Hey everyone,
I am about to finally root my phone and install a custom ROM. I was looking at the unlockr website and was reviewing everything before i went ahead and mess up things. Since I have a stock 2.2 phone do i need to do that ODIN procedure at all after i root it or can i just download ROM manager and install a custom ROM through that? I was either going to do Perception or Cognition since I am a new user. But for cognition i was going to maybe wait toll 2.3 was stable because people been having problems. Thank you!
PMart
Pmart317 said:
Hey everyone,
I am about to finally root my phone and install a custom ROM. I was looking at the unlockr website and was reviewing everything before i went ahead and mess up things. Since I have a stock 2.2 phone do i need to do that ODIN procedure at all after i root it or can i just download ROM manager and install a custom ROM through that? I was either going to do Perception or Cognition since I am a new user. But for cognition i was going to maybe wait toll 2.3 was stable because people been having problems. Thank you!
PMart
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2.2 is not stock. 2.1-1 is.
as far as cognition goes, the 2.3b4-6 are pretty stable, but dont get that confused with ANDROID 2.3....they are 2.2 roms
i think you have some more reading to do
Pirateghost said:
2.2 is not stock. 2.1-1 is.
as far as cognition goes, the 2.3b4-6 are pretty stable, but dont get that confused with ANDROID 2.3....they are 2.2 roms
i think you have some more reading to do
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^^^THIS^^^
Make sure you understand how to recover when you screw the pooch. Cognition is a good place to start, read all you can on voodoo lagfix. Perception can be a bit daunting with all the voltages, kernels and such.
Good luck and welcome to XDA!!
Current Phone:
Firmware: 2.2
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9
Build Number:Froyo.UCJI6
I did a little more reading... Yes i got confused with the firmware version and the build numbers and wanted to make sure if i was doing the correct procedure. I also looked into how to recover everything too so I am good if i mess up. I am going to root using one click root and download the needed apps and backup with titanium, then run ROM manager an "Flash Clockwork Mod."
I am going to go with [ROM]Cognition v2.3b6 and install that on my captivate through ROM manager.
Then I am going to look into the voodoo lagfix kernel after i successfully flashed. I just did not know if this cognition was a good rom to do or that I should wait?
Pmart317 said:
Current Phone:
Firmware: 2.2
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9
Build Number:Froyo.UCJI6
I did a little more reading... Yes i got confused with the firmware version and the build numbers and wanted to make sure if i was doing the correct procedure. I also looked into how to recover everything too so I am good if i mess up. I am going to root using one click root and download the needed apps and backup with titanium, then run ROM manager an "Flash Clockwork Mod."
I am going to go with [ROM]Cognition v2.3b6 and install that on my captivate through ROM manager.
Then I am going to look into the voodoo lagfix kernel after i successfully flashed. I just did not know if this cognition was a good rom to do or that I should wait?
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Everything you want to do will not work with your version of 2. 2. You need to flash to stock prior to trying to flash any roms.
Please take the time to read and understand what it is you are doing before you ruin your phone.
- Axura made me type this
Just to re-iterate what has been said...
There is a beta of 2.2, but there is no official stock 2.2. What your phone has was the beta - many of the ROMs out there are based on this, so you may not "fix" anything by flasing to another 2.2.
I am sorry, is there a link where u can put me in the right direction to downgrade? Thank you. I just want to root my phone because having this 2.2 i have now is nothing special.
Pmart317 said:
I am sorry, is there a link where u can put me in the right direction to downgrade? Thank you. I just want to root my phone because having this 2.2 i have now is nothing special.
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Find ODIN One-Click on the Development Section.
Pmart317 said:
Current Phone:
Firmware: 2.2
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9
Build Number:Froyo.UCJI6
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If this stock for you phone, where did you get your phone from and/or what area are you living in?
JI6 is the Froyo beta that was leaked a month ago.
Jmurph3 said:
If this stock for you phone, where did you get your phone from and/or what area are you living in?
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Hey sorry it is not stock I forgot i put 2.2 froyo on after it was leaked. I am just saying that is my current firmware before I downgrade to eclair 2.1 and then root my phone.
I found the right thing I hope...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
alphadog00 said:
JI6 is the Froyo beta that was leaked a month ago.
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I only ask because they said it was stock with the phone.
before I do the Odin3 one-click...is there something i can use to backup my apps on the market that is realible to restore my paid apps.
My phone is not rooted of course so i can not download Titanium backup..
Thanks again guys!
Pmart
Pmart317 said:
before I do the Odin3 one-click...is there something i can use to backup my apps on the market that is realible to restore my paid apps.
