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Custom Recovery Question

Will a custom recovery prevent Kies from updating my Captivate when Gingerbread gets released? I know alot of folks will say who cares since there are all these great ROM's being created but if I wanted to try the new official released version would Kies work?
Has anyone upgraded to Froyo using Kies with a custom recovery?

JSS28 said:
Will a custom recovery prevent Kies from updating my Captivate when Gingerbread gets released? I know alot of folks will say who cares since there are all these great ROM's being created but if I wanted to try the new official released version would Kies work?
Has anyone upgraded to Froyo using Kies with a custom recovery?
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Flash to stock before u do that.
Flashing to stock saves lots of headache esp when moving between ROMS. Moving between android versions, well, goes the same without saying.

Thanks Diablo009 for the advice. I am from Canada and I am running stock Rogers Froyo on my i896 Captivate. I am reading lots and taking small steps before flashing a custom ROM. What I plan to do is add a custom recovery, run APN Backup, do a TI Backup then Master Clear my phone and do a ROM backup using Clockworkmod. After that I want to flash Firefly on my phone restore my APN and TI backups. What I need to know is if in a few months Gingerbread becomes available and I restore my original ROM using Clockworkmod will Kies recognize my Captivate even though I keep a Custom Recovery?
Have you, or anyone for that matter, updated your ROM using Kies after adding a custom recovery to your Captivate?

JSS28 said:
Thanks Diablo009 for the advice. I am from Canada and I am running stock Rogers Froyo on my i896 Captivate. I am reading lots and taking small steps before flashing a custom ROM. What I plan to do is add a custom recovery, run APN Backup, do a TI Backup then Master Clear my phone and do a ROM backup using Clockworkmod. After that I want to flash Firefly on my phone restore my APN and TI backups. What I need to know is if in a few months Gingerbread becomes available and I restore my original ROM using Clockworkmod will Kies recognize my Captivate even though I keep a Custom Recovery?
Have you, or anyone for that matter, updated your ROM using Kies after adding a custom recovery to your Captivate?
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Nope. I am out of the service provider loop for everything. I get all I want from these forums, and don't even bother to connect to kies for anything. And long before the service provider can even think of GB, we'd be have many ROMs based on it.
If u plan to use kies for any updates, I would recommend to revert to stock and update.

[Q] Odin one-click softbricks my phone

I'm having a bit of trouble with Odin one-click. Last night I decided to upgrade from Perception 10.4 (Froyo based) to Perception 2b3 (Gingerbread based). I plugged it in, put it into download mode, and activated Odin. It ran just fine, but at the end, my phone rebooted into a boot loop. I ended up putting together a jig to get it back into download mode, and tried again. Same thing happened. I eventually ended up using a Froyo Odin to qwerty least get it working again. Does anyone have any ideas as to why Gingerbread Odin soft bricks my phone, and what I should do to fix it? Let me know if you need any more details. Thanks in advance.

I know this would do better in the odin thread, but I don't have enough posts to post there, mending the fact that I've been lurking around for close to a year

Guess I'll just keep posting here until a) someone responds or b) I have enough posts to ask in the proper thread

I'd ready like to be able to get my cappy running Gingerbread tonight. Anyone have any ideas?

What one click are you taking about? Is it this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
If it is, this will take you to stock eclair. Not sure what ur talking about with one click froyo. There is a one click GB from Design Gears in the development section. It flashes the newest release of GB stock. If you can get into dl mode you can flash either of the one click odins, but read about both before you do. Bootloaders are involved, and if you don't know about them they can be trouble. Read in development section.
This is a link to one click for GB stock. CONTAINS BOOTLOADERS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249
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Sorry, for some reason can't get that second link to work properly. Doing this from my phone. Just type in the url. If you decide to flash this GB oneclick, you'll be on the kf1 "official" release. Check dev section and you can flash beta cognition if you want. People are having great results with this rom, including myself. Good luck.
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I recommend flashing the KF1 odin one-click. I just flashed that one, and it worked like a champ. Its in the Continuum v6 thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136128. If you read the instructions it will work flawlessly. The only odin problems I've ran into have been user induced.

