[Q] Moving apps to SD card - Question re Overcome ROM - Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I have a Galaxy Tab running the Overcome Rom v1.6.0
Under Settings / Applications / Manage Applications it is possible to move apps to the SD card. My questions (noob) are:
1 - is it ok to move all apps the SD card?
2- is it possible to move all the apps in one go and not have do it one by one?

Happy_Go_Lucky said:
Hi
I have a Galaxy Tab running the Overcome Rom v1.6.0
Under Settings / Applications / Manage Applications it is possible to move apps to the SD card. My questions (noob) are:
1 - is it ok to move all apps the SD card?
2- is it possible to move all the apps in one go and not have do it one by one?
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All your apps will be installed to the 2GB partition on the internal SD card. No real need to move them to other partition or to an external card. This may be needed on other devices that do not have a internal SD card or ones that have a small nand chip etc but not really needed on the Tab.
Unless you have one of teh tabs that didnt come with 16GB of internal memory, then ofcourse nothing I said applies.

Would it make a difference in terms of speed / performance if I kept all 3rd party apps on the external sd card. The tab is 16gb.

Happy_Go_Lucky said:
Would it make a difference in terms of speed / performance if I kept all 3rd party apps on the external sd card. The tab is 16gb.
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Not really no. They are both SD cards. Remember the tab has a 16GB sd card installed internally, hidden under the casing, its not like phones where they have onboard memory in nand, with exception to windows phones, they too also have internal SD cards.
I suppose it depends on what brand/class they are. I'm sure somebody more technically minded about this particular subject will be able to answer better.
I personally keep all my files like apk's and documents etc on my external and reserve my internal for installed data, music, videos etc.

My situation is I have 8GB space on the internal. My music file which I am about to Sync is 8.5GB. I was looking at also putting my music on the external sd. Is there a quality difference (you have yours on the internal).
Also (hope you can help me on this one). When using Kies you have the option to add your music files to the Kies Library. Is\this simply going to copy my entire music library (8gb) to a new samsung folder on the pc and hence duplicate my music + waste space? Or am I missing something?

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[Q] Moving Apps form Galaxy to internal SD is possible?

Hi I have upgraded my Galaxy S to Froyo with "official" firmware, everything is running ok, I also installed the OneClick LagFix (this change my quadrant from 892 to 1915) but now I only have 400Mb free in the phone memory, I would like to move some apps to the SD but I get the following error "Error moving app. There is not enough memory" (Possible this is not the correct message, i get this message in spanish )
I dont have a external SD, but I have 14Gb free in the internal SD, is not possible move apps to this memory?
Thx in advance
install Froyo, then you can run apps from External SD
AllGamer said:
install Froyo, then you can run apps from External SD
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I do believe thats what he did, as he wrote it in his first sentence...
luischorradas said:
Hi I have upgraded my Galaxy S to Froyo ...
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yes, but all the apps needs to be re-installed and select External SD during install
or you can force them to External and hope it works with those 3rd party programs that moves apps to External SD
Thx AllGamers, I would like to install in the internal SD partition that have 14Gb free, because I donĀ“t have external SD
Thx in advance
there are tons of 3rd party apps to choose from that helps you manage where you want your apps to go, check these out:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/movetosd/com.curvefish.apps.movetosd
or
http://www.appbrain.com/app/app-to-sd-(free-no-ads)/mobi.mgeek.AppToSD
or
http://www.appbrain.com/app/app-2-sd-(move-apps-to-sd)/com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd
there are more to choose from...
This Apps runs OK only if you have a External SD, but I'd like to move to internal SD in Galaxy S
APPs into external SD card
I've a question, is possible to install the apps into the external microSD card?
I know that Froyo permit to do it but only into the internale SD card and i want to use the external one (i've bought a 32Gb for it!!)
Have you any solution?
Thank you!!
I've tried to send my apps to the internal sd card but whenever I click move to sd card it tells me I havnt got enough memory so I thought they go on the externel sd card?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Riverriz said:
I've tried to send my apps to the internal sd card but whenever I click move to sd card it tells me I havnt got enough memory so I thought they go on the externel sd card?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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I quit trying this.. anyone knows why we can't move it to SD?
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[Q] App2SD & Data
SGS i9000 16Gb & 32Gb SD card
Using DocRambone rom 7.62 & SpeedMod kernel v9
Q. I can move an app to SD w/o problem but the data file that is consuming a large portion of my internal memo stays on internal SD. Is there a way to move the app and it's data to the SD?
greyfox505 said:
I've a question, is possible to install the apps into the external microSD card?
I know that Froyo permit to do it but only into the internale SD card and i want to use the external one (i've bought a 32Gb for it!!)
Have you any solution?
Thank you!!
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I too have a 32Gb card installed.
You can move the apps and there are a number of 3rd party apps that will do this for you quickly or you can do it from settings in managing the applications. I found that this was not the space saving solution that I thought it would be.
It is the data that needs to be moved, e.g., DoggCatcher is my news reader and it had about 3Gb worth of data. Moving the app didn't save any space but using the setting in the program to move the data did the trick. Play around with moving a couple of apps and see what you get and check to see if the app will allow you to move the data to a new location.
Some apps simply stock pile a lot of data. My eBook program, Audible which I can't do without is another one - over 1.5Gb. I'll contact Audible about this one.
some times when you check on sites like AppsBrain
it will tell you if the App is App2SD compatible
meaning it can be isntall to SD also data store on SD
as mpierce said, it's pretty useless to force a program to SD, meanwhile the heavy stuff remains in the phone internals
luischorradas said:
This Apps runs OK only if you have a External SD, but I'd like to move to internal SD in Galaxy S
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Can everyone please read before replying?? He wants to move his apps to the INTERNAL SD (so do I) and NOT the external SD. This is not possible as far as I'm concerned. Got the same error as luishchorradas.
luischorradas said:
Hi
actually u cannot move ur apps to the internal sd card as internal sd card (16 gb) is only meant for media (videos, songs etc.) and if u want more 16gb for ur apps u will hv to put an external sd card (galaxy s supports 16gb) and ya if u move to sd it will move to external sd card.
Thnx
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Thanx
Finally ... Thanx Coolfriend for you help
Sorry to resurrect an old thread. But I don't believe "move to SD" moves anything to the external SD card. The apps move to the internal SD card. Yes unmounting the SD card disables apps, but if you browse through the internal card, you'll still see them sitting there.
Me to, same problem, no google search helps :-(
vvslavavv said:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread. But I don't believe "move to SD" moves anything to the external SD card. The apps move to the internal SD card. Yes unmounting the SD card disables apps, but if you browse through the internal card, you'll still see them sitting there.
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sorry for necro'ing but it does indeed move it to the external SD, i've tried moving a couple apps with my Galaxy S to the, as it says, "move to USB memory" but as i check the free memory, it used the external SD memory, not the internal.

