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Apps2sd - internal sd? why the hell not?

now to start for reference i may use the following terms
internal storage
internal SD
external SD
please note the difference.
This is also referencing the "official android" apps2sd as well as the other ones i have looked at.
in case you dont know any of the apps to SD methods have 1 goal:
to remove apps from the internal memory to an SD card, allowing more apps to be installed on systems.
most android devices dont have an internal SD, because of this the external SD is the normal place to store Apps to the SD card.
This is also where it stores any extra downloaded files (in case of large games) or user accessible files for apps (docs, themes, game roms, backups, config files) on phones without internal SD.
(All those folders that show up on your internal SD on a captivate.)
Now.... the captivate HAS an internal SD.
As far as i am concerned this was only half implemented correct.
THEY DID CORRECTLY now have the app downloaded files, and user interactive files i mentioned above moved to the internal SD.
THEY DIDNT (IMO) move Apps2sd, to the internal SD where it would make more sense.
- having apps on the any SD causes lag at boot, made further worse on the captivate because it mounts the internal SD, and scans it before it mounts the external SD and scans it, and this is where the apps are!
- also if you remove your external SD, you loose the apps.
- the internal SD is WAY more than enough to "want" to have more apps on more cards...
- this would free up the external SD to be PRIMARILY AND EXCLUSIVELY user files.
and remove the last bit of android files that can be removed by taking out an sdcard...
- the internal SD is a class 6 speed, faster than most external SD cards that most inexperienced users end up using.. class 4 ebay/amazon crap.
can we change this???
i dont see any reason why not, we have all the necessary sources for what handles this.
im not exactly running out of internal storage but some users actually do, and this just seems to make more sense.

any update on this?

From what i know currently about android and our cappy's, heres the info.
1. 1.8 GB of "Internal Phone Storage" is plenty enough for (Apps, Data, Contacts, etc.) . I have 312 apps on my phone and i still have 896 MB left.
2. As far as i know, the "Internal" SD of the captivate is partitioned into system, data, and is also the internal sd that you can put files in. So if it really was a Class 6 , despite the horrifying write speeds, it would make no difference because the "Internal Phone Storage" is a partition of the built in 16 gb of internal sd.
Again, i know nothing about how our phone works, but this is the info i know.

I never come near filling the internal storage, so I would not need this for space saving. But, it would make my weekly ROM flash a lot easier to not even worry about those apps.
Apps2insternalsd is an app I would pay for ... and I am not one to buy apps, less than 5 in the past year.
Sent from my Captivate running Continuum 5.6

[Q] Moving apps to SD card - Question re Overcome ROM

Hi
I have a Galaxy Tab running the Overcome Rom v1.6.0
Under Settings / Applications / Manage Applications it is possible to move apps to the SD card. My questions (noob) are:
1 - is it ok to move all apps the SD card?
2- is it possible to move all the apps in one go and not have do it one by one?

Happy_Go_Lucky said:
Hi
I have a Galaxy Tab running the Overcome Rom v1.6.0
Under Settings / Applications / Manage Applications it is possible to move apps to the SD card. My questions (noob) are:
1 - is it ok to move all apps the SD card?
2- is it possible to move all the apps in one go and not have do it one by one?
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All your apps will be installed to the 2GB partition on the internal SD card. No real need to move them to other partition or to an external card. This may be needed on other devices that do not have a internal SD card or ones that have a small nand chip etc but not really needed on the Tab.
Unless you have one of teh tabs that didnt come with 16GB of internal memory, then ofcourse nothing I said applies.

Would it make a difference in terms of speed / performance if I kept all 3rd party apps on the external sd card. The tab is 16gb.

Happy_Go_Lucky said:
Would it make a difference in terms of speed / performance if I kept all 3rd party apps on the external sd card. The tab is 16gb.
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Not really no. They are both SD cards. Remember the tab has a 16GB sd card installed internally, hidden under the casing, its not like phones where they have onboard memory in nand, with exception to windows phones, they too also have internal SD cards.
I suppose it depends on what brand/class they are. I'm sure somebody more technically minded about this particular subject will be able to answer better.
I personally keep all my files like apk's and documents etc on my external and reserve my internal for installed data, music, videos etc.

My situation is I have 8GB space on the internal. My music file which I am about to Sync is 8.5GB. I was looking at also putting my music on the external sd. Is there a quality difference (you have yours on the internal).
Also (hope you can help me on this one). When using Kies you have the option to add your music files to the Kies Library. Is\this simply going to copy my entire music library (8gb) to a new samsung folder on the pc and hence duplicate my music + waste space? Or am I missing something?

