[Q] apps2sd whats the downside of running the apps from sd card - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

samsung galaxy SL-GT-I9003, running froyo 2.2.1
Since froyo allows moving apps2sd I have got a sandisk 32gb class 4 micro sd card & wonder if there is any downside to run an app from the sd card?
Should I partition the sd card for my data & apps separately?
If we update to a new ROM or firmware, and the APPs are on the SD Card do we have need to back up APPs ever again?

all my apps are on my sd card, there isnt really a downside, you dont need to make a partition.
The only thing is. if you accidently format your sd card, your apps will go. it saves memory on the phones internal card, allowing for a quicker response.
Just be sure to make a backup with titanium backup.
I do a backup every week, because im a constant flasher, but you can just make a backup and store it on your pc, just to be safe.
Flashing a new rom wont delete your apps unless you do a WIPE version or do it thru Odin. but if you do flash a new rom just make a backup anyway it only takes 5 mins.

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it saves memory on the phones internal card, allowing for a quicker response.
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so you mean to say the apps are on the external card but each application save its cache on internal phone sd card.

There are some apps that although you can move them to SD do not work properly when you do. Among these are many home screen widgets and some live wallpapers.

Oh I didnt know that, good I will keep that in mind.

Tehpriest said:
There are some apps that although you can move them to SD do not work properly when you do. Among these are many home screen widgets and some live wallpapers.
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Yes i forgot to mention that, but the ones you want on your homescreen like live wallpapers, music player whatever just leave on internal.
And yes i think the cache (or something like that) is saved to the internal, because when i remove my sd card, my apps still show but just wont launch....

Read many other post & checked my external sd card it does not have any of the moved apps, instead apps2sd moves the files to internal sd only.
So wondering whats the real use of apps2sd when you have limited internal sd space in my case only 1.51gb, I thought it is moving the apps to external sd which is 32 gb card I bought for this purpose only.
My phone shows 181mb left only.

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Alot of apps can make g1 slower?

I am currently running cyanogens latest experimental version, with swap enabled with the partition. Now my question is..even if the apps are stored in my sd card and even though I use taskiller to kill all the apps I don't want running in the background, does having a lot of. apps make the phone slowe or does it really makes no difference? And what can I do to make it faster? I hate it when I hit home and it just hangs for 10 secs...any ideas?
JonathanFermin said:
I am currently running cyanogens latest experimental version, with swap enabled with the partition. Now my question is..even if the apps are stored in my sd card and even though I use taskiller to kill all the apps I don't want running in the background, does having a lot of. apps make the phone slowe or does it really makes no difference? And what can I do to make it faster? I hate it when I hit home and it just hangs for 10 secs...any ideas?
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As long as your card is partitioned correctly then apps2sd works automatically and should be working on yours. What class is your sd card?
supremeteam256 said:
As long as your card is partitioned correctly then apps2sd works automatically and should be working on yours. What class is your sd card?
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well apps2sd is working, i partitioned my card already, but what i need to know is if having too many apps affect how ur G1 run even if u kill the background apps and they are stored in the sdcard not the internal memory.
JonathanFermin said:
well apps2sd is working, i partitioned my card already, but what i need to know is if having too many apps affect how ur G1 run even if u kill the background apps and they are stored in the sdcard not the internal memory.
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You still didn't answer my question. I asked what class is your sd card. If you have a lower class card then yes it will run slower. Also you might need to clear out your data, cache, and dalvik-cache to have everything back up to speed.

[Q] Moving Apps form Galaxy to internal SD is possible?