Okay, I'll try out that KF1. All I really need it for is to get the bootloaders so I can install other 2.3 roms. Will this work for that?
The Froyo Odin I was tackling about was just an older version, I think.
Edit: Why is it so much more difficult to go from 2.2 to 2.3 than it was going from 2.1 to 2.2? Upgrading to 2.2, I just had to use CWM to flash the new rom onto the phone.

Okay, I was trying to follow the instructions in the Continuum thread, and it looks like I am supposed to go back to Eclair before flashing Continuum. I was using this one-click Odin, and it was causing my phone to softbrick. No idea why. Will I be able to use that KF1 Odin to get to Gingerbread, then flash other GB based roms?
And by the trouble caused by bootloaders, you just mean how it will hardbrick if it loses connection in the middle of flashing, right? Or is there more. I've been switching out roms on phones for a while now, but it hasn't been this complex before...

If you mix bootloaders, you will hard brick ur phone. 2.1/2.2 roms have the same bootloaders. GB boots are different. That's why there is more involved to flash GB roms. Basically all the GB roms are I9000 based roms. The kf1 is an i897 based stock rom. If you flash kf1 stock rom, you will lose cwm. You can try cog beta 2 rom if you would like. After following steps to flash GB bootloaders with link mentioned above, check dev section. There are currently 2 kf1 custom roms. I use the cog beta 2, and it works great. people have mentioned that they have flashed i9000 roms over kf1, but I personally haven't, cuz so far cog beta is working great and the call quality is outstanding compared to any of the i9000 roms. Read read read read, before taking any steps. You don't want to ruin it phone! If you want to flash i9000 based GB, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045734
Btw, what build is ur phone? (4 digit number under battery). Some builds, especially 1010 have trouble with oneclick.
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So it sounds like what I need to do is use that KF1 Odin, then I can flash other roms over that? How can I tell which custom roms are KF1? Is Perception KF1 based? What would you recommend I read to make sure I'm doing it right? Are there specific threads that are especially helpful for this? Thanks for all of the help, I'd really like to learn how to do this.

It'll say in the title. Liked I said, currently there are only two kf1 based roms. Cog beta and another one that I can't remember the name of. If it says something in the title besides kf1/or i897, it's for i9000. Ex/ jvh, jvo, jvp are all i9000 based.
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What do I need to do if I want to use a non-KF1 based GB rom? I've been very happy with Perception, and I'd like to keep using it.

If you want to flash GB stock that is based off of I9000 read and follow this, step by step:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045734
After you do this you can flash GB roms via cwm.
If you want to flash GB with kf1, you can, and people have been running I9000 based custom roms on the same bootloaders. JUST MAKE SURE YOU CHECK ANY ROM YOU'RE FLASHING TO SEE IF IT INCLUDES BOOTLOADERS. I personally haven't run any I9000 roms after flashing kf1, but I believe if you want to do this, (NOT POSITIVE ABOUT THIS, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO RESEARCH THIS FIRST) you would have to flash an appropriate I9000 kernel using odin (not oneclick, but the full version). Put the kernel in the PDA slot, uncheck repartition, and auto reboot and flash. That way you will get cwm 2 or3 back which will enable you to flash the rom you want. (Remember, with stock KF1 you lose cwm). After kernel flashes, boot ONLY into recovery, and flash rom that you put on your SD card before doing any of this, and flash via cwm. AGAIN, NOT POSITIVE THIS IS WHAT YOU DO, SO RESEARCH.

That makes a lot more sense than the instructions I was trying to follow. I'll try that in a bit.

It worked! Thanks for all of your help

What did you end up doing? GB I9000 stock, or kf1 then flash I9000 custom rom over it?
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I used the I9000 GB stock rom from that link you posted, then flashed a custom rom over it. I ended up using Perception 2 beta.