My phone is not rooted of course so i can not download Titanium backup..
Thanks again guys!
Pmart
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Root the phone if you are going to be flashing ROMs. It's easy enough to do, and Titanium Backup is a must have ...
Rooted my phone successfully and I am at 2.1 eclair and i have been reading up on other custom roms to install.
I was looking at Axura, perception, and cognition...but i am a big theme guy and i did not know how to go about like changing the theme for the ROM?
Do i actually install the custom rom first and then find a theme for the custom rom?
Pmart317 said:
Rooted my phone successfully and I am at 2.1 eclair and i have been reading up on other custom roms to install.
I was looking at Axura, perception, and cognition...but i am a big theme guy and i did not know how to go about like changing the theme for the ROM?
Do i actually install the custom rom first and then find a theme for the custom rom?
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Yes, that would be the way to do it.
I intalled Cog the new version and wanted to know how to add Minimalistic mod theme?? There a link on a process to install theme over my cognition?? Thanks
Pmart317 said:
I intalled Cog the new version and wanted to know how to add Minimalistic mod theme?? There a link on a process to install theme over my cognition?? Thanks
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Well if you are speaking about the themes here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760106&highlight=Minimalistic+mod+theme
They are (as the post says) all flashable through CWM, which is exactly how you flashed the Cog ROM. Do the same process but select the zip file for the theme. Installs right over the top of the ROM.
hey everyone! I installed Cognition 2.3b6 and was wondering if i have to go back to the stock kernel everytime i want to put a different custom firmware?? Thanks
Pmart317 said:
hey everyone! I installed Cognition 2.3b6 and was wondering if i have to go back to the stock kernel everytime i want to put a different custom firmware?? Thanks
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Its is a safe bet to go to stock. All ROMs here are more or less developed based on factory settings, and this is got by going back to stock ROM. Going to stock resets phone back to factory level, and erases all traces of old ROM. This also avoids any potential issues that could crop up when u flash a different ROM over an existing custom ROM.
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Hey guys I have a rooted captivate running froyo. I want to try the Cognition v2.3b3 rom with lagfix, but I no idea where to start. Do I need to flash back to stock or can I just load the rom? Also I was wondering about overclocking, can I do that with this rom? Any help is appreciated. I am new to android, came from a unlocked iPhone this is way better! Thanks guys
tygoerlitz said:
Hey guys I have a rooted captivate running froyo. I want to try the Cognition v2.3b3 rom with lagfix, but I no idea where to start. Do I need to flash back to stock or can I just load the rom? Also I was wondering about overclocking, can I do that with this rom? Any help is appreciated. I am new to android, came from a unlocked iPhone this is way better! Thanks guys
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you should be able to flash over but it is considered good practice to start from stock, also i think you need ji6 froyo before jj4 froyo which cog2.3b* are based on, so the accepted proper procedure is masterclear and flash jf6 from the one click installer get android id with android id changer, flash ji6, also a one click installer, and then flash cognition. all with odin. you can clockwork recovery flash cognition but it is another proceedure to root ji6. after cognition is installed reinstall android id changer and load the id from the stock rom.
i usually flash over without lashing to stock ect unless the flash over has issues. and overclocking is handled in the kernel you need to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828052
with odin, no .pit file needed just drop file in the pda slot and flash in download mode. overclocking is enabled by default so you need set cpu to manage it.
there is a link to an app to manage under volting, my settings are -50mv low and -75 high. it also handles the scheduler, i use cfq. anticipatory seems to work eqaully well. some suggest deadline and it may be better real world but i dont see it in benchmarks. and real world is too subject to placebo effect and coincidence.
this kernel also has a universal lag fix handled in clockworkmod recovery which replaces the stock recovery. best setting for that is no rfs jfs overkill but in the advanced settings disable bind to dbdata. it's fast! 17.299 mflops in linpack, and it's the first time that i have had a lagfix improve a linack score(at least it appears to)
Here is the steps that got me from ji6 2.2 to cog.
First if you don't already get titanium back up and back up all of your apps you don't want to loose and copy the file to your computer and remove external SD card if you have one.
Then i used the 2.1 version of odin one click to go back to 2.1 after that do a master clear then root your phone and down load rom manager. Using rom manager flash the clockwork recovory mod.