Hi I have upgraded my Galaxy S to Froyo with "official" firmware, everything is running ok, I also installed the OneClick LagFix (this change my quadrant from 892 to 1915) but now I only have 400Mb free in the phone memory, I would like to move some apps to the SD but I get the following error "Error moving app. There is not enough memory" (Possible this is not the correct message, i get this message in spanish )
I dont have a external SD, but I have 14Gb free in the internal SD, is not possible move apps to this memory?
Thx in advance
install Froyo, then you can run apps from External SD
AllGamer said:
install Froyo, then you can run apps from External SD
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I do believe thats what he did, as he wrote it in his first sentence...
luischorradas said:
Hi I have upgraded my Galaxy S to Froyo ...
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yes, but all the apps needs to be re-installed and select External SD during install
or you can force them to External and hope it works with those 3rd party programs that moves apps to External SD
Thx AllGamers, I would like to install in the internal SD partition that have 14Gb free, because I donĀ“t have external SD
Thx in advance
there are tons of 3rd party apps to choose from that helps you manage where you want your apps to go, check these out:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/movetosd/com.curvefish.apps.movetosd
or
http://www.appbrain.com/app/app-to-sd-(free-no-ads)/mobi.mgeek.AppToSD
or
http://www.appbrain.com/app/app-2-sd-(move-apps-to-sd)/com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd
there are more to choose from...
This Apps runs OK only if you have a External SD, but I'd like to move to internal SD in Galaxy S
APPs into external SD card
I've a question, is possible to install the apps into the external microSD card?
I know that Froyo permit to do it but only into the internale SD card and i want to use the external one (i've bought a 32Gb for it!!)
Have you any solution?
Thank you!!
I've tried to send my apps to the internal sd card but whenever I click move to sd card it tells me I havnt got enough memory so I thought they go on the externel sd card?
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Riverriz said:
I've tried to send my apps to the internal sd card but whenever I click move to sd card it tells me I havnt got enough memory so I thought they go on the externel sd card?
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I quit trying this.. anyone knows why we can't move it to SD?
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[Q] App2SD & Data
SGS i9000 16Gb & 32Gb SD card
Using DocRambone rom 7.62 & SpeedMod kernel v9
Q. I can move an app to SD w/o problem but the data file that is consuming a large portion of my internal memo stays on internal SD. Is there a way to move the app and it's data to the SD?
greyfox505 said:
I've a question, is possible to install the apps into the external microSD card?
I know that Froyo permit to do it but only into the internale SD card and i want to use the external one (i've bought a 32Gb for it!!)
Have you any solution?
Thank you!!
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I too have a 32Gb card installed.
You can move the apps and there are a number of 3rd party apps that will do this for you quickly or you can do it from settings in managing the applications. I found that this was not the space saving solution that I thought it would be.
It is the data that needs to be moved, e.g., DoggCatcher is my news reader and it had about 3Gb worth of data. Moving the app didn't save any space but using the setting in the program to move the data did the trick. Play around with moving a couple of apps and see what you get and check to see if the app will allow you to move the data to a new location.
Some apps simply stock pile a lot of data. My eBook program, Audible which I can't do without is another one - over 1.5Gb. I'll contact Audible about this one.
some times when you check on sites like AppsBrain
it will tell you if the App is App2SD compatible
meaning it can be isntall to SD also data store on SD
as mpierce said, it's pretty useless to force a program to SD, meanwhile the heavy stuff remains in the phone internals
luischorradas said:
This Apps runs OK only if you have a External SD, but I'd like to move to internal SD in Galaxy S
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Can everyone please read before replying?? He wants to move his apps to the INTERNAL SD (so do I) and NOT the external SD. This is not possible as far as I'm concerned. Got the same error as luishchorradas.
luischorradas said:
Hi
actually u cannot move ur apps to the internal sd card as internal sd card (16 gb) is only meant for media (videos, songs etc.) and if u want more 16gb for ur apps u will hv to put an external sd card (galaxy s supports 16gb) and ya if u move to sd it will move to external sd card.
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Thanx
Finally ... Thanx Coolfriend for you help
Sorry to resurrect an old thread. But I don't believe "move to SD" moves anything to the external SD card. The apps move to the internal SD card. Yes unmounting the SD card disables apps, but if you browse through the internal card, you'll still see them sitting there.
Me to, same problem, no google search helps :-(
vvslavavv said:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread. But I don't believe "move to SD" moves anything to the external SD card. The apps move to the internal SD card. Yes unmounting the SD card disables apps, but if you browse through the internal card, you'll still see them sitting there.
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sorry for necro'ing but it does indeed move it to the external SD, i've tried moving a couple apps with my Galaxy S to the, as it says, "move to USB memory" but as i check the free memory, it used the external SD memory, not the internal.