[Q] apps2sd whats the downside of running the apps from sd card

samsung galaxy SL-GT-I9003, running froyo 2.2.1
Since froyo allows moving apps2sd I have got a sandisk 32gb class 4 micro sd card & wonder if there is any downside to run an app from the sd card?
Should I partition the sd card for my data & apps separately?
If we update to a new ROM or firmware, and the APPs are on the SD Card do we have need to back up APPs ever again?
all my apps are on my sd card, there isnt really a downside, you dont need to make a partition.
The only thing is. if you accidently format your sd card, your apps will go. it saves memory on the phones internal card, allowing for a quicker response.
Just be sure to make a backup with titanium backup.
I do a backup every week, because im a constant flasher, but you can just make a backup and store it on your pc, just to be safe.
Flashing a new rom wont delete your apps unless you do a WIPE version or do it thru Odin. but if you do flash a new rom just make a backup anyway it only takes 5 mins.
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it saves memory on the phones internal card, allowing for a quicker response.
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so you mean to say the apps are on the external card but each application save its cache on internal phone sd card.
There are some apps that although you can move them to SD do not work properly when you do. Among these are many home screen widgets and some live wallpapers.
Oh I didnt know that, good I will keep that in mind.
Tehpriest said:
There are some apps that although you can move them to SD do not work properly when you do. Among these are many home screen widgets and some live wallpapers.
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Yes i forgot to mention that, but the ones you want on your homescreen like live wallpapers, music player whatever just leave on internal.
And yes i think the cache (or something like that) is saved to the internal, because when i remove my sd card, my apps still show but just wont launch....
Read many other post & checked my external sd card it does not have any of the moved apps, instead apps2sd moves the files to internal sd only.
So wondering whats the real use of apps2sd when you have limited internal sd space in my case only 1.51gb, I thought it is moving the apps to external sd which is 32 gb card I bought for this purpose only.
My phone shows 181mb left only.

Apps2sd - internal sd? why the hell not?