[Q] USB storage?

Hey, what's up? I bought my new Galaxy Note yesterday, and there are some things I don't understand. One of the first apps I installed was App2SD. The Note didn't came with an SD (today I bought one), but something appeared as SD Card. When in I entered to the app, I saw something very interesting. It said that the System storage was 2GB (??!?) and the SD (it didn't had any SD) was 11GB. Today I installed the SD (real) and the app still the SD was 11GB!!! I downloaded MI file explorer, to see better the storage and install some apps I moved to the SD, and when I entered to SD tab, there were folders of Camera, Downloads.. but I couldn't find any of my apps. Then I find the folder "external_sd" and I opened it. Yes, all the apks I moved to the SD were there. So, I thought , lets see the storage tab in Task manager menu. There appeared 3 things: the SD card (8gb), the system storage (2gb) and the USB storage (11gb). So, I realized that all downloads and photos were saving in the USB storage (that is part of the System storage I think). I could change where does the photos save, but no the downloads and apps. They are still saving in that USB storage. And something it was very strange: when I move to SD some apps (Zen Bound 2, 200MB) it appears in the SD but really small (200MB to 20MB) So, the questions are:
1. Can I change that the apps don't install in that USB storage?
2. Can I turn off that USB storage?
3. Why when I enter in Settings and I move an app to the SD, in app2sd appears like it was moved to the USB storage? Or it moved to the real SD?
4. Why the size of the apps change?
Thanks really
alancito10t

alancito10t said:
Hey, what's up? I bought my new Galaxy Note yesterday, and there are some things I don't understand. One of the first apps I installed was App2SD. The Note didn't came with an SD (today I bought one), but something appeared as SD Card. When in I entered to the app, I saw something very interesting. It said that the System storage was 2GB (??!?) and the SD (it didn't had any SD) was 11GB. Today I installed the SD (real) and the app still the SD was 11GB!!! I downloaded MI file explorer, to see better the storage and install some apps I moved to the SD, and when I entered to SD tab, there were folders of Camera, Downloads.. but I couldn't find any of my apps. Then I find the folder "external_sd" and I opened it. Yes, all the apks I moved to the SD were there. So, I thought , lets see the storage tab in Task manager menu. There appeared 3 things: the SD card (8gb), the system storage (2gb) and the USB storage (11gb). So, I realized that all downloads and photos were saving in the USB storage (that is part of the System storage I think). I could change where does the photos save, but no the downloads and apps. They are still saving in that USB storage. And something it was very strange: when I move to SD some apps (Zen Bound 2, 200MB) it appears in the SD but really small (200MB to 20MB) So, the questions are:
1. Can I change that the apps don't install in that USB storage?
2. Can I turn off that USB storage?
3. Why when I enter in Settings and I move an app to the SD, in app2sd appears like it was moved to the USB storage? Or it moved to the real SD?
4. Why the size of the apps change?
Thanks really
alancito10t
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Ok, that was a lot to read Ok, as far as Galaxy Note's Memory management is considered, the partition is as:
A. 2GB (1.97GB Precisely) : Acts as ROM
B. 11GB (11.07GB Precisely) : Acts as Internal SD Card
C. X GB (the memory card which you insert) : Acts as External SD Card
So, In A there are built in apps which comes with the ROM you flash.
In B There are apps which you install. The install Location is defined to be in B in your phone by default.
In C You can move the apps using some app such as App2SD or Android Assistant (which I prefer)
If you are concerned with big apps clogging your memory, read ahead:
You can allow your application to install on the device's external storage.
Some types of applications should not allow installation on the external storage.
Installing on the external storage is ideal for large applications that are not tightly integrated with the system (most commonly, games).
If you want to know how to do it, then reply back or PM me. I shall post here.
Hope this helps to clear some basic idea about memory.

[Q] Is it necessary to move apps to external sd card?

Since the phone in its smallest version only has 8 GB of storage, would it be possible to use the external SD-Card for apps without a problem? I know this could be a frustrating task on older phones. What happens, when the internal SD-Card is full but there is plenty of storage left on the external (micro) SD-Card?