partitioned 8G SD card, but don't see change on Internal memory

My HTC Hero is running low on memory space (I have Apps2sd installed also, but it can't move all apps), so I partitioned my 8G SD card with ROM manager, with 32M swap, 1g ext4 and the rest being FAT32.
After reboot, I still only see 160M of internal memory from settings, which is the original, and about 6.1G on SD card. That means it already took out the 1G, but why I don't see it as internal memory? Is it because of ex4? I tried ex3 too and got the same.
I have backed up the original SD card, but have not copied it back to the partitioned SD card yet. Anything else I need to do in order to see the expanded Internal Memory?
Thanks in advance!
hxz said:
My HTC Hero is running low on memory space (I have Apps2sd installed also, but it can't move all apps), so I partitioned my 8G SD card with ROM manager, with 32M swap, 1g ext4 and the rest being FAT32.
After reboot, I still only see 160M of internal memory from settings, which is the original, and about 6.1G on SD card. That means it already took out the 1G, but why I don't see it as internal memory? Is it because of ex4? I tried ex3 too and got the same.
I have backed up the original SD card, but have not copied it back to the partitioned SD card yet. Anything else I need to do in order to see the expanded Internal Memory?
Thanks in advance!
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Your sdcard space has nothing to do with internal memory. What you need to do if you want to have more space is 1 or 2 of a few different things: go into root explorer, move apps from /data/app to /system/app; Use Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions
either of those should give you more internal memory.
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Your sdcard space has nothing to do with internal memory. What you need to do if you want to have more space is 1 or 2 of a few different things: go into root explorer, move apps from /data/app to /system/app; Use Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions
either of those should give you more internal memory.
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I read that after partitioning the SD card, apps will be installed into the ext3/4 partition automatically. But that's not the case after I partitioned. Then I found I need to install app2sd+ instead of app2sd. Is that true?
Where do I download app2sd+ ? do I need to flash a different ROM? I am having CM 6.2.0 now.
Thanks!
hxz said:
I read that after partitioning the SD card, apps will be installed into the ext3/4 partition automatically. But that's not the case after I partitioned. Then I found I need to install app2sd+ instead of app2sd. Is that true?
Where do I download app2sd+ ? do I need to flash a different ROM? I am having CM 6.2.0 now.
Thanks!
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CM6.2 has native apps2sd. Go to settings>CM settings>Application settings and select "Allow application moving", then select "External" for Isntall location.
Also, you can move apps that don't install or allow swap to the SD via Titanium Backup.
Just be warned that any apps that have widgets lose widget functionality if you move them to the SD.
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CM6.2 has native apps2sd. Go to settings>CM settings>Application settings and select "Allow application moving", then select "External" for Isntall location.
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Does it install ALL apps to SD card? I thought it's the same as App2sd, only moving those apps that specified by the developers as movable. And there are many apps that can't be moved to external.
My understanding is by partitioning the SD card, the EXT2/3/4 part is considered as part of the "internal memory" so that ALL apps will be installed here, thus free the real internal memory and lead to better performance.
The problem is it doesn't work after partitioning and I read that it needs app2sd+ or app2sd EXT to work, and I am having trouble finding them...
Thanks any way.
hxz said:
Does it install ALL apps to SD card? I thought it's the same as App2sd, only moving those apps that specified by the developers as movable. And there are many apps that can't be moved to external.
My understanding is by partitioning the SD card, the EXT2/3/4 part is considered as part of the "internal memory" so that ALL apps will be installed here, thus free the real internal memory and lead to better performance.
The problem is it doesn't work after partitioning and I read that it needs app2sd+ or app2sd EXT to work, and I am having trouble finding them...
Thanks any way.
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Not all, but most. Like BrandoKC said, you can move more apps to the sd using Titanium Backup. Don't move anything with a widget you use, or it won't work anymore.
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Also, you can move apps that don't install or allow swap to the SD via Titanium Backup.
Just be warned that any apps that have widgets lose widget functionality if you move them to the SD.
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Are you talking about the paid version of Titanium? The free version doesn't have this feature.
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Not all, but most. Like BrandoKC said, you can move more apps to the sd using Titanium Backup. Don't move anything with a widget you use, or it won't work anymore.
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CM's built-in Application Management can only move those apps that you can move by app2sd. I don't see such feature on the free Titanium Backup. My 160M internal memory is constantly under 20M of free memory.
I heard all the good things about using partitioned SD card. I have partitioned my card but that alone doesn't seem to work. it seems I also need to install some customized ROM on top of my CM 6.2 so that apps will be automatically installed on SD?
Thanks!
The free version of titanium does have it. I just used it on my fiances phone last weekend.
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Why should we move apps to sd ?