Next download cognition 2.3b3 then go back to rom manager and select install rom from sd card and find your cog rom you just down loaded and it will do the rest
Once cog is on your phone you can put you titanium backup file back on your phone and redown load titanium backup and restore all of your apps.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
@ Dani897 I do have ji6 version of froyo. So I do need to flash back to stock 2.1 or can I flash cog with the version of froyo that I am running now? Sorry for the confusion here. I would like to keep running froyo if I can. Thanks guys
tygoerlitz said:
@ Dani897 I do have ji6 version of froyo. So I do need to flash back to stock 2.1 or can I flash cog with the version of froyo that I am running now? Sorry for the confusion here. I would like to keep running froyo if I can. Thanks guys
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Check out the Cog wiki.
http://cognition.theidiotshideout.net/mw/index.php?title=Main_Page#Installation
If you have clockwork installed, you can install over any rom. I would clear data to be on the safe side, though.
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If you have clockwork installed, you can install over any rom. I would clear data to be on the safe side, though.
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no you cant. it will only work if he has 2e recovery kernel. if it was the ji6 leak then it is running 3e recovery and no matter how hard you try, it wont boot into clockwork.
answer:
use the ODIN version of cognition. doesnt matter what rom you are on...
Ok so I am trying to flash cog via oden. I downloaded the file and am looking at the how to on the wiki but, in the wiki it says that all the files will be in the download Odin.exe PIT.pit PDA.tar PHONE.tar CSC.tar. The only files that I am seeing are the pda file the odin.exe and the pit file none of the other ones. Is this normal?
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Ok so I am trying to flash cog via oden. I downloaded the file and am looking at the how to on the wiki but, in the wiki it says that all the files will be in the download Odin.exe PIT.pit PDA.tar PHONE.tar CSC.tar. The only files that I am seeing are the pda file the odin.exe and the pit file none of the other ones. Is this normal?
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Yes. That's what is supposed to be there. That's all you need for that particular rom
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Cool thanks a lot for your help. Just to make sure before I do this. I did a back up using tibu, Im going to pull the sim, open odin, and flash. Is it really that easy or am I missing something? Thanks guys I really appreciate it.
tygoerlitz said:
Cool thanks a lot for your help. Just to make sure before I do this. I did a back up using tibu, Im going to pull the sim, open odin, and flash. Is it really that easy or am I missing something? Thanks guys I really appreciate it.
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Its really that easy
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Cool gonna do it now. Will post results
Ok just flashed and that went well, but it wont let me open any apps. For example when I try to open up tibu it tells me I have to force close. I also dont have 3g
i dont know if there that is a common issue, but im sure you will need to reflash. you may want to flash to stock.
it's a multi step procedure and annoying but it is usually safer , i guess i got lucky.
i dont know for sure if you need to flash ji6 before cog 2.3b, design gears may have fixed that, i didn't read the details of why it was needed.
i would;
(optional)master clear, remove sim and sdcard. you will loose everything including titanium backups and posibly nand backups. master clear is done with the phone booted normally.
flash jf6
flash cognition 2.2 by meathod of your choice (so you have root and clockwork recovery)
flash cog 2.3b3 in clockwork mod recovery.
I don't know iflosing every thing is worth it for me, I really do want to flash this rom and try it out, but right now seems risky, I flashed back to froyo that I was running before. I thibk I'm going to do some more research and see what I can find. Thanks for all your help guys
Ok a few days ago I flashed my first Rom (Cognition) all went well and before I did it I backed up my oringinal stock 2.1 rom with rom manager, My question is can I restore/recover that 2.1 original rom through rom manager then flash phoenix 2.5 rom or will I have to use odin to restore then Flash my new Rom. Thanks any help appreciated
No
You need to do this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
rob1216 said:
Ok a few days ago I flashed my first Rom (Cognition) all went well and before I did it I backed up my oringinal stock 2.1 rom with rom manager, My question is can I restore/recover that 2.1 original rom through rom manager then flash phoenix 2.5 rom or will I have to use odin to restore then Flash my new Rom. Thanks any help appreciated
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I Have A HTC Hero But I'm Pretty Sure It's The Same....
I'm Not Sure I'm Understanding Your Question, But I Think You Want To Get Back To Your Stock ROM & Flash A New ROM Correct?
If That's It?
You Can, But You Don't Have To Convert Back In Order To Flash Another Rom.... Just "Wipe"
System/Cache/Dalvik Cache,
& Install The New Rom!
You Can Always Restore Back To Your Stock Backup!!
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
PMGRANDS said:
I Have A HTC Hero But I'm Pretty Sure It's The Same....
I'm Not Sure I'm Understanding Your Question, But I Think You Want To Get Back To Your Stock ROM & Flash A New ROM Correct?
If That's It?
You Can, But You Don't Have To Convert Back In Order To Flash Another Rom.... Just "Wipe"
System/Cache/Dalvik Cache,
& Install The New Rom!
You Can Always Restore Back To Your Stock Backup!!
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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No you can not revert bacj to your stock 2.1 from 2.2 using clockwork with a captivate
Can you explain how to wipe system /cache/dalvix cache or post link i googled it but found nothing with step by step instructions. I would like to try this before odin. Also why does it let you create a back up of 2.1 rom if you cant revert back there from 2.2 then whats the point of backing up 2.1 in the first place. Just thought you could do that instead of odin after reading a post which I was going to post the link to here but wont let me cause Im too new.
rob1216 said:
Can you explain how to wipe system /cache/dalvix cache or post link i googled it but found nothing with step by step instructions. I would like to try this before odin. thanks
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Do you have rom manager?
Yes Free version
rob1216 said:
Yes Free version
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I do not recommend flashing phoenix over cognition without a flash to stock, but if you want to try, you can.
Cognition uses voodoo. First thing you should do is disable it.
Find voodoo file in your internal sd. Create a folder in side voodoo folder named disable-lagfix. Reboot phone.
Ok its disabled, but If Odin is the best way to go maybe I should try it but just been reading about higher risk of bricking phone using odin. Just really want to try different rom because cognition it smooth as butter but battery life is killing me compared to stock and yes I tried the charging battery to 100 then unplugging shutting down charging to 100, reboot, shut down then to 100 again no help. Anyways if I use Odin does voodoo have to be disabled also.
Pull your battery. Obviously power off first. Under battery is a build number, mine is 1008. Tell me yours
mine is 1010
Odin may be difficult to use. You may want to research your build more. Anything over 1008 is where odin is an issue
What is your base
Settings, about phone, bottom
Damn i didnt want to hear that,Says baseband version I897UCJI6 is that it.
Yes that is it.
Being on build 1010 I an not comfortable with telling you how to proceed. You need advise from someone who flashes with that build. It behaves differently with odin. I am sorry. Search build 1010
Ok thanks for your help, Ill look around
If you've never flashed with Odin one-click before, try this instead to avoid any risk of bricking (very likely on some build 1008-1010 phones that don't run JF6 stock):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
Has anyone with a 1010 tried this with success
GGXtreme said:
If you've never flashed with Odin one-click before, try this instead to avoid any risk of bricking (very likely on some build 1008-1010 phones that don't run JF6 stock):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
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rob1216 said:
Has anyone with a 1010 tried this with success
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Me And several people I suggested it to. But now I have a batch 1009 Captivate (traded in mine because of random shutdown issue).
saved my cappy once
I guess I'm confused...is odin really necessary at all for him? If he disables voodoo lagfix, and clears dalvik cache, he should be able to flash over the top...correct?
I flashed cognition 3.02 direct to andromeda 2.0 via cwr and did not clear dalvik or disable lagfix (since cog and andromeda both enable voodoo)...no problems for me.
Maybe it's different/more complicated flashing over the top to the ROM he wants to go to though...
i897 running Andromeda 2.0
I updated to froyo 2.2 (leaked version) on my samsung captivate, and I was wondering if there was a possible way to downgrade back to 2.1 and go to 2.3 cognition? Ive been reading and I cant seem too root my froyo 2.2 samsung captivate, i wanted to be able to install custom roms...
Could someone point me in the right way with a link or two maybe?
search... and read. It's ALL here somewhere
Mac4Wii said:
I updated to froyo 2.2 (leaked version) on my samsung captivate, and I was wondering if there was a possible way to downgrade back to 2.1 and go to 2.3 cognition? Ive been reading and I cant seem too root my froyo 2.2 samsung captivate, i wanted to be able to install custom roms...
Could someone point me in the right way with a link or two maybe?
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First of all I would post this in Q/A section. Second of all you need to use ODIN to get back to 2.1 stock before you flash cognition. Although I hope you know Cognition is NOT gingerbread it is froyo.
System version does not make any difference to flashing ROMs
Mac4Wii said:
I updated to froyo 2.2 (leaked version) on my samsung captivate, and I was wondering if there was a possible way to downgrade back to 2.1 and go to 2.3 cognition? Ive been reading and I cant seem too root my froyo 2.2 samsung captivate, i wanted to be able to install custom roms...
Could someone point me in the right way with a link or two maybe?
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You tried the one click root? It should be a simple process of downloading the correct update.zip and then flashing it through the recovery menu. Takes like 30 seconds. I don't think it matters what version of android you are on to root...
xreflection said:
You tried the one click root? It should be a simple process of downloading the correct update.zip and then flashing it through the recovery menu. Takes like 30 seconds. I don't think it matters what version of android you are on to root...
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this does NoT work on the leaked ji6 without a proper kernel....
I recently just flashed a new rom and I had realized I never tried the stock 2.2 from samsung and I was wondering what people thought of it and if they were still able to flash other roms or use odin to go back to stock 2.1 and then flash other roms again. Or does updating to 2.2 mess up some of that?
And is it even worth it to try and check it out?
I am running serendipity and my wife has stock. I would not go back to stock if att were to pay me. Her Gps was messed up, bad battery life and other strange issues.
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the only thing 2.2 may mess up for flashing roms is it installs 3e recovery which needs signed update.zip packages (can be patched ) , and sometimes you need a new root program.
besides that its... stock. with the 2.2 updates...
Has anyone tried reflashing odin or using clockwork/rooting in 2.2?
I'm thinking i'm going to stay away from it at this point but curiosity my get the best of me....
jlt220 said:
Has anyone tried reflashing odin or using clockwork/rooting in 2.2?
I'm thinking i'm going to stay away from it at this point but curiosity my get the best of me....
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i sucessfully rooted it using superone click method...but had problem flashing clockwork mode as there is sign verification problem...so i tried to flash back to 2.1 and used AIO method...which bricked my phone...so better to keep flashing good custom roms and be unbricked ....stay away from stock froyo...its exactly 2.1 with stock froyo capabilities...
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the only thing 2.2 may mess up for flashing roms is it installs 3e recovery which needs signed update.zip packages (can be patched ) , and sometimes you need a new root program.
besides that its... stock. with the 2.2 updates...
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jlt220 said:
Has anyone tried reflashing odin or using clockwork/rooting in 2.2?
I'm thinking i'm going to stay away from it at this point but curiosity my get the best of me....
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rooting 2.2 via clockwork, see the post above you...
3e sig check. fix with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213
Hey all,
I was wondering if any kind, experienced users out there would be willing to help talk me through the flashing process for my specific situation. My cappy is currently rooted, running the last version of the Firefly froyo ROM (released last April). As such, I have clockwork recovery all ready to go. But I am confused by the switch from 2.2 to 4.0, and if there is anything extra I need to do besides Tibu backup, wipe data and cache, and then flash the new ROM using clockwork recovery. Do I need to flash a 2.3 ROM first? Is Tibu going to give me problems? Should I revert to stock first? Odin to update bootloaders? Heimdall? I'm so confused and I can't risk the brick!!
I know this may be a complicated question, so if someone wants to DM me instead, that would be amazing. Essentially, I'm looking for a step-by-step explanation of how to get from Firefly, a 2.2 ROM, to teamhacksung's ICS or another ICS ROM, and retaining my apps and data and with the smallest chance of flashing complications.
Any good samaritans out there? THANK YOU!
GerStud101 said:
Hey all,
I was wondering if any kind, experienced users out there would be willing to help talk me through the flashing process for my specific situation. My cappy is currently rooted, running the last version of the Firefly froyo ROM (released last April). As such, I have clockwork recovery all ready to go. But I am confused by the switch from 2.2 to 4.0, and if there is anything extra I need to do besides Tibu backup, wipe data and cache, and then flash the new ROM using clockwork recovery. Do I need to flash a 2.3 ROM first? Is Tibu going to give me problems? Should I revert to stock first? Odin to update bootloaders? Heimdall? I'm so confused and I can't risk the brick!!
I know this may be a complicated question, so if someone wants to DM me instead, that would be amazing. Essentially, I'm looking for a step-by-step explanation of how to get from Firefly, a 2.2 ROM, to teamhacksung's ICS or another ICS ROM, and retaining my apps and data and with the smallest chance of flashing complications.
Any good samaritans out there? THANK YOU!
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Alright you always need gingerbread boot loaders, then you can install a kernel with cwm and then just flash the rom, when I get home I can explain to more detail, hard to type it all out on my phone.
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patrick8996 said:
Alright you always need gingerbread boot loaders, then you can install a kernel with cwm and then just flash the rom, when I get home I can explain to more detail, hard to type it all out on my phone.
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I can't say you NEED gingerbread bootloaders, but they are highly recommended since once you flash them, there is never a need to flash them again, and certain ICS roms and kernels may require them. The easiest way to get them is to grab an Odin/heimdall gingerbread one-click with bootloaders; find in the dev section. You currently have ClockworkMod recovery, so you should be able to flash the zips from there. Since you are on a non-CM ROM, you will probably have to flash it twice.
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