I bought a used honor 4x phone emui 4, updated , after enter my gmail account updated apps and I got 345mb in internal storage I heard about adopted sd system , can I use it with emui 4 ,my phone non rooted
jana1991 said:
I bought a used honor 4x phone emui 4, updated , after enter my gmail account updated apps and I got 345mb in internal storage I heard about adopted sd system , can I use it with emui 4 ,my phone non rooted
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Yes, you can use it. The short answer is that adopted storage is not an optimal solution, but it can work just fine if you set it up the right way. Which Honor 4x variant do you have, btw? What I write now is valid for the Che2-L11.
Many people think that adopted storage is the same as mounting an extra partition which Android will then use in the most rational way. This is not correct. Developers of Android decided to not use the card for essential files, so when you add adopted storage, Android will still install some parts of each app on your internal storage. Also, some developers of apps have not made their apps ready for adopted storage, and they will install on internal.
For this reason, your internal storage will continue to be filled up with new files even after you have added adopted storage, and might approach 100%, so your phone will tell you there is no more space left for installing new apps. All the while your card still has plenty of space.
But don't worry, you can avoid such a scenario if you do prepare your phone a little.
To get the best possible result, I recommend that you wipe your phone and do a fresh install of EMUI. You need to unlock the bootloader, set the USB developer option, install TWRP, and then flash the firmware the normal way. (This is quite complicated procedure, you should study how to do this yourself.) After that, put an SD card into the phone, and it should be a card that doesn't contain anything important so you can format it. Follow the instructions for adopted storage, which will format your SD card. EMUI will have problems if you use all 100% of the card as adopted, so choose the option mixed 50. The SD card must be minimum class 10 speed for apps to work normally.
Then you should root your phone, and install Root Essentials. Then set the option for "install apps on SD card". After that, your phone will try to install all new apps on the SD card on the adopted storage. You will probably be using around 75% of your internal storage, and might reach 85%, but you can continue adding a lot of apps before you get a problem. I have installed 30+ apps and am using 82% of internal storage. Good luck. :good:
jana1991 said:
I bought a used honor 4x phone emui 4, updated , after enter my gmail account updated apps and I got 345mb in internal storage I heard about adopted sd system , can I use it with emui 4 ,my phone non rooted
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To answer your question, EMUI doesn't support adaptable storage out of the box.
Bob1900 said:
Yes, you can use it. The short answer is that adopted storage is not an optimal solution, but it can work just fine if you set it up the right way. Which Honor 4x variant do you have, btw? What I write now is valid for the Che2-L11.
Many people think that adopted storage is the same as mounting an extra partition which Android will then use in the most rational way. This is not correct. Developers of Android decided to not use the card for essential files, so when you add adopted storage, Android will still install some parts of each app on your internal storage. Also, some developers of apps have not made their apps ready for adopted storage, and they will install on internal.
For this reason, your internal storage will continue to be filled up with new files even after you have added adopted storage, and might approach 100%, so your phone will tell you there is no more space left for installing new apps. All the while your card still has plenty of space.
But don't worry, you can avoid such a scenario if you do prepare your phone a little.
To get the best possible result, I recommend that you wipe your phone and do a fresh install of EMUI. You need to unlock the bootloader, set the USB developer option, install TWRP, and then flash the firmware the normal way. (This is quite complicated procedure, you should study how to do this yourself.) After that, put an SD card into the phone, and it should be a card that doesn't contain anything important so you can format it. Follow the instructions for adopted storage, which will format your SD card. EMUI will have problems if you use all 100% of the card as adopted, so choose the option mixed 50. The SD card must be minimum class 10 speed for apps to work normally.
Then you should root your phone, and install Root Essentials. Then set the option for "install apps on SD card". After that, your phone will try to install all new apps on the SD card on the adopted storage. You will probably be using around 75% of your internal storage, and might reach 85%, but you can continue adding a lot of apps before you get a problem. I have installed 30+ apps and am using 82% of internal storage. Good luck. :good:
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Thank you
Thanks all
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Adopted Storage? Nope.
Do you even checked the Settings > Storage menu? You can pick either use internal (its small) or the microsd (Im maxed out at 128gb, anybody tried 256gb?)