So everytime you flash, you most likely have to use titanium to restore all apps. And I have about 40apps movable to the sd card.
I use 'app to sd free' which makes me click move to sd so many times and it takes a lot of time. plus I flash a lot so it really makes me sort of mad...
Now my question is why do we need to move it to sd? Is it simply for more space?.
I have a lot of leftover storage so is it necessary for me to move my apps to sd? Does it do anything else?
Or is there an app that moves everything with one click?
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Moving to sd is just more space for apps, more than the 2gb or so where they are normally installed. That's it.
Idk about any other apps to move in one click, all of mine are still in the normal place.
moving to SD is impemented wrong on the cappy IMO, goes to external SD instead of internal SD, on boot it scans that SD last and will lag the whole system until its finished scanning on most launchers.
and moving to SD is better on devices that dont have 2 GB internal storage
just not worth it for us.
TRusselo said:
moving to SD is impemented wrong on the cappy IMO, goes to external SD instead of internal SD, on boot it scans that SD last and will lag the whole system until its finished scanning on most launchers.
and moving to SD is better on devices that dont have 2 GB internal storage
just not worth it for us.
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Not worth for a device like Captivate that has a huge storage space

I've rooted my I9305 but what should I do with my memory card?

Just a quick question. I've followed tutorials and I believe i've rooted the phone (EE UK S3LT3) I've got a 16GB memory card included. Do I need to partition/format the card so I can get things moved to the SD card as much as possible?
john_semple said:
Just a quick question. I've followed tutorials and I believe i've rooted the phone (EE UK S3LT3) I've got a 16GB memory card included. Do I need to partition/format the card so I can get things moved to the SD card as much as possible?
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If it was included then it should be ready to go, you can store all kinds of media on your SD card but apps require a 3rd party application such as Titanium Backup to be moved to the SD card or you could install a mod that makes your phone think your SD card is your internal so all apps install there default
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If it was included then it should be ready to go, you can store all kinds of media on your SD card but apps require a 3rd party application such as Titanium Backup to be moved to the SD card or you could install a mod that makes your phone think your SD card is your internal so all apps install there default
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What mod would that be? (if you don't mind me asking)
Also I'll be more specific about my original post. I had the xperia play before. I folowed this tutorial for that:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/
That worked fine and everything moved to the SD card as far as I know. What I mean is should I format my card like that? I know it's not formatted or anything it's just sitting there full of space unused
The mod is called directory bind (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550)
It's needed if you want to move files to your SD. Unlike other phones, the s3 doesn't offer an option to move whatever you want to your Sd card. Formatting won't change anything. You have to use the above tool to trick your phone into thinking your extSD is the internal memory and vice versa.
There is no simple way of just moving all your data/apps to the SD card, unfortunately
I think i'm doing it with the mod now. I tried to move data with link2sd but that was a no no. That the only thing with this phone it's not easy to move things and what not.

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