Glad it worked for you.
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Getting started (suggestions)

I would like to start with a new ROM on my captivate but i think i need to learn more about what the basics are aside from youtube tutorials does anyone have any suggestions on how to get started, what to read, ROMs,ect.. I am already rooted with titanium on and now i would like to get into some good ROMs
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Buy the pro version of titanium backup. It'll save you a lot of time. Make sure you know the difference between Samsung's Advanced Recovery Mode and Clockwork Mod Recovery. DO NOT FLASH ROMS USING ROM MANAGER.
Read, read, and read.
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Start with flashing froyo based roms. Most of them are really simple and safe to flash. Learn about clockwork mod since almost all froyo roms use that to flash.
Like in order to flash cognition just drop it into your internal sd, boot into clockwork mod recovery mode and install it from the sd card. It's that easy. Just be careful when trying a gingerbread based rom because then you need to worry about boot loaders and stuff.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Cognition 2.2 rom

capocaccia said:
Start with flashing froyo based roms. Most of them are really simple and safe to flash. Learn about clockwork mod since almost all froyo roms use that to flash.
Like in order to flash cognition just drop it into your internal sd, boot into clockwork mod recovery mode and install it from the sd card. It's that easy. Just be careful when trying a gingerbread based rom because then you need to worry about boot loaders and stuff.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Cognition 2.2 rom
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even GB roms use CWM

Ya I know they do but they aren't as simple to flash as the froyo roms.
But the op needs to read the sticky at the top of the development section on how to flash roms. But be aware the guide is for froyo (2.2) based roms only.
Here is the How to Flash Captivate 2.2 Based Roms thread. Read it carefully and you will have no issues at all flashing any 2.2 based rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Sent from my Samsung Captivate running Cognition 2.2 rom

Thanks guys i have been reading and reading and reading again i was set to try out fasty but now it went to rom manager premium so i will purchase it. Any recommendations maybe cognition something for froyo?? MJ
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cognition 4.5.3 would be good to start off with,make sure you read and follow the exact steps before flashing the rom,pm me if you need help

Also having a Jig around is always a good idea just in case you key combos decide to not work in a bootloop or fail firmware flash. You never know.

[Q] Need help to clear some questions

Hi guys, I'm new here and have been scouring the forums on how to do things but I keep getting caught with uncertainties.
I have an i896 Samsung Galaxy S Captivate with a Rogers 2.3.3 Gingerbread installed.
I have rooted it with no issues and its also unlocked.
What I want to do:
1. CyanogenMod 7
2. Overclock the CPU
But what I don't know is...
1. Since i'm running a Rogers ROM, do I have to flash to an AT&T ROM then to any custom ROM?
2. I read the instructions on how to update to the CM7 ROM but every instruction I read says I must have Froyo/Eclair to goto CM7. So do I downgrade and if so, how can I do that? I tried and what ends up happening is the phone's reception bars have an X and data doesn't work either. In the phone About properties, states that the baseband is "unknown". I suspect I need something more than a stock Rogers ROM without bootloaders. I couldn't find a 2.1 or 2.2 stock Rogers ROM with bootloders.
3. For overclocking, I installed Voltage Control and Control Freak and neither let me overclock, the max CPU is 1000Mhz. I assume I need a custom Kernal to do this but haven't been able to find how to do this during the CM7 upgrade.
I just need someone to point me in the right direction on what order to do all this and whether me having a Rogers stock 2.3.3 ROM causes an issue. I've done a lot of reading on these forums so its not like I just signed up and wanted to know the easy way out. I simply want the proper way to do things so I don't repeat the same mistakes many people may have done in the past.
I have used Odin, Heimdall, Odin One Click, Super One Click for rooting.
Hopefully someone can guide me in the right direction and help me achieve these goals!

You dont need to go back to Froyo, as GB bootloader is compatible. but you need CWM to flash CM7. you can use Rom Manager app to flash the CWM.
Just download CM7 zip file, wipe data, system and cache and install it using CWM. It comes with custom kernel so you can overclock it using those apps you mentioned. You can also flash Glitch kernel....

See that's what i've been trying to do but when it comes to installing the nightly rom in zip format, it tells me the signature failed.
Do I need to buy the premium version of rom manager or can I get away with the free version? I don't want to use my credit card, i rather wait until paypal is implemented with android market.
This is so frustrating...

