Hey there,
I have a Galaxy S I9000T outright from Telstra. I was so glad to find a Froyo/Android2.2 ROM on SamFirmware that supports Arabic very well (my native language, most ROMs don't support it well), and the upgrade also brought slightly better performance, etc..
However, since the I9000T model had only 8 GB internal SD, I also bought another 8GB SD to use as external (I don't save a lot of files saved on the phone, mostly browsing and tweeting and having few files playlist usually replaced quick).
Now, I notice the internal SD is something like 1.5+ GB used for phone storage and 5.5+ GB available to me to use. I no longer need that. Would love to increase the phone storage part to take up most if not all the internal SD storage (you know not all apps are available to move to external SD, plus it's annoying when I mount it to my computer for storage).
I know I won't be really removing it (to allow place for future use of update.zip) but at least make it as small as 1.x GB and give the rest space to phone storage.
Can I shrink the other internal SD partition (the one I can access without rooting) and increase the root phone storage without having to re-flash my happy already-configured ROM and losing any apps, etc... ?
Sorry guys, should this have been moved to a different section or so?
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now to start for reference i may use the following terms
internal storage
internal SD
external SD
please note the difference.
This is also referencing the "official android" apps2sd as well as the other ones i have looked at.
in case you dont know any of the apps to SD methods have 1 goal:
to remove apps from the internal memory to an SD card, allowing more apps to be installed on systems.
most android devices dont have an internal SD, because of this the external SD is the normal place to store Apps to the SD card.
This is also where it stores any extra downloaded files (in case of large games) or user accessible files for apps (docs, themes, game roms, backups, config files) on phones without internal SD.
(All those folders that show up on your internal SD on a captivate.)
Now.... the captivate HAS an internal SD.
As far as i am concerned this was only half implemented correct.
THEY DID CORRECTLY now have the app downloaded files, and user interactive files i mentioned above moved to the internal SD.
THEY DIDNT (IMO) move Apps2sd, to the internal SD where it would make more sense.
- having apps on the any SD causes lag at boot, made further worse on the captivate because it mounts the internal SD, and scans it before it mounts the external SD and scans it, and this is where the apps are!
- also if you remove your external SD, you loose the apps.
- the internal SD is WAY more than enough to "want" to have more apps on more cards...
- this would free up the external SD to be PRIMARILY AND EXCLUSIVELY user files.
and remove the last bit of android files that can be removed by taking out an sdcard...
- the internal SD is a class 6 speed, faster than most external SD cards that most inexperienced users end up using.. class 4 ebay/amazon crap.
can we change this???
i dont see any reason why not, we have all the necessary sources for what handles this.
im not exactly running out of internal storage but some users actually do, and this just seems to make more sense.
any update on this?
From what i know currently about android and our cappy's, heres the info.
1. 1.8 GB of "Internal Phone Storage" is plenty enough for (Apps, Data, Contacts, etc.) . I have 312 apps on my phone and i still have 896 MB left.
2. As far as i know, the "Internal" SD of the captivate is partitioned into system, data, and is also the internal sd that you can put files in. So if it really was a Class 6 , despite the horrifying write speeds, it would make no difference because the "Internal Phone Storage" is a partition of the built in 16 gb of internal sd.
Again, i know nothing about how our phone works, but this is the info i know.
I never come near filling the internal storage, so I would not need this for space saving. But, it would make my weekly ROM flash a lot easier to not even worry about those apps.
Apps2insternalsd is an app I would pay for ... and I am not one to buy apps, less than 5 in the past year.
Sent from my Captivate running Continuum 5.6
Yo XDA members,
i got a small problem and i liked if you helped me out please!
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Device: LG P990
Root: Yes
ROM; Stable 7.2 CM
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Problem: If i watch my internal storage, i see it splits i got a;
- internal storage; 1,5 gb / 1,25gb
- Extra storage: 5,5 gb / 5,5 gb ( .mnt/emmc )
how can i unsplit my internal sd card to just make it look like this: internal storage; 7gb - 6,75gb
I see also i can delete / ungear my ( /mnt/emmc ) but i think i wil loose it if i will do that.
i hope you can help me! thanks!:good:
it might be possible by using a partition layout similar to what phones that come with JB use, but I don't think its a good idea.
you would have to re-partition your internal storage which would wipe your user data, files on internal storage, and installed rom.
but there's a good chance any rom you install will have no idea how to handle that partition layout because they are built for the stock layout, and if it does work the gain in storage space is negligible.
so in short: more work than its worth.
it would be possible with some NVflash hacking, but the point is those 1.5 GB are the /data/ partition, where all your apps are installed, and the rest is the internal SD card where you can store music, pictures etc on.
It neither makes sense to allocate it all to internal storage (since you wouldnt have any space for apps) nor to allocate it all for apps, because you will never fill 7GB just with apps, sicne all the big data chunks are moved to the external SD card (or the internal SD card partition) anyway.
So unless you are running into some serious space problems, I suggest you keep everything as is
LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.