Or get root, and use Apps2SD. Keep going and install as many apks as you want.
U can try adopted storage . Check if this feature is available in storage menu
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LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.
Actually, app are installed on the sdcard directly. The sdcard is actually the phone memory. Perhaps you want to install app on your micro sd card or the external_sd. You'll need Link 2 SD for that one. Moving apps to sdcard option was removed in ICS.
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
Agustus said:
LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.
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The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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App2SD was introduced in Android 2.2 (FroYo). However, different developer solutions were already around at that time (a2sd+, link2sd etc.), but they required an ext3/ext4 partition, while the build-in app2sd would move them to a folder (.android-secure) on the FAT32 partition. The app2sd feature was eagerly awaited because of the limited storage devices had back then (the Nexus One had 512MB internal memory, of which 447 were usable and ~150 MB were used for /system). Now with bigger internal storage and the different internal structure which is used since ICS (and which is also the reason newer devices use MTP), moving apps to external SD is no longer officially supported. So you'll just have to use a developer's way again, in our case it's Directory Bind. I haven't used it yet since I still have some free space left, but it was reported to work properly. Afaik it just moves the files to external SD and then links the folders. Root should be required, but I don't know exactly. Personally i'd root nevertheless, as it gives you some advantages (Ti Backup, Ad-Free etc).
psolord said:
The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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Regarding OTG enable devices, I cannot understand why LG 4X doesn't support the OTG feature, it should be important to support it in order to make this smartphone a wonderful replacement of a computer (we may use external usb hard-disk or even external usb DVD/BR-writer).
Regarding internal/external sd card, if I use the command line "mount" inside a terminal, I see two lines including "/mnt/sdcard" and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" parameters. My question is: theoretically is it possible to swap the two a/m lines, so to mount "/mnt/sdcard" as external (the real external SD card) and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" as internal storage? If possible, how to do it? Root grants are enough to do it, or we need more to do it?
While using "Adopt SD as Internal Storage" in Marshmallow , Camera app is not working as it is searching for SD Card. Any solution ?
Works perfect for on Sparkle V running Marshmallow
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Works perfect for on Sparkle V running Marshmallow
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Are you using SD Card as Internal Storage ?
arunmcops said:
Are you using SD Card as Internal Storage ?
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I wish to point out some more observations:
1. You'll get a hell long time reboot if you've made your ext_SD to be used as Internal Storage.
2. Applications could crash more often resulting in freeze and auto reboot.
3. Atleast in my case Camera worked perfectly but FCs on other applications made me move back to use ext_SD as intended and NOT Internal Storage.
4. Also it messed up the MTP.
5. Lastly but the most important one: It's virtually impossible to go back to "use ext_SD as intended" from the Android itself AND formatting the card from Windows/Mac OS/Linux is messed up since the ext_SD will show its capacity as 30MB in case of a 4GB or 11.2MB in case of 2GB.
To correct this and regain it's lost capacity, I had to download the formating tool from this website (SD Association) since default formating tools preloaded on OSes will not work: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/ and format using the software.
This is just my hypothesis after flashing stock at least 20+ times and doing all the trial and error.
Based on the hypothesis, further I wish to conclude, ext_SD as Internal Storage on Marshmallow is way too buggy atleast on Android One.
EDIT: I'm dong some more trial errors on different TWRPs as 2.8.6.0 treats ext_SD as ext_SD while 2.8.7.0 treats it as a normal SD.
SuperSu Beta 2.52 is confirmed to cause bootloops.
It seems u have not formatted ur sd card properly to use it as internal storage. It happened with me also. I would suggest u to format it as portable and then again format and use as internal storage.
While formatting as internal it will be stuck at 20% for long time, so don't minimize the screen let it get complete to 100%. Afterwards u will get message that it can now be used as internal storage. Now u can use camera app as intended.
For those who are experiencing random reboots, i would suggest them to use class 10 sdcard.
After shenanigans yesterday I've pretty much got my Moto G 2014 LTE running on Marshmallow.
\the problem I have now is one I've experienced a number of times before, on various devices and Android versions:
Why is it that, despite the storage screen showing that I have plenty of available space, am I not unable to install some larger apps?
