I am currently running cyanogens latest experimental version, with swap enabled with the partition. Now my question is..even if the apps are stored in my sd card and even though I use taskiller to kill all the apps I don't want running in the background, does having a lot of. apps make the phone slowe or does it really makes no difference? And what can I do to make it faster? I hate it when I hit home and it just hangs for 10 secs...any ideas?
JonathanFermin said:
I am currently running cyanogens latest experimental version, with swap enabled with the partition. Now my question is..even if the apps are stored in my sd card and even though I use taskiller to kill all the apps I don't want running in the background, does having a lot of. apps make the phone slowe or does it really makes no difference? And what can I do to make it faster? I hate it when I hit home and it just hangs for 10 secs...any ideas?
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As long as your card is partitioned correctly then apps2sd works automatically and should be working on yours. What class is your sd card?
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As long as your card is partitioned correctly then apps2sd works automatically and should be working on yours. What class is your sd card?
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well apps2sd is working, i partitioned my card already, but what i need to know is if having too many apps affect how ur G1 run even if u kill the background apps and they are stored in the sdcard not the internal memory.
JonathanFermin said:
well apps2sd is working, i partitioned my card already, but what i need to know is if having too many apps affect how ur G1 run even if u kill the background apps and they are stored in the sdcard not the internal memory.
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You still didn't answer my question. I asked what class is your sd card. If you have a lower class card then yes it will run slower. Also you might need to clear out your data, cache, and dalvik-cache to have everything back up to speed.
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hello everyone
just got my 8g class6 card partitioned to ext2
running cm3.6.5 and it shows my card being partitioned.
now my question is, what else do i need to do in order for my apps to run from the sd card?? I'm very new to all of this and need some help.
i thought cm's build would automatically do this but i've downloaded apps from the market and they take up my available memory up so i'm missing something. hehe.
do i need a certain app to do this or commands of some sort?
I've tried searching the site but can't find simple to understand instructions.
Thanks again in advance for any help.
RegulatorG1 said:
hello everyone
just got my 8g class6 card partitioned to ext2
running cm3.6.5 and it shows my card being partitioned.
now my question is, what else do i need to do in order for my apps to run from the sd card?? I'm very new to all of this and need some help.
i thought cm's build would automatically do this but i've downloaded apps from the market and they take up my available memory up so i'm missing something. hehe.
do i need a certain app to do this or commands of some sort?
I've tried searching the site but can't find simple to understand instructions.
Thanks again in advance for any help.
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Nope, Cyan should automatically be doing it for you. Try rebooting the phone. If they are doing something, it should be in small amounts. How many apps/how much room remaining on the internal memory?
cool, thanks for the reply.
wierd thing is that when I had flashed cm's rom i had 73 MB on internal
I then installed the hero theme and that changed it to 69 MB.
reflashed the rom again to take off the theme and MB still on 69.
I just installed like 15apps and they are indeed on my 2nd partition! w00t
It's the data. Data doesn't reside on the SD. So if you browse the internet or market, you will notice you're internal mem go down. But you can fix that by just deleting the caches
how can you tell if your ext partition is helping?
so i downloaded apps2sd and repartitioned, but nothing is faster, i see no clarification of speed from it at all....the only thing noticeable is that my 4 gig sd card is now 1.75 gigs......help?
CHERNAB0G said:
how can you tell if your ext partition is helping?
so i downloaded apps2sd and repartitioned, but nothing is faster, i see no clarification of speed from it at all....the only thing noticeable is that my 4 gig sd card is now 1.75 gigs......help?
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You don't, apps2sd puts your apps on the sd and that is all. It doesn't help with the speed or anything else.
CHERNAB0G said:
how can you tell if your ext partition is helping?
so i downloaded apps2sd and repartitioned, but nothing is faster, i see no clarification of speed from it at all....the only thing noticeable is that my 4 gig sd card is now 1.75 gigs......help?
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I think you can check sd storage via settings or type df in terminal to see if its being used and how much space is left.
But speed wont be faster or slower with apps2sd.
the ext partition is for using apps2sd, so it will make your fat32 partition for media and such smaller. swap partition is to make things speedier, or supposed to. check settings/sdcard & phone storage/sd card secondary. thats how i could tell by total and available space
so to have 2 1/2 gigs for apps is really a waste unless i want to have 500 apps on my phone......good to know, if i may ask, how do i get rid of that? and how do i get this "swap" partition?
thanks for your replies, theyre greatly appreciated
CHERNAB0G said:
so to have 2 1/2 gigs for apps is really a waste unless i want to have 500 apps on my phone......good to know, if i may ask, how do i get rid of that? and how do i get this "swap" partition?
thanks for your replies, theyre greatly appreciated
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You must repartition your sd with recovery and choose a swap size...But all your files on your sd will be deleted from your card. And you must re-DL apps from market.I use 256MB Ext cause i install less than 30 apps.My fav app is gameboid/Snesoid so i mainly care if that works.