Actually, app are installed on the sdcard directly. The sdcard is actually the phone memory. Perhaps you want to install app on your micro sd card or the external_sd. You'll need Link 2 SD for that one. Moving apps to sdcard option was removed in ICS.
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
Agustus said:
LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.
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The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
psolord said:
The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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App2SD was introduced in Android 2.2 (FroYo). However, different developer solutions were already around at that time (a2sd+, link2sd etc.), but they required an ext3/ext4 partition, while the build-in app2sd would move them to a folder (.android-secure) on the FAT32 partition. The app2sd feature was eagerly awaited because of the limited storage devices had back then (the Nexus One had 512MB internal memory, of which 447 were usable and ~150 MB were used for /system). Now with bigger internal storage and the different internal structure which is used since ICS (and which is also the reason newer devices use MTP), moving apps to external SD is no longer officially supported. So you'll just have to use a developer's way again, in our case it's Directory Bind. I haven't used it yet since I still have some free space left, but it was reported to work properly. Afaik it just moves the files to external SD and then links the folders. Root should be required, but I don't know exactly. Personally i'd root nevertheless, as it gives you some advantages (Ti Backup, Ad-Free etc).
psolord said:
The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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Regarding OTG enable devices, I cannot understand why LG 4X doesn't support the OTG feature, it should be important to support it in order to make this smartphone a wonderful replacement of a computer (we may use external usb hard-disk or even external usb DVD/BR-writer).
Regarding internal/external sd card, if I use the command line "mount" inside a terminal, I see two lines including "/mnt/sdcard" and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" parameters. My question is: theoretically is it possible to swap the two a/m lines, so to mount "/mnt/sdcard" as external (the real external SD card) and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" as internal storage? If possible, how to do it? Root grants are enough to do it, or we need more to do it?
Hi
I have just jumped from iPhone to Samsung S5 and was wondering if there is a simple way to swap the internal memory with an external SD card? I have an android gaming tablet with a custom rom which does this automatically, making the OS install, download and do everything onto the external card.
I saw a post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377628 which talks about modding a system file will that do what i want? currently after installing TomTom and several map packs i now only have a few GB left of 16
Ps.. I have done the SDFix already to enable writing to the SD but TomTom requires the maps to be in the Root folder so you cant " move to SD " it only moves the program. I have S5 with KitKat 4.4.2 i believe.
Anyhelp apreciated.
82 views and no reply, is it because it can no longer be done?
I'm by no means an expert, but KitKat has severely limited this capability, apparently.
I'm betting that you would need a custom boot-loader in order to fully host the OS form the SD card.
Depending upon which specific S5 variant you have you'll have different options to mitigate this. Some of the big USA carriers (notably AT&T) are shipping with locked boot-loaders, which prevents fully customizing the ROM / OS load. From what I gather, but have not attempted, not even SafeStrap is currently capable of retargeting the system to the SD card.
Depending on the app, you may be able to (on a rooted phone) make a soft-link on the filesystem and redirect that application's data to the SD card. I'd think that the more safe way to go, but again I have not tried it.
Keep in mind, also, that hosting the OS from the SD card would likely impact performance heavily. In my testing the internal flash memory has at least 2x to 3x the performance of the fastest microSD I could find to test with, and more like 10x the speed of a cheap SD card (my phone is the US AT&T variant). This has huge ramifications for much-accessed / randomly-accessed content, and by derivation probably impacts how well the phone feels in operation.
I see, i thought it would be easy like my gaming tablet, the 'system' still runs on the devices internal memory but the 'storage' runs from the SDCard.
My phone is a UK/ EU model and is not locked to any provider as bought outright. Is it possible to flash it with a stock rom that does allow the swapping of the SD, one slightly older than 4.4.2 which it is currently on?
I filled up the small 16gb within 2 hours of having the phone so having external memory is a must really. TomTom is taking up alot of the room and i dont think you can move the DATA to the SD card as it reads from root of device.
any help appreciated.
Any update in this?
I don't know whether this question has already been asked here but since I'm a newbie and this Droid 4 is my only Android phone (all others are Windows Phones), I'd like to ask this one:
I performed the partition of my phone's memory and split it 50/50 so that I could boot into the stock ROM if something would go wrong with CM11 updates. Not the wisest move since I'm not using that stock ROM at all
OK, the memory of my phone (where I'm running CM11) is running out so therefore I'd need to know:
1) Is there a way to modify the partition afterwards without losing any information from the memory of my phone?
2) Is there a way to move apps from phone's internal memory and SD card (a.k.a. sd card 0) to an external SD card (a.k.a. sd card 1)? I have 64Gb micro SD where I could move lots of stuff if I'd only know how.
And my apologies if this question has already been asked here.
try foldermount from playstore...
I'm fully aware of that app but it's not free.
Any other choices???
well i can only recommend Foldermount since im using it myself and the basic features are free and satisfy my needs fully.
but hey, the full version costs only ~2 dollars or so...