Settings > Storage shows internal storage 1.15GB used of 5.52GB (as well as SanDisk SD card 890MB used of 14.59GB)
But when I try to install Injustice: Gods Among Us (1.12GB) i get the error message App requires external storage: "Injustice: Gods Among Us" can't be downloaded. Insert an SD card or USB storage with sufficient storage, and try again.
This app was installed prior to upgrading the OS, and while quite large, should still fit on to my device.
Can anyone tell me what causes this, what I can do to get round it, and also, if there is a way to make the OS see the SD card as part of the internal memory so I can install apps directly to it
On Marshmallow, it is possible to use external SD card as internal but don't do it.
Why ? Because you have a too small SD card. This option doesn't merge internal and external, it just sets the external as internal. So you need a 8gb or more SD card (or you will get less storage than before)
Maybe the play store doesn't want to install because your SD Card doesn't have enough space to install the game. I know it is weird, but sometimes even if you want to install to internal, it checks the SD card's available memory.
You can try to wipe the play store cache and data, and if it doesn't work do a wipe cache from recovery.
Try getting the apk file by google'ing it. Install it. Open it then check if it is downloading files or not.
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Mavireck said:
On Marshmallow, it is possible to use external SD card as internal but don't do it.
Why ? Because you have a too small SD card. This option doesn't merge internal and external, it just sets the external as internal. So you need a 8gb or more SD card (or you will get less storage than before)
Maybe the play store doesn't want to install because your SD Card doesn't have enough space to install the game. I know it is weird, but sometimes even if you want to install to internal, it checks the SD card's available memory.
You can try to wipe the play store cache and data, and if it doesn't work do a wipe cache from recovery.
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Sorry that should have read 14.59Gb for the SD card, so loads of space
Mavireck said:
On Marshmallow, it is possible to use external SD card as internal but don't do it.
Why ? Because you have a too small SD card. This option doesn't merge internal and external, it just sets the external as internal. So you need a 8gb or more SD card (or you will get less storage than before)
Maybe the play store doesn't want to install because your SD Card doesn't have enough space to install the game. I know it is weird, but sometimes even if you want to install to internal, it checks the SD card's available memory.
You can try to wipe the play store cache and data, and if it doesn't work do a wipe cache from recovery.
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Tried to download the apk and it just days no SD card. I know its there, still shows up in settings and shows apps installed on it. Must be a dodgy card or something, but now i cant work out how to tell the phone to stop using it for apps and install internally unsteady (told it to use it as internal when I did set up, not sure how to go back)
EDIT: OK worked out how to get it to stop using the SD as internal and formatted it for data, and seems to be installing the game now. So I think that pretty much solves my immediate query, but still interested as to why android sometimes says insufficient space despite it reporting in settings that there is plenty
KeransHQ said:
Tried to download the apk and it just days no SD card. I know its there, still shows up in settings and shows apps installed on it. Must be a dodgy card or something, but now i cant work out how to tell the phone to stop using it for apps and install internally unsteady (told it to use it as internal when I did set up, not sure how to go back)
EDIT: OK worked out how to get it to stop using the SD as internal and formatted it for data, and seems to be installing the game now. So I think that pretty much solves my immediate query, but still interested as to why android sometimes says insufficient space despite it reporting in settings that there is plenty
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Yeah sorry for my mistake I have read 1.xxgb instead of 14.xxgb
Android reports the storage to be full as soon as XX% of the storage is filled (maybe 90%, I'm not sure). Then if you have a 100gb device, even if you have 10gb free it won't allow you to do anything.
That's weird, but that's how it works.
Have you tried wiping cache ? It sometimes solves the problem.
It is better not to use the format as internal storage except if you really know what you are doing.
I looked for topics but couldnot see anything about this.
I have 32 gb sd card. Despite i moved some apps, phone memory is full now. i cant install anything. i cleared cache but still no place.
I think there are 2 choices, make sd card as internal or divide some part of sd card as internal.
OR are there any ways?
I did not install anything since i bought this phone. no root no upgrade no cwm.
Any help?
See attached file for reference. Uninstall bloatwares if you're rooted. supersu preferred. I opted to use SD Card as my default write disk together with Link2Sd Plus. Linked all my games to my SD. I am enjoying this phone setup at the moment.