Lownita said:
Since the phone in its smallest version only has 8 GB of storage, would it be possible to use the external SD-Card for apps without a problem? I know this could be a frustrating task on older phones. What happens, when the internal SD-Card is full but there is plenty of storage left on the external (micro) SD-Card?
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Depending on the overall size of your apps, you may need to move them to your external sd card. Most apps support this, but some do not.
I try to avoid putting apps on the external sd and instead save my media there so I don't use up the internal storage.
To move the apps, just go settings, applications, select the app, and click move to SD

honor 4x insufficient storage

I bought a used honor 4x phone emui 4, updated , after enter my gmail account updated apps and I got 345mb in internal storage I heard about adopted sd system , can I use it with emui 4 ,my phone non rooted

jana1991 said:
I bought a used honor 4x phone emui 4, updated , after enter my gmail account updated apps and I got 345mb in internal storage I heard about adopted sd system , can I use it with emui 4 ,my phone non rooted
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Yes, you can use it. The short answer is that adopted storage is not an optimal solution, but it can work just fine if you set it up the right way. Which Honor 4x variant do you have, btw? What I write now is valid for the Che2-L11.
Many people think that adopted storage is the same as mounting an extra partition which Android will then use in the most rational way. This is not correct. Developers of Android decided to not use the card for essential files, so when you add adopted storage, Android will still install some parts of each app on your internal storage. Also, some developers of apps have not made their apps ready for adopted storage, and they will install on internal.
For this reason, your internal storage will continue to be filled up with new files even after you have added adopted storage, and might approach 100%, so your phone will tell you there is no more space left for installing new apps. All the while your card still has plenty of space.
But don't worry, you can avoid such a scenario if you do prepare your phone a little.
To get the best possible result, I recommend that you wipe your phone and do a fresh install of EMUI. You need to unlock the bootloader, set the USB developer option, install TWRP, and then flash the firmware the normal way. (This is quite complicated procedure, you should study how to do this yourself.) After that, put an SD card into the phone, and it should be a card that doesn't contain anything important so you can format it. Follow the instructions for adopted storage, which will format your SD card. EMUI will have problems if you use all 100% of the card as adopted, so choose the option mixed 50. The SD card must be minimum class 10 speed for apps to work normally.
Then you should root your phone, and install Root Essentials. Then set the option for "install apps on SD card". After that, your phone will try to install all new apps on the SD card on the adopted storage. You will probably be using around 75% of your internal storage, and might reach 85%, but you can continue adding a lot of apps before you get a problem. I have installed 30+ apps and am using 82% of internal storage. Good luck. :good:

jana1991 said:
I bought a used honor 4x phone emui 4, updated , after enter my gmail account updated apps and I got 345mb in internal storage I heard about adopted sd system , can I use it with emui 4 ,my phone non rooted
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To answer your question, EMUI doesn't support adaptable storage out of the box.

Bob1900 said:
Yes, you can use it. The short answer is that adopted storage is not an optimal solution, but it can work just fine if you set it up the right way. Which Honor 4x variant do you have, btw? What I write now is valid for the Che2-L11.
Many people think that adopted storage is the same as mounting an extra partition which Android will then use in the most rational way. This is not correct. Developers of Android decided to not use the card for essential files, so when you add adopted storage, Android will still install some parts of each app on your internal storage. Also, some developers of apps have not made their apps ready for adopted storage, and they will install on internal.
For this reason, your internal storage will continue to be filled up with new files even after you have added adopted storage, and might approach 100%, so your phone will tell you there is no more space left for installing new apps. All the while your card still has plenty of space.
But don't worry, you can avoid such a scenario if you do prepare your phone a little.
To get the best possible result, I recommend that you wipe your phone and do a fresh install of EMUI. You need to unlock the bootloader, set the USB developer option, install TWRP, and then flash the firmware the normal way. (This is quite complicated procedure, you should study how to do this yourself.) After that, put an SD card into the phone, and it should be a card that doesn't contain anything important so you can format it. Follow the instructions for adopted storage, which will format your SD card. EMUI will have problems if you use all 100% of the card as adopted, so choose the option mixed 50. The SD card must be minimum class 10 speed for apps to work normally.
Then you should root your phone, and install Root Essentials. Then set the option for "install apps on SD card". After that, your phone will try to install all new apps on the SD card on the adopted storage. You will probably be using around 75% of your internal storage, and might reach 85%, but you can continue adding a lot of apps before you get a problem. I have installed 30+ apps and am using 82% of internal storage. Good luck. :good:
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Thank you

Thanks all
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Adopted Storage? Nope.
Do you even checked the Settings > Storage menu? You can pick either use internal (its small) or the microsd (Im maxed out at 128gb, anybody tried 256gb?)
Or get root, and use Apps2SD. Keep going and install as many apks as you want.

U can try adopted storage . Check if this feature is available in storage menu