVH + KC1 Modem for a while before switching to the latest Cyanogenmod nightly (which works absolutely fantastic now).
If you're looking for an official Bell Gingerbread release.... you'll just have to keep waiting. Bell is slower than the second coming. Just keep a full KC1 or JL2 (with bootloaders) around so you can flash back to stock if you need be.
Also, you said you had trouble flashing before. I'd suggest following that link in my post above, and if you get stuck, come back and we can step you through.
And finally, you really can't brick you phone as long as you are able to access download mode and 3 button recovery. Absolutely make sure you can access these two modes before flashing anything.
I have actually had issues getting into recovery mode sometimes but not usually, but have no problem entering download mode. I think at one point I wound up with upload mode... which doesent seem to be documented... But dont quote me on that one as it was a while ago (after searching high and low on my NAS I cant find the photo i took sorry). I have actually had to send this phone off to bell to get them to fix it twice now.
Once due to my inability to do this properly without making a forum post asking these question and another due to a bad Kies update sending my phone into a boot loop.
So you say Cyanogen nightly works well im thinking I might give that a shot as im sure there are good reasons why you would want to use cyanogen over another release. Im just hoping for no weird Telco specific crap on my phone unless its Bell specific if i must have even that.
Would I go into the ROM list thread for the cyanogenmod nightly? http://goo.gl/IBbEm
Which leads me to this? http://goo.gl/b5UwG
or is there a better way to obtain CM7? Also what would be a good location to try and find my modem driver (KC1)?
I'm sorry to spam questions here but one final one. Would there be a good boot loader that I should strive for, if any?
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JVH is official release in parts of Europe. I'm with Bell, running JVH with KC1 modem since its release and absolutely no issues.
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I am running the above now. I was on Darky 9.5, then upgraded yesterday to Ficeto JVB, Dark Core 2.2 and Darky's v10 RC6. Then flashed Dark Core 2.3.
I then flashed KC1 modem this morning.
Running great and loving the rom so far.. its a base rom, so not a lot of features in it but at least i can customize it to how i like it so far.
I've downloaded this file I9000UGKC1 ## 512.PIT 2.2 2011 March from samfirmwares I'm hoping it works out well for giving me the modem driver.
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Gingerbread 2.3.3: XWJVH from http://goo.gl/AEYzr to get a gingerbread release with a boot loader.
I will now look for a copy of odin hopefully it doesn't matter which version I get but I've noticed there is allot of fuzz when it comes to odin versions or even where to obtain it even. I want to obtain it from a legitimate source but it seems as though there is no specific location as to where to get it.
At some point I would like to try Cyanogen as everyone holds it in rather high regard though I'm not really sure what the benefits would be.
Some roms on here come with odin. You can also get it from samfirmware. The development thread is where you will find all information for each release. There's a few sources for cwm flashable modems. Odin isn't bad at all, it can be a little finicky with win 7 64 bit for some people but I have had no problems with it at all. Good luck and hope you find a rom that suits you.
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There isn't really anything specific for the i9000m. Really, its just a matter of picking a rom and following the flashing instructions. If you're flashing a stock release (like JVH lets say), use Odin, flash the tarball with update bootloader checked and once thats done, flash an appropriate modem for Bell (for 850mhz), like KC1 that I find works very well.
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Do you see much of a difference with the KC1 modem? Im running the JVO modem and it works fine for me usually have 3-4 bar connection, 3G tends to run quite often and get a 1Mbps down and 2 Mbps up connection, only thing I notice is that it runs on the 1900 band mostly
Any benefits to switching to KC1? Battery savings?
Do you see much of a difference with the KC1 modem? Im running the JVO modem and it works fine for me usually have 3-4 bar connection, 3G tends to run quite often and get a 1Mbps down and 2 Mbps up connection, only thing I notice is that it runs on the 1900 band mostly
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Turns out the
PDA: XWJVH
MODEM: XXJVO
CSC: NEEJV3 or XEEJV3 (Only difference between NEE and XEE is the CSC code)
Build Date: Wed May 4 18:03:59 KST 2011
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seems to work fine with working modem from http://goo.gl/02b7S
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there is no OpenVpn OR SIP and those are the two things that I really wanted out of gingerbread.
I personally found JL2 better than KC1. I get up to 5mb/s down and 3mb/s up.
About cyanogen, you gotta try it to see . I didn't believe the difference would be noticeable either...
If you want modems for cm7, click the JL2 modem link in my sig, there's a post full of them.
For modems for other roms, look over there : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876391
And just like everyone else said, you can flash i9000 roms on i9000m without any problems - in fact even flashing a different modem isn't necessary, depending on your provider, it's just better.
those are features commonly found within the custom roms for jvh
Thanks for this thread. Provided the modem for me to get this working properly.
If I were you I would stick with a Daryky rom. his 10 finaly is a little slow and glitchy at times so I recommend 10 RC6. it's a stock jvh rom with his tweeks. Cyanogen is basically vanilla rom. it's so fast (the best i've flashed so far) but it's missing swype, like you stated you wanted that. I tried getting the beta swype but it didn't work. anyways i'm actually liking the gingerbread keyboard haha. so ya, if you need swype stick with darky rom, if your looking to try an amazing rom try cyanogen.
The swype beta installed without any problems for me on cm7...
The only thing is I speak french, so either I get the english keyboard, or I get the "France" french one... which is AZERTY... u_U
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If I were you I would stick with a Daryky rom. his 10 finaly is a little slow and glitchy at times so I recommend 10 RC6. it's a stock jvh rom with his tweeks. Cyanogen is basically vanilla rom. it's so fast (the best i've flashed so far) but it's missing swype, like you stated you wanted that. I tried getting the beta swype but it didn't work.
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I used Darky's rom for a looong time before switching to something else. I really didn't like the theme (at the time), and I found roms that seemed to perform better. I also ran a deodexed JL2 that I cooked myself for a while.
You can get swipe APKs from just about any custom rom out there, just pull the apk out of the .zip and install it. Or, I just signed up for swipe beta and installed it - works great.
Anyway, I guess the bottom line is that there are so many options available, and so many fantastic cooked roms available in the development thread, that trying them and finding one you really like is the only way to go.
I bought my Captivate in December, and have since rooted, updated to Froyo through Kies, and even flashed a couple of kernels (currently running Firebird). I log onto and read posts on XDA almost daily, its kind of like my daily newspaper! Anyway, I have never understood how its possible that so many members have an i897 Captivate-based phone, yet is able to run i9000-based modems, kernels and ROMS. I've searched and googled, and can't get a straight answer, maybe my search terms need improvement, I don't know. But, is it possible to have
i9000 ROMS (with a i9000 modem/kernel of course) on our United States i897 Captivate? Or, is it that more members on this forum have i9000 based phones than I thought?
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I bought my Captivate in December, and have since rooted, updated to Froyo through Kies, and even flashed a couple of kernels (currently running Firebird). I log onto and read posts on XDA almost daily, its kind of like my daily newspaper! Anyway, I have never understood how its possible that so many members have an i897 Captivate-based phone, yet is able to run i9000-based modems, kernels and ROMS. I've searched and googled, and can't get a straight answer, maybe my search terms need improvement, I don't know. But, is it possible to have
i9000 ROMS (with a i9000 modem/kernel of course) on our United States i897 Captivate? Or, is it that more members on this forum have i9000 based phones than I thought?
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Im just taking a shot here, but i think its because our roms are based off the i9000 roms... (theyre not the same, but theyre in the same class...)
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i9000 ROMS (with a i9000 modem/kernel of course) on our United States i897 Captivate?
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Yes. If you flash a stock version of an i9000 ROM then you will have orientation and Home button issues though. That is why there are kernels in the Captivate development section that are based on i9000 source code and reoriented along with other tweaks. You should also take care to read and understand exactly what it is that you are doing before attempting to flash any ROM, especially one made for an extremely similar, yet different, phone.
As I've learned the hard way, make sure to stay in the captivate development section. There are plenty of I9000, roms to pick from that will work fine for your i897. Just make sure to either use the kernel with the rom or pick a reoriented one. Keep in mind there is some call quality loss with the i9000 roms. And most of all, be careful with bootloaders.
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Yes. If you flash a stock version of an i9000 ROM then you will have orientation and Home button issues though. That is why there are kernels in the Captivate development section that are based on i9000 source code and reoriented along with other tweaks. You should also take care to read and understand exactly what it is that you are doing before attempting to flash any ROM, especially one made for an extremely similar, yet different, phone.
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So, I can take my cappy as it is now (stock Froyo, Firebird kernel), and flash an i9000 ROM, making sure to also flash an i9000 modem and kernel (if the ROM doesn't already come with one), and that's it?
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As I've learned the hard way, make sure to stay in the captivate development section. There are plenty of I9000, roms to pick from that will work fine for your i897. Just make sure to either use the kernel with the rom or pick a reoriented one. Keep in mind there is some call quality loss with the i9000 roms. And most of all, be careful with bootloaders.
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Bootloaders, the one thing I haven't read up on yet. Think I'll read, read, read, and then read a little more after that. I forgot about the bootloaders. Thanks for the heads up Cdub3!
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Bootloaders, the one thing I haven't read up on yet. Think I'll read, read, read, and then read a little more after that. I forgot about the bootloaders. Thanks for the heads up Cdub3!
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u only need to get acquainted with bootloaders if you are planning to jump to a gingerbread ROM other than cyanogenmod7 or miui from 2.1/2.2 ROMs. GB bootloader+2.1/2.2 secondary bootloader=
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So, I can take my cappy as it is now (stock Froyo, Firebird kernel), and flash an i9000 ROM, making sure to also flash an i9000 modem and kernel (if the ROM doesn't already come with one), and that's it?
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it must be a REORIENTED kernel in order for it to work. in all honesty, i have found that its better to select any rom from the captivate section rather than using a straight i9000 rom from the i9000 forums. go ahead and try a few out, but you will quickly see why i would suggest getting one of the mature i9000 roms from the captivate section instead. references to front facing camera, lack of haptic feedback on the home key, and other little things will begin to creep up on you. it gets annoying.
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So, I can take my cappy as it is now (stock Froyo, Firebird kernel), and flash an i9000 ROM, making sure to also flash an i9000 modem and kernel (if the ROM doesn't already come with one), and that's it?
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You should flash the i9000 ROM and then flash a reoriented i9000 kernel from the Captivate development section and while the modem must be an i9000 modem when using an i9000 based ROM, you should research which modems support your carrier best. I'll assume you are on AT&T and say you need a modem that supports the 850MHz band if you want 3G support everywhere AT&T offers it when you travel inside the US. The standard i9000 modems support the 1900MHz band, which AT&T uses in my area. I'd suggest following the guides in the Captivate Development section though. Most ROMs there have done this work for you. They are almost all based on the official i9000 releases. There is nothing wrong with playing around after you understand the basics though. I run stock i9000 Gingerbread with the i9000 reoriented kernel by xcaliburinhand. Then I tailor it to my liking.