What are the steps, i cant understnd.
Hi,
I think about formatting my SD card as internal storage as the internal storage is really low on the L90.
Has someone tried this option and can share his experiences?
Will the device slowed down by the (Class 10) SD Card which is probably slower than the internal storage?
Any problems when updating the system or any other issues?
I didn't try it recently. But in my experience you are better off expanding you internal storage to 5GB, and using a program like FolderMount to move some apps to the SD Card.
And yes, a (Class 10) SD card is highly recommended.
XiCO FiR3 said:
expanding you internal storage to 5GB
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What do you mean by expanding the internal storage to 5GB
topaza said:
What do you mean by expanding the internal storage to 5GB
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2946323
Read carefully. I found another mod online that allows to expand the internal storage and keep the 2GB on the system partition.
You need to search.
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I tried it, but it always lead to some kind of read error with the SD card followed by a series of crashes.
Which ROM are you using? Try with a different Twrp version. Probably version 2.8.7.0
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topaza said:
Hi,
I think about formatting my SD card as internal storage as the internal storage is really low on the L90.
Has someone tried this option and can share his experiences?
Will the device slowed down by the (Class 10) SD Card which is probably slower than the internal storage?
Any problems when updating the system or any other issues?
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Yes, the internal data partition is really small for L90, so it's almost impossible to survive without workarounds lor these device.
I've already tried the following:
1-) Using SD card class 10 LineageOS/Android 7.1.2, sdcard as adoptable (sdcard used as internal memory, native android resource):
I used this for sometime (months). At first everything worked flawless, I have *not* noticed performance issues.
only thing is that my sdcard stopped working and I lost some data after some months.
I have a suspicious that my sdcard could be of low quality, i'm considering to try this option again.
The main drawback of this choice is that the sdcard content is encrypted, so if you update system flashing I'm not sure data is kept or not, also you cannot recover content of sdcard by plugging it in your PC.
2-) Sandisk SDCard class 4 LineageOS/Android 7.1.2 + App2SD. (used Link2SD in older android versions)
I'm currently using this option. I'm linking some apps to a second partition (ext4) in my sdcard.
To avoid performance issues I choose apps that I use less or which does not run in background.
In android 7.1.2 I've to use App2SD as link2sd does not work properly.
Almost all apps that I use are working as expected, however, every time I update a linked app I'm facing issues.
Have to disable auto-link option in app2sd, so after update I have to link the manually app again.
I'm also curious about the workarounds people are using to overcome this low data size.
leoakch said:
Yes, the internal data partition is really small for L90, so it's almost impossible to survive without workarounds lor these device.
I've already tried the following:
1-) Using SD card class 10 LineageOS/Android 7.1.2, sdcard as adoptable (sdcard used as internal memory, native android resource):
I used this for sometime (months). At first everything worked flawless, I have *not* noticed performance issues.
only thing is that my sdcard stopped working and I lost some data after some months.
I have a suspicious that my sdcard could be of low quality, i'm considering to try this option again.
The main drawback of this choice is that the sdcard content is encrypted, so if you update system flashing I'm not sure data is kept or not, also you cannot recover content of sdcard by plugging it in your PC.
2-) Sandisk SDCard class 4 LineageOS/Android 7.1.2 + App2SD. (used Link2SD in older android versions)
I'm currently using this option. I'm linking some apps to a second partition (ext4) in my sdcard.
To avoid performance issues I choose apps that I use less or which does not run in background.
In android 7.1.2 I've to use App2SD as link2sd does not work properly.
Almost all apps that I use are working as expected, however, every time I update a linked app I'm facing issues.
Have to disable auto-link option in app2sd, so after update I have to link the manually app again.
I'm also curious about the workarounds people are using to overcome this low data size.
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I'm using Lineage 15.1 on my Samsung J5. Recently I've adopted my Transcend SDHC 16GB Class 10 SD card as internal due to low internal storage. I have noticed that sometimes when my phone stays at idle for like 10/15minutes it becomes really slow. The homepage takes more than 5seconds to appear completely after passing the pattern. It takes 2/3minutes to comeback from the lag. When the lag ends I face no other performance drop. It runs smoothly. What do you think about my problem? Need help