now to start for reference i may use the following terms
internal storage
internal SD
external SD
please note the difference.
This is also referencing the "official android" apps2sd as well as the other ones i have looked at.
in case you dont know any of the apps to SD methods have 1 goal:
to remove apps from the internal memory to an SD card, allowing more apps to be installed on systems.
most android devices dont have an internal SD, because of this the external SD is the normal place to store Apps to the SD card.
This is also where it stores any extra downloaded files (in case of large games) or user accessible files for apps (docs, themes, game roms, backups, config files) on phones without internal SD.
(All those folders that show up on your internal SD on a captivate.)
Now.... the captivate HAS an internal SD.
As far as i am concerned this was only half implemented correct.
THEY DID CORRECTLY now have the app downloaded files, and user interactive files i mentioned above moved to the internal SD.
THEY DIDNT (IMO) move Apps2sd, to the internal SD where it would make more sense.
- having apps on the any SD causes lag at boot, made further worse on the captivate because it mounts the internal SD, and scans it before it mounts the external SD and scans it, and this is where the apps are!
- also if you remove your external SD, you loose the apps.
- the internal SD is WAY more than enough to "want" to have more apps on more cards...
- this would free up the external SD to be PRIMARILY AND EXCLUSIVELY user files.
and remove the last bit of android files that can be removed by taking out an sdcard...
- the internal SD is a class 6 speed, faster than most external SD cards that most inexperienced users end up using.. class 4 ebay/amazon crap.
can we change this???
i dont see any reason why not, we have all the necessary sources for what handles this.
im not exactly running out of internal storage but some users actually do, and this just seems to make more sense.
any update on this?
From what i know currently about android and our cappy's, heres the info.
1. 1.8 GB of "Internal Phone Storage" is plenty enough for (Apps, Data, Contacts, etc.) . I have 312 apps on my phone and i still have 896 MB left.
2. As far as i know, the "Internal" SD of the captivate is partitioned into system, data, and is also the internal sd that you can put files in. So if it really was a Class 6 , despite the horrifying write speeds, it would make no difference because the "Internal Phone Storage" is a partition of the built in 16 gb of internal sd.
Again, i know nothing about how our phone works, but this is the info i know.
I never come near filling the internal storage, so I would not need this for space saving. But, it would make my weekly ROM flash a lot easier to not even worry about those apps.
Apps2insternalsd is an app I would pay for ... and I am not one to buy apps, less than 5 in the past year.
Sent from my Captivate running Continuum 5.6

Is it possible to move Apps to SD card ?

LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.
Actually, app are installed on the sdcard directly. The sdcard is actually the phone memory. Perhaps you want to install app on your micro sd card or the external_sd. You'll need Link 2 SD for that one. Moving apps to sdcard option was removed in ICS.
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
Agustus said:
LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.
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The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
psolord said:
The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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App2SD was introduced in Android 2.2 (FroYo). However, different developer solutions were already around at that time (a2sd+, link2sd etc.), but they required an ext3/ext4 partition, while the build-in app2sd would move them to a folder (.android-secure) on the FAT32 partition. The app2sd feature was eagerly awaited because of the limited storage devices had back then (the Nexus One had 512MB internal memory, of which 447 were usable and ~150 MB were used for /system). Now with bigger internal storage and the different internal structure which is used since ICS (and which is also the reason newer devices use MTP), moving apps to external SD is no longer officially supported. So you'll just have to use a developer's way again, in our case it's Directory Bind. I haven't used it yet since I still have some free space left, but it was reported to work properly. Afaik it just moves the files to external SD and then links the folders. Root should be required, but I don't know exactly. Personally i'd root nevertheless, as it gives you some advantages (Ti Backup, Ad-Free etc).
psolord said:
The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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Regarding OTG enable devices, I cannot understand why LG 4X doesn't support the OTG feature, it should be important to support it in order to make this smartphone a wonderful replacement of a computer (we may use external usb hard-disk or even external usb DVD/BR-writer).
Regarding internal/external sd card, if I use the command line "mount" inside a terminal, I see two lines including "/mnt/sdcard" and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" parameters. My question is: theoretically is it possible to swap the two a/m lines, so to mount "/mnt/sdcard" as external (the real external SD card) and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" as internal storage? If possible, how to do it? Root grants are enough to do it, or we need more to do it?

I've rooted my I9305 but what should I do with my memory card?

Just a quick question. I've followed tutorials and I believe i've rooted the phone (EE UK S3LT3) I've got a 16GB memory card included. Do I need to partition/format the card so I can get things moved to the SD card as much as possible?
john_semple said:
Just a quick question. I've followed tutorials and I believe i've rooted the phone (EE UK S3LT3) I've got a 16GB memory card included. Do I need to partition/format the card so I can get things moved to the SD card as much as possible?
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If it was included then it should be ready to go, you can store all kinds of media on your SD card but apps require a 3rd party application such as Titanium Backup to be moved to the SD card or you could install a mod that makes your phone think your SD card is your internal so all apps install there default
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If it was included then it should be ready to go, you can store all kinds of media on your SD card but apps require a 3rd party application such as Titanium Backup to be moved to the SD card or you could install a mod that makes your phone think your SD card is your internal so all apps install there default
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What mod would that be? (if you don't mind me asking)
Also I'll be more specific about my original post. I had the xperia play before. I folowed this tutorial for that:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/
That worked fine and everything moved to the SD card as far as I know. What I mean is should I format my card like that? I know it's not formatted or anything it's just sitting there full of space unused
The mod is called directory bind (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550)
It's needed if you want to move files to your SD. Unlike other phones, the s3 doesn't offer an option to move whatever you want to your Sd card. Formatting won't change anything. You have to use the above tool to trick your phone into thinking your extSD is the internal memory and vice versa.
There is no simple way of just moving all your data/apps to the SD card, unfortunately
I think i'm doing it with the mod now. I tried to move data with link2sd but that was a no no. That the only thing with this phone it's not easy to move things and what not.

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