BadBoiSinZ said:
See that's what i've been trying to do but when it comes to installing the nightly rom in zip format, it tells me the signature failed.
Do I need to buy the premium version of rom manager or can I get away with the free version? I don't want to use my credit card, i rather wait until paypal is implemented with android market.
This is so frustrating...
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You need to Odin flash a custom kernel that has CWM in it and then install the zip from CWM. I don't know if all kernels for the i897 are compatable with i896 just have to read. I
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Wdustin1 said:
You need to Odin flash a custom kernel that has CWM in it and then install the zip from CWM. I don't know if all kernels for the i897 are compatable with i896 just have to read. I
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Ya that's what I don't know either...I read tons of threads where people with i896 Rogers roms tried to flash with AT&T based roms or i897 roms and either bricked their phones or made a mess that took much more to get them back to stock...problem is the people that have i896 roms here I can't contact until I hit 10 posts...so I'm here stuck until then...

Just flash a custom I897 kernel with cwm, once complete, yank battery, replace and button combo boot into recovery and flash the ROM. Whichever kernel you choose doesn't really matter as zip will flash a compatible kernel, the I896 and I897 are identical other than cosmetic branding.

I was on stock rogers 2.3.3.
Installed Sumari kernel. Booted into the sumari recovery, installed CM7 zip, the phone rebooted into cwm recovery, and continued installing.
It worked pretty smoothly.

okay so i flashed my phone with a stock 2.3.5 rom with CWM, but how do I update to CM7? When i boot into recovery the only option I have is reinstall package. Do i rename the CM7 zip file to update.zip and that should work? I'm so lost...

In CWM recovery you need to choose install zip from sdcard, make sure you are in fact in cwm recovery

Before you do that....you need to flash a kernel with Odin that has cwm in it...

Woo! that worked like a charm haha yea baby yea!! Thank you soo much!! i was so scared to flash my cappy going from Rogers to AT&T that it would brick the phone. Got CM7 with Glitch Kernel and overclocked to 1.4 sawweeeeet!!
Now time to fiddle around and customize!
Thanks everyone!!

So let me get this straight...

I recently upgraded my Note to official ICS (OTA) and I'm not liking it AT ALL! Now I really want to get far away from this update as possible and I'd like to switch to a CM9 nightly Rom. I've that now that I have upgraded to the official ICS Rom, I run the risk of super bricking my device. So now I ask you to help me make sure the following is correct so that I may move on from this wretched update:
DO NOT perform wipes if you are on original Samsung ICS
DO NOT perform wipes if you are on a original Samsung kernel??
Flash back to original Gingerbread Rom using odin BEFORE flashing to CM9
Flash to different kernel??
I've flashed millions of Roms but this one is scary and I just want to make sure haven't missed anything... Have I?
Thanks for you help!!
John J

Just flash a stock directly rootable GB rom, root and put CM9 on it. Then do a factory reset and you're good to go. Went that way few times already.

Akiainavas said:
Just flash a stock directly rootable GB rom, root and put CM9 on it. Then do a factory reset and you're good to go. Went that way few times already.
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Thanks a lot man!! This is pretty much what I thought but I wanted to make ABSOLUTE sure! Cheers!
John J

So is the super-brick BUG on the official ICS OTA?? OMG
And yeah go back to gingerbrear via odin, get root then flash any CM9 tru CWM no problems...

I'd like to do something similar to what the OP wants to do however I have rooted and installed CWM on an official/stock ICS rom. So if I wanted to flash back to a stock gingerbread rom would I need to remove CWM and/or un-root?

darkmuck said:
I'd like to do something similar to what the OP wants to do however I have rooted and installed CWM on an official/stock ICS rom. So if I wanted to flash back to a stock gingerbread rom would I need to remove CWM and/or un-root?
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There is no need to unroot first. You can flash stock GB rom directly via Odin.

I've now flashed to GB but before I move on to a CM9 nightly, do you recommend I flash the CM9 kernel as well? Seems like it is not a prerequisite but I would like to make sure. Thanks.
John J

afaik, when flashing a CM9 Nightly, the eligible kernel is built in, so no need to flash anything but the ROM.
i'm on one of imilkas first CM9 port and it says [email protected] #1 under Kernel version in settings.

Yes. The correct kernel is included in the nightly.