Ace42 said:
You must repartition your sd with recovery and choose a swap size...But all your files on your sd will be deleted from your card. And you must re-DL apps from market.I use 256MB Ext cause i install less than 30 apps.My fav app is gameboid/Snesoid so i mainly care if that works.
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*boots into recovery and actually reads the options* oh look, "partition sdcard," am i blind or what? lol. thanks ace, had a feeling i could count on you.....thanks to everyone else for there responses as well ^_^
i used droid swap, but ive only got the stock mem card for now as my 8g **** out on me, and its a class 1 i have been told, which is why i was lagging so much with a2sd. but im pretty sure you can use scripts and such to turn swap on
I've got CyanogenMod 6 on my N1 but it tells me I'm running out of space. Even using the Froyo apps2sd it's not saving me much.
If I go into CyanogenMod settings and tell it to use external, it doesn't move them? How does this work?
Also, if an app is Froyo'd to the SD, the market seems to struggle to update it?
Anyone help me?
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I've got CyanogenMod 6 on my N1 but it tells me I'm running out of space. Even using the Froyo apps2sd it's not saving me much.
If I go into CyanogenMod settings and tell it to use external, it doesn't move them? How does this work?
Also, if an app is Froyo'd to the SD, the market seems to struggle to update it?
Anyone help me?
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You can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940.
Just create ext partition on your sdcard and flash downloaded zip from recovery.
First boot takes little longer because all apps will be moved to ext partition.
Thanks, seems to be doing the trick. I think it leaves the apps behind still. Do you know if I can safely delete them from the internal memory now?
You should not delete them. You probably don't understand how app2sd(ext) works.
In froyo everything you have moved on SD is at fat on you SD (froyo style) and everything you have on internal storage is on ext partition (old app2ext style).
Yes, but not really internal storage, it's on the partition at the beginning of my SD Card. Disk Usage looks like it's saying all the old apk's are still on the internal storage of the phone.
Anyway, no real issue. It picked up all the apps I used to have on the partition, so I had to clear a lot of those out.
My HTC Hero is running low on memory space (I have Apps2sd installed also, but it can't move all apps), so I partitioned my 8G SD card with ROM manager, with 32M swap, 1g ext4 and the rest being FAT32.
After reboot, I still only see 160M of internal memory from settings, which is the original, and about 6.1G on SD card. That means it already took out the 1G, but why I don't see it as internal memory? Is it because of ex4? I tried ex3 too and got the same.
I have backed up the original SD card, but have not copied it back to the partitioned SD card yet. Anything else I need to do in order to see the expanded Internal Memory?
Thanks in advance!
hxz said:
My HTC Hero is running low on memory space (I have Apps2sd installed also, but it can't move all apps), so I partitioned my 8G SD card with ROM manager, with 32M swap, 1g ext4 and the rest being FAT32.
After reboot, I still only see 160M of internal memory from settings, which is the original, and about 6.1G on SD card. That means it already took out the 1G, but why I don't see it as internal memory? Is it because of ex4? I tried ex3 too and got the same.
I have backed up the original SD card, but have not copied it back to the partitioned SD card yet. Anything else I need to do in order to see the expanded Internal Memory?
Thanks in advance!
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Your sdcard space has nothing to do with internal memory. What you need to do if you want to have more space is 1 or 2 of a few different things: go into root explorer, move apps from /data/app to /system/app; Use Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions
either of those should give you more internal memory.
Twolazyg said:
Your sdcard space has nothing to do with internal memory. What you need to do if you want to have more space is 1 or 2 of a few different things: go into root explorer, move apps from /data/app to /system/app; Use Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions
either of those should give you more internal memory.
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I read that after partitioning the SD card, apps will be installed into the ext3/4 partition automatically. But that's not the case after I partitioned. Then I found I need to install app2sd+ instead of app2sd. Is that true?
Where do I download app2sd+ ? do I need to flash a different ROM? I am having CM 6.2.0 now.
