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Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks
aqm5181 said:
Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks
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if they are old games that could be the reason why, it doesn have support for GDI i think it is. have you tryed any emulators? GBA for example?
www.sunbug.net
Thanks for the speedy reply!
Pool Rebel is a new release but is still very sluggish. I have contacted their support team as it may just be that the game is not optimised for the cpu.
VT pocket tennis was designed for PPC2002! Used to work very well on my TYTN but is virtually unplayable on TYTN II.
Will I be able to use the emulator on games designed for PPC?
I'm not sure what is the problem, but I can comfirm that the graphic chipset integrated in MSM7200 is one of ATI Imageon product.
http://brew.qualcomm.com/bnry_brew/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
from the data sheet, the performance should be said as good, so perhaps the new graphic chipset is not supported?
Maybe HTC has disabled most of the Video chipset functionality, they have a habit of disabling everything before launch! *Shakes fist*
It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...
mmone3 said:
It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...
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Just imagine the Touchflo cube interface with D3D. Mmm.
wow, page 5, what game is that???
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
looks so cool for a ppc game!
I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??
Some benchmarks
TyTn 2 graphic is slower than HTC Mogul
http://mymobile911.com/dnn2/bBenchmarkDatab/tabid/60/Default.aspx
TyTn 2 graphic is the fastest
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=442869&sid=2ddc04dc6332d94bdbb0a5dc00627b54
ksjulsen said:
I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??
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this is not because it has poor graphics or has trouble playing it, it's cause PocketSnes hasnt been updated in such a long time it doesnt even support the phone completely or support teh GFX driver. however, have you tried Morphgear?
http://soft.softoogle.com/ap/morphgear-download-5321.shtml
Yeah, I tried pool rebel too ... and damn, it is so slow
Any reply from their support?
Btw, any good game for this Kaiser? The one that is nice and fast.
Support have replied. They will be adding Direct X support for the game in future release although have not specified when. That should hopefully improve performance. I have tried the following games and they work well:
Flux Challenge
Sky Force
Sky Force Reloaded
Resco Guardians
Anthelion 2
Argentum
Explode Arena
KRally
Snails
SPB AirIslands
Stolen In 60 Seconds
Cheers
Does anyone know of any good games for the x1?
Looking for them too, atm no games support 800x480 res
yes, that resolution is really a problem.
anyway, Vexed, which is one of my good old games, is still working fine with x1. and i found that many old games are still able to be ran in x1, but not those new ones.
Looking also...I wish that the Ants game was playable on the X1
im a little disapointed how i have only got 2 games installed on my x1 currently
Boxword wich is hard and addictive and worms which is great because its like any other version of worms which is awesome.
i'd really like to have some more good ones though
comeradealexi said:
im a little disapointed how i have only got 2 games installed on my x1 currently
Boxword wich is hard and addictive and worms which is great because its like any other version of worms which is awesome.
i'd really like to have some more good ones though
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What worms game? Tried Worms world party but it wouldn't run on my X1
A bunch of old games here...
I have these loaded and working:
Chesscapade
Death Drive
Empire of the Undead
KSE Backgammon
Madden NFL
Maggot Attack
Naughty Worm
Obama Bobble
Pocket Spades
Rats
Resco BrainGain
SlotCarRacer
Snails
Street Duel
Most of them run in 640x480 mode only either by leaving the bottom part of the screen untouched or after using VGAfix to switch resolution--but they do all work.
I see Spore was released by EA yesterday for the Xperia, (well it says its compatible). You can get it from the same site you get the Bejeweled registration code from:
http://store.handmark.com/p/7409/Games/Spore-for-Windows-Mobile-Pocket-PC/Sony-Ericcson-X1-(XPERIA)
I haven't bought it, but the PC version got some quite good reviews...
havent messed too much around but
miner
all mobile mines
works out of the box
vmodeswitch made nine hole golf 1.0
work
best path is just to try out normal games some scale some dont fill
the whole screen some crash
some works ok
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I see Spore was released by EA yesterday for the Xperia, (well it says its compatible). You can get it from the same site you get the Bejeweled registration code from:
http://store.handmark.com/p/7409/Games/Spore-for-Windows-Mobile-Pocket-PC/Sony-Ericcson-X1-(XPERIA)
I haven't bought it, but the PC version got some quite good reviews...
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yeah I was playing this on my old nokia. You'll get bored of it very quickly. very much like the PC version
any good arcade games that work with X1? especially shoot them all up kind of games?
"I haven't bought it, but the PC version got some quite good reviews..."
spore origins is not! the same game as the pc game called spore
sure it's from the same company and the pda games is a bit like the first
stage of the pc game
you can compare it with the spore origins for iphone/ipod touch
i would google some reviews of those before paying for the game
"any good arcade games that work with X1? especially shoot them all up kind of games?"
look for simulators like mame snes and c64 and the likes
and try out if the free duke nukeem3d, doom1/2, quake1/2/3, wolfenstein, heretic, hexen
fps games works with the resolution
buttom line == google for "pocketpc "+ the thing you want to find
PocketHumanity runs cool!
what about
pocket ufo? I didn't get around to trying it, but it works on other phones really well.
when the replacement x1 comes I will give it a go.
http://www.smksoftware.ru/index.php?page=105&lang=en
fards said:
what about
pocket ufo? I didn't get around to trying it, but it works on other phones really well.
when the replacement x1 comes I will give it a go.
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Didn't run on my X1, not even with vgafix.
i installed pocketdos and ran an old dos game called spelljammer it's a native x86 dos game so it's emulated but it ran like a char and pocketdos let me adjust the res to fill the screen nicely
Anyone got Quake 3 Arena working on the X1?
Games I have installed on my X1 are: -
Tomb Raider - Works perfectly but only in VGA, no fix required
Age of Empires Gold - Works perfectly but only in VGA, no fix required
Blobble Bubble Build (EXCELLENT!) - Works perfectly but only in VGA, no fix
Call of Duty 2 - Works perfectly but only in VGA, WVGA2 fix required
Duke Nukem 3D - Works perfectly but only in VGA, WVGA2 fix required
FPSECE - Works fine in WVGA but most games only run 15 - 20 fps
Picodrive (100% speed genesis emulator, the best!) - Works perfectly but only in VGA, WVGA2 fix required
Dopewars - Works perfectly in WVGA
My personal favourite is tomb raider, it looks amazing runs amazing and is one of the best games ever made (in my opinion)
Generally im finding that any game written by a large studio will work fine. It seems that most big commercial games (tomb raider age of empires etc) are written to handle bigger screen sizes and auto set themselves to vga. I've found that most smaller or less known games either require WVGA2 fix or dont work at all.
Keep the list coming I wanna see what else can run on this beast!
Scott Whitmore said:
Anyone got Quake 3 Arena working on the X1?
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why would anyone play first person shooters designed for the pc on a mobile phone...quake3 would be possible because its been done for other mobile phones, but expect 2-4fps and no way to really control the player.
Anyone knows where I can find bejewled for free????
Found the datasheet on MSM7200A, would be pleased if any of you guys check it and compare it to iPhone graphics chip
Xperia proccessor MSM7200A, with integrated graphics chip
iPhone graphics chip PowerVR MBX-Lite (Sorry no datasheet)
Since the most popular (because of its app store, games quantity) is iPhone,
And I must say iPhone games are really superb for a graphics aspect, imo best graphics in mobile phones/pda/smartphones field. (like Sims 3, NFS Undercover), I wonder if Xperia could do the same.
In GSM arena, I discovered that iPhone graphics chip is Powervr MBX-Lite (On iPhone & iPhone 3G), featuring OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.0, Direct3D and of course full 2D/3D support, which, compared MSM7200A integrated ATi accelaration, well, really Im not a Pro out here, so I've just found a Datasheet on this.
Not to tell about the WM gaming industry, which is ermm "....", but the fact, hope, that we could have this...
Now we have almost everything - itje, who dedicated very much to xda (his roms, other deeds are priceless) ((ofcourse his Touch-IT testing team, who not only answer touch-it related questions but is active like everyhwere)) other Rom and active app's/ xda contributors like gtrab, smaberg, jackleung,Tnyynt, fingerkeyboard makers, HTC encoder makers, other guys, fixing our phone bugs, creating soft for us,moderators... I could go on and on
naming these great people, who raised up our xperia from stock to almost perfection.
So only issue is...(for me ) gaming.
Heard that EA, gameloft are porting iPhone games to newer WM devices, but, I dont think that these sources are...well...realistic.
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Been looking in forums, web, to be precise, everywhere, even Xperia X1 White Paper, but Still havent got clarified answer on what Graphics chip does Xperia use. So I made several assumptions, by checking the information a little bit.
As common answer is Xperia uses ATI Imageon 2700, in Wikipedia there's no such chip number as "2700", also, Products with Imageon well, there's no xperia!
Imo, variants Xperia graphics chip is "Imageon 2388/2380" or "Imageon 2300" (If its even Imageon) , just need you guys to clarify this.
Just why I am making this thread - since Xperia is very versatile, like music/internet/messaging/videos with qwerty and etc. the only problem (for me), well, not as a problem, but as a shortage - gaming.
We have ScuMMM, sNes, sega, even PSX emu's, and maybe one game, who shows what Xperia is capable of - Xtrakt.
Since the most popular (because of its app store, games quantity) is iPhone,
And I must say iPhone games are really superb for a graphics aspect, imo best graphics in mobile phones/pda/smartphones field. (like Sims 3, NFS Undercover), I wonder if Xperia could do the same.
In GSM arena, I discovered that iPhone graphics chip is Powervr MBX-Lite (On iPhone & iPhone 3G), featuring OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.0, Direct3D and of course full 2D/3D support, which, compared to "Imageon 2388/2380", is "almost" equal (dunno about Direct3D, although I think its not supported by Imageon) , so if any of you would tell whats the Xperia graphics chip, we would clarify the fact that we "could" enjoy the iPhone graphics (^^)
Not to tell about the WM gaming industry, which is ermm "....", but the fact, hope, that we could have this...
Now we have almost everything - itje, who dedicated very much to xda (his roms, other deeds are priceless) ((ofcourse his Touch-IT testing team, who not only answer touch-it related questions but is active like everyhwere)) other Rom and active app's/ xda contributors like gtrab, smaberg, jackleung,Tnyynt, fingerkeyboard makers, HTC encoder makers, other guys, fixing our phone bugs, creating soft for us,moderators... I could go on and on
naming these great people, who raised up our xperia from stock to almost perfection.
So only issue is...(for me ) gaming.
Heard that EA, gameloft are porting iPhone games to newer WM devices, but, I dont think that these sources are...well...realistic.
My target is to clarify Xperia graphics potential, know full information about graphics chip
P.S. Yes I've searched xda/google for this like crazy. Sorry for this thread to go as a poem.
P.S.S. Yes Xperia is business class phone, but hey, why not to dream? It still has got one of the best HW on WM devices around.
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Could you maybe find out by taking the x1 apart and looking at all of the chips? I looked at some videos online but couldnt see the names on any chips - not sure if it would even say but it seems as if it could work - i looked around a bit too and i keep hearing about the Imageon 2300 but i cant confirm it sorry
the ati part is not a chip it's intergrated into the qualcomm cpu
http://www.google.dk/search?source=ig&hl=da&rlz=&q=MSM7200a+ati&btnG=Google-søgning&aq=f&oq=
more info
Well its not the 2300, here a quote from ati "Imageon 2300 integrates an advanced 2D and 3D graphics engine, MPEG-4 video decoder, JPEG encoding/decoding, and a 2 Mega pixel camera sub-system processing engine. With support for up to 2MB of ultra low-power SDRAM, it "
link:http://ati.amd.com/products/imageon2300/
since we have (being said) 128 mb shared ram and ive also read some where in some sheet that we have an tuned up gpu. (this is all speculative tho)
and why do the touch pro have 288 and we 256 ram? do we have a better gpu needing more ram ?
Updated the post, please check, now only we need guys to compare both phones graphics capability.
Chaosstorm said:
Well its not the 2300, here a quote from ati "Imageon 2300 integrates an advanced 2D and 3D graphics engine, MPEG-4 video decoder, JPEG encoding/decoding, and a 2 Mega pixel camera sub-system processing engine. With support for up to 2MB of ultra low-power SDRAM, it "
link:http://ati.amd.com/products/imageon2300/
since we have (being said) 128 mb shared ram and ive also read some where in some sheet that we have an tuned up gpu. (this is all speculative tho)
and why do the touch pro have 288 and we 256 ram? do we have a better gpu needing more ram ?
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Seems like SE/HTC made some kind of adjustment with these GPU on xperia's MSM7200A, wondering what, so your guessing might be right about better xperia's gpu, or its just that touch pro's all interface/oem/os modifications are more "hungry" for ram.
Just for curiosity, new released iPhone 3GS has PowerVR SGX535 graphics, also SE iDou has same chip from SGX family (530 one), so we can expect awesome graphics, chip's techinical capabilities are very big:
# next generation fully programmable universal scalable shader architecture
# exceeding requirements of OpenGL 2.0 and up to DirectX 10.1 Shader Model 4.1
Just that 3GS's chip will be better than iDou's (535 - 28MPolys/s , 530 - 14 MPolys/s)
soo..... where can we find an D3D drivers for X1i?
can anyone let me know what games actually work on these phones i have tried
gamesloft ones but they wonr run, any first person shooters games and racing ones that work or just put in what ever games you have got working plz
All games by Hexage (Buka, Totemo, Everlands, Radiant ect) run very well (they are all 2D). SpeedX 3D also runs fairly well, not super smooth but definitely playable.
fender1964 said:
can anyone let me know what games actually work on these phones i have tried
gamesloft ones but they wonr run, any first person shooters games and racing ones that work or just put in what ever games you have got working plz
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The "gpu" of magic is total crap, specially in stock android roms.
I have 3 3D games on my magic, 3D paper plane, Pool break and Speedx, they work pretty good, still they would lag a bit more on stock froyo, on sense 2.1 I get at least 5-6 fps more.
to OP, please search the forum first... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802221
To Serris.. are we to assume that the GPU changes with custom roms ;p
Hi,
I bought Real Football 2011 (not HD) and is not working on my Magic.
Instead, NFS Shift is working preety great, altought I can't drift.
So, if you know other games that can be bought and they work, write here.
The problem is that I saw that a lot of 2011 games are not working on Magic. If you played one that works let us know (do not link to any websites or warez).
Of course, Magic's GPU is bad ^^ . I think Magic cant play any 3d/HD game . Anyway, i played Zenonia 2 , Robo defense .
Yes, HD games arent for Magic. I bought FIFA 2010 and it works fine, only when are a lot of players in the box, it "slows down".
I assume you are using a mod, as otherwise I would say that anything that you can see on your phone in the market should certainly also be able to run on it.
But basically, anything that runs under OS 1.5 will work fine - Zenonia 2, Majesty, Hungry Shark, to name a few. I expect most 1.6 games would work well too - there's not much difference between the Hero and the Magic, hardware wise. Once you're into OS 2.0 games, though, you should be careful.
I use the official update, 2.2.1, and it works fine.
I want 3D games, like the ones I mentioned above, although it doesn't run very smooth.
Games like Speedx3d and Cut the rope runs good on the magic, try overlocking the cpu.