Thanks!
hxz said:
I read that after partitioning the SD card, apps will be installed into the ext3/4 partition automatically. But that's not the case after I partitioned. Then I found I need to install app2sd+ instead of app2sd. Is that true?
Where do I download app2sd+ ? do I need to flash a different ROM? I am having CM 6.2.0 now.
Thanks!
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CM6.2 has native apps2sd. Go to settings>CM settings>Application settings and select "Allow application moving", then select "External" for Isntall location.
Also, you can move apps that don't install or allow swap to the SD via Titanium Backup.
Just be warned that any apps that have widgets lose widget functionality if you move them to the SD.
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CM6.2 has native apps2sd. Go to settings>CM settings>Application settings and select "Allow application moving", then select "External" for Isntall location.
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Does it install ALL apps to SD card? I thought it's the same as App2sd, only moving those apps that specified by the developers as movable. And there are many apps that can't be moved to external.
My understanding is by partitioning the SD card, the EXT2/3/4 part is considered as part of the "internal memory" so that ALL apps will be installed here, thus free the real internal memory and lead to better performance.
The problem is it doesn't work after partitioning and I read that it needs app2sd+ or app2sd EXT to work, and I am having trouble finding them...
Thanks any way.
hxz said:
Does it install ALL apps to SD card? I thought it's the same as App2sd, only moving those apps that specified by the developers as movable. And there are many apps that can't be moved to external.
My understanding is by partitioning the SD card, the EXT2/3/4 part is considered as part of the "internal memory" so that ALL apps will be installed here, thus free the real internal memory and lead to better performance.
The problem is it doesn't work after partitioning and I read that it needs app2sd+ or app2sd EXT to work, and I am having trouble finding them...
Thanks any way.
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Not all, but most. Like BrandoKC said, you can move more apps to the sd using Titanium Backup. Don't move anything with a widget you use, or it won't work anymore.
BrandoKC said:
Also, you can move apps that don't install or allow swap to the SD via Titanium Backup.
Just be warned that any apps that have widgets lose widget functionality if you move them to the SD.
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Are you talking about the paid version of Titanium? The free version doesn't have this feature.
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Not all, but most. Like BrandoKC said, you can move more apps to the sd using Titanium Backup. Don't move anything with a widget you use, or it won't work anymore.
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CM's built-in Application Management can only move those apps that you can move by app2sd. I don't see such feature on the free Titanium Backup. My 160M internal memory is constantly under 20M of free memory.
I heard all the good things about using partitioned SD card. I have partitioned my card but that alone doesn't seem to work. it seems I also need to install some customized ROM on top of my CM 6.2 so that apps will be automatically installed on SD?
Thanks!
The free version of titanium does have it. I just used it on my fiances phone last weekend.
Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G
samsung galaxy SL-GT-I9003, running froyo 2.2.1
Since froyo allows moving apps2sd I have got a sandisk 32gb class 4 micro sd card & wonder if there is any downside to run an app from the sd card?
Should I partition the sd card for my data & apps separately?
If we update to a new ROM or firmware, and the APPs are on the SD Card do we have need to back up APPs ever again?
all my apps are on my sd card, there isnt really a downside, you dont need to make a partition.
The only thing is. if you accidently format your sd card, your apps will go. it saves memory on the phones internal card, allowing for a quicker response.
Just be sure to make a backup with titanium backup.
I do a backup every week, because im a constant flasher, but you can just make a backup and store it on your pc, just to be safe.
Flashing a new rom wont delete your apps unless you do a WIPE version or do it thru Odin. but if you do flash a new rom just make a backup anyway it only takes 5 mins.
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it saves memory on the phones internal card, allowing for a quicker response.
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so you mean to say the apps are on the external card but each application save its cache on internal phone sd card.
There are some apps that although you can move them to SD do not work properly when you do. Among these are many home screen widgets and some live wallpapers.
Oh I didnt know that, good I will keep that in mind.
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There are some apps that although you can move them to SD do not work properly when you do. Among these are many home screen widgets and some live wallpapers.
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Yes i forgot to mention that, but the ones you want on your homescreen like live wallpapers, music player whatever just leave on internal.
And yes i think the cache (or something like that) is saved to the internal, because when i remove my sd card, my apps still show but just wont launch....
Read many other post & checked my external sd card it does not have any of the moved apps, instead apps2sd moves the files to internal sd only.
So wondering whats the real use of apps2sd when you have limited internal sd space in my case only 1.51gb, I thought it is moving the apps to external sd which is 32 gb card I bought for this purpose only.
My phone shows